[Cooker] ANNOUNCE : first release of Mandriva Seed

[Aurelien Lefebvre]

Hi,

I'm happy to announce the first public release of Mandriva Seed :

This tool will dump Mandriva One iso (only 2009 Spring RC2 for now) to
usb sticks.

Just download mandriva_seed.sh, make it executable (chmod +x
mandriva_seed.sh),
and launch it as simple user.
You will be able to select your iso, usb stick destination, and begin
ISO dump.

Moreover, this tool should work on any x86 or x86-64 Linux
distributions, so, please test it not only on Mandriva Linux ;)

Mandriva Seed should be available in the following hours on mirrors in
devel/tools/ directory.

Please report succes or failure here or on bugzilla.

Enjoy (and Happy Easter).

--
Aurelien.

[Adam Williamson]

On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 18:28 +0200, Aurelien Lefebvre wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm happy to announce the first public release of Mandriva Seed :
>
> This tool will dump Mandriva One iso (only 2009 Spring RC2 for now) to
> usb sticks.
>
> Just download mandriva_seed.sh, make it executable (chmod +x
> mandriva_seed.sh),
> and launch it as simple user.
> You will be able to select your iso, usb stick destination, and begin
> ISO dump.
>
> Moreover, this tool should work on any x86 or x86-64 Linux
> distributions, so, please test it not only on Mandriva Linux ;)
>
> Mandriva Seed should be available in the following hours on mirrors in
> devel/tools/ directory.
>
> Please report succes or failure here or on bugzilla.
>
> Enjoy (and Happy Easter).

'Seed' makes it sound like it's to do with Bugzilla, it's a pretty
misleading name.

Did you check if any existing tools to do this - like
livecd-iso-to-disk.sh from Fedora's livecd-tools - could have been used,
instead of inventing something new?
--
adamw

[Amrein-Marie Christophe]

Le vendredi 10 avril 2009 à 09:49 -0700, Adam Williamson a écrit :

> On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 18:28 +0200, Aurelien Lefebvre wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm happy to announce the first public release of Mandriva Seed :
> >
> > This tool will dump Mandriva One iso (only 2009 Spring RC2 for now) to
> > usb sticks.
> >
> > Just download mandriva_seed.sh, make it executable (chmod +x
> > mandriva_seed.sh),
> > and launch it as simple user.
> > You will be able to select your iso, usb stick destination, and begin
> > ISO dump.
> >
> > Moreover, this tool should work on any x86 or x86-64 Linux
> > distributions, so, please test it not only on Mandriva Linux ;)
> >
> > Mandriva Seed should be available in the following hours on mirrors in
> > devel/tools/ directory.
> >
> > Please report succes or failure here or on bugzilla.
> >
> > Enjoy (and Happy Easter).
>
> 'Seed' makes it sound like it's to do with Bugzilla, it's a pretty
> misleading name.
>
> Did you check if any existing tools to do this - like
> livecd-iso-to-disk.sh from Fedora's livecd-tools - could have been used,
> instead of inventing something new?

Doesn't matter. This is FOSS!

[Pascal Terjan]

On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Adam Williamson
<awilliamson@...> wrote:
> Did you check if any existing tools to do this - like
> livecd-iso-to-disk.sh from Fedora's livecd-tools - could have been used,

This one seems useless, dd would be enough

The issue is that people keep running dd if=foo.iso of=/dev/sdb1
instead of sdb and then complain it does not boot even if it was
written in bold on the wiki that you need sdX where is is only a
letter.

