#4508: Custom Icons (XStatuses) support in ICQ

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#4508: Custom Icons (XStatuses) support in ICQ
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 Reporter:  minstrel                   |        Owner:  MarkDoliner
     Type:  patch                      |       Status:  new        
Milestone:                             |    Component:  ICQ        
  Version:  2.3.1                      |   Resolution:            
 Keywords:  Custom Icon XStatuses ICQ  |  
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Comment(by NightFox):

 Sure it shouldn't

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 Reporter:  minstrel                   |        Owner:  MarkDoliner
     Type:  patch                      |       Status:  new        
Milestone:                             |    Component:  ICQ        
  Version:  2.3.1                      |   Resolution:            
 Keywords:  Custom Icon XStatuses ICQ  |  
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Comment(by Gromescu):

 Pidgin  hungs up when I press get aim info

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#4508: Custom Icons (XStatuses) support in ICQ
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 Reporter:  minstrel                   |        Owner:  MarkDoliner
     Type:  patch                      |       Status:  new        
Milestone:                             |    Component:  ICQ        
  Version:  2.3.1                      |   Resolution:            
 Keywords:  Custom Icon XStatuses ICQ  |  
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Comment(by rekkanoryo):

 hbons:  I am committing this patch to a side branch in mtn for some
 improvement work before it hits `im.pidgin.pidgin`.  As mentioned above,
 we do need some artwork, specifically for the following emblems in the
 patch:

  * emblems/16/xstatus_angry.png
  * emblems/16/xstatus_bathing.png
  * emblems/16/xstatus_beer.png
  * emblems/16/xstatus_busy.png
  * emblems/16/xstatus_cinema.png
  * emblems/16/xstatus_coffee.png
  * emblems/16/xstatus_crap.png
  * emblems/16/xstatus_crapping.png
  * emblems/16/xstatus_eating.png
  * emblems/16/xstatus_engineering.png
  * emblems/16/xstatus_friends.png
  * emblems/16/xstatus_fun.png
  * emblems/16/xstatus_gaming.png
  * emblems/16/xstatus_google.png
  * emblems/16/xstatus_heart.png
  * emblems/16/xstatus_internet.png
  * emblems/16/xstatus_iron.png
  * emblems/16/xstatus_mobile.png
  * emblems/16/xstatus_music.png
  * emblems/16/xstatus_party.png
  * emblems/16/xstatus_pda.png
  * emblems/16/xstatus_phone.png
  * emblems/16/xstatus_question.png
  * emblems/16/xstatus_shopping.png
  * emblems/16/xstatus_sick.png
  * emblems/16/xstatus_sleeping.png
  * emblems/16/xstatus_studying.png
  * emblems/16/xstatus_surfing.png
  * emblems/16/xstatus_thinking.png
  * emblems/16/xstatus_tired.png
  * emblems/16/xstatus_tv.png
  * emblems/16/xstatus_typing.png
  * emblems/16/xstatus_writing.png
  * emblems/16/xstatus_zzz.png

 If you can do any of these, feel free to send them directly to me
 (rekkanoryo@...) and I'll add them to my tree.

 Of course, there is a zip file attached to this ticket with "freeware"
 icons per the description; if these are suitable for our inclusion that
 will work too, but their license should be GPL if we're to include them.

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#4508: Custom Icons (XStatuses) support in ICQ
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 Reporter:  minstrel                   |        Owner:  MarkDoliner
     Type:  patch                      |       Status:  new        
Milestone:                             |    Component:  ICQ        
  Version:  2.3.1                      |   Resolution:            
 Keywords:  Custom Icon XStatuses ICQ  |  
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Comment(by rekkanoryo):

 A comment will hit this ticket shortly because I committed this to a
 branch in the monotone repository.  I need names to credit the
 contributors listed in that comment, preferably real names.  Currently
 what I have committed compiles, but I haven't tested it.

