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[GSOC] HTML5 Proposal
by Ali Ok-3
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Hi,
I've written my GSOC proposal here : http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/GSoC2010_HTML5 Could you review it and provide me some feedback? After your feedback, we'll move it to ASF GSoC wiki. Thanks & Regards, Ali -- My Blog: http://blog.aliok.com.tr Twitter: http://twitter.com/aliok_tr |
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Re: [GSOC] HTML5 Proposal
by Matthias Wessendorf-4
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Hi Ali,
this looks good to me. Any other comment ? -Matthias On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 7:01 PM, Ali Ok <aliok@...> wrote: > Hi, > I've written my GSOC proposal here : > http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/GSoC2010_HTML5 > Could you review it and provide me some feedback? > > After your feedback, we'll move it to ASF GSoC wiki. > > Thanks & Regards, > Ali > > -- > My Blog: http://blog.aliok.com.tr > Twitter: http://twitter.com/aliok_tr > > -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf |
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Re: [GSOC] HTML5 Proposal
by Bruno Aranda
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It looks good to me too!
Bruno
On 22 March 2010 14:11, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@...> wrote: Hi Ali, |
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Re: [GSOC] HTML5 Proposal
by Cagatay Civici
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Looks good to me as well, Good Luck Ali!
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Bruno Aranda <brunoaranda@...> wrote: It looks good to me too! -- Cagatay Civici JSF EG | PrimeFaces Lead | Apache MyFaces PMC http://www.primefaces.org |
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Re: [GSOC] HTML5 Proposal
by Jan-Kees van Andel
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Looks good.
Maybe one little thing, the prefix h5 might be more appropriate for the library, even though there is also an html tag named h5. hx sounds like HTML extensions to me and HTML5 is not really an extension. Regards, Jan-Kees 2010/3/22 Cagatay Civici <cagatay.civici@...> Looks good to me as well, Good Luck Ali! |
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Re: [GSOC] HTML5 Proposal
by Matthias Wessendorf-4
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that's details, for the actual project ;-)
BTW. I am just signing up as a mentor, after that I will bring this wiki txt to our jira. -Matthias On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Jan-Kees van Andel <jankeesvanandel@...> wrote: > Looks good. > > Maybe one little thing, the prefix h5 might be more appropriate for the > library, even though there is also an html tag named h5. > hx sounds like HTML extensions to me and HTML5 is not really an extension. > > Regards, > Jan-Kees > > 2010/3/22 Cagatay Civici <cagatay.civici@...> >> >> Looks good to me as well, Good Luck Ali! >> >> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Bruno Aranda <brunoaranda@...> >> wrote: >>> >>> It looks good to me too! >>> Bruno >>> >>> On 22 March 2010 14:11, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@...> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Ali, >>>> >>>> this looks good to me. >>>> >>>> Any other comment ? >>>> >>>> -Matthias >>>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 7:01 PM, Ali Ok <aliok@...> wrote: >>>> > Hi, >>>> > I've written my GSOC proposal here : >>>> > http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/GSoC2010_HTML5 >>>> > Could you review it and provide me some feedback? >>>> > >>>> > After your feedback, we'll move it to ASF GSoC wiki. >>>> > >>>> > Thanks & Regards, >>>> > Ali >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > My Blog: http://blog.aliok.com.tr >>>> > Twitter: http://twitter.com/aliok_tr >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Matthias Wessendorf >>>> >>>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >>>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Cagatay Civici >> JSF EG | PrimeFaces Lead | Apache MyFaces PMC >> http://www.primefaces.org > > -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf |
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Re: [GSOC] HTML5 Proposal
by Jan-Kees van Andel
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Yeah, the rest looks very good. :)
/JK 2010/3/22 Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@...> that's details, for the actual project ;-) |
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Re: [GSOC] HTML5 Proposal
by Matthias Wessendorf-4
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Ah,
interesting: This is how tomcat does it. They "group" their tickets: http://wiki.apache.org/tomcat/SummerOfCode2010 and point to the JIRA entries. Ok, so let me move this HTML5 specifc content to a JIRA ticket. After done, I'll create a "grouping" wiki page as well -Matthias On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Jan-Kees van Andel <jankeesvanandel@...> wrote: > Yeah, the rest looks very good. :) > > /JK > > > 2010/3/22 Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@...> >> >> that's details, for the actual project ;-) >> >> BTW. I am just signing up as a mentor, after that I will bring this >> wiki txt to our jira. >> >> -Matthias >> >> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Jan-Kees van Andel >> <jankeesvanandel@...> wrote: >> > Looks good. >> > >> > Maybe one little thing, the prefix h5 might be more appropriate for the >> > library, even though there is also an html tag named h5. >> > hx sounds like HTML extensions to me and HTML5 is not really an >> > extension. >> > >> > Regards, >> > Jan-Kees >> > >> > 2010/3/22 Cagatay Civici <cagatay.civici@...> >> >> >> >> Looks good to me as well, Good Luck Ali! >> >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Bruno Aranda <brunoaranda@...> >> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> It looks good to me too! >> >>> Bruno >> >>> >> >>> On 22 March 2010 14:11, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@...> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> Hi Ali, >> >>>> >> >>>> this looks good to me. >> >>>> >> >>>> Any other comment ? >> >>>> >> >>>> -Matthias >> >>>> >> >>>> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 7:01 PM, Ali Ok <aliok@...> wrote: >> >>>> > Hi, >> >>>> > I've written my GSOC proposal here : >> >>>> > http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/GSoC2010_HTML5 >> >>>> > Could you review it and provide me some feedback? >> >>>> > >> >>>> > After your feedback, we'll move it to ASF GSoC wiki. >> >>>> > >> >>>> > Thanks & Regards, >> >>>> > Ali >> >>>> > >> >>>> > -- >> >>>> > My Blog: http://blog.aliok.com.tr >> >>>> > Twitter: http://twitter.com/aliok_tr >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> -- >> >>>> Matthias Wessendorf >> >>>> >> >>>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >> >>>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >> >>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Cagatay Civici >> >> JSF EG | PrimeFaces Lead | Apache MyFaces PMC >> >> http://www.primefaces.org >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Matthias Wessendorf >> >> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf > > -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf |
