"MSVC" Hercules Build Instructions updated

[fish-8]

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Folks, I've updated my "MSVC" Hercules Build Instructions web page at:

  http://www.softdevlabs.com/Hercules/hercules-msvc-build.html


In addition to the instructions being updated for Visual C++ 2008 they are
now much simpler are more streamlined (hopefully!) and include download
links for the necessary ZLIB, BZIP2 and PCRE headers and libraries (which I
built myself using VC++ 2008).

Let me know if you have any problems with them and I'll try to update the
instructions as needed.

Thanks.

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[kerravon86]

--- In hercules-390@..., "Fish" <fish@...> wrote:
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> Folks, I've updated my "MSVC" Hercules Build Instructions
> web page at:
>
>   http://www.softdevlabs.com/Hercules/hercules-msvc-build.html

Thanks Fish. Do you know what is required to execute
from the command line instead of GUI? ie is there a
command to invoke the .sln file.

Also, any idea when there will be a new version of
Hercules released that will be shipped with VS2008
so that all the dependencies can be expected to be
installed?

BFN.  Paul.

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kerravon86 wrote:

> --- In hercules-390@..., "Fish" <fish@...> wrote:
> >
> > Folks, I've updated my "MSVC" Hercules Build Instructions
> > web page at:
> >
> >   http://www.softdevlabs.com/Hercules/hercules-msvc-build.html
>
> Thanks Fish. Do you know what is required to execute
> from the command line instead of GUI? ie is there a
> command to invoke the .sln file.

Entering "makefile /?" provides instructions.


> Also, any idea when there will be a new version of
> Hercules released that will be shipped with VS2008
> so that all the dependencies can be expected to be
> installed?

Well I'm not sure BUT... Mike mentioned in his post that Ivan is now
building Windows snapshots again (apparently his snapshots mechanism has
been broken since August or something), so maybe we'll get lucky and his
snapshots are already now being build with the latest C++ Runtimes? <shrug>
Don't know. Haven't had time to download any of them to verify since I of
course always build Herc directly from source myself.

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[chbirr01]

--- In hercules-390@..., "Fish" <fish@...> wrote:
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> Folks, I've updated my "MSVC" Hercules Build Instructions web page at:
>
Thanks Fish, my first expedition in the world of C++, works perfectly.
One question though, what would be the equivalent for the touch utility in the Windows world ?
Christian

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Chris wrote:

> Thanks Fish, my first expedition in the world of C++,
> works perfectly. One question though, what would be the
> equivalent for the touch utility in the Windows world ?
> Christian

Windows doesn't have a touch utility that I'm aware of, but I personally use
the GNU touch that comes with one of the following packages:

  http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/
  http://unxutils.sourceforge.net/

I personally use both packages, and I can't remember which one I got touch
from.

Just download them and unzip them into a 'bin' directory someone on your
system and then add that directory to your Windows %PATH% variable. I think
everyone should have a bin directory where they can dump all their handy
dandy command-line utilities that don't come with or need an installer into.

Another separate tool I use is 'msls', a GNU 'ls' knockoff written using
native Windows APIs. It's very nice:

  http://utools.com/msls.asp


One IMPORTANT CAVEAT though regarding the above two GnuWin32 and UnxUtils
packages: the names of some of the tools collide with the names of some
existing Microsoft utilities, so be careful. Before you blindly add your
'bin' directory to your PATH, I would first verify whether there's already
an existing tool with that name for each of the tools provided in both
packages. (Their "which" utility is especially helpful for this!)

Looking at my notes it appears one of them is the "expand" tool: there's
already a Microsoft tool called that which does something completely
differently so I renamed my GNU expand to "gexpand.exe" instead.

I also DELETED the following programs for the very same reason:

  echo.exe
  find.exe
  sort.exe
  type.exe

Good luck!

