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"bounce" instead of forward
by Bryan Bradsby-2
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I am the postmaster here.
I need a way to forward misdirected email but set the "envelope from" (and "reply-to" if present) to the original sender. I want the corrected recipient to reply to the original sender, not me. Alpine calls this "bounce". The fact that I forwarded (bounced) the email could be documented in an "X-Forwarded-by" header. Thank you, Bryan Bradsby Postmaster Texas State Government Network _______________________________________________ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list |
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Re: "bounce" instead of forward
by Pete Biggs
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On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 10:05 -0500, bryan bradsby wrote:
> I am the postmaster here. > > I need a way to forward misdirected email but set the "envelope > from" (and "reply-to" if present) to the original sender. > > I want the corrected recipient to reply to the original sender, not me. > > Alpine calls this "bounce". > Message -> Forward As .. -> Redirect _______________________________________________ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list |
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Re: "bounce" instead of forward
by Bryan Bradsby-2
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On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 15:15 +0000, Pete Biggs wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 10:05 -0500, bryan bradsby wrote: > > I am the postmaster here. > > > > I need a way to forward misdirected email but set the "envelope > > from" (and "reply-to" if present) to the original sender. > > > > I want the corrected recipient to reply to the original sender, not me. > > > > Alpine calls this "bounce". > > > > Message -> Forward As .. -> Redirect Yes, but that still makes the "envelope from" me. I want to change that to the original sender, so the recipient "sees" the email as coming from the original sender, and the recipient can simply hit the reply button so the reply goes to the original sender, not me. Thank you, bryan bradsby _______________________________________________ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list |
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Re: "bounce" instead of forward
by Pete Biggs
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On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 11:53 -0500, bryan bradsby wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 15:15 +0000, Pete Biggs wrote: > > On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 10:05 -0500, bryan bradsby wrote: > > > I am the postmaster here. > > > > > > I need a way to forward misdirected email but set the "envelope > > > from" (and "reply-to" if present) to the original sender. > > > > > > I want the corrected recipient to reply to the original sender, not me. > > > > > > Alpine calls this "bounce". > > > > > > > Message -> Forward As .. -> Redirect > > Yes, but that still makes the "envelope from" me. No it doesn't. I've just tried it and it maintains the original From: and To: headers, it doesn't add any Envelope-from: header and adds Resent-From: and Resent-To: headers > > I want to change that to the original sender, so the recipient "sees" > the email as coming from the original sender, and the recipient can > simply hit the reply button so the reply goes to the original sender, > not me. > Even if it did change any of the "envelope" headers the final MUA shouldn't take any notice of them since they are meant to be used by the MTAs to correctly aim bounces back to the correct person (i.e. if *you* redirect it to a bad address, the originator shouldn't get the error message, *you* should). Using Forward As ... > Redirect works. I use it daily for exactly the same reason as you want to use it for. At one point I even hacked the Evo XML files so that I had a "redirect" button. P. _______________________________________________ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list |
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Re: "bounce" instead of forward
by Sam Mason
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On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 05:22:37PM +0000, Pete Biggs wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 11:53 -0500, bryan bradsby wrote: > > On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 15:15 +0000, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > Message -> Forward As .. -> Redirect > > > > Yes, but that still makes the "envelope from" me. > > No it doesn't. I've just tried it and it maintains the original From: > and To: headers, it doesn't add any Envelope-from: header and adds > Resent-From: and Resent-To: headers When Bryan mentions the "envelope" I believe he is talking about things at an SMTP level (that would conventional usage anyway). > Even if it did change any of the "envelope" headers the final MUA > shouldn't take any notice of them since they are meant to be used by the > MTAs to correctly aim bounces back to the correct person (i.e. if *you* > redirect it to a bad address, the originator shouldn't get the error > message, *you* should). As you say, MTAs further up stream *will* look at the envelope and thus he needs enough control over it to say that it should be as it was before. I believe he wants the original sender to receive these error messages and not receive them himself. "Bounce" has very valid use cases, they're just not used by most people most of the time. -- Sam http://samason.me.uk/ _______________________________________________ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list |
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