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Re: [GSOC] HTML5 Proposal
by Matthias Wessendorf-4
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OK,
raw JIRA ticket (based on the original email that I sent out): https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-2617 We will see where to add Ali's content, I mean where it fits best. Perhaps we just link to his Wiki page? (Not sure yet)... -Matthias On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@...> wrote: > Ah, > > interesting: > This is how tomcat does it. > > They "group" their tickets: > http://wiki.apache.org/tomcat/SummerOfCode2010 > > and point to the JIRA entries. > > > Ok, so let me move this HTML5 specifc content to a JIRA ticket. After > done, I'll create a "grouping" wiki page as well > > -Matthias > > On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Jan-Kees van Andel > <jankeesvanandel@...> wrote: >> Yeah, the rest looks very good. :) >> >> /JK >> >> >> 2010/3/22 Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@...> >>> >>> that's details, for the actual project ;-) >>> >>> BTW. I am just signing up as a mentor, after that I will bring this >>> wiki txt to our jira. >>> >>> -Matthias >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Jan-Kees van Andel >>> <jankeesvanandel@...> wrote: >>> > Looks good. >>> > >>> > Maybe one little thing, the prefix h5 might be more appropriate for the >>> > library, even though there is also an html tag named h5. >>> > hx sounds like HTML extensions to me and HTML5 is not really an >>> > extension. >>> > >>> > Regards, >>> > Jan-Kees >>> > >>> > 2010/3/22 Cagatay Civici <cagatay.civici@...> >>> >> >>> >> Looks good to me as well, Good Luck Ali! >>> >> >>> >> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Bruno Aranda <brunoaranda@...> >>> >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> It looks good to me too! >>> >>> Bruno >>> >>> >>> >>> On 22 March 2010 14:11, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@...> wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Hi Ali, >>> >>>> >>> >>>> this looks good to me. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Any other comment ? >>> >>>> >>> >>>> -Matthias >>> >>>> >>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 7:01 PM, Ali Ok <aliok@...> wrote: >>> >>>> > Hi, >>> >>>> > I've written my GSOC proposal here : >>> >>>> > http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/GSoC2010_HTML5 >>> >>>> > Could you review it and provide me some feedback? >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > After your feedback, we'll move it to ASF GSoC wiki. >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > Thanks & Regards, >>> >>>> > Ali >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > -- >>> >>>> > My Blog: http://blog.aliok.com.tr >>> >>>> > Twitter: http://twitter.com/aliok_tr >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> -- >>> >>>> Matthias Wessendorf >>> >>>> >>> >>>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >>> >>>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >>> >>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> Cagatay Civici >>> >> JSF EG | PrimeFaces Lead | Apache MyFaces PMC >>> >> http://www.primefaces.org >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Matthias Wessendorf >>> >>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >> >> > > > > -- > Matthias Wessendorf > > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf > -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf |
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Re: [GSOC] HTML5 Proposal
by Ali Ok-3
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Hi,
Thank you all for your reviews. Maybe one little thing, the prefix h5 might be more appropriate for the library, even though there is also an html tag named h5. hx sounds like HTML extensions to me and HTML5 is not really an extension. Yeah, correct. You know, no problem changing it. I am sure we can find a cool prefix later :) raw JIRA ticket (based on the original email that I sent out): Thanks :) Regards, --Ali On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 6:13 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@...> wrote: OK, -- My Blog: http://blog.aliok.com.tr Twitter: http://twitter.com/aliok_tr |
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Re: [GSOC] HTML5 Proposal
by Matthias Wessendorf-4
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One thing,
I see you you refering to this thread: http://old.nabble.com/-GSOC--HTML5-Renderkit-Start-up-td27748075.html I am not sure if that is good - folks may get the impression some work has already been done on that. -Matthias On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Ali Ok <aliok@...> wrote: > Hi, > Thank you all for your reviews. > >> Maybe one little thing, the prefix h5 might be more appropriate for the >> library, even though there is also an html tag named h5. hx sounds like HTML >> extensions to me and HTML5 is not really an extension. > > Yeah, correct. > You know, no problem changing it. I am sure we can find a cool prefix later > :) > >> raw JIRA ticket (based on the original email that I sent out): >> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-2617 >> >> We will see where to add Ali's content, I mean where it fits best. >> Perhaps we just link to his Wiki page? (Not sure yet)... > > Thanks :) > > Regards, > --Ali > > On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 6:13 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@...> > wrote: >> >> OK, >> >> raw JIRA ticket (based on the original email that I sent out): >> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-2617 >> >> We will see where to add Ali's content, I mean where it fits best. >> Perhaps we just link to his Wiki page? (Not sure yet)... >> >> -Matthias >> >> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@...> >> wrote: >> > Ah, >> > >> > interesting: >> > This is how tomcat does it. >> > >> > They "group" their tickets: >> > http://wiki.apache.org/tomcat/SummerOfCode2010 >> > >> > and point to the JIRA entries. >> > >> > >> > Ok, so let me move this HTML5 specifc content to a JIRA ticket. After >> > done, I'll create a "grouping" wiki page as well >> > >> > -Matthias >> > >> > On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Jan-Kees van Andel >> > <jankeesvanandel@...> wrote: >> >> Yeah, the rest looks very good. :) >> >> >> >> /JK >> >> >> >> >> >> 2010/3/22 Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@...> >> >>> >> >>> that's details, for the actual project ;-) >> >>> >> >>> BTW. I am just signing up as a mentor, after that I will bring this >> >>> wiki txt to our jira. >> >>> >> >>> -Matthias >> >>> >> >>> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Jan-Kees van Andel >> >>> <jankeesvanandel@...