[Cooker] Break in x11-server upgrade

[npomarede]

On Mon, 23 Jun 2008, Dick Gevers wrote:

> On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 22:37:35 +0200 (CEST), Pomarede Nicolas wrote about Re:
> [Cooker] Re: Break in x11-server upgrade:
>
>> I don't know if my problem is related to what you explain, but since the
>> x11 upgrade and the impossibility to start X, I applied the
>> 'Move-things-back' scripts that was posted
>
> I looke several times at the script, but I saw it also changed a few times.
> When I ran it here it stuck on "too many arguments" or stg like that. So I
> moved stuff manually nd I think I covered all the way it should be
> rearranged.
>
>> , then ran 'rpm -Va' to check
>> which files needed to be revalidated with rpm --replacepkg.
>
> Yes, but the risk is that some packages have files in both the wrong and
> the right place.
>
>> This fixed the problem, I can run startx from the tty and kde3 starts.
>>
>> But I'm using autologin, and in that case, X starts, but instead of
>> starting kde3, I only get an xterm with no window manager.
>> Only solution is to kill X, use kdm to go back to console and then run
>> startx.
>
> Dunno, I use gdm and GNOME mostly.
>
>> Also, when booting and starting services, I get :
>>
>> starting X font server : xfs error: CONFIG: can't open configuration file
>> "/etc/X11/fs/config" xfs fatal error: couldn't read config file
>>
>> Indeed, /etc/X11/fs/config doesn't exist.
>
> AFAIK the xfs server is deprecated and not normally in Cooker anymore for
> quite a long time (about a year???).
>

Are you sure ? But in that case, why is xfs-1.0.8-1mdv2009.0 still
provided, including recent changes in the changelog ?
What apps are requiring xfs server to run, is it safe to remove it ?

Nicolas

[Dick Gevers]

On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 22:59:01 +0200 (CEST), Pomarede Nicolas wrote about Re:
[Cooker] Re: Break in x11-server upgrade:

>Are you sure ? But in that case, why is xfs-1.0.8-1mdv2009.0 still
>provided, including recent changes in the changelog ?
>What apps are requiring xfs server to run, is it safe to remove it ?

Yes I am sure. It can still be run, but by default it isn't. But the
fontpath config should be adjusted to cover the situation w/o xfs.

I'm sure that in the Cooker archives you'll find howto. See also:
https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=32051. So the introduction should
have been a while before that.

See also:
http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/index.php?title=Releases/Mandriva/2008.0/Notes&action=edit§ion=34

Cheers,
=Dick Gevers=

[Dick Gevers]

On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 21:06:42 +0000, Dick Gevers wrote about Re: [Cooker]
Re: Break in x11-server upgrade:

>See also:
>http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/index.php?title=Releases/Mandriva/2008.0/Notes&action=edit§ion=34

Better:
http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Releases/Mandriva/2008.0/Notes 
See section: XFS no longer used

Adam Williamson wrote:

> On Mon, 2008-06-23 at 21:36 +0100, Colin Guthrie wrote:
>> Laurent Suchet wrote:
>> > It restored the menu in gdm, but when launching gnome I have an
>> > immédiate crash;
>> >
>> > gdm wants to find /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession and doesn't find it... I can't
>> > find any package providing this file. The same when launching KDE. Only
>> > gnome(or kde)/openbox and works
>>
>> It seems this is installed here:
>>
>> xinitrc:/usr/share/X11/xdm/Xsession
>>
>> I don't know which is right with regards to location, but Something
>> needs done about it if gdm looks for it in /etc/X11
>
> I think xinitrc package is broken:
>
> [root@lenovo X11]# urpmf /etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess
> xinitrc:/etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess
>
> [root@lenovo X11]# rpm -e --nodeps --noscripts xinitrc
> [root@lenovo X11]# urpmi --noscripts xinitrc
>
>
>

ftp://carroll.cac.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrivalinux/devel/cooker/i586/media/main/release/xinitrc-2.4.19-12mdv2009.0.noarch.rpm

> installing xinitrc-2.4.19-12mdv2009.0.noarch.rpm
> from /var/cache/urpmi/rpms
> Preparing...
> #############################################
>       1/1: xinitrc
> #############################################
> [root@lenovo X11]# ls -l /etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 2008-06-23 13:41 /etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess
> -> ../../../../etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess
>
> (that last line is red, indicating a broken symlink).

