[Fwd: Re: kdebase-runtime upgrade problems]

[Arthur Marsh]

Hi, I'm overdue for sleep now, but would like to know if anyone is up to
packaging Quanta 3.5.X so that it works on Debian with KDE 4.3.0?

Rosegarden and Quanta are the main reason that I run KDE.

Arthur.

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: kdebase-runtime upgrade problems
Resent-Date: Thu,  6 Aug 2009 12:25:04 +0000 (UTC)
Resent-From: debian-kde@...
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:24:33 +0300
From: Modestas Vainius <modestas@...>
To: debian-kde@...
CC: Arthur Marsh <arthur.marsh@...>
Newsgroups: gmane.linux.debian.user.kde
References: <f3dda8c30908050649m3bafa43j4c619caa883742fc@...>
<200908051710.57593.modestas@...>
<jitqk6-4gf.ln1@...>

Hello,

On ketvirtadienis 06 Rugpjūtis 2009 15:06:05 Arthur Marsh wrote:

> Thanks for the quick turnaround, but it leaves me with an interesting
> situation.
>
> I run most packages from unstable, but have kept KDE at 3.5.9/3.5.10 as
> my reason for running KDE in the first place was Quanta, which is still
> at 4:3.5.9-3, and does not "see" cervisia versions later than 4:3.5.9-3
> and needs kdebase-kio-plugins 4:3.5.X also.
>
> I have been able to run KDE 3.5.9/3.5.10 with some KDE 4.X packages
> (e.g. okular) where X <= 2.4.
>
> With KDE 4.3.Y hitting unstable, I have had to hold packages like okular
> at version 4.2.4 to avoid upgrading to KDE 4.X as the base environment.
>
> Is it possible to migrate to KDE 4.3.Z and leave enough KDE 3.5.whatever
> compatibility to run programs such as Quanta and Rosegarden which are a
> long way from being ported to KDE 4.x with full functionality?

With the upload of KDE 4.3, this has become a lot harder. Old
kdebase-data and
kdebase-runtime are no longer co-installable (intentionally). We have
stated
many times that we are NOT willing to support KDE 3.5 desktop in sid. We
have
also stated that we are willing to help other people to get some KDE3 apps
like Quanta working with KDE 4 desktop (with proper (re)packaging of it).
Therefore, you are very welcome to start (re)packaging Quanta.

Alternatively, you can hack binary package Depends: field and see it if the
end result works without some dependencies.

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Hi

I just updated to 4.3 on Kubuntu (worth it). I noticed that the updater wanted
to remove Quanta as it depends on certain '=' 3.5 packages that have been
updated to 4.30.
To solve it, I did the update, removed quanta and reinstalled it after the
update. This solution downgraded the dependencies back to 3.50 and Quanta runs
ok. I don't need kfilereplace 4.3 etc for anything else.

Not sure if that will work in Debian, but it may help as they are both APT
based.

Cheers
James

On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:57:46 pm Arthur Marsh wrote:

> Hi, I'm overdue for sleep now, but would like to know if anyone is up to
> packaging Quanta 3.5.X so that it works on Debian with KDE 4.3.0?
>
> Rosegarden and Quanta are the main reason that I run KDE.
>
> Arthur.
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: kdebase-runtime upgrade problems
> Resent-Date: Thu,  6 Aug 2009 12:25:04 +0000 (UTC)
> Resent-From: debian-kde@...
> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:24:33 +0300
> From: Modestas Vainius <modestas@...>
> To: debian-kde@...
> CC: Arthur Marsh <arthur.marsh@...>
> Newsgroups: gmane.linux.debian.user.kde
> References: <f3dda8c30908050649m3bafa43j4c619caa883742fc@...>
> <200908051710.57593.modestas@...>
> <jitqk6-4gf.ln1@...>
>
> Hello,
>
> On ketvirtadienis 06 Rugpjūtis 2009 15:06:05 Arthur Marsh wrote:
> > Thanks for the quick turnaround, but it leaves me with an interesting
> > situation.
> >
> > I run most packages from unstable, but have kept KDE at 3.5.9/3.5.10 as
> > my reason for running KDE in the first place was Quanta, which is still
> > at 4:3.5.9-3, and does not "see" cervisia versions later than 4:3.5.9-3
> > and needs kdebase-kio-plugins 4:3.5.X also.
> >
> > I have been able to run KDE 3.5.9/3.5.10 with some KDE 4.X packages
> > (e.g. okular) where X <= 2.4.
> >
> > With KDE 4.3.Y hitting unstable, I have had to hold packages like okular
> > at version 4.2.4 to avoid upgrading to KDE 4.X as the base environment.
> >
> > Is it possible to migrate to KDE 4.3.Z and leave enough KDE 3.5.whatever
> > compatibility to run programs such as Quanta and Rosegarden which are a
> > long way from being ported to KDE 4.x with full functionality?
>
> With the upload of KDE 4.3, this has become a lot harder. Old
> kdebase-data and
> kdebase-runtime are no longer co-installable (intentionally). We have
> stated
> many times that we are NOT willing to support KDE 3.5 desktop in sid. We
> have
> also stated that we are willing to help other people to get some KDE3 apps
> like Quanta working with KDE 4 desktop (with proper (re)packaging of it).
> Therefore, you are very welcome to start (re)packaging Quanta.
>
> Alternatively, you can hack binary package Depends: field and see it if the
> end result works without some dependencies.

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Many thanks
James


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