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#4508: Custom Icons (XStatuses) support in ICQ
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 Reporter:  minstrel                   |        Owner:  MarkDoliner
     Type:  patch                      |       Status:  new        
Milestone:                             |    Component:  ICQ        
  Version:  2.3.1                      |   Resolution:            
 Keywords:  Custom Icon XStatuses ICQ  |  
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Comment(by rekkanoryo@...):

 (In [1431506710bed6b8f0c837b670ee314b1692990e]):[[BR]]
 This patch comes from the combined work of contributors minstrel,
 NightFox,
 bob007, salieff, and nops (these are their trac usernames).  I have made
 some minor tweaks to the patch, but these shouldn't be a problem.  This
 patch
 needs some TLC before we can merge it anywhere else; it adds API so it
 must
 hit im.pidgin.pidgin.next.minor before hitting im.pidgin.pidgin.  Refs
 #4508.

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 Reporter:  minstrel                   |        Owner:  MarkDoliner
     Type:  patch                      |       Status:  new        
Milestone:                             |    Component:  ICQ        
  Version:  2.3.1                      |   Resolution:            
 Keywords:  Custom Icon XStatuses ICQ  |  
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Comment(by NightFox):

 I can say my real name if needed :)

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#4508: Custom Icons (XStatuses) support in ICQ
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 Reporter:  minstrel                   |        Owner:  MarkDoliner
     Type:  patch                      |       Status:  new        
Milestone:                             |    Component:  ICQ        
  Version:  2.3.1                      |   Resolution:            
 Keywords:  Custom Icon XStatuses ICQ  |  
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Comment(by N3fr0n):

 Someone on µTorrent forum contacted me about using my xstatus icons in
 Pidgin. I’d be happy to participate, but: 1. I need to be sure what to do
 with licence. (They’re my work inspired by Tango guidelines, so is this
 suitable: [http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/]?) 2. I don’t
 have all the icons and the last few (starting from ''typing'') have
 slightly different metaphors from Miranda descriptions. What will we do
 about this?

 By the way, here ([http://addons.miranda-
 im.org/files/screenshot/81-1-1209928248-preview.png]) is a screenshot.
 Just for quick image, some of the icons are outdated (the actual version
 is improved).

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 Reporter:  minstrel                   |        Owner:  MarkDoliner
     Type:  patch                      |       Status:  new        
Milestone:                             |    Component:  ICQ        
  Version:  2.3.1                      |   Resolution:            
 Keywords:  Custom Icon XStatuses ICQ  |  
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Comment(by rekkanoryo):

 Replying to [comment:66 N3fr0n]:
 > Someone on µTorrent forum contacted me about using my xstatus icons in
 Pidgin. I’d be happy to participate, but: 1. I need to be sure what to do
 with licence. (They’re my work inspired by Tango guidelines, so is this
 suitable: [http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/]?) 2. I don’t
 have all the icons and the last few (starting from ''typing'') have
 slightly different metaphors from Miranda descriptions. What will we do
 about this?

 Pidgin is a GPL version 2 application, which makes us license-incompatible
 with the CC Attribution-Share Alike license.  If you're fine with GPLv2,
 that would simplify matters significantly.  If you prefer, you could also
 have it be the redistributor's choice of the CC license or the GPL
 (obviously Pidgin would choose the GPL option).

 As for the metaphor differences, I'm not sure I understand what you mean.
 If you could clarify that, it would be helpful.

 > By the way, here ([http://addons.miranda-
 im.org/files/screenshot/81-1-1209928248-preview.png]) is a screenshot.
 Just for quick image, some of the icons are outdated (the actual version
 is improved).

 Those look fine to me, but I'd like hbons' opinion on them.

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#4508: Custom Icons (XStatuses) support in ICQ
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 Reporter:  minstrel                   |        Owner:  MarkDoliner
     Type:  patch                      |       Status:  new        
Milestone:                             |    Component:  ICQ        
  Version:  2.3.1                      |   Resolution:            
 Keywords:  Custom Icon XStatuses ICQ  |  
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Comment(by rekkanoryo):

 Replying to [comment:65 NightFox]:
 > I can say my real name if needed :)

 Yes, I need you, minstrel, bob007, salieff, and nops all to give me your
 real names.  If you prefer to do so privately, email me.  My address is
 rekkanoryo@....  Make sure to indicate your trac username so I know
 who is who :)

 If N3fr0n agrees to a licensing option that works for us both with the
 icons, I'll need his/her real name as well.