Plus it needs to run from any distro or windows

[Frederic Crozat]

Le vendredi 10 avril 2009 à 09:49 -0700, Adam Williamson a écrit :

> On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 18:28 +0200, Aurelien Lefebvre wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm happy to announce the first public release of Mandriva Seed :
> >
> > This tool will dump Mandriva One iso (only 2009 Spring RC2 for now) to
> > usb sticks.
> >
> > Just download mandriva_seed.sh, make it executable (chmod +x
> > mandriva_seed.sh),
> > and launch it as simple user.
> > You will be able to select your iso, usb stick destination, and begin
> > ISO dump.
> >
> > Moreover, this tool should work on any x86 or x86-64 Linux
> > distributions, so, please test it not only on Mandriva Linux ;)
> >
> > Mandriva Seed should be available in the following hours on mirrors in
> > devel/tools/ directory.
> >
> > Please report succes or failure here or on bugzilla.
> >
> > Enjoy (and Happy Easter).
>
> 'Seed' makes it sound like it's to do with Bugzilla, it's a pretty
> misleading name.

Why a "seed" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seed ) have anything to do
with bugzilla ?

> Did you check if any existing tools to do this - like
> livecd-iso-to-disk.sh from Fedora's livecd-tools - could have been used,
> instead of inventing something new?

We did : Mandriva Seed is based on Fedora LiveUSBCreator for the UI
part, but thanks to ISO hybrid being used on Mandriva One ISO, Mandriva
Seed is more of GUI around dd, with nice way to choose device target and
to become root. Maybe in the future, we will add ISO download too.

Window version is also in the work, should be available next week.
--
Frederic Crozat <fcrozat@...>
Mandriva

[Pascal Terjan]

On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Aurelien Lefebvre
<alefebvre@...> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm happy to announce the first public release of Mandriva Seed :
>
> This tool will dump Mandriva One iso (only 2009 Spring RC2 for now) to usb
> sticks.
>
> Just download mandriva_seed.sh, make it executable (chmod +x
> mandriva_seed.sh),
> and launch it as simple user.
> You will be able to select your iso, usb stick destination, and begin ISO
> dump.
>
> Moreover, this tool should work on any x86 or x86-64 Linux distributions,
> so, please test it not only on Mandriva Linux ;)
>
> Mandriva Seed should be available in the following hours on mirrors in
> devel/tools/ directory.
>

It's currently directly in devel/

ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/MandrivaLinux/devel/mandriva_seed.sh

> Please report succes or failure here or on bugzilla.
>
> Enjoy (and Happy Easter).
>
> --
> Aurelien.
>
>

[Adam Williamson]

On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 19:27 +0200, Pascal Terjan wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Adam Williamson
> <awilliamson@...> wrote:
> > Did you check if any existing tools to do this - like
> > livecd-iso-to-disk.sh from Fedora's livecd-tools - could have been used,
>
> This one seems useless, dd would be enough
>
> The issue is that people keep running dd if=foo.iso of=/dev/sdb1
> instead of sdb and then complain it does not boot even if it was
> written in bold on the wiki that you need sdX where is is only a
> letter.
>
> Plus it needs to run from any distro or windows

livecd-tools does run from any distro, and there's a Windows tool as
well. But fine, just trying to avoid unnecessary NIH syndrome. The name
really could stand to change, though...
--
adamw

[Pascal Terjan]

On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Adam Williamson
<awilliamson@...> wrote:

> On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 19:27 +0200, Pascal Terjan wrote:
>> On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Adam Williamson
>> <awilliamson@...> wrote:
>> > Did you check if any existing tools to do this - like
>> > livecd-iso-to-disk.sh from Fedora's livecd-tools - could have been used,
>>
>> This one seems useless, dd would be enough
>>
>> The issue is that people keep running dd if=foo.iso of=/dev/sdb1
>> instead of sdb and then complain it does not boot even if it was
>> written in bold on the wiki that you need sdX where is is only a
>> letter.
>>
>> Plus it needs to run from any distro or windows
>
> livecd-tools does run from any distro, and there's a Windows tool as
> well. But fine, just trying to avoid unnecessary NIH syndrome. The name
> really could stand to change, though...