https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=41612

(which was closed as won't fix);

pts/0}% rpm -V xinitrc
S.5....T  c /etc/X11/Xresources
{pts/0}% rpm -q xinitrc
xinitrc-2.4.19-12mdv2009.0
{pts/0}% ll /usr/share/X11/xdm/
итого 40
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  390 2008-06-20 17:59 GiveConsole*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  249 2008-06-20 17:59 TakeConsole*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   31 2008-06-22 10:02
Xaccess -> ../../../../etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  236 2008-06-20 17:59 Xreset*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   34 2008-06-22 10:02
Xresources -> ../../../../etc/X11/xdm/Xresources
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4014 2008-06-20 17:59 Xresources.rpmnew
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4042 2005-06-13 01:45 Xresources~
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   32 2008-06-22 10:02
Xservers -> ../../../../etc/X11/xdm/Xservers
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root   68 2008-06-20 17:59 Xsession*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  550 2008-06-20 17:59 Xsetup_0*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  410 2008-06-20 17:59 Xstartup*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  373 2008-06-20 17:59 Xwilling*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   34 2008-06-22 10:02
xdm-config -> ../../../../etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1281 2008-06-20 17:59 xdm-config.rpmnew
{pts/0}% ll /etc/X11/xdm
итого 16
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3538 2008-06-20 17:59 Xaccess
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4014 2008-06-20 17:59 Xresources
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  864 2008-06-20 17:59 Xservers
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1281 2008-06-20 17:59 xdm-config

(all links are green)

so well, I do not see anything that is broken; layout is logical
as well (config files are in /etc, scripts are in /usr/share).

So I'd say all those display managers has to be fixed.

[Laurent Suchet]

Andrey Borzenkov a écrit :

> Adam Williamson wrote:
>
>  
>> On Mon, 2008-06-23 at 21:36 +0100, Colin Guthrie wrote:
>>    
>>> Laurent Suchet wrote:
>>>      
>>>> It restored the menu in gdm, but when launching gnome I have an
>>>> immédiate crash;
>>>>
>>>> gdm wants to find /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession and doesn't find it... I can't
>>>> find any package providing this file. The same when launching KDE. Only
>>>> gnome(or kde)/openbox and works
>>>>        
>>> It seems this is installed here:
>>>
>>> xinitrc:/usr/share/X11/xdm/Xsession
>>>
>>> I don't know which is right with regards to location, but Something
>>> needs done about it if gdm looks for it in /etc/X11
>>>      
>> I think xinitrc package is broken:
>>
>> [root@lenovo X11]# urpmf /etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess
>> xinitrc:/etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess
>>
>> [root@lenovo X11]# rpm -e --nodeps --noscripts xinitrc
>> [root@lenovo X11]# urpmi --noscripts xinitrc
>>
>>
>>
>>    
> ftp://carroll.cac.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrivalinux/devel/cooker/i586/media/main/release/xinitrc-2.4.19-12mdv2009.0.noarch.rpm
>  
>> installing xinitrc-2.4.19-12mdv2009.0.noarch.rpm
>> from /var/cache/urpmi/rpms
>> Preparing...
>> #############################################
>>       1/1: xinitrc
>> #############################################
>> [root@lenovo X11]# ls -l /etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess
>> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 2008-06-23 13:41 /etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess
>> -> ../../../../etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess
>>
>> (that last line is red, indicating a broken symlink).
>>    
>
> https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=41612
>
> (which was closed as won't fix);
>
> pts/0}% rpm -V xinitrc
> S.5....T  c /etc/X11/Xresources
> {pts/0}% rpm -q xinitrc
> xinitrc-2.4.19-12mdv2009.0
> {pts/0}% ll /usr/share/X11/xdm/
>
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   32 2008-06-22 10:02
> Xservers -> ../../../../etc/X11/xdm/Xservers
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root   68 2008-06-20 17:59 Xsession*
>
>
> (all links are green)
>
> so well, I do not see anything that is broken; layout is logical
> as well (config files are in /etc, scripts are in /usr/share).
>
> So I'd say all those display managers has to be fixed.
>
>
>  

The fact is that I don't have anything called Xsession in /etc/X11/xdm/
even after reinstalling xinitrc (at least twice) with --replacepkgs.

I have other files but not this one...... And how is it possible that
openbox/gnome, openbox/kde, e17 works and not KDE and Gnome.... The
launching processes are not the same ?

