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Re: (no subject)............................................................
............................................................ ............................................................ ............................................................ ................................ ............................................................ ............................................................ ............................................................ ............................................................ ................................. Yeah, but that last . is killer awesome rocking stuff. On Thursday 09 July 2009 23:20:34 Loki Davison wrote: > I guess 4'33" is the directors cut ;) > > On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 9:54 AM, munkeyfreenix > > batcat<munkeyfreenix.batcat@...> wrote: > > I thought it was 4'32". > > > > On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Dave Phillips <dlphillips@...> wrote: > >> Ken Restivo wrote: > >> > This is awesome. Someone should start a thread of just nothing, and > >> > .sigs. > >> > > >> > We could call it 4'33" > >> > >> Btw, I have a MIDI file of that piece, in case anyone wants it. > >> > >> (Totally straightfaced), > >> > >> dp > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Linux-audio-user mailing list > >> Linux-audio-user@... > >> http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Linux-audio-user mailing list > > Linux-audio-user@... > > http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user > > _______________________________________________ > Linux-audio-user mailing list > Linux-audio-user@... > http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user > > !DSPAM:4a56b3a381111804284693! _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@... http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user |
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Re: (no subject)Just for fun:
http://classicalconvert.com/2007/07/the-stupidest-music-lawsuit-ever-infringing-on-cages-433/ http://archives.cnn.com/2002/SHOWBIZ/Music/09/23/uk.silence/ drew On Friday 10 July 2009 02:13:46 Arnold Krille wrote: > On Thursday 09 July 2009 23:12:09 drew Roberts wrote: > > On Thursday 09 July 2009 13:10:08 you wrote: > > > We could call it 4'33" > > > > Yeah but there could well be copyright issues if one person quotes > > another person's nothing. > > No, until now citations are allowed if they stay within reasonable size > compared to the original. So you aren't allowed to quote the full silence > but quoting short extracts from empty mails is okay... (*) > > Arnold > > (*) Of course, german newspapers are working towards making citations > non-free of charge. :-/ _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@... http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user |
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Re: (no subject)Am 10.07.2009 um 16:28 schrieb drew Roberts <zotz@...>: > Just for fun: > > http://classicalconvert.com/2007/07/the-stupidest-music-lawsuit-ever-infringing-on-cages-433/ > http://archives.cnn.com/2002/SHOWBIZ/Music/09/23/uk.silence/ Thanks for the links. I am sure Cage would have laughed about the lawsuit. Who knows if Ed. Peters would have sued if he were still alive. What the articles are missing, and I think that is an important aspect of the work, is the various reactions of the audience when 4'33 is performed. If you have the chance to listen (sic!) to such a performance, don't miss it. Bear in mind that modern audiences are usually informed about the nature of the piece and you are not likely to witness very angry reactions. The grotesque aspect of it gets far more attention today. By the way, did you know that all four movements are available on iTunes? 0,99€ each, as you would expect. Again, I am sure he'd have laughed about it, happy about the discussion. Oh yes, and did you know also that Cage did not listen to recorded music at all? - Burkhard > > drew > > On Friday 10 July 2009 02:13:46 Arnold Krille wrote: >> On Thursday 09 July 2009 23:12:09 drew Roberts wrote: >>> On Thursday 09 July 2009 13:10:08 you wrote: >>>> We could call it 4'33" >>> >>> Yeah but there could well be copyright issues if one person quotes >>> another person's nothing. >> >> No, until now citations are allowed if they stay within reasonable >> size >> compared to the original. So you aren't allowed to quote the full >> silence >> but quoting short extracts from empty mails is okay... (*) >> >> Arnold >> >> (*) Of course, german newspapers are working towards making citations >> non-free of charge. :-/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Linux-audio-user mailing list > Linux-audio-user@... > http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@... http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user |
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Re: (no subject)2009/7/10 Burkhard Wölfel <versuchsanstalt@...>:
> > > Am 10.07.2009 um 16:28 schrieb drew Roberts <zotz@...>: > >> Just for fun: >> >> http://classicalconvert.com/2007/07/the-stupidest-music-lawsuit-ever-infringing-on-cages-433/ >> http://archives.cnn.com/2002/SHOWBIZ/Music/09/23/uk.silence/ > > Thanks for the links. I am sure Cage would have laughed about the > lawsuit. Who knows if Ed. Peters would have sued if he were still alive. > > What the articles are missing, and I think that is an important aspect > of the work, is the various reactions of the audience when 4'33 is > performed. If you have the chance to listen (sic!) to such a > performance, don't miss it. Bear in mind that modern audiences are > usually informed about the nature of the piece and you are not likely > to witness very angry reactions. The grotesque aspect of it gets far > more attention today. > > By the way, did you know that all four movements are available on > iTunes? 0,99€ each, as you would expect. > > Again, I am sure he'd have laughed about it, happy about the discussion. > > Oh yes, and did you know also that Cage did not listen to recorded > music at all? > > - Burkhard > >> >> drew >> >> On Friday 10 July 2009 02:13:46 Arnold Krille wrote: >>> On Thursday 09 July 2009 23:12:09 drew Roberts wrote: >>>> On Thursday 09 July 2009 13:10:08 you wrote: >>>>> We could call it 4'33" >>>> >>>> Yeah but there could well be copyright issues if one person quotes >>>> another person's nothing. >>> >>> No, until now citations are allowed if they stay within reasonable >>> size >>> compared to the original. So you aren't allowed to quote the full >>> silence >>> but quoting short extracts from empty mails is okay... (*) >>> >>> Arnold >>> >>> (*) Of course, german newspapers are working towards making citations >>> non-free of charge. :-/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Linux-audio-user mailing list >> Linux-audio-user@... >> http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user > _______________________________________________ > Linux-audio-user mailing list > Linux-audio-user@... > http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user > The lawsuit was not stupid. They credited Cage as a composer, and seeing as he had nothing to do with making the piece, they could have at least gotten permission to use the composition they were referencing if they were going to use his name on their work. _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@... http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user |
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Re: (no subject)Dave Phillips wrote:
> Ken Restivo wrote: >> This is awesome. Someone should start a thread of just nothing, and .sigs. >> >> We could call it 4'33" >> >> > > Btw, I have a MIDI file of that piece, in case anyone wants it. > > (Totally straightfaced), > > dp cool. send it my way. i've had no soundfonts whatsoever installed on my system for quite a while, and i was wondering what to do with them. _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@... http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user |
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Re: (no subject)On Sunday 12 July 2009 15:49:24 Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:
> Dave Phillips wrote: > > Ken Restivo wrote: > >> This is awesome. Someone should start a thread of just nothing, and > >> .sigs. > >> > >> We could call it 4'33" > > > > Btw, I have a MIDI file of that piece, in case anyone wants it. > > > > (Totally straightfaced), > > > > dp > > cool. send it my way. i've had no soundfonts whatsoever installed on my > system for quite a while, and i was wondering what to do with them. I much prefer analogue silence to digital silence and midi silence comes in last. Well unless we get into virtual silence and imaginary silence. On a related topic, I heard that the income that can be earned from a public performance of this piece on a Tuesday between 9 and 11 pm is proportional to the volume at which it is performed. Can anyone on list confirm or deny this fict? drew _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@... http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user |
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Re: (no subject)drew Roberts wrote:
> On Sunday 12 July 2009 15:49:24 Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: >> Dave Phillips wrote: >>> Ken Restivo wrote: >>>> This is awesome. Someone should start a thread of just nothing, and >>>> .sigs. >>>> >>>> We could call it 4'33" >>> Btw, I have a MIDI file of that piece, in case anyone wants it. >>> >>> (Totally straightfaced), >>> >>> dp >> cool. send it my way. i've had no soundfonts whatsoever installed on my >> system for quite a while, and i was wondering what to do with them. > > I much prefer analogue silence to digital silence and midi silence comes in > last. Well unless we get into virtual silence and imaginary silence. I never get any imaginary silence - my imaginary friends just won't shut up! "They're coming to take me away, ha ha, to the happy home with trees and flowers and chirping birds - they're coming to take me away!" > On a related topic, I heard that the income that can be earned from a public > performance of this piece on a Tuesday between 9 and 11 pm is proportional to > the volume at which it is performed. Well, as I get older, I find that I have to crank the volume up when I listen to it now ... > Can anyone on list confirm or deny this > fict? ("fict"ion?) ;-) Now I want to know ... should we have 4"33' of silence each August 12 in memory of Mr Cage? -- David gnome@... authenticity, honesty, community _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@... http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user |
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Re: (no subject)On 7/9/09, Dave Phillips <dlphillips@...> wrote:
> Ken Restivo wrote: >> >> This is awesome. Someone should start a thread of just nothing, and .sigs. >> >> We could call it 4'33" >> >> > > Btw, I have a MIDI file of that piece, in case anyone wants it. > > (Totally straightfaced), > > dp What software did you use to capture it? Or is it a copy? :) _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@... http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user |