Well livecd-iso-to-disk.sh that you talked about is useless as it only
does things that we don't need, we only need a dd frontend and I don't
think it will work fine under windows

But as Fred said, we used the graphical interface of Fedora tool
(which is why it is 40MB as it needs python-qt4)

What's wrong with the name ?

[Liam R E Quin]

On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 20:20 +0200, Pascal Terjan wrote:
[...]
> What's wrong with the name ?

A seed is someone who shares something with bittorrent, no?

Of course, it's also sperm :-)

Liam

--
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Ankh: irc.sorcery.net irc.gnome.org www.advogato.org

[Adam Williamson]

On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 14:33 -0400, Liam R E Quin wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 20:20 +0200, Pascal Terjan wrote:
> [...]
> > What's wrong with the name ?
>
> A seed is someone who shares something with bittorrent, no?

Yes, exactly. People who have the full file and are providing it to
other Bittorrent users are 'seeds' or 'seeders'. Remember, Mandriva has
an Early Seeders program :) I think this will be the association people
automatically come up with when they hear the name - they'll think it's
an easy way to seed Mandriva torrents (as drakbt actually is) or
something like that.
--
adamw

[Juan Luis Baptiste-3]

Hi,

On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Aurelien Lefebvre <alefebvre@...> wrote:

Hi,

I'm happy to announce the first public release of Mandriva Seed :

This tool will dump Mandriva One iso (only 2009 Spring RC2 for now) to usb sticks.

Just download mandriva_seed.sh, make it executable (chmod +x mandriva_seed.sh),
and launch it as simple user.
You will be able to select your iso, usb stick destination, and begin ISO dump.

Moreover, this tool should work on any x86 or x86-64 Linux distributions, so, please test it not only on Mandriva Linux ;)

Mandriva Seed should be available in the following hours on mirrors in devel/tools/ directory.

Please report succes or failure here or on bugzilla.

Enjoy (and Happy Easter).

--
Aurelien.

What about Fedora Revisor[1] or SuSE Studio[2] ? if I'm understanding correctly they have the same purpose as this script ?

[1]http://revisor.fedoraunity.org/
[1]http://www.pcplus.co.uk/node/3020
[2]http://www.susestudio.com/


Cheers,

Juancho

 

I didn't heard about Revisor, but Studio is a tool aimed to build a
personal distro based on opensuse packages/config throught a web
interface. It's not really a way to share Suse's isos

2009/4/11 Juan Luis Baptiste <juan.baptiste@...>:

> Hi,
>
> On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Aurelien Lefebvre <alefebvre@...>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm happy to announce the first public release of Mandriva Seed :
>>
>> This tool will dump Mandriva One iso (only 2009 Spring RC2 for now) to usb
>> sticks.
>>
>> Just download mandriva_seed.sh, make it executable (chmod +x
>> mandriva_seed.sh),
>> and launch it as simple user.
>> You will be able to select your iso, usb stick destination, and begin ISO
>> dump.
>>
>> Moreover, this tool should work on any x86 or x86-64 Linux distributions,
>> so, please test it not only on Mandriva Linux ;)
>>
>> Mandriva Seed should be available in the following hours on mirrors in
>> devel/tools/ directory.
>>
>> Please report succes or failure here or on bugzilla.
>>
>> Enjoy (and Happy Easter).
>>
>> --
>> Aurelien.
>
> What about Fedora Revisor[1] or SuSE Studio[2] ? if I'm understanding
> correctly they have the same purpose as this script ?
>
> [1]http://revisor.fedoraunity.org/
> [1]http://www.pcplus.co.uk/node/3020
> [2]http://www.susestudio.com/
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Juancho
>
>
>
>

[Jan Ciger]

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Adam Williamson wrote:

> On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 14:33 -0400, Liam R E Quin wrote:
>> On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 20:20 +0200, Pascal Terjan wrote:
>> [...]
>>> What's wrong with the name ?
>> A seed is someone who shares something with bittorrent, no?
>
> Yes, exactly. People who have the full file and are providing it to
> other Bittorrent users are 'seeds' or 'seeders'. Remember, Mandriva has
> an Early Seeders program :) I think this will be the association people
> automatically come up with when they hear the name - they'll think it's
> an easy way to seed Mandriva torrents (as drakbt actually is) or
> something like that.

