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[GSoc] Google Summer of Code Idea
by Matthias Wessendorf-4
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Hi guys,
running into this document: http://diveintohtml5.org/forms.html I started playing with some of the new widgets in my Chromium browser (I wasn't aware that spinbox/sliders are part of HTML5). What about trying to find someone for a GSoC project, to add a (raw) HTML 5 renderkit? Bernd and I talked about a potential renderkit last time we saw each other, but now there is actually some (raw) support on it inside of some browsers... Why not introducing an <hx:***> namespace that could contain stuff as the following: -<hx:inputRangeSlider> -<hx:inputColor> -<hx:whatEverNewWidgetIsPartOfHTML5 /> And/or some more functional stuff, like drag-and-drop: -<fx:dragAndDrop...> (could be done as a behavior) etc. What do folks think about that? -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf |
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Re: [GSoc] Google Summer of Code Idea
by Matthias Wessendorf-4
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as the mentioned behavior support already said, I'd like to see this
ONLY for JSF2.0 (MyFaces 2.0) -Matze On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@...> wrote: > Hi guys, > > running into this document: > http://diveintohtml5.org/forms.html > > I started playing with some of the new widgets in my Chromium browser > (I wasn't aware that spinbox/sliders are part of > HTML5). > > What about trying to find someone for a GSoC project, to add a (raw) > HTML 5 renderkit? Bernd and I talked about > a potential renderkit last time we saw each other, but now there is > actually some (raw) support on it inside of some > browsers... > > Why not introducing an <hx:***> namespace that could contain stuff as > the following: > -<hx:inputRangeSlider> > -<hx:inputColor> > -<hx:whatEverNewWidgetIsPartOfHTML5 /> > > And/or some more functional stuff, like drag-and-drop: > -<fx:dragAndDrop...> (could be done as a behavior) > > etc. > > What do folks think about that? > > -- > Matthias Wessendorf > > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf > -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf |
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Re: [GSoc] Google Summer of Code Idea
by Michael Kurz
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Sounds like a very good idea to me. I guess html 5 will gain in
importance in the not so far future. regards Michael Matthias Wessendorf schrieb: > Hi guys, > > running into this document: > http://diveintohtml5.org/forms.html > > I started playing with some of the new widgets in my Chromium browser > (I wasn't aware that spinbox/sliders are part of > HTML5). > > What about trying to find someone for a GSoC project, to add a (raw) > HTML 5 renderkit? Bernd and I talked about > a potential renderkit last time we saw each other, but now there is > actually some (raw) support on it inside of some > browsers... > > Why not introducing an <hx:***> namespace that could contain stuff as > the following: > -<hx:inputRangeSlider> > -<hx:inputColor> > -<hx:whatEverNewWidgetIsPartOfHTML5 /> > > And/or some more functional stuff, like drag-and-drop: > -<fx:dragAndDrop...> (could be done as a behavior) > > etc. > > What do folks think about that? > |
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Re: [GSoc] Google Summer of Code Idea
by Jakob Korherr
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That's a really, really good idea, Matthias!
And I also think that it should be for MyFaces 2.0 only. Regards, Jakob 2010/1/6 Michael Kurz <michi.kurz@...> Sounds like a very good idea to me. I guess html 5 will gain in importance in the not so far future. |
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Re: [GSoc] Google Summer of Code Idea
by Cédric Durmont
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Excuse me to sneak in the conversation, but may I suggest that this
html5 renderkit could be an opportunity to write a "table-less" renderkit, relying more on CSS ? I think this could lead to lighter html pages (with the default renderkit, you quickly end up with 5-10 nested tables without doing anything special) and easier/more flexible skinning... 2010/1/6 Jakob Korherr <jakob.korherr@...>: > That's a really, really good idea, Matthias! > And I also think that it should be for MyFaces 2.0 only. > > Regards, > Jakob > > 2010/1/6 Michael Kurz <michi.kurz@...> >> >> Sounds like a very good idea to me. I guess html 5 will gain in importance >> in the not so far future. >> >> regards >> Michael >> >> Matthias Wessendorf schrieb: >>> >>> Hi guys, >>> >>> running into this document: >>> http://diveintohtml5.org/forms.html >>> >>> I started playing with some of the new widgets in my Chromium browser >>> (I wasn't aware that spinbox/sliders are part of >>> HTML5). >>> >>> What about trying to find someone for a GSoC project, to add a (raw) >>> HTML 5 renderkit? Bernd and I talked about >>> a potential renderkit last time we saw each other, but now there is >>> actually some (raw) support on it inside of some >>> browsers... >>> >>> Why not introducing an <hx:***> namespace that could contain stuff as >>> the following: >>> -<hx:inputRangeSlider> >>> -<hx:inputColor> >>> -<hx:whatEverNewWidgetIsPartOfHTML5 /> >>> >>> And/or some more functional stuff, like drag-and-drop: >>> -<fx:dragAndDrop...> (could be done as a behavior) >>> >>> etc. >>> >>> What do folks think about that? >>> >> > > |
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Re: [GSoc] Google Summer of Code Idea
by Jakob Korherr
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A more div-related layout would be _REALLY_ great. Maybe we can do this in tomahawk 2.0.