> wrote: >> >>> > Looks good. >> >>> > >> >>> > Maybe one little thing, the prefix h5 might be more appropriate for >> >>> > the >> >>> > library, even though there is also an html tag named h5. >> >>> > hx sounds like HTML extensions to me and HTML5 is not really an >> >>> > extension. >> >>> > >> >>> > Regards, >> >>> > Jan-Kees >> >>> > >> >>> > 2010/3/22 Cagatay Civici <cagatay.civici@...> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Looks good to me as well, Good Luck Ali! >> >>> >> >> >>> >> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Bruno Aranda >> >>> >> <brunoaranda@...> >> >>> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> It looks good to me too! >> >>> >>> Bruno >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> On 22 March 2010 14:11, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@...> >> >>> >>> wrote: >> >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> Hi Ali, >> >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> this looks good to me. >> >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> Any other comment ? >> >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> -Matthias >> >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 7:01 PM, Ali Ok <aliok@...> >> >>> >>>> wrote: >> >>> >>>> > Hi, >> >>> >>>> > I've written my GSOC proposal here : >> >>> >>>> > http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/GSoC2010_HTML5 >> >>> >>>> > Could you review it and provide me some feedback? >> >>> >>>> > >> >>> >>>> > After your feedback, we'll move it to ASF GSoC wiki. >> >>> >>>> > >> >>> >>>> > Thanks & Regards, >> >>> >>>> > Ali >> >>> >>>> > >> >>> >>>> > -- >> >>> >>>> > My Blog: http://blog.aliok.com.tr >> >>> >>>> > Twitter: http://twitter.com/aliok_tr >> >>> >>>> > >> >>> >>>> > >> >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> -- >> >>> >>>> Matthias Wessendorf >> >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >> >>> >>>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >> >>> >>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >> >>> >>> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> -- >> >>> >> Cagatay Civici >> >>> >> JSF EG | PrimeFaces Lead | Apache MyFaces PMC >> >>> >> http://www.primefaces.org >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Matthias Wessendorf >> >>> >> >>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >> >>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >> >>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Matthias Wessendorf >> > >> > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >> > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >> > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Matthias Wessendorf >> >> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf > > > > -- > My Blog: http://blog.aliok.com.tr > Twitter: http://twitter.com/aliok_tr > > -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf |
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Re: [GSOC] HTML5 Proposal
by Jakob Korherr
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Hi,
This all looks very fine to me - great work :) About the grouping (or "sub-tasking"): It would be cool to have a parent GSoC 2010 issue with all the GSoC projects as ("mentor" and "gsoc" labeled) sub-tasks. Furthermore it would be cool if each student would create all the things he wants to do as sub-task issues of his GSoC project issue. So we would have a hierarchy that looks like this: GSoC 2010 --HTML 5 RenderKit ----issue #1 of HTML 5 RenderKit ----issue #2 of HTML 5 RenderKit ... --GSoC project #2 ----issue #1 of GSoC project #2 ... What do you think? Regards, Jakob 2010/3/22 Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@...> One thing, |
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Re: [GSOC] HTML5 Proposal
by Ali Ok-3
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I see you you refering to this thread: I am not sure if that is good - folks may get the impression some work Removed it. On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Jakob Korherr <jakob.korherr@...> wrote: Hi, -- My Blog: http://blog.aliok.com.tr Twitter: http://twitter.com/aliok_tr |
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Re: [GSOC] HTML5 Proposal
by Martin Marinschek-3
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Hi Ali,
great that you start out with this! I am not sure, but wouldn't it be good to have some of this support already in MyFaces, the implementation? Like the required attribute - shouldn't we have our core inputs already render this attribute out, if necessary. I think this would be nice. Everything which can not be covered by our standard implementations should of course be in a new namespace, as you suggested. best regards, Martin On 3/22/10, Ali Ok <aliok@...> wrote: >> >> I see you you refering to this thread: >> http://old.nabble.com/-GSOC--HTML5-Renderkit-Start-up-td27748075.html >> > I am not sure if that is good - folks may get the impression some work >> has already been done on that. > > > You're right. > Removed it. > > > On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Jakob Korherr > <jakob.korherr@...>wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> This all looks very fine to me - great work :) >> >> About the grouping (or "sub-tasking"): It would be cool to have a parent >> GSoC 2010 issue with all the GSoC projects as ("mentor" and "gsoc" >> labeled) >> sub-tasks. Furthermore it would be cool if each student would create all >> the >> things he wants to do as sub-task issues of his GSoC project issue. So we >> would have a hierarchy that looks like this: >> >> GSoC 2010 >> --HTML 5 RenderKit >> ----issue #1 of HTML 5 RenderKit >> ----issue #2 of HTML 5 RenderKit >> ... >> --GSoC project #2 >> ----issue #1 of GSoC project #2 >> ... >> >> What do you think? >> >> Regards, >> Jakob >> >> >> >> 2010/3/22 Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@...> >> >>> One thing, >>> >>> I see you you refering to this thread: >>> http://old.nabble.com/-GSOC--HTML5-Renderkit-Start-up-td27748075.html >>> >>> I am not sure if that is good - folks may get the impression some work >>> has already been done on that. >>> >>> -Matthias >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Ali Ok <aliok@...> wrote: >>> > Hi, >>> > Thank you all for your reviews. >>> > >>> >> Maybe one little thing, the prefix h5 might be more appropriate for >>> >> the >>> >> library, even though there is also an html tag named h5. hx sounds >>> >> like >>> HTML >>> >> extensions to me and HTML5 is not really an extension. >>> > >>> > Yeah, correct. >>> > You know, no problem changing it. I am sure we can find a cool prefix >>> later >>> > :) >>> > >>> >> raw JIRA ticket (based on the original email that I sent out): >>> >> >>> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-2617 >>> >> >>> >> We will see where to add Ali's content, I mean where it fits best. >>> >> Perhaps we just link to his Wiki page? (Not sure yet)... >>> > >>> > Thanks :) >>> > >>> > Regards, >>> > --Ali >>> > >>> > On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 6:13 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@... >>> > >>> > wrote: >>> >> >>> >> OK, >>> >> >>> >> raw JIRA ticket (based on the original email that I sent out): >>> >> >>> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-2617 >>> >> >>> >> We will see where to add Ali's content, I mean where it fits best. >>> >> Perhaps we just link to his Wiki page? (Not sure yet)... >>> >> >>> >> -Matthias >>> >> >>> >> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Matthias Wessendorf < >>> matzew@...