I'm not at home today so I can't investigate further

LS

[Steve Morris-5]

Laurent Suchet wrote:

> Andrey Borzenkov a écrit :
>> Adam Williamson wrote:
>>
>>  
>>> On Mon, 2008-06-23 at 21:36 +0100, Colin Guthrie wrote:
>>>    
>>>> Laurent Suchet wrote:
>>>>      
>>>>> It restored the menu in gdm, but when launching gnome I have an
>>>>> immédiate crash;
>>>>>
>>>>> gdm wants to find /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession and doesn't find it... I
>>>>> can't
>>>>> find any package providing this file. The same when launching KDE.
>>>>> Only
>>>>> gnome(or kde)/openbox and works
>>>>>        
>>>> It seems this is installed here:
>>>>
>>>> xinitrc:/usr/share/X11/xdm/Xsession
>>>>
>>>> I don't know which is right with regards to location, but Something
>>>> needs done about it if gdm looks for it in /etc/X11
>>>>      
>>> I think xinitrc package is broken:
>>>
>>> [root@lenovo X11]# urpmf /etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess
>>> xinitrc:/etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess
>>>
>>> [root@lenovo X11]# rpm -e --nodeps --noscripts xinitrc
>>> [root@lenovo X11]# urpmi --noscripts xinitrc
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    
>> ftp://carroll.cac.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrivalinux/devel/cooker/i586/media/main/release/xinitrc-2.4.19-12mdv2009.0.noarch.rpm
>>
>>  
>>> installing xinitrc-2.4.19-12mdv2009.0.noarch.rpm
>>> from /var/cache/urpmi/rpms
>>> Preparing...
>>> #############################################
>>>       1/1: xinitrc
>>> #############################################
>>> [root@lenovo X11]# ls -l /etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess
>>> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 2008-06-23 13:41 /etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess
>>> -> ../../../../etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess
>>>
>>> (that last line is red, indicating a broken symlink).
>>>    
>>
>> https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=41612
>>
>> (which was closed as won't fix);
>>
>> pts/0}% rpm -V xinitrc
>> S.5....T  c /etc/X11/Xresources
>> {pts/0}% rpm -q xinitrc
>> xinitrc-2.4.19-12mdv2009.0
>> {pts/0}% ll /usr/share/X11/xdm/
>>
>> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   32 2008-06-22 10:02
>> Xservers -> ../../../../etc/X11/xdm/Xservers
>> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root   68 2008-06-20 17:59 Xsession*
>>
>>
>> (all links are green)
>>
>> so well, I do not see anything that is broken; layout is logical
>> as well (config files are in /etc, scripts are in /usr/share).
>>
>> So I'd say all those display managers has to be fixed.
>>
>>
>>  
> The fact is that I don't have anything called Xsession in
> /etc/X11/xdm/ even after reinstalling xinitrc (at least twice) with
> --replacepkgs.
>
> I have other files but not this one...... And how is it possible that
> openbox/gnome, openbox/kde, e17 works and not KDE and Gnome.... The
> launching processes are not the same ?
>
> I'm not at home today so I can't investigate further
>
> LS
>

FWIW I still have xinitrc 2.4.19-10mdv2009.0 and /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession

still exists.

regards,
Steve


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[Frank Griffin-4]

Steve Morris wrote:
>>
> FWIW I still have xinitrc 2.4.19-10mdv2009.0 and /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession
> still exists.

On a fresh June 21 cooker install with xinitrc-2.4.19-12mdv2009.0
/usr/share/X11/xdm/Xsession exists as a regular file but
/etc/X11/xdm/Xsession does not exist at all.

Frank Griffin wrote:

> Steve Morris wrote:
>>>
>> FWIW I still have xinitrc 2.4.19-10mdv2009.0 and /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession
>> still exists.
>
> On a fresh June 21 cooker install with xinitrc-2.4.19-12mdv2009.0
> /usr/share/X11/xdm/Xsession exists as a regular file but
> /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession does not exist at all.

Yes; and so if this is final location display managers should be fixed to
use it.

[npomarede]

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008, Andrey Borzenkov wrote:

> Frank Griffin wrote:
>
>> Steve Morris wrote:
>>>>
>>> FWIW I still have xinitrc 2.4.19-10mdv2009.0 and /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession
>>> still exists.
>>
>> On a fresh June 21 cooker install with xinitrc-2.4.19-12mdv2009.0
>> /usr/share/X11/xdm/Xsession exists as a regular file but
>> /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession does not exist at all.
>
> Yes; and so if this is final location display managers should be fixed to
> use it.

I agree, kdm for kde3 is not able to start a session with a specific
window manager (kde3, gnome, evilwm), I only get a xterm with no
decoration (while startx is working fine when run from a tty console)