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--- In hercules-390@..., "Fish" <fish@...> wrote:

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> Chris wrote:
>
> > Thanks Fish, my first expedition in the world of C++,
> > works perfectly. One question though, what would be the
> > equivalent for the touch utility in the Windows world ?
> > Christian
>
> Windows doesn't have a touch utility that I'm aware of, but I personally use
> the GNU touch that comes with one of the following packages:
>
>   http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/
>   http://unxutils.sourceforge.net/
>
> I personally use both packages, and I can't remember which one I got touch
> from.
>
> Just download them and unzip them into a 'bin' directory someone on your
> system and then add that directory to your Windows %PATH% variable. I think
> everyone should have a bin directory where they can dump all their handy
> dandy command-line utilities that don't come with or need an installer into.
>
> Another separate tool I use is 'msls', a GNU 'ls' knockoff written using
> native Windows APIs. It's very nice:
>
>   http://utools.com/msls.asp
>
>
> One IMPORTANT CAVEAT though regarding the above two GnuWin32 and UnxUtils
> packages: the names of some of the tools collide with the names of some
> existing Microsoft utilities, so be careful. Before you blindly add your
> 'bin' directory to your PATH, I would first verify whether there's already
> an existing tool with that name for each of the tools provided in both
> packages. (Their "which" utility is especially helpful for this!)
>
> Looking at my notes it appears one of them is the "expand" tool: there's
> already a Microsoft tool called that which does something completely
> differently so I renamed my GNU expand to "gexpand.exe" instead.
>
> I also DELETED the following programs for the very same reason:
>
>   echo.exe
>   find.exe
>   sort.exe
>   type.exe
>
> Good luck!
>
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Hi,

I just tried to re-compile using Fish's instructions and had to do the following to get it to compile cleanly:-

First you'll need a SVN client. I downloaded TortoiseSVN. Point it at the SVN as per the URL in Fish's instructions and the source will be downloded.

1) Download UnixUtils, extract and put C:\UnxUtils\usr\local\wbin in your path. This will then pick up "Touch" command.
2) Download "RunJobs-1.1.2" and place "Runjobs.exe" in a directory in your path. I stuck it in the same path as 1. The program "RunJobs" is required to get the rebuild to work.
3) Make sure you select the correct build environment when recompiling in V2008 C++. For example open the Hercules SLN file and then in V2008 C++ next to the "green arrow" select "Release" and "WIN32" in the two drop downs for WIN32. Then rebuild. Works a treat and rebuilds libraries to something like:
D:/hercules/svn/trunk/msvc.debug.dllmod.bin/

4)To start up new version - I use Hercules Gui....
Open configuration file in HercGui. Change prefrences to point to library in 3 and Power Up.

Problems....
a)The TUNTAP routines now seem to be unable to load some MFC run time libraries. In particular MFCN42D.DLL. Works OK with the distributed 3.06 level of Hercules.

b) Fish's new HercPrt modifiction is unable to open the socket assigned to the printer. I get the following error message:

HHCSD014E Failed to bind or listen on socket 192.168.1.20:1403: The requested address is not valid in its context.
13:40:57.640 0000260C HHCCF044E Initialization failed for device 000F

The configuration statement looks like:-
000F    1403    192.168.1.20:1403 sockdev

I have HercPrt running waiting to connect on port 1403.

Any ideas Fish?      

[fish-8]

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ed666169 wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I just tried to re-compile using Fish's instructions and had to
> do the following to get it to compile cleanly:-
>
> First you'll need a SVN client. I downloaded TortoiseSVN. Point it
> at the SVN as per the URL in Fish's instructions and the source will
> be downloded.
>
> 1) Download UnixUtils, extract and put C:\UnxUtils\usr\local\wbin
>    in your path. This will then pick up "Touch" command.

(ACK!) Gosh darn it all! (grumble) <me: kicks self>

I forgot about makefile.bat using 'touch'. When I wrote it I made a note to
go back and fix that because I knew Windows didn't have a touch utility, but
completely forgot. Sorry about that. I'll get that fixed for you. You
shouldn't need any special tools to build Herc with. If you have them then
great, but you shouldn't NEED them.


> 2) Download "RunJobs-1.1.2" and place "Runjobs.exe" in a directory
>    in your path. I stuck it in the same path as 1. The program "RunJobs"
>    is required to get the rebuild to work.

Actually it isn't. It's only required for "All" type builds (e.g.
"Debug-All", "Release-All" or "All-All"), but for normal "Debug" and/or
"Release" builds (which is all most people are interested in) it's not used.