> >>> >> wrote: >>> >> > Ah, >>> >> > >>> >> > interesting: >>> >> > This is how tomcat does it. >>> >> > >>> >> > They "group" their tickets: >>> >> > http://wiki.apache.org/tomcat/SummerOfCode2010 >>> >> > >>> >> > and point to the JIRA entries. >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > Ok, so let me move this HTML5 specifc content to a JIRA ticket. >>> >> > After >>> >> > done, I'll create a "grouping" wiki page as well >>> >> > >>> >> > -Matthias >>> >> > >>> >> > On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Jan-Kees van Andel >>> >> > <jankeesvanandel@...> wrote: >>> >> >> Yeah, the rest looks very good. :) >>> >> >> >>> >> >> /JK >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> 2010/3/22 Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@...> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> that's details, for the actual project ;-) >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> BTW. I am just signing up as a mentor, after that I will bring >>> >> >>> this >>> >> >>> wiki txt to our jira. >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> -Matthias >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Jan-Kees van Andel >>> >> >>> <jankeesvanandel@...> wrote: >>> >> >>> > Looks good. >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > Maybe one little thing, the prefix h5 might be more appropriate >>> for >>> >> >>> > the >>> >> >>> > library, even though there is also an html tag named h5. >>> >> >>> > hx sounds like HTML extensions to me and HTML5 is not really an >>> >> >>> > extension. >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > Regards, >>> >> >>> > Jan-Kees >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > 2010/3/22 Cagatay Civici <cagatay.civici@...> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Looks good to me as well, Good Luck Ali! >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Bruno Aranda >>> >> >>> >> <brunoaranda@...> >>> >> >>> >> wrote: >>> >> >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> It looks good to me too! >>> >> >>> >>> Bruno >>> >> >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> On 22 March 2010 14:11, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@... >>> > >>> >> >>> >>> wrote: >>> >> >>> >>>> >>> >> >>> >>>> Hi Ali, >>> >> >>> >>>> >>> >> >>> >>>> this looks good to me. >>> >> >>> >>>> >>> >> >>> >>>> Any other comment ? >>> >> >>> >>>> >>> >> >>> >>>> -Matthias >>> >> >>> >>>> >>> >> >>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 7:01 PM, Ali Ok <aliok@...> >>> >> >>> >>>> wrote: >>> >> >>> >>>> > Hi, >>> >> >>> >>>> > I've written my GSOC proposal here : >>> >> >>> >>>> > http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/GSoC2010_HTML5 >>> >> >>> >>>> > Could you review it and provide me some feedback? >>> >> >>> >>>> > >>> >> >>> >>>> > After your feedback, we'll move it to ASF GSoC wiki. >>> >> >>> >>>> > >>> >> >>> >>>> > Thanks & Regards, >>> >> >>> >>>> > Ali >>> >> >>> >>>> > >>> >> >>> >>>> > -- >>> >> >>> >>>> > My Blog: http://blog.aliok.com.tr >>> >> >>> >>>> > Twitter: http://twitter.com/aliok_tr >>> >> >>> >>>> > >>> >> >>> >>>> > >>> >> >>> >>>> >>> >> >>> >>>> >>> >> >>> >>>> >>> >> >>> >>>> -- >>> >> >>> >>>> Matthias Wessendorf >>> >> >>> >>>> >>> >> >>> >>>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >>> >> >>> >>>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >>> >> >>> >>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >>> >> >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> >>> >> Cagatay Civici >>> >> >>> >> JSF EG | PrimeFaces Lead | Apache MyFaces PMC >>> >> >>> >> http://www.primefaces.org >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> -- >>> >> >>> Matthias Wessendorf >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >>> >> >>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >>> >> >>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > -- >>> >> > Matthias Wessendorf >>> >> > >>> >> > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >>> >> > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >>> >> > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> Matthias Wessendorf >>> >> >>> >> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >>> >> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >>> >> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > My Blog: http://blog.aliok.com.tr >>> > Twitter: http://twitter.com/aliok_tr >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Matthias Wessendorf >>> >>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >>> >> >> > > > -- > My Blog: http://blog.aliok.com.tr > Twitter: http://twitter.com/aliok_tr > -- http://www.irian.at Your JSF powerhouse - JSF Consulting, Development and Courses in English and German Professional Support for Apache MyFaces |
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Re: [GSOC] HTML5 Proposal
by Matthias Wessendorf-4
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On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 4:30 AM, Martin Marinschek
<mmarinschek@...> wrote: > Hi Ali, > > great that you start out with this! > > I am not sure, but wouldn't it be good to have some of this support > already in MyFaces, the implementation? Like the required attribute - > shouldn't we have our core inputs already render this attribute out, > if necessary. not sure if the TCK does some HTML parsing > I think this would be nice. Everything which can not be > covered by our standard implementations should of course be in a new > namespace, as you suggested. IMO it's fine to "merge" stuff during/after GSOC. or do you think this should be directly done on the IMPL, if possible. > > best regards, > > Martin > > On 3/22/10, Ali Ok <aliok@...> wrote: >>> >>> I see you you refering to this thread: >>> http://old.nabble.com/-GSOC--HTML5-Renderkit-Start-up-td27748075.html >>> >> I am not sure if that is good - folks may get the impression some work >>> has already been done on that. >> >> >> You're right. >> Removed it. >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Jakob Korherr >> <jakob.korherr@...>wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> This all looks very fine to me - great work :) >>> >>> About the grouping (or "sub-tasking"): It would be cool to have a parent >>> GSoC 2010 issue with all the GSoC projects as ("mentor" and "gsoc" >>> labeled) >>> sub-tasks. Furthermore it would be cool if each student would create all >>> the >>> things he wants to do as sub-task issues of his GSoC project issue. So we >>> would have a hierarchy that looks like this: >>> >>> GSoC 2010 >>> --HTML 5 RenderKit >>> ----issue #1 of HTML 5 RenderKit >>> ----issue #2 of HTML 5 RenderKit >>> ... >>> --GSoC project #2 >>> ----issue #1 of GSoC project #2 >>> ... >>> >>> What do you think? >>> >>> Regards, >>> Jakob >>> >>> >>> >>> 2010/3/22 Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@...