[1.41] cmake references in getting started

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[1.41] cmake references in getting started

by Vladimir Prus-3 :: Rate this Message:

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Hi,

I went to fix a broken URL in getting started, and noticed that it now
has references to CMake.

I have a couple of questions:

1. Why is that reference made inside "Easy Build and Install" section,
which was specifically writen by myself to describe the brand new
"bootstrap + bjam" procedure?

2. Why is getting started including reference for experimental build
system at all?

The commit that added this is:

        r56947 | troy | 2009-10-17 07:33:43 +0400 (Sat, 17 Oct 2009) | 5 lines

        Replacement for boost.cmake on trunk and release: notices that it
        exists in the getting started guide.

and I don't think the change was discussed.

Thanks,
Volodya
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Re: [1.41] cmake references in getting started

by Vladimir Prus-3 :: Rate this Message:

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Vladimir Prus wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> I went to fix a broken URL in getting started, and noticed that it now
> has references to CMake.
>
> I have a couple of questions:
>
> 1. Why is that reference made inside "Easy Build and Install" section,
> which was specifically writen by myself to describe the brand new
> "bootstrap + bjam" procedure?
>
> 2. Why is getting started including reference for experimental build
> system at all?
>
> The commit that added this is:
>
> r56947 | troy | 2009-10-17 07:33:43 +0400 (Sat, 17 Oct 2009) | 5 lines
>
> Replacement for boost.cmake on trunk and release: notices that it
> exists in the getting started guide.
>
> and I don't think the change was discussed.

Oh wait, it's more interesting than that. There's also CMake reference
right in index.rst. It surely seems to me that talking about "Alternative method"
before the "Official method" is even mentioned, much less explained, is
outright wrong.

- Volodya



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Re: [1.41] cmake references in getting started

by troy d. straszheim :: Rate this Message:

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Vladimir Prus wrote:

> Vladimir Prus wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I went to fix a broken URL in getting started, and noticed that it now
>> has references to CMake.
>>
>> I have a couple of questions:
>>
>> 1. Why is that reference made inside "Easy Build and Install" section,
>> which was specifically writen by myself to describe the brand new
>> "bootstrap + bjam" procedure?
>>
>> 2. Why is getting started including reference for experimental build
>> system at all?
>>
>> The commit that added this is:
>>
>> r56947 | troy | 2009-10-17 07:33:43 +0400 (Sat, 17 Oct 2009) | 5 lines
>>
>> Replacement for boost.cmake on trunk and release: notices that it
>> exists in the getting started guide.
>>
>> and I don't think the change was discussed.
>
> Oh wait, it's more interesting than that. There's also CMake reference
> right in index.rst. It surely seems to me that talking about "Alternative method"
> before the "Official method" is even mentioned, much less explained, is
> outright wrong.
>

This was okayed in general (remove cmake from trunk/release, add notes
about boost.cmake's existence in various places) by the boost mods.
Take it up with them.

-t


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Re: [1.41] cmake references in getting started

by Vladimir Prus-3 :: Rate this Message:

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troy d. straszheim wrote:

> Vladimir Prus wrote:
>> Vladimir Prus wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I went to fix a broken URL in getting started, and noticed that it now
>>> has references to CMake.
>>>
>>> I have a couple of questions:
>>>
>>> 1. Why is that reference made inside "Easy Build and Install" section,
>>> which was specifically writen by myself to describe the brand new
>>> "bootstrap + bjam" procedure?
>>>
>>> 2. Why is getting started including reference for experimental build
>>> system at all?
>>>
>>> The commit that added this is:
>>>
>>> r56947 | troy | 2009-10-17 07:33:43 +0400 (Sat, 17 Oct 2009) | 5 lines
>>>
>>> Replacement for boost.cmake on trunk and release: notices that it
>>> exists in the getting started guide.
>>>
>>> and I don't think the change was discussed.
>>
>> Oh wait, it's more interesting than that. There's also CMake reference
>> right in index.rst. It surely seems to me that talking about "Alternative method"
>> before the "Official method" is even mentioned, much less explained, is
>> outright wrong.
>>
>
> This was okayed in general (remove cmake from trunk/release, add notes
> about boost.cmake's existence in various places) by the boost mods.
> Take it up with them.

That's what I'm doing here.

- Volodya



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Re: [1.41] cmake references in getting started

by Beman Dawes :: Rate this Message:

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On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Vladimir Prus
<vladimir@...> wrote:

> troy d. straszheim wrote:
>
>> Vladimir Prus wrote:
>>> Vladimir Prus wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I went to fix a broken URL in getting started, and noticed that it now
>>>> has references to CMake.
>>>>
>>>> I have a couple of questions:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Why is that reference made inside "Easy Build and Install" section,
>>>> which was specifically writen by myself to describe the brand new
>>>> "bootstrap + bjam" procedure?
>>>>
>>>> 2. Why is getting started including reference for experimental build
>>>> system at all?
>>>>
>>>> The commit that added this is:
>>>>
>>>> r56947 | troy | 2009-10-17 07:33:43 +0400 (Sat, 17 Oct 2009) | 5 lines
>>>>
>>>> Replacement for boost.cmake on trunk and release: notices that it
>>>> exists in the getting started guide.
>>>>
>>>> and I don't think the change was discussed.
>>>
>>> Oh wait, it's more interesting than that. There's also CMake reference
>>> right in index.rst. It surely seems to me that talking about "Alternative method"
>>> before the "Official method" is even mentioned, much less explained, is
>>> outright wrong.
>>>
>>
>> This was okayed in general (remove cmake from trunk/release, add notes
>> about boost.cmake's existence in various places) by the boost mods.
>> Take it up with them.
>
> That's what I'm doing here.

I've removed the index reference to CMake entirely, and repositioned
the unix-variants and windows references. Also tweaked wording to that
the experimental nature was clearer.

See http://svn.boost.org/svn/boost/trunk/more/getting_started/index.html

--Beman
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