Dave was really addressing a different issue from plagiarism, but since that issue has come up, people might be interested in a column from TESL-EJ which compiled numerous very informed contributions from people in a variety of ESL and EFL environments:
Perspectives on Plagiarism in the ESL/EFL Classroom:
http://tesl-ej.org/ej23/f1.htmlBy the way, in my community college in the US, many "regular" English instructors have native English speakers in their classrooms who appear to be unaware that plagiarism is wrong. In contrast, most of the Chinese students I get in my classes in the U.S., who have come here after finishing high school and perhaps college in China, understand that plagiarism is not acceptable. So, perhaps it is never too late.
Side comment: I have had more plagiarism problems with students (for some reason, at least for the moment, a larger number of these problems are with Vietnamese) who have spent some time in US high schools.
I guess I should add that, in *general*, the older the student (and I have many adult students in my classes), the less likely I am to have problems with plagiarism.
Karen
http://karen.stanley.people.cpcc.eduCharlotte, North Carolina, USA