2010/1/6 Cédric Durmont <cdurmont@...> Excuse me to sneak in the conversation, but may I suggest that this |
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Re: [GSoc] Google Summer of Code Idea
by Jan-Kees van Andel
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+1 on the HTML 5 RenderKit.
Yeah, and maybe ditch (or at least provide a more semantic) panelGrid, for example, with a parameter to customize the HTML: dl+dd+dt, div, table, ul/ol... Especially when writing interactive apps with (slide) effects, I always had a lot of issues with table-based forms... About MyFaces 2.0: If someone manages to create a 1.2 compatible HTML 5 RenderKit, I don't have a problem with that (don't think it's easy though)... /JK 2010/1/6 Jakob Korherr <jakob.korherr@...>: > A more div-related layout would be _REALLY_ great. Maybe we can do this in > tomahawk 2.0. > > > 2010/1/6 Cédric Durmont <cdurmont@...> >> >> Excuse me to sneak in the conversation, but may I suggest that this >> html5 renderkit could be an opportunity to write a "table-less" >> renderkit, relying more on CSS ? I think this could lead to lighter >> html pages (with the default renderkit, you quickly end up with 5-10 >> nested tables without doing anything special) and easier/more flexible >> skinning... >> >> >> >> 2010/1/6 Jakob Korherr <jakob.korherr@...>: >> > That's a really, really good idea, Matthias! >> > And I also think that it should be for MyFaces 2.0 only. >> > >> > Regards, >> > Jakob >> > >> > 2010/1/6 Michael Kurz <michi.kurz@...> >> >> >> >> Sounds like a very good idea to me. I guess html 5 will gain in >> >> importance >> >> in the not so far future. >> >> >> >> regards >> >> Michael >> >> >> >> Matthias Wessendorf schrieb: >> >>> >> >>> Hi guys, >> >>> >> >>> running into this document: >> >>> http://diveintohtml5.org/forms.html >> >>> >> >>> I started playing with some of the new widgets in my Chromium browser >> >>> (I wasn't aware that spinbox/sliders are part of >> >>> HTML5). >> >>> >> >>> What about trying to find someone for a GSoC project, to add a (raw) >> >>> HTML 5 renderkit? Bernd and I talked about >> >>> a potential renderkit last time we saw each other, but now there is >> >>> actually some (raw) support on it inside of some >> >>> browsers... >> >>> >> >>> Why not introducing an <hx:***> namespace that could contain stuff as >> >>> the following: >> >>> -<hx:inputRangeSlider> >> >>> -<hx:inputColor> >> >>> -<hx:whatEverNewWidgetIsPartOfHTML5 /> >> >>> >> >>> And/or some more functional stuff, like drag-and-drop: >> >>> -<fx:dragAndDrop...> (could be done as a behavior) >> >>> >> >>> etc. >> >>> >> >>> What do folks think about that? >> >>> >> >> >> > >> > > > |
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Re: [GSoc] Google Summer of Code Idea
by Gerhard Petracek
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regards, gerhard http://www.irian.at Your JSF powerhouse - JSF Consulting, Development and Courses in English and German Professional Support for Apache MyFaces 2010/1/6 Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@...> as the mentioned behavior support already said, I'd like to see this |
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Re: [GSoc] Google Summer of Code Idea
by Ali Ok-3
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Hi all,
I sent a couple of mails about "MyFaces on Google App Engine" GSOC proposal. But after some progress and a conversation with Matthias, I realized that it is too small for GSOC. And I am willing to implement HTML5 Renderkit. Meanwhile, I will work on GAE support in parallel. I will post my patch to JIRA after some -more- tests. Regards, Ali On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 11:52 PM, Gerhard Petracek <gerhard.petracek@...> wrote: +1 |
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Re: [GSoc] Google Summer of Code Idea
by Bruno Aranda
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+1
2010/1/20 Ali Ok <aliok@...> Hi all, |
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Re: [GSoc] Google Summer of Code Idea
by Matthias Wessendorf-4
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On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Ali Ok <aliok@...> wrote:
> Hi all, > I sent a couple of mails about "MyFaces on