+1 - that was exactly my impression when I saw the name for the first time.

Otherwise it is a good idea - asking people to run dd directly is asking
for disaster. It is only a typo away from a wiped harddrive. Anything
that can make it more idiot-proof is good.

Regards,

Jan

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On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 12:17 AM, Adam Williamson
<awilliamson@...> wrote:

> On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 14:33 -0400, Liam R E Quin wrote:
>> On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 20:20 +0200, Pascal Terjan wrote:
>> [...]
>> > What's wrong with the name ?
>>
>> A seed is someone who shares something with bittorrent, no?
>
> Yes, exactly. People who have the full file and are providing it to
> other Bittorrent users are 'seeds' or 'seeders'. Remember, Mandriva has
> an Early Seeders program :) I think this will be the association people
> automatically come up with when they hear the name - they'll think it's
> an easy way to seed Mandriva torrents (as drakbt actually is) or
> something like that.
> --
> adamw
>
>

To honest when I read the topic title I though that early seeders isos
were made available for rc2

[Adam Williamson]

On Sat, 2009-04-11 at 19:32 +0200, Jan Ciger wrote:

> Otherwise it is a good idea - asking people to run dd directly is asking
> for disaster. It is only a typo away from a wiped harddrive. Anything
> that can make it more idiot-proof is good.

That's crazy! Only a complete *idiot* would ever get his USB floppy
drive and his harddisk confused and dd a FreeDOS boot image onto the
first 1.44MB of his hard disk.

Man, anyone who did that would completely suck. I mean they'd have to be
a complete idiot.

(...it's okay, I managed to get most of the data back in the end...)

:)
--
adamw

[Jan Ciger]

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Adam Williamson wrote:

>
> (...it's okay, I managed to get most of the data back in the end...)
>
> :)

You too? :-p

Jan
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[Wanderlei Antonio Cavassin]

Em Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 08:03:19PM +0200, Pascal Terjan escreveu:

> On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Aurelien Lefebvre
> <alefebvre@...> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm happy to announce the first public release of Mandriva Seed :
> >
> > This tool will dump Mandriva One iso (only 2009 Spring RC2 for now) to usb
> > sticks.
> >
> > Just download mandriva_seed.sh, make it executable (chmod +x
> > mandriva_seed.sh),
> > and launch it as simple user.
> > You will be able to select your iso, usb stick destination, and begin ISO
> > dump.
> >
> > Moreover, this tool should work on any x86 or x86-64 Linux distributions,
> > so, please test it not only on Mandriva Linux ;)
> >
> > Mandriva Seed should be available in the following hours on mirrors in
> > devel/tools/ directory.
> >
>
> It's currently directly in devel/
>
> ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/MandrivaLinux/devel/mandriva_seed.sh

in devel/tools/

ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/MandrivaLinux/devel/tools/mandriva_seed.sh

[Pascal Terjan]

On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Wanderlei Antonio Cavassin
<cavassin@...> wrote:

> Em Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 08:03:19PM +0200, Pascal Terjan escreveu:
>> On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Aurelien Lefebvre
>> <alefebvre@...> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I'm happy to announce the first public release of Mandriva Seed :
>> >
>> > This tool will dump Mandriva One iso (only 2009 Spring RC2 for now) to usb
>> > sticks.
>> >
>> > Just download mandriva_seed.sh, make it executable (chmod +x
>> > mandriva_seed.sh),
>> > and launch it as simple user.
>> > You will be able to select your iso, usb stick destination, and begin ISO
>> > dump.
>> >
>> > Moreover, this tool should work on any x86 or x86-64 Linux distributions,
>> > so, please test it not only on Mandriva Linux ;)
>> >
>> > Mandriva Seed should be available in the following hours on mirrors in
>> > devel/tools/ directory.
>> >
>>
>> It's currently directly in devel/
>>
>> ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/MandrivaLinux/devel/mandriva_seed.sh
>
> in devel/tools/
>
> ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/MandrivaLinux/devel/tools/mandriva_seed.sh
>
>