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Re: (no subject)On 7/12/09, drew Roberts <zotz@...> wrote:
> On Sunday 12 July 2009 15:49:24 Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: >> Dave Phillips wrote: >> > Ken Restivo wrote: >> >> This is awesome. Someone should start a thread of just nothing, and >> >> .sigs. >> >> >> >> We could call it 4'33" >> > >> > Btw, I have a MIDI file of that piece, in case anyone wants it. >> > >> > (Totally straightfaced), >> > >> > dp >> >> cool. send it my way. i've had no soundfonts whatsoever installed on my >> system for quite a while, and i was wondering what to do with them. > > I much prefer analogue silence to digital silence and midi silence comes in > last. Well unless we get into virtual silence and imaginary silence. > > On a related topic, I heard that the income that can be earned from a public > performance of this piece on a Tuesday between 9 and 11 pm is proportional > to > the volume at which it is performed. Can anyone on list confirm or deny this > fict? > > drew Wasn't Cages original idea that there really couldn't be a silent piece? New sound appeared with each new audience. The audience, in a way, become the performance. Likewise, they're the performers. So, it seems the volume would be proportional to the amount of peeps that paid to experience a live show. Like us, at this virtual outing on a thread that began so softly, it's tough to remain completely silent for too long. -sevol _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@... http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user |
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Re: (no subject)On 7/9/09, Burkhard Wölfel <versuchsanstalt@...> wrote:
> > > Am 07.07.2009 um 10:08 schrieb sevol <sevols.ear@...>: > >> On 7/6/09, Burkhard Wölfel <versuchsanstalt@...> wrote: >>> >> minimal!!! > > :-) glad you like it - but what the fsck did i do there? Let's blame > it on my mobile device, 8:45 is the time I usually hop off the bus... > how strange. > > Sorry, all. > > - Burkhard > your permission :) _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@... http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user |
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Re: (no subject)sevol wrote:
> On 7/9/09, Dave Phillips <dlphillips@...> wrote: > >> Ken Restivo wrote: >> >>> This is awesome. Someone should start a thread of just nothing, and .sigs. >>> >>> We could call it 4'33" >>> >>> >>> >> Btw, I have a MIDI file of that piece, in case anyone wants it. >> >> (Totally straightfaced), >> >> dp >> > > What software did you use to capture it? Or is it a copy? :) > I copied it from the score. Really. Btw, Wikipedia has a pretty nice page on 4'33" : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4%E2%80%B233%E2%80%B3 Best, dp _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@... http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user |
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Re: (no subject)On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 5:59 AM, Dave Phillips<dlphillips@...> wrote:
> sevol wrote: >> On 7/9/09, Dave Phillips <dlphillips@...> wrote: >> >>> Ken Restivo wrote: >>> >>>> This is awesome. Someone should start a thread of just nothing, and .sigs. >>>> >>>> We could call it 4'33" >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Btw, I have a MIDI file of that piece, in case anyone wants it. >>> >>> (Totally straightfaced), >>> >>> dp >>> >> >> What software did you use to capture it? Or is it a copy? :) >> > > I copied it from the score. Really. > > Btw, Wikipedia has a pretty nice page on 4'33" : > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4%E2%80%B233%E2%80%B3 > > Best, > > dp > > _______________________________________________ > Linux-audio-user mailing list > Linux-audio-user@... > http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user > A friend of mine made this interactive online electronic version of the peice: http://deathbyhonor.com/index.php?/project/433/ _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@... http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user |
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Re: (no subject)On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 7:46 AM, Justin Smith<noisesmith@...> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 5:59 AM, Dave Phillips<dlphillips@...> wrote: >> sevol wrote: >>> On 7/9/09, Dave Phillips <dlphillips@...> wrote: >>> >>>> Ken Restivo wrote: >>>> >>>>> This is awesome. Someone should start a thread of just nothing, and .sigs. >>>>> >>>>> We could call it 4'33" >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Btw, I have a MIDI file of that piece, in case anyone wants it. >>>> >>>> (Totally straightfaced), >>>> >>>> dp >>>> >>> >>> What software did you use to capture it? Or is it a copy? :) >>> >> >> I copied it from the score. Really. >> >> Btw, Wikipedia has a pretty nice page on 4'33" : >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4%E2%80%B233%E2%80%B3 >> >> Best, >> >> dp >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Linux-audio-user mailing list >> Linux-audio-user@... >> http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user >> > > A friend of mine made this interactive online electronic version of the peice: > http://deathbyhonor.com/index.php?/project/433/ > never mind, it appears to be down right now, it was a java applet made in processing which displayed a series of loadbars with the timings of Cage's three movements. _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@... http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user |
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