Only "Power Developers" use RunJobs to build all the various different build
configurations for all the various different supported platforms all in
parallel so that they all get built lickity-split by that fancy-schmancy
multi-core (multi-cpu) system they're doing their Hercules development on.
;-)

But for most people who just want to build a normal "Release" version of
Hercules for a specific target platform (Win32 or x64), then runjobs isn't
needed as it will never be used.

It should also be pointed out that you can also build ALL of the various
different configuration for all the various different platforms <cough> "all
at once" <cough> WITHOUT runjobs by simply using Visual Studio's [incredibly
lame] "Batch Build" facility. Just select 'Batch build...' from Visual
Studio's 'Build' menu, select which configurations you want to build, and
then click "Rebuild" button. All selected configurations will then be built
as a "batch". They will NOT be built in parallel however. Instead, they're
built serially, one after the other. RunJobs was written to specifically
address that [in my opinion] serious shortcoming in Microsoft's product.

So yes, RunJobs is needed to build any of the "xxxx-All" configurations, but
it's NOT needed if you're only interested in building one specific
configuration.


> 3) Make sure you select the correct build environment when
>    recompiling in V2008 C++. For example open the Hercules
>    SLN file and then in V2008 C++ next to the "green arrow"
>    select "Release" and "WIN32" in the two drop downs for
>    WIN32. Then rebuild. Works a treat and rebuilds libraries
>    to something like: D:/herc/svn/trunk/msvc.debug.dllmod.bin/

Ummm, you say to select "Release|Win32" (which is correct! That's the build
configuration most everyone SHOULD be selecting when they want to build Herc
for themselves (either that or "Release|x64" of course)), but then you say
the directory where the results are placed is "msvc.DEBUG.dllmod.bin"!!
(emphasis mine)

That's not right. :)

When you do a RELEASE build, the results will be placed in
"msvc.dllmod.bin", not msvc.debug.dllmod.bin. "msvc.debug.dllmod.bin" is
where DEBUG configuration builds get placed (e.g. "Debug|Win32").


> 4)To start up new version - I use Hercules Gui....
>   Open configuration file in HercGui. Change prefrences
>   to point to library in 3 and Power Up.
>
> Problems....
>
> a) The TUNTAP routines now seem to be unable to load some
>    MFC run time libraries. In particular MFCN42D.DLL. Works
>    OK with the distributed 3.06 level of Hercules.

That's because you built a DEBUG build of Hercules (and are now trying to
run it) instead of a RELEASE build! Unless you have the full Professional
Edition of Visual Studio (instead of just the "Express" edition that you
probably have) you aren't going to have the necessary debug versions of the
MFC dlls. Notice the name of the DLL you mentioned just above:
"MFCN42D.DLL". See that 'D' following the "MFCN"? That means "Debug". Since
MFC doesn't come with the Express edition of Visual C++ (Professional or
greater only) that's why you got your error.

Stick with "Release" builds and everything should work fine.

> b) Fish's new HercPrt modifiction is unable to open the
>    socket assigned to the printer. I get the following
>    error message:
>
>    HHCSD014E Failed to bind or listen on socket 192.168.1.20:1403:
>       The requested address is not valid in its context.
>    HHCCF044E Initialization failed for device 000F
>
>    The configuration statement looks like:-
>    000F    1403    192.168.1.20:1403 sockdev
>
> I have HercPrt running waiting to connect on port 1403.
>
> Any ideas Fish?

Yeah: trying using the IP address of your actual network card. :)

Open a command-prompt window and enter the command "ipconfig ". Use the IP
address that's listed for your Local Area Connection and try again.

If you ARE using the correct IP address, then the port# you chose may not be
available. "netstat -n" will display all the ones currently in use. Choose
one that's not in use (but greater than 1024) and try again.



All in all not half bad Ed! Well done! I admire your initiative. :)

I'll try to get that 'touch' dependency fixed for as soon as I can. It's
late though and I'm getting tired so it may have to wait until tomorrow, but
rest assured it WILL get fixed.

Thanks for sharing your experience with building Herc for yourself from
source. That was good feedback. Much appreciated.

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