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[Bug 211725] New: Konversation has a bad default configuration

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	[Bug 211725] New: Konversation has a bad default configuration by Bugzilla from rapsys@free.fr :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=211725 Summary: Konversation has a bad default configuration Product: konversation Version: 1.2 Platform: Mandriva RPMs OS/Version: Linux Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: wishlist Priority: NOR Component: general AssignedTo: konversation-devel@... ReportedBy: rapsys@... Version: 1.2 (using KDE 4.3.2) Compiler: gcc version 4.4.1 (GCC) Target: i586-manbo-linux-gnu Configuré avec: ../configure --prefix=/usr --libexecdir=/usr/lib --with-slibdir=/lib --with-bugurl=https://qa.mandriva.com/ --mandir=/usr/share/man --infodir=/usr/share/info --enable-checking=release --enable-languages=c,c++,ada,fortran,objc,obj-c++,java --build=i586-manbo-linux-gnu --host=i586-manbo-linux-gnu --with-cpu=generic --with-system-zlib --enable-threads=posix --enable-shared --enable-objc-gc --enable-long-long --enable-__cxa_atexit --disable-libunwind-exceptions --enable-clocale=gnu --enable-java-awt=gtk --with-java-home=/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-gcj-1.5.0.0/jre --with-ecj-jar=/usr/share/java/eclipse-ecj.jar --enable-gtk-cairo --disable-libjava-multilib --enable-ssp --disable-libssp --disable-werror --with-ppl --with-cloog --with-python-dir=/lib/python2.6/site-packages OS: Linux Installed from: Mandriva RPMs Konversation has bad default configuration and path Plz apply next attachement patch that fix it. I did it to get a good configuration by default in mandriva : https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=37329 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugs.kde.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. _______________________________________________ Konversation-devel mailing list Konversation-devel@... https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/konversation-devel
	[Bug 211725] Konversation has a bad default configuration by Bugzilla from rapsys@free.fr :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=211725 --- Comment #1 from rapsys <rapsys free fr> 2009-10-25 01:25:07 --- Created an attachment (id=37808) --> (http://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=37808) konversation-1.2 default config fix version following kdelibs-4.3+ api -- Configure bugmail: https://bugs.kde.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. _______________________________________________ Konversation-devel mailing list Konversation-devel@... https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/konversation-devel
	[Bug 211725] Konversation has a bad default configuration by Nicolas Lécureuil-4 :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=211725 Nicolas Lécureuil <neoclust@...> changed: What \|Removed \|Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC\| \|neoclust@... -- Configure bugmail: https://bugs.kde.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. _______________________________________________ Konversation-devel mailing list Konversation-devel@... https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/konversation-devel
	[Bug 211725] Konversation has a bad default configuration by Bugzilla from hein@kde.org :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=211725 Eike Hein <hein@...> changed: What \|Removed \|Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status\|UNCONFIRMED \|RESOLVED CC\| \|hein@... Resolution\| \|WONTFIX --- Comment #2 from Eike Hein <hein kde org> 2009-10-26 00:19:48 --- The DCC destination path was already fixed in SVN on October 15th (back to the previous default of $HOME/dccrecv). The other configuration options you changed, like enabling the tray icon by default, are the way they are intentionally (and have been this way for years) and will not be changed. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugs.kde.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. _______________________________________________ Konversation-devel mailing list Konversation-devel@... https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/konversation-devel
	[Bug 211725] Konversation has a bad default configuration by Bugzilla from hein@kde.org :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=211725 --- Comment #3 from Eike Hein <hein kde org> 2009-10-26 00:43:33 --- Hm, after having a second look, using KGlobalSettings::downloadPath() for the DCC folder might not be a bad idea though. I'll ask our DCC maintainer. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugs.kde.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. _______________________________________________ Konversation-devel mailing list Konversation-devel@... https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/konversation-devel
	[Bug 211725] Konversation has a bad default configuration by Bugzilla from rapsys@free.fr :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=211725 rapsys <rapsys@...> changed: What \|Removed \|Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #37808\|0 \|1 is obsolete\| \| --- Comment #4 from rapsys <rapsys free fr> 2009-10-26 22:51:50 --- Created an attachment (id=37864) --> (http://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=37864) Removed the hide on startup Plz keep the other default config change. - Left tab is required to allow having more than 20 channels and keep a usable ihm. - Activate trayicon like does kopete, that way end user will know there is this possibility - Skip useless event and similar are mandatory to avoid beeing notified by anoying bot or similar noise on non-unix-guru channels - downloadPath is required to finish sending files in non xdg dir - log is required to finish send logs in home dir -- Configure bugmail: https://bugs.kde.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. _______________________________________________ Konversation-devel mailing list Konversation-devel@... https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/konversation-devel