> >>> >>>> One thing, >>>> >>>> I see you you refering to this thread: >>>> http://old.nabble.com/-GSOC--HTML5-Renderkit-Start-up-td27748075.html >>>> >>>> I am not sure if that is good - folks may get the impression some work >>>> has already been done on that. >>>> >>>> -Matthias >>>> >>>> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Ali Ok <aliok@...> wrote: >>>> > Hi, >>>> > Thank you all for your reviews. >>>> > >>>> >> Maybe one little thing, the prefix h5 might be more appropriate for >>>> >> the >>>> >> library, even though there is also an html tag named h5. hx sounds >>>> >> like >>>> HTML >>>> >> extensions to me and HTML5 is not really an extension. >>>> > >>>> > Yeah, correct. >>>> > You know, no problem changing it. I am sure we can find a cool prefix >>>> later >>>> > :) >>>> > >>>> >> raw JIRA ticket (based on the original email that I sent out): >>>> >> >>>> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-2617 >>>> >> >>>> >> We will see where to add Ali's content, I mean where it fits best. >>>> >> Perhaps we just link to his Wiki page? (Not sure yet)... >>>> > >>>> > Thanks :) >>>> > >>>> > Regards, >>>> > --Ali >>>> > >>>> > On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 6:13 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@... >>>> > >>>> > wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> OK, >>>> >> >>>> >> raw JIRA ticket (based on the original email that I sent out): >>>> >> >>>> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-2617 >>>> >> >>>> >> We will see where to add Ali's content, I mean where it fits best. >>>> >> Perhaps we just link to his Wiki page? (Not sure yet)... >>>> >> >>>> >> -Matthias >>>> >> >>>> >> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Matthias Wessendorf < >>>> matzew@...> >>>> >> wrote: >>>> >> > Ah, >>>> >> > >>>> >> > interesting: >>>> >> > This is how tomcat does it. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > They "group" their tickets: >>>> >> > http://wiki.apache.org/tomcat/SummerOfCode2010 >>>> >> > >>>> >> > and point to the JIRA entries. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Ok, so let me move this HTML5 specifc content to a JIRA ticket. >>>> >> > After >>>> >> > done, I'll create a "grouping" wiki page as well >>>> >> > >>>> >> > -Matthias >>>> >> > >>>> >> > On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Jan-Kees van Andel >>>> >> > <jankeesvanandel@...> wrote: >>>> >> >> Yeah, the rest looks very good. :) >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> /JK >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> 2010/3/22 Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@...> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> that's details, for the actual project ;-) >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> BTW. I am just signing up as a mentor, after that I will bring >>>> >> >>> this >>>> >> >>> wiki txt to our jira. >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> -Matthias >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Jan-Kees van Andel >>>> >> >>> <jankeesvanandel@...> wrote: >>>> >> >>> > Looks good. >>>> >> >>> > >>>> >> >>> > Maybe one little thing, the prefix h5 might be more appropriate >>>> for >>>> >> >>> > the >>>> >> >>> > library, even though there is also an html tag named h5. >>>> >> >>> > hx sounds like HTML extensions to me and HTML5 is not really an >>>> >> >>> > extension. >>>> >> >>> > >>>> >> >>> > Regards, >>>> >> >>> > Jan-Kees >>>> >> >>> > >>>> >> >>> > 2010/3/22 Cagatay Civici <cagatay.civici@...> >>>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> Looks good to me as well, Good Luck Ali! >>>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Bruno Aranda >>>> >> >>> >> <brunoaranda@...> >>>> >> >>> >> wrote: >>>> >> >>> >>> >>>> >> >>> >>> It looks good to me too! >>>> >> >>> >>> Bruno >>>> >> >>> >>> >>>> >> >>> >>> On 22 March 2010 14:11, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@... >>>> > >>>> >> >>> >>> wrote: >>>> >> >>> >>>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> Hi Ali, >>>> >> >>> >>>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> this looks good to me. >>>> >> >>> >>>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> Any other comment ? >>>> >> >>> >>>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> -Matthias >>>> >> >>> >>>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 7:01 PM, Ali Ok <aliok@...> >>>> >> >>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >> >>> >>>> > Hi, >>>> >> >>> >>>> > I've written my GSOC proposal here : >>>> >> >>> >>>> > http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/GSoC2010_HTML5 >>>> >> >>> >>>> > Could you review it and provide me some feedback? >>>> >> >>> >>>> > >>>> >> >>> >>>> > After your feedback, we'll move it to ASF GSoC wiki. >>>> >> >>> >>>> > >>>> >> >>> >>>> > Thanks & Regards, >>>> >> >>> >>>> > Ali >>>> >> >>> >>>> > >>>> >> >>> >>>> > -- >>>> >> >>> >>>> > My Blog: http://blog.aliok.com.tr >>>> >> >>> >>>> > Twitter: http://twitter.com/aliok_tr >>>> >> >>> >>>> > >>>> >> >>> >>>> > >>>> >> >>> >>>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> -- >>>> >> >>> >>>> Matthias Wessendorf >>>> >> >>> >>>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >>>> >> >>> >>>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >>>> >> >>> >>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >>>> >> >>> >>> >>>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> -- >>>> >> >>> >> Cagatay Civici >>>> >> >>> >> JSF EG | PrimeFaces Lead | Apache MyFaces PMC >>>> >> >>> >> http://www.primefaces.org >>>> >> >>> > >>>> >> >>> > >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> -- >>>> >> >>> Matthias Wessendorf >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >>>> >> >>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >>>> >> >>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > -- >>>> >> > Matthias Wessendorf >>>> >> > >>>> >> > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >>>> >> > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >>>> >> > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >>>> >> > >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> -- >>>> >> Matthias Wessendorf >>>> >> >>>> >> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >>>> >> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >>>> >> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > My Blog: http://blog.aliok.com.tr >>>> > Twitter: http://twitter.com/aliok_tr >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Matthias Wessendorf >>>> >>>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >>>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> My Blog: http://blog.aliok.com.tr >> Twitter: http://twitter.com/aliok_tr >> > > > -- > > http://www.irian.at > > Your JSF powerhouse - > JSF Consulting, Development and > Courses in English and German > > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces > -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf |
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Re: [GSOC] HTML5 Proposal
by Jakob Korherr
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I like Martin's idea.