Yes it looks like it was moved to the right place :)

[Jim Whitby-2]

Pascal Terjan wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Wanderlei Antonio Cavassin
> <cavassin@...> wrote:
>> Em Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 08:03:19PM +0200, Pascal Terjan escreveu:
>>> On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Aurelien Lefebvre
>>> <alefebvre@...> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I'm happy to announce the first public release of Mandriva Seed :
>>>>
>>>> This tool will dump Mandriva One iso (only 2009 Spring RC2 for now) to usb
>>>> sticks.
>>>>
>>>> Just download mandriva_seed.sh, make it executable (chmod +x
>>>> mandriva_seed.sh),
>>>> and launch it as simple user.
>>>> You will be able to select your iso, usb stick destination, and begin ISO
>>>> dump.
>>>>
>>>> Moreover, this tool should work on any x86 or x86-64 Linux distributions,
>>>> so, please test it not only on Mandriva Linux ;)
>>>>
>>>> Mandriva Seed should be available in the following hours on mirrors in
>>>> devel/tools/ directory.
>>>>
>>> It's currently directly in devel/
>>>
>>> ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/MandrivaLinux/devel/mandriva_seed.sh
>> in devel/tools/
>>
>> ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/MandrivaLinux/devel/tools/mandriva_seed.sh
>>
>>
>
> Yes it looks like it was moved to the right place :)

Just got it. just tried it. Got....

Command './x86_64/liveusb-creator' not found.

oh well.


--
The prettiest women are almost always the most boring, and that is why
some people feel there is no God.
                -- Woody Allen, "Without Feathers"
----------------------
Mandriva Linux release 2009.0 (Official) for x86_64
2.6.27.19-desktop-1mnb AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5000+
----------------------

[Laurent Suchet]

----- "Jim Whitby" <jim@...> a écrit :

| Pascal Terjan wrote:
| > On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Wanderlei Antonio Cavassin
| > <cavassin@...> wrote:
| >> Em Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 08:03:19PM +0200, Pascal Terjan escreveu:
| >>> On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Aurelien Lefebvre
| >>> <alefebvre@...> wrote:
| >>>> Hi,
| >>>>
| >>>> I'm happy to announce the first public release of Mandriva Seed
| :
| >>>>
| >>>> This tool will dump Mandriva One iso (only 2009 Spring RC2 for
| now) to usb
| >>>> sticks.
| >>>>
| >>>> Just download mandriva_seed.sh, make it executable (chmod +x
| >>>> mandriva_seed.sh),
| >>>> and launch it as simple user.
| >>>> You will be able to select your iso, usb stick destination, and
| begin ISO
| >>>> dump.
| >>>>
| >>>> Moreover, this tool should work on any x86 or x86-64 Linux
| distributions,
| >>>> so, please test it not only on Mandriva Linux ;)
| >>>>
| >>>> Mandriva Seed should be available in the following hours on
| mirrors in
| >>>> devel/tools/ directory.
| >>>>
| >>> It's currently directly in devel/
| >>>
| >>>
| ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/MandrivaLinux/devel/mandriva_seed.sh
| >> in devel/tools/
| >>
| >>
| ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/MandrivaLinux/devel/tools/mandriva_seed.sh
| >>
| >>
| >
| > Yes it looks like it was moved to the right place :)
|
| Just got it. just tried it. Got....
|
| Command './x86_64/liveusb-creator' not found.
|
| oh well.


Another problem is the need to have xterm installed... A rpm format would enable to handle dependancies.

LS