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#4508: Custom Icons (XStatuses) support in ICQ
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 Reporter:  minstrel                   |        Owner:  MarkDoliner
     Type:  patch                      |       Status:  new        
Milestone:                             |    Component:  ICQ        
  Version:  2.3.1                      |   Resolution:            
 Keywords:  Custom Icon XStatuses ICQ  |  
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Comment(by rekkanoryo):

 It appears that there is a flaw in the patch--ICQ6 users can't see the
 icon specified by Pidgin.  It works fine when testing Pidgin to Pidgin
 though.  As I'm not an expert in ICQ, I'd appreciate any help fixing this.

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 Reporter:  minstrel                   |        Owner:  MarkDoliner
     Type:  patch                      |       Status:  new        
Milestone:                             |    Component:  ICQ        
  Version:  2.3.1                      |   Resolution:            
 Keywords:  Custom Icon XStatuses ICQ  |  
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Comment(by N3fr0n):

 Yes, I agree with the GPLv2 licence. One problem seems to be solved.

 And the metaphors – it is quite difficult matter. Every client has the
 different icons, because they have no defined meanings on ICQ. From the
 standart icons (which can be found in ICQ6) there could be just one doubt
 – video camera (official) replaced by photo camera (like in Miranda). In
 unnoficial additional icons it is not so clear. For example the ''zzz''
 status is (in some clients) pictured as cannabis leaf, the ''iron'' status
 is even more uncertain. No-one knows if it’s an iron or some TV logo.

 Beside this, ICQ6 will not show any status when you have one of the
 additional icons set, some clients support only some icons.

 In my opinion it would be good to keep just some of the icons, which we
 can be at least particulary sure of.

 [[Image(http://i36.tinypic.com/mkhs1c.jpg)]]

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 Reporter:  minstrel                   |        Owner:  MarkDoliner
     Type:  patch                      |       Status:  new        
Milestone:                             |    Component:  ICQ        
  Version:  2.3.1                      |   Resolution:            
 Keywords:  Custom Icon XStatuses ICQ  |  
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Comment(by hbons):

 N3fr0n, I like these!

 I would like the smilies to be the same style as found in Pidgin, so will
 need to adjust them (was planning on doing a full 16x16px set anyway). But
 we can definitely use the other activities.

 Do you have source files available?

 btw, the surfing one is rocking at that size! :)

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 Reporter:  minstrel                   |        Owner:  MarkDoliner
     Type:  patch                      |       Status:  new        
Milestone:                             |    Component:  ICQ        
  Version:  2.3.1                      |   Resolution:            
 Keywords:  Custom Icon XStatuses ICQ  |  
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Comment(by rlaager):

 N3fr0n, we're actually a "GPL version 2 or any later version" app. Are you
 okay with that licensing?

 Regarding the identification of icons, what specifically is put on the
 wire? Is it the "xstatus_filename" or the binary data? If it's the data
 rather than the filename, "engeneering" is spelled wrong. If it's the
 filename, well, there's not much we can do about that.

 This also gets into the ambiguities... If the protocol-level string is
 "xstatus_iron", I'd say we should ship an icon of an iron. The flip side
 of this, I suppose, is (and this is not rhetorical, if you know the
 answer, that'll help a lot), "Who came up with these names?" For example,
 if some third party client introduced "zzz" as smoking pot, then we should
 honor that (or not use it at all). (If they didn't, then "zzz" really
 should be sleeping, but we already have that.) I don't see how "cooking"
 is a trash can or "mobile" is smoking either.

