"Raw" archive?

[Bill Kendrick]

I've got a few photos sitting on my desktop, and haven't gotten around
to editing them (removal of backgrounds, resizing to sane resolution),
and wonder...

Would folks find it useful if I created some kind of archive (perhaps
simply a Gallery photo album?) of 'raw' content, that requires love and
attention?  I'd need to figure out how to let people contribute their
own content (i.e., someone who's willing to snap a photo and contribute it,
but who do not have the time, skills and/or interest in cutting out the
background scenery), and how to manage the incoming 'final' versions.

Obviously, content that gets prepared will be removed from the 'raw' archive
(or at least marked as "I don't need to be prepared for Tux Paint, but I
still live here and am available for use under XYZ license"... though I
really don't want to end up becoming a Junior version of Flickr or
WikiMedia Commons).

Also, in some cases, it's not really necessary for an actual image file to
be stored in the archive... people could submit links to imagery found on
sites like Flickr and WikiMedia Commons, which would be perfectly sufficient
for this purpose.


Comments?


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[Caroline Ford-2]

I also have a photo backlog!

Caroline

On 12/17/08, Bill Kendrick <nbs@...> wrote:

>
> I've got a few photos sitting on my desktop, and haven't gotten around
> to editing them (removal of backgrounds, resizing to sane resolution),
> and wonder...
>
> Would folks find it useful if I created some kind of archive (perhaps
> simply a Gallery photo album?) of 'raw' content, that requires love and
> attention?  I'd need to figure out how to let people contribute their
> own content (i.e., someone who's willing to snap a photo and contribute it,
> but who do not have the time, skills and/or interest in cutting out the
> background scenery), and how to manage the incoming 'final' versions.
>
> Obviously, content that gets prepared will be removed from the 'raw' archive
> (or at least marked as "I don't need to be prepared for Tux Paint, but I
> still live here and am available for use under XYZ license"... though I
> really don't want to end up becoming a Junior version of Flickr or
> WikiMedia Commons).
>
> Also, in some cases, it's not really necessary for an actual image file to
> be stored in the archive... people could submit links to imagery found on
> sites like Flickr and WikiMedia Commons, which would be perfectly sufficient
> for this purpose.
>
>
> Comments?
>
>
> --
> -bill!
> "Tux Paint" - free children's drawing software for Windows / Mac OS X /
> Linux!
> Download it today!  http://www.tuxpaint.org/
>
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[Steve Karg]

Hi Bill,

> Would folks find it useful if I created some kind of archive (perhaps
> simply a Gallery photo album?) of 'raw' content, that requires love and
> attention?

Yes, I would find a gallery useful as I sometimes have time to do
stuff and wonder what is important to work on next.  I usually wander
over to the tuxpaint-stamps/docs/TODO.txt file and pick something to
work on, so that is a good place to put requests (and add a hint to
look at your gallery).

Best Regards,

Steve
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[Aijalyn Kohler]

I think that that would also let many others contribute who are not so into graphics.

- Aijalyn

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[Bill Kendrick]

On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 05:28:31PM -0800, Bill Kendrick wrote:
>
> I've got a few photos sitting on my desktop, and haven't gotten around
> to editing them (removal of backgrounds, resizing to sane resolution),
> and wonder...

For those of you who are skilled at database design, and understand what
we might need for this repository, please take a look at the following...
Am I missing anything obvious? :)

asset:
+ id
  unique id
+ contributor
  username of contributor of this version of this asset
+ filename
  path to file for this asset (or null if URL was specified; orig only!)
+ url
  url to original asset, or page containing it (orig only!)
  (may be null if file was uploaded by the original creator or url is not
  applicable)
+ mimetype
  mimetype of this file (e.g., image/png)
+ suggested_target
  where this asset should be used (e.g., "stamps:/animals/mammals")
  (may be null)
+ notes
  freeform comments on this version of this asset
+ parent_asset_id
  id of asset this is based on (or null if it's a first-timer)
+ timestamp
  timestamp of this asset's creation (or last update?)
+ preparer
  id of contributor who is offering to prepare this asset (or null if noone
  has claimed it)
+ claimed_timestamp
  timestamp of when this asset was claimed, so it can expire and a new
  claim can be made...?
+ license
  id of license for this asset

contributor:
+ username
  unique user id
+ password
  hash of password
+ name
  real or nickname
+ email
  email address
+ preferred_license
  id of preferred license for new contributions
  (can be overridden at upload time)

licenses:
+ id
  unique id
+ name
  name of license
+ url
  url to text of license

license_compatibility:
+ orig
  asset of this license...
+ new
  ...may create an asset of this license


The idea here is for someone to upload a piece of work (an initial asset),
OR SIMPLY PROVIDE US WITH A LINK to something interesting.

Later on, someone (it could be them) decides to 'claim' the asset
(my hope is to prevent people from duplicating work).  They work on it
for a bit, and upload the new version.  It might not be the final version.
(e.g. they just cropped it and corrected a perspective issue or color problem,
but have not removed the background scenery.)

This _new_ asset is tied to the original (so we have a history), but people
will be encouraged to work off the new one, unless they see a reason to
avoid it.  (Obviously, this cannot be a fully automated system... at some
point, someone's going to have to flag some final asset as 'the finished
version', and a human (like me) will need to double-check, and finally
move it over to the tuxpaint-stamps CVS repository.)

One interesting bit here has to do with licenses.  Licenses that we deem
acceptable (likely working off of the Debian Free Software Guidelines)
will be listed.

When a user creates a new asset (e.g., they do all the work to prepare it
for Tux Paint), it should be possible for them to license the new one
DIFFERENTLY from the original, if that's possible.

So, for example, someone can take a Public Domain work and create a GPL work
out of it.  The license_compatibility table would map those.

Whew.  I'm up too late. :)

-bill!

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