	[Bug 211725] Konversation has a bad default configuration by Bugzilla from rapsys@free.fr :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=211725 rapsys <rapsys@...> changed: What \|Removed \|Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status\|RESOLVED \|VERIFIED Resolution\|WONTFIX \|WAITINGFORINFO -- Configure bugmail: https://bugs.kde.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. _______________________________________________ Konversation-devel mailing list Konversation-devel@... https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/konversation-devel
	[Bug 211725] Konversation has a bad default configuration by Bugzilla from phrkonaleash@gmail.com :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=211725 Ryan Rix <phrkonaleash@...> changed: What \|Removed \|Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC\| \|phrkonaleash@... -- Configure bugmail: https://bugs.kde.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. _______________________________________________ Konversation-devel mailing list Konversation-devel@... https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/konversation-devel
	[Bug 211725] Konversation has a bad default configuration by Nicolas Lécureuil-4 :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=211725 Nicolas Lécureuil <neoclust@...> changed: What \|Removed \|Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status\|VERIFIED \|UNCONFIRMED Resolution\|WAITINGFORINFO \| --- Comment #5 from Nicolas Lécureuil <neoclust mandriva org> 2009-10-27 00:41:02 --- i just reopen because of the new patch -- Configure bugmail: https://bugs.kde.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. _______________________________________________ Konversation-devel mailing list Konversation-devel@... https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/konversation-devel
	[Bug 211725] Konversation has a bad default configuration by Bugzilla from hein@kde.org :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=211725 Eike Hein <hein@...> changed: What \|Removed \|Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status\|UNCONFIRMED \|RESOLVED Resolution\| \|WONTFIX --- Comment #6 from Eike Hein <hein kde org> 2009-10-27 08:47:39 --- > - Left tab is required to allow having more than 20 channels and keep a usable ihm. Most users don't start out joining 20 channels, and with relatively few channels, the treelist version of the tab bar is a waste of screen space. Our defaults are designed to cater to new users, not power users. We expect power users to be able to change the position of the tab bar on their own. > - Activate trayicon like does kopete, that way end user will know there is this possibility We strongly object to applications polluting the system tray by default. Tray icons should be opt-in, not opt-out. We also don't believe in enabling features by default merely to advertise their existence; that is bad software development practice. > - Skip useless event and similar are mandatory to avoid beeing notified by anoying bot or similar noise on non-unix-guru channels That join/part/nick events are "useless" is your personal opinion. It is not ours. We do not believe that an IRC client should hide them from users by default, and indeed no popular IRC client I'm aware of does. > - downloadPath is required to finish sending files in non xdg dir This has been discussed with our DCC maintainer -- he likes it and will make the change. > - log is required to finish send logs in home dir I can't see any compelling reasons to hide the logfiles in a hidden directory structure where they're difficult to access. IRC users tend to want to grep their logfiles frequently; the default log path reflects that. I understand that you prefer to have your IRC client configured differently, and that's fine, that's why we have these options. Defaults are not for everyone. But please do realize that in chosing the defaults, we have a greater audience to consider than just you, or ourselves for that matter. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugs.kde.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. _______________________________________________ Konversation-devel mailing list Konversation-devel@... https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/konversation-devel
	[Bug 211725] Konversation has a bad default configuration by Bugzilla from hein@kde.org :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=211725 --- Comment #7 from Eike Hein <hein kde org> 2009-10-27 08:52:53 --- (An addendum to the join/part/nick events thing: Note that these are classified as "Channel events" and won't light up the tab labels by default, for example. Thus there's no need to "to avoid beeing notified by anoying bot or similar noise" because there in fact is no such notification by default. Your change would disable them from deing displayed in the text views by default, which is a definitive no-go.) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugs.kde.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. _______________________________________________ Konversation-devel mailing list Konversation-devel@... https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/konversation-devel
	[Bug 211725] Konversation has a bad default configuration by Bugzilla from hein@kde.org :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=211725 --- Comment #8 from Eike Hein <hein kde org> 2009-10-27 10:26:15 --- Created an attachment (id=37906) --> (http://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=37906) Log file explaining the difficulty in changing the default log file path. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugs.kde.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. _______________________________________________ Konversation-devel mailing list Konversation-devel@... https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/konversation-devel
	[Bug 211725] Konversation has a bad default configuration by Bugzilla from hein@kde.org :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=211725 --- Comment #9 from Eike Hein <hein kde org> 2009-10-27 15:46:17 --- SVN commit 1041186 by hein: Use XDG download directory as default destination folder for incoming DCC file transfers as suggested by rapsys and ack'ed by buscher. CCBUG:211725 M +1 -1 konversation.kcfg WebSVN link: http://websvn.kde.org/?view=rev&revision=1041186 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugs.kde.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. _______________________________________________ Konversation-devel mailing list Konversation-devel@... https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/konversation-devel