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 Reporter:  minstrel                   |        Owner:  MarkDoliner
     Type:  patch                      |       Status:  new        
Milestone:                             |    Component:  ICQ        
  Version:  2.3.1                      |   Resolution:            
 Keywords:  Custom Icon XStatuses ICQ  |  
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Comment(by N3fr0n):

 Yes, I’m okay with that licensing.
 I’m sorry for the mispellings, I also made a mistake in ''question'' (I
 wrote ''questiong''). Will someone who commits these icons fix that? I
 just tried to put the icon names in form like the previous were.
 The ''iron'' icon… in Miranda this was imaged as the Pro Sieben logo, the
 original ICQ (?) icon didn’t resemble iron either. I think that just
 someone thought it looks like an iron. Regarding the others, I’m not sure.
 "Zzz" was a dark-haired man with a blue bubble next to his eye and a text
 "zzz" (see in screenshot above) so I supposed a crying smiley would be
 good. Frankly, I’m not sure about this.

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 Reporter:  minstrel                   |        Owner:  MarkDoliner
     Type:  patch                      |       Status:  closed    
Milestone:                             |    Component:  ICQ        
  Version:  2.3.1                      |   Resolution:  fixed      
 Keywords:  Custom Icon XStatuses ICQ  |  
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Changes (by rekkanoryo):

  * status:  new => closed
  * resolution:  => fixed


Comment:

 This functionality, with some significant revision and expansion to
 include XMPP PEP Mood status attributes, should appear in Pidgin 2.6.0.

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     Type:  patch                      |       Status:  closed    
Milestone:                             |    Component:  ICQ        
  Version:  2.3.1                      |   Resolution:  fixed      
 Keywords:  Custom Icon XStatuses ICQ  |  
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Comment(by rlaager):

 For the record, this branch hasn't been merged yet (unless someone else
 did it, which I hope they didn't). It needs probably another night's worth
 of work from me, which may or may not happen this week. Basically, I just
 need to finish up porting the GUI into Pidgin w/o the request API changes
 and make it work for XMPP as well.

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 Reporter:  minstrel                   |        Owner:  MarkDoliner
     Type:  patch                      |       Status:  closed    
Milestone:                             |    Component:  ICQ        
  Version:  2.3.1                      |   Resolution:  fixed      
 Keywords:  Custom Icon XStatuses ICQ  |  
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Comment(by jochenito83):

 I successfully applied this patch to my pidgin 2.5.2. I was wondering if
 someone could adjust it to fit 2.5.3 or if I could do this myself.

 The only thing that was not working right for me was the icons that were
 not displayed at all: neither in the buddy list nor in the XStatus menu.

 Is there already a release date for 2.6.0 if this feature is supposed to
 be included?

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 Reporter:  minstrel                   |        Owner:  MarkDoliner
     Type:  patch                      |       Status:  closed    
Milestone:                             |    Component:  ICQ        
  Version:  2.3.1                      |   Resolution:  fixed      
 Keywords:  Custom Icon XStatuses ICQ  |  
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Comment(by rekkanoryo):

 This patch is already applied to a branch that will be merged into what
 will become Pidgin 2.6.0 when Richard has time to get back to working on
 the changes he wants to see.  There's really no point in "updating" the
 patch since it's already been accepted.

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     Type:  patch                      |       Status:  closed    
Milestone:                             |    Component:  ICQ        
  Version:  2.3.1                      |   Resolution:  fixed      
 Keywords:  Custom Icon XStatuses ICQ  |  
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Comment(by jochenito83):

 OK, cool. Then I'll be waiting for 2.6.0 to be released. Thanks for the
 info! :)

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#4508: Custom Icons (XStatuses) support in ICQ
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 Reporter:  minstrel                   |        Owner:  MarkDoliner
     Type:  patch                      |       Status:  closed    
Milestone:  2.6.0                      |    Component:  ICQ        
  Version:  2.3.1                      |   Resolution:  fixed      
 Keywords:  Custom Icon XStatuses ICQ  |  
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Changes (by darkrain42):

  * milestone:  => 2.6.0


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