If it would make some parts of the TCK fail, we could introduce a HTML5 config parameter to make the HTML5 features work. Of course, this has to be turned off by default in order to make the TCK work. Regards, Jakob 2010/3/23 Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@...>
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Re: [GSOC] HTML5 Proposal
by Martin Marinschek
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> If it would make some parts of the TCK fail, we could introduce a HTML5
> config parameter to make the HTML5 features work. Of course, this has to be > turned off by default in order to make the TCK work. +1 @Matthias: why not do it right in the first place? I think the merging effort would be pretty labour intensive, and while Ali is at it, I am sure he is happy to contribute to MyFaces core as well ;) best regards, Martin > Regards, > Jakob > > 2010/3/23 Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@...> >> >> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 4:30 AM, Martin Marinschek >> <mmarinschek@...> wrote: >> > Hi Ali, >> > >> > great that you start out with this! >> > >> > I am not sure, but wouldn't it be good to have some of this support >> > already in MyFaces, the implementation? Like the required attribute - >> > shouldn't we have our core inputs already render this attribute out, >> > if necessary. >> >> not sure if the TCK does some HTML parsing >> >> > I think this would be nice. Everything which can not be >> > covered by our standard implementations should of course be in a new >> > namespace, as you suggested. >> >> IMO it's fine to "merge" stuff during/after GSOC. or do you think this >> should be directly done on the IMPL, if possible. >> >> > >> > best regards, >> > >> > Martin >> > >> > On 3/22/10, Ali Ok <aliok@...> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> I see you you refering to this thread: >> >>> http://old.nabble.com/-GSOC--HTML5-Renderkit-Start-up-td27748075.html >> >>> >> >> I am not sure if that is good - folks may get the impression some work >> >>> has already been done on that. >> >> >> >> >> >> You're right. >> >> Removed it. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Jakob Korherr >> >> <jakob.korherr@...>wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hi, >> >>> >> >>> This all looks very fine to me - great work :) >> >>> >> >>> About the grouping (or "sub-tasking"): It would be cool to have a >> >>> parent >> >>> GSoC 2010 issue with all the GSoC projects as ("mentor" and "gsoc" >> >>> labeled) >> >>> sub-tasks. Furthermore it would be cool if each student would create >> >>> all >> >>> the >> >>> things he wants to do as sub-task issues of his GSoC project issue. So >> >>> we >> >>> would have a hierarchy that looks like this: >> >>> >> >>> GSoC 2010 >> >>> --HTML 5 RenderKit >> >>> ----issue #1 of HTML 5 RenderKit >> >>> ----issue #2 of HTML 5 RenderKit >> >>> ... >> >>> --GSoC project #2 >> >>> ----issue #1 of GSoC project #2 >> >>> ... >> >>> >> >>> What do you think? >> >>> >> >>> Regards, >> >>> Jakob >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> 2010/3/22 Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@...> >> >>> >> >>>> One thing, >> >>>> >> >>>> I see you you refering to this thread: >> >>>> http://old.nabble.com/-GSOC--HTML5-Renderkit-Start-up-td27748075.html >> >>>> >> >>>> I am not sure if that is good - folks may get the impression some >> >>>> work >> >>>> has already been done on that. >> >>>> >> >>>> -Matthias >> >>>> >> >>>> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Ali Ok <aliok@...> wrote: >> >>>> > Hi, >> >>>> > Thank you all for your reviews. >> >>>> > >> >>>> >> Maybe one little thing, the prefix h5 might be more appropriate >> >>>> >> for >> >>>> >> the >> >>>> >> library, even though there is also an html tag named h5. hx sounds >> >>>> >> like >> >>>> HTML >> >>>> >> extensions to me and HTML5 is not really an extension. >> >>>> > >> >>>> > Yeah, correct. >> >>>> > You know, no problem changing it. I am sure we can find a cool >> >>>> > prefix >> >>>> later >> >>>> > :) >> >>>> > >> >>>> >> raw JIRA ticket (based on the original email that I sent out): >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-2617 >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> We will see where to add Ali's content, I mean where it fits best. >> >>>> >> Perhaps we just link to his Wiki page? (Not sure yet)... >> >>>> > >> >>>> > Thanks :) >> >>>> > >> >>>> > Regards, >> >>>> > --Ali >> >>>> > >> >>>> > On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 6:13 PM, Matthias Wessendorf >> >>>> > <matzew@... >> >>>> > >> >>>> > wrote: >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> OK, >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> raw JIRA ticket (based on the original email that I sent out): >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-2617 >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> We will see where to add Ali's content, I mean where it fits best. >> >>>> >> Perhaps we just link to his Wiki page? (Not sure yet)... >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> -Matthias >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Matthias Wessendorf < >> >>>> matzew@...> >> >>>> >> wrote: >> >>>> >> > Ah, >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> > interesting: >> >>>> >> > This is how tomcat does it. >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> > They "group" their tickets: >> >>>> >> > http://wiki.apache.org/tomcat/SummerOfCode2010 >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> > and point to the JIRA entries. >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> > Ok, so let me move this HTML5 specifc content to a JIRA ticket. >> >>>> >> > After >> >>>> >> > done, I'll create a "grouping" wiki page as well >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> > -Matthias >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> > On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Jan-Kees van Andel >> >>>> >> > <jankeesvanandel@...> wrote: >> >>>> >> >> Yeah, the rest looks very good. :) >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> /JK >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> 2010/3/22 Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@...> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> that's details, for the actual project ;-) >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> BTW. I am just signing up as a mentor, after that I will bring >> >>>> >> >>> this >> >>>> >> >>> wiki txt to our jira. >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> -Matthias >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Jan-Kees van Andel >> >>>> >> >>> <jankeesvanandel@...> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>> > Looks good. >> >>>> >> >>> > >> >>>> >> >>> > Maybe one little thing, the prefix h5 might be more >> >>>> >> >>> > appropriate >> >>>> for >> >>>> >> >>> > the >> >>>> >> >>> > library, even though there is also an html tag named h5. >> >>>> >> >>> > hx sounds like HTML extensions to me and HTML5 is not really >> >>>> >> >>> > an >> >>>> >> >>> > extension. >> >>>> >> >>> > >> >>>> >> >>> > Regards, >> >>>> >> >>> > Jan-Kees >> >>>> >> >>> > >> >>>> >> >>> > 2010/3/22 Cagatay Civici <cagatay.civici@...> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> >> Looks good to me as well, Good Luck Ali! >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> >> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Bruno Aranda >> >>>> >> >>> >> <brunoaranda@...> >> >>>> >> >>> >> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> >>> It looks good to me too! >> >>>> >> >>> >>> Bruno >> >>>> >> >>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> >>> On 22 March 2010 14:11, Matthias Wessendorf >> >>>> >> >>> >>> <matzew@... >> >>>> > >> >>>> >> >>> >>> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >>>> Hi Ali, >> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >>>> this looks good to me. >> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >>>> Any other comment ? >> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >>>> -Matthias >> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 7:01 PM, Ali Ok >> >>>> >> >>> >>>> <aliok@...