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	[Building Sakai] I am going to say this really quietly and hope no one hears me.... by Charles Severance :: Rate this Message: \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message Have we reached the point where we should just pitch HSQL and tell folks to install MySql? HSQL is no-where - it is going nowhere - we are not even on the most recent code - we are way past the point that a "QuickStart" is essential for us to gain market share. I could change my shell scripts to do auto-setup of MySql and just tell folks to instal MySql. Frankly any developer testing on HSQL is a waste of time. Things like Spring JDBC and Hibernate simply do not care AT ALL about HSQL 1. If people are not capable of getting a MySql up and running - we are not doing them much of a favor of making it easy for them. Heck even Moodle assumes MySql is already installed..... (ducking for cover) /Chuck _______________________________________________ sakai-dev mailing list sakai-dev@... http://collab.sakaiproject.org/mailman/listinfo/sakai-dev TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send email to sakai-dev-unsubscribe@... with a subject of "unsubscribe"
	Re: [Building Sakai] I am going to say this really quietly and hope no one hears me.... by Aaron Zeckoski-3 :: Rate this Message: \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message What a coincidence! This just came up earlier today! I would say we switch to H2: http://www.h2database.com/html/main.html It's what pretty much everyone else uses AND it has a mysql compatibility mode where you can use mysql specific DDL and SQL. It's not 100% but for demoing and unit testing it will do fine. -AZ On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 10:44 PM, Charles Severance <csev@...> wrote: > Have we reached the point where we should just pitch HSQL and tell folks to install MySql? > > HSQL is no-where - it is going nowhere - we are not even on the most recent code - we are way past the point that a "QuickStart" is essential for us to gain market share. I could change my shell scripts to do auto-setup of MySql and just tell folks to instal MySql. Frankly any developer testing on HSQL is a waste of time. Things like Spring JDBC and Hibernate simply do not care AT ALL about HSQL 1. > > If people are not capable of getting a MySql up and running - we are not doing them much of a favor of making it easy for them. Heck even Moodle assumes MySql is already installed..... > > (ducking for cover) > > /Chuck > > _______________________________________________ > sakai-dev mailing list > sakai-dev@... > http://collab.sakaiproject.org/mailman/listinfo/sakai-dev > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send email to sakai-dev-unsubscribe@... with a subject of "unsubscribe" -- Aaron Zeckoski - Software Architect - http://tinyurl.com/azprofile _______________________________________________ sakai-dev mailing list sakai-dev@... http://collab.sakaiproject.org/mailman/listinfo/sakai-dev TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send email to sakai-dev-unsubscribe@... with a subject of "unsubscribe"
	Re: [Building Sakai] I am going to say this really quietly and hope no one hears me.... by Seth Theriault :: Rate this Message: \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 10:44 PM, Charles Severance <csev@...> wrote: > If people are not capable of getting a MySql up and running - we are not doing them much of a favor of making it easy for them. Heck even Moodle assumes MySql is already installed..... One of the nice things about the HSQL support is that it allows you to test something easily and quickly, straight out of the box with no further setup necessary. Perhaps we just need to change from HSQL to something else? Seth _______________________________________________ sakai-dev mailing list sakai-dev@... http://collab.sakaiproject.org/mailman/listinfo/sakai-dev TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send email to sakai-dev-unsubscribe@... with a subject of "unsubscribe"
	Re: [Building Sakai] I am going to say this really quietly and hope no one hears me.... by Steve Swinsburg-3 :: Rate this Message: \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message I was going to suggest we switch to H2 as well. As Seth says, the nice thing about using these embedded db's is you can quickly test and then blow it all away. cheers, S On 27/06/2012, at 12:50 PM, Aaron Zeckoski wrote: > What a coincidence! This just came up earlier today! > > I would say we switch to H2: > http://www.h2database.com/html/main.html > > It's what pretty much everyone else uses AND it has a mysql > compatibility mode where you can use mysql specific DDL and SQL. It's > not 100% but for demoing and unit testing it will do fine. > > -AZ > > > On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 10:44 PM, Charles Severance <csev@...> wrote: >> Have we reached the point where we should just pitch HSQL and tell folks to install MySql? >> >> HSQL is no-where - it is going nowhere - we are not even on the most recent code - we are way past the point that a "QuickStart" is essential for us to gain market share. I could change my shell scripts to do auto-setup of MySql and just tell folks to instal MySql. Frankly any developer testing on HSQL is a waste of time. Things like Spring JDBC and Hibernate simply do not care AT ALL about HSQL 1. >> >> If people are not capable of getting a MySql up and running - we are not doing them much of a favor of making it easy for them. Heck even Moodle assumes MySql is already installed..... >> >> (ducking for cover) >> >> /Chuck >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sakai-dev mailing list >> sakai-dev@... >> http://collab.sakaiproject.org/mailman/listinfo/sakai-dev >> >> TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send email to sakai-dev-unsubscribe@... with a subject of "unsubscribe" > > > > -- > Aaron Zeckoski - Software Architect - http://tinyurl.com/azprofile > _______________________________________________ > sakai-dev mailing list > sakai-dev@... > http://collab.sakaiproject.org/mailman/listinfo/sakai-dev > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send email to sakai-dev-unsubscribe@... with a subject of "unsubscribe" _______________________________________________ sakai-dev mailing list sakai-dev@... http://collab.sakaiproject.org/mailman/listinfo/sakai-dev TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send email to sakai-dev-unsubscribe@... with a subject of "unsubscribe"