#9629: Hiding offline buddies by default confuses some people
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#9629: Hiding offline buddies by default confuses some people
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#9629: Hiding offline buddies by default confuses some people
--------------------------+------------------------------------------------- Reporter: mpt | Owner: rekkanoryo Type: enhancement | Status: new Component: unclassified | Version: 2.5.5 Keywords: | --------------------------+------------------------------------------------- During Canonical user testing of Ubuntu, one task we gave participants was to set up an IM account in Pidgin. Two of the four participants who successfully completed this were confused that, by default, the Buddy List did not show all their buddies. From one: "only that [one online buddy] Kevin came up there ... I thought I would see the offline buddies as well ... I thought that buddies might be friends." And from the other: "I'm not sure where the other contacts are." Eventually she found "Buddies" > "Show" "Offline Buddies", but thought she shouldn't have had to do that: "Usually on MSN, they would appear, whoever is online on the top, and the offline underneath. I would prefer that way so I don't need to scroll." The initial experience for these people could be improved by changing the default setting to show offline buddies, with online buddies sorted above offline ones. By the time someone has accumulated enough buddies to need to hide the offline ones, they are more likely to have discovered how to do that. -- Ticket URL: <http://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/9629> Pidgin <http://pidgin.im> Pidgin _______________________________________________ Tracker mailing list Tracker@... http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tracker |
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Re: #9629: Hiding offline buddies by default confuses some people
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#9629: Hiding offline buddies by default confuses some people
-------------------------+-------------------------------------------------- Reporter: mpt | Owner: rekkanoryo Type: enhancement | Status: pending Milestone: | Component: unclassified Version: 2.5.5 | Resolution: Keywords: | -------------------------+-------------------------------------------------- Changes (by rekkanoryo): * status: new => pending Comment: We support `/etc/purple/prefs.xml` precisely so distributions can change the default configuration for new users. Why is this not sufficient? -- Ticket URL: <http://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/9629#comment:1> Pidgin <http://pidgin.im> Pidgin _______________________________________________ Tracker mailing list Tracker@... http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tracker |
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Re: #9629: Hiding offline buddies by default confuses some people
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#9629: Hiding offline buddies by default confuses some people
-------------------------+-------------------------------------------------- Reporter: mpt | Owner: rekkanoryo Type: enhancement | Status: pending Milestone: | Component: unclassified Version: 2.5.5 | Resolution: Keywords: | -------------------------+-------------------------------------------------- Comment(by deryni): I think the idea here is that we may want to change our default since the people who want it off are more likely to be able to find it to turn off than people who want it on are likely to be able to turn it on. I am however a bit concerned that the two quoted test subjects may both have had strong MSN backgrounds and that it may have biased there expectations. It would be nice to know if this issue bore out across people coming from other client backgrounds as well (as I think MSN may be unique in this handling of online/offline buddies by default). -- Ticket URL: <http://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/9629#comment:2> Pidgin <http://pidgin.im> Pidgin _______________________________________________ Tracker mailing list Tracker@... http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tracker |
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Re: #9629: Hiding offline buddies by default confuses some people
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#9629: Hiding offline buddies by default confuses some people
-------------------------+-------------------------------------------------- Reporter: mpt | Owner: rekkanoryo Type: enhancement | Status: pending Milestone: | Component: unclassified Version: 2.5.5 | Resolution: Keywords: | -------------------------+-------------------------------------------------- Comment(by rekkanoryo): The official Yahoo client has the same behavior as MSN, except that the contact list entries are like our default buddy list entries and show detailed information, including buddy icons if available. I am currently unsure about AIM or Google Talk and don't recall the behavior of ICQ. -- Ticket URL: <http://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/9629#comment:3> Pidgin <http://pidgin.im> Pidgin _______________________________________________ Tracker mailing list Tracker@... http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tracker |
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Re: #9629: Hiding offline buddies by default confuses some people
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#9629: Hiding offline buddies by default confuses some people
-------------------------+-------------------------------------------------- Reporter: mpt | Owner: rekkanoryo Type: enhancement | Status: pending Milestone: | Component: unclassified Version: 2.5.5 | Resolution: Keywords: | -------------------------+-------------------------------------------------- Comment(by Bucharin): I was also suprised by the missing offline contacts. Of ourse I found them. Some maybe just deinstall at that point... Btw not only MSN is sorting by online/offline. I would prefere the way to sort like miranda, msn, icq (at last older versions) and many other clients do it: First online contacts in categorys, then at the bottom in categories the offline contacts. In my point of view, that is the most efficient way to allow ppl to send offline messages without forcing them to activate/deactivate the display of offline contacts every time or to permanently scroll through the buddy- list... It should at last be possible to configure pidgin to sort like this. Or am I just too blind to see how? I found a plugin to put online contacts at the top of each category, but not at the top in general nor any way to display the offline-contacts of a category with one click... -- Ticket URL: <http://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/9629#comment:4> Pidgin <http://pidgin.im> Pidgin _______________________________________________ Tracker mailing list Tracker@... http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tracker |
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Re: #9629: Hiding offline buddies by default confuses some people
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#9629: Hiding offline buddies by default confuses some people
-------------------------+-------------------------------------------------- Reporter: mpt | Owner: rekkanoryo Type: enhancement | Status: closed Milestone: | Component: unclassified Version: 2.5.5 | Resolution: Keywords: | -------------------------+-------------------------------------------------- Changes (by trac-robot): * status: pending => closed Comment: This ticket was closed automatically by the system. It was previously set to a Pending status and hasn't been updated within 14 days. -- Ticket URL: <http://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/9629#comment:5> Pidgin <http://pidgin.im> Pidgin _______________________________________________ Tracker mailing list Tracker@... http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tracker |
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