> >> >>>> >> >>> >>>> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>> >>>> > Hi, >> >>>> >> >>> >>>> > I've written my GSOC proposal here : >> >>>> >> >>> >>>> > http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/GSoC2010_HTML5 >> >>>> >> >>> >>>> > Could you review it and provide me some feedback? >> >>>> >> >>> >>>> > >> >>>> >> >>> >>>> > After your feedback, we'll move it to ASF GSoC wiki. >> >>>> >> >>> >>>> > >> >>>> >> >>> >>>> > Thanks & Regards, >> >>>> >> >>> >>>> > Ali >> >>>> >> >>> >>>> > >> >>>> >> >>> >>>> > -- >> >>>> >> >>> >>>> > My Blog: http://blog.aliok.com.tr >> >>>> >> >>> >>>> > Twitter: http://twitter.com/aliok_tr >> >>>> >> >>> >>>> > >> >>>> >> >>> >>>> > >> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >>>> -- >> >>>> >> >>> >>>> Matthias Wessendorf >> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >>>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >> >>>> >> >>> >>>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >> >>>> >> >>> >>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >> >>>> >> >>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> >> -- >> >>>> >> >>> >> Cagatay Civici >> >>>> >> >>> >> JSF EG | PrimeFaces Lead | Apache MyFaces PMC >> >>>> >> >>> >> http://www.primefaces.org >> >>>> >> >>> > >> >>>> >> >>> > >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> -- >> >>>> >> >>> Matthias Wessendorf >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >> >>>> >> >>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >> >>>> >> >>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> > -- >> >>>> >> > Matthias Wessendorf >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >> >>>> >> > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >> >>>> >> > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> -- >> >>>> >> Matthias Wessendorf >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >> >>>> >> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >> >>>> >> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > -- >> >>>> > My Blog: http://blog.aliok.com.tr >> >>>> > Twitter: http://twitter.com/aliok_tr >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> -- >> >>>> Matthias Wessendorf >> >>>> >> >>>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >> >>>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >> >>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> My Blog: http://blog.aliok.com.tr >> >> Twitter: http://twitter.com/aliok_tr >> >> >> > >> > >> > -- >> > >> > http://www.irian.at >> > >> > Your JSF powerhouse - >> > JSF Consulting, Development and >> > Courses in English and German >> > >> > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Matthias Wessendorf >> >> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf > > -- http://www.irian.at Your JSF powerhouse - JSF Consulting, Development and Courses in English and German Professional Support for Apache MyFaces |
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Re: [GSOC] HTML5 Proposal
by Ali Ok-3
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Hi Martin,
Thanks for your feedback. About this issue, let's talk on some new HTML5 element attributes with two different JSF-side cases:
Required: We can totally render HTML5 "required" attribute if <h:inputText required="true">. IMHO, we can do this by
Or, we can do this by using an optional HTML5 context parameter, as Jakob said. Another thing: there are very few new features that can be applied to current components without breaking the spec. May be the only one which fits in the discussed case is "required". IMO it's fine to "merge" stuff during/after GSOC.Yeah, I think so. Thanks, On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Jakob Korherr <jakob.korherr@...> wrote: I like Martin's idea. -- My Blog: http://blog.aliok.com.tr Twitter: http://twitter.com/aliok_tr |
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Re: [GSOC] HTML5 Proposal
by Ali Ok-3
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Yeah, I would be happy to contribute to core too :)
But, I couldn't get how to add support for core clear in my head. Matthias, as my mentor, what do you think about the possibility and the required effort? On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Martin Marinschek <martin.marinschek@...> wrote:
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Re: [GSOC] HTML5 Proposal
by Matthias Wessendorf-4
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On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 6:30 AM, Martin Marinschek
<martin.marinschek@...> wrote: >> If it would make some parts of the TCK fail, we could introduce a HTML5 >> config parameter to make the HTML5 features work. Of course, this has to be >> turned off by default in order to make the TCK work. We already have some extensions in myfaces, so yes - why not. > > +1 > > @Matthias: why not do it right in the first place? I think the merging > effort would be pretty labour intensive, and while Ali is at it, I am > sure he is happy to contribute to MyFaces core as well ;) yes, that's up to Ali :-) But generally yes, why not. > > best regards, > > Martin > > >> Regards, >> Jakob >> >> 2010/3/23 Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@...> >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 4:30 AM, Martin Marinschek >>> <mmarinschek@...> wrote: >>> > Hi Ali, >>> > >>> > great that you start out with this! >>> > >>> > I am not sure, but wouldn't it be good to have some of this support >>> > already in MyFaces, the implementation? Like the required attribute - >>> > shouldn't we have our core inputs already render this attribute out, >>> > if necessary. >>> >>> not sure if the TCK does some HTML parsing >>> >>> > I think this would be nice. Everything which can not be >>> > covered by our standard implementations should of course be in a new >>> > namespace, as you suggested. >>> >>> IMO it's fine to "merge" stuff during/after GSOC. or do you think this >>> should be directly done on the IMPL, if possible. >>> >>> > >>> > best regards, >>> > >>> > Martin >>> > >>> > On 3/22/10, Ali Ok <aliok@...> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> I see you you refering to this thread: >>> >>> http://old.nabble.com/-GSOC--HTML5-Renderkit-Start-up-td27748075.html >>> >>> >>> >> I am not sure if that is good - folks may get the impression some work >>> >>> has already been done on that. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> You're right. >>> >> Removed it. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Jakob Korherr >>> >> <jakob.korherr@...>wrote: >>> >> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> >>> >>> This all looks very fine to me - great work :) >>> >>> >>> >>> About the grouping (or "sub-tasking"): It would be cool to have a >>> >>> parent >>> >>> GSoC 2010 issue with all the GSoC projects as ("mentor" and "gsoc" >>> >>> labeled) >>> >>> sub-tasks. Furthermore it would be cool if each student would create >>> >>> all >>> >>> the >>> >>> things he wants to do as sub-task issues of his GSoC project issue. So >>> >>> we >>> >>> would have a hierarchy that looks like this: >>> >>> >>> >>> GSoC 2010 >>> >>> --HTML 5 RenderKit >>> >>> ----issue #1 of HTML 5 RenderKit >>> >>> ----issue #2 of HTML 5 RenderKit >>> >>> ... >>> >>> --GSoC project #2 >>> >>> ----issue #1 of GSoC project #2 >>> >>> ... >>> >>> >>> >>> What do you think? >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Jakob >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> 2010/3/22 Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@...> >>> >>> >>> >>>> One thing, >>> >>>> >>> >>>> I see you you refering to this thread: >>> >>>> http://old.nabble.com/-GSOC--HTML5-Renderkit-Start-up-td27748075.html >>> >>>> >>> >>>> I am not sure if that is good - folks may get the impression some >>> >>>> work >>> >>>> has already been done on that. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> -Matthias >>> >>>> >>> >>>> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Ali Ok <aliok@...> wrote: >>> >>>> > Hi, >>> >>>> > Thank you all for your reviews. >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> >> Maybe one little thing, the prefix h5 might be more appropriate >>> >>>> >> for >>> >>>> >> the >>> >>>> >> library, even though there is also an html tag named h5. hx sounds >>> >>>> >> like >>> >>>> HTML >>> >>>> >> extensions to me and HTML5 is not really an extension. >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > Yeah, correct. >>> >>>> > You know, no problem changing it. I am sure we can find a cool >>> >>>> > prefix >>> >>>> later >>> >>>> > :) >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> >> raw JIRA ticket (based on the original email that I sent out): >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-2617 >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> We will see where to add Ali's content, I mean where it fits best. >>> >>>> >> Perhaps we just link to his Wiki page? (Not sure yet)... >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > Thanks :) >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > Regards, >>> >>>> > --Ali >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 6:13 PM, Matthias Wessendorf >>> >>>> > <matzew@... >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > wrote: >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> OK, >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> raw JIRA ticket (based on the original email that I sent out): >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-2617 >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> We will see where to add Ali's content, I mean where it fits best. >>> >>>> >> Perhaps we just link to his Wiki page? (Not sure yet)... >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> -Matthias >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Matthias Wessendorf < >>> >>>> matzew@...> >>> >>>> >> wrote: >>> >>>> >> > Ah, >>> >>>> >> > >>> >>>> >> > interesting: >>> >>>> >> > This is how tomcat does it. >>> >>>> >> > >>> >>>> >> > They "group" their tickets: >>> >>>> >> > http://wiki.apache.org/tomcat/SummerOfCode2010 >>> >>>> >> > >>> >>>> >> > and point to the JIRA entries. >>> >>>> >> > >>> >>>> >> > >>> >>>> >> > Ok, so let me move this HTML5 specifc content to a JIRA ticket. >>> >>>> >> > After >>> >>>> >> > done, I'll create a "grouping" wiki page as well >>> >>>> >> > >>> >>>> >> > -Matthias >>> >>>> >> > >>> >>>> >> > On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Jan-Kees van Andel >>> >>>> >> > <jankeesvanandel@...> wrote: >>> >>>> >> >> Yeah, the rest looks very good. :) >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> /JK >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> 2010/3/22 Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@...> >>> >>>> >> >>> >>> >>>> >> >>> that's details, for the actual project ;-) >>> >>>> >> >>> >>> >>>> >> >>> BTW. I am just signing up as a mentor, after that I will bring >>> >>>> >> >>> this >>> >>>> >> >>> wiki txt to our jira. >>> >>>> >> >>> >>> >>>> >> >>> -Matthias >>> >>>> >> >>> >>> >>>> >> >>> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Jan-Kees van Andel >>> >>>> >> >>> <jankeesvanandel@...> wrote: >>> >>>> >> >>> > Looks good. >>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> >>>> >> >>> > Maybe one little thing, the prefix h5 might be more >>> >>>> >> >>> > appropriate >>> >>>> for >>> >>>> >> >>> > the >>> >>>> >> >>> > library, even though there is also an html tag named h5. >>> >>>> >> >>> > hx sounds like HTML extensions to me and HTML5 is not really >>> >>>> >> >>> > an >>> >>>> >> >>> > extension. >>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> >>>> >> >>> > Regards, >>> >>>> >> >>> > Jan-Kees >>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> >>>> >> >>> > 2010/3/22 Cagatay Civici <cagatay.civici@...> >>> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> >> Looks good to me as well, Good Luck Ali! >>> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> >> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Bruno Aranda >>> >>>> >> >>> >> <brunoaranda@...> >>> >>>> >> >>> >> wrote: >>> >>>> >> >>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >>> >>> It looks good to me too! >>> >>>> >> >>> >>> Bruno >>> >>>> >> >>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >>> >>> On 22 March 2010 14:11, Matthias Wessendorf >>> >>>> >> >>> >>> <matzew@... >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> >> >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> Hi Ali, >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> this looks good to me. >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> Any other comment ? >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> -Matthias >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 7:01 PM, Ali Ok >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> <aliok@...> >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> wrote: >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> > Hi, >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> > I've written my GSOC proposal here : >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> > http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/GSoC2010_HTML5 >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> > Could you review it and provide me some feedback? >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> > After your feedback, we'll move it to ASF GSoC wiki. >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> > Thanks & Regards, >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> > Ali >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> > -- >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> > My Blog: http://blog.aliok.com.tr >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> > Twitter: http://twitter.com/aliok_tr >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> -- >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> Matthias Wessendorf >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >>> >>>> >> >>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >>>> >> >>> >> Cagatay Civici >>> >>>> >> >>> >> JSF EG | PrimeFaces Lead | Apache MyFaces PMC >>> >>>> >> >>> >> http://www.primefaces.org >>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> >>>> >> >>> >>> >>>> >> >>> >>> >>>> >> >>> >>> >>>> >> >>> -- >>> >>>> >> >>> Matthias Wessendorf >>> >>>> >> >>> >>> >>>> >> >>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >>> >>>> >> >>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >>> >>>> >> >>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >>>> >> > >>> >>>> >> > >>> >>>> >> > >>> >>>> >> > -- >>> >>>> >> > Matthias Wessendorf >>> >>>> >> > >>> >>>> >> > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >>> >>>> >> > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >>> >>>> >> > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >>> >>>> >> > >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> -- >>> >>>> >> Matthias Wessendorf >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >>> >>>> >> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >>> >>>> >> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > -- >>> >>>> > My Blog: http://blog.aliok.com.tr >>> >>>> > Twitter: http://twitter.com/aliok_tr >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> -- >>> >>>> Matthias Wessendorf >>> >>>> >>> >>>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >>> >>>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >>> >>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> My Blog: http://blog.aliok.com.tr >>> >> Twitter: http://twitter.com/aliok_tr >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > >>> > http://www.irian.at >>> > >>> > Your JSF powerhouse - >>> > JSF Consulting, Development and >>> > Courses in English and German >>> > >>> > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Matthias Wessendorf >>> >>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >> >> > > > > -- > > http://www.irian.at > > Your JSF powerhouse - > JSF Consulting, Development and > Courses in English and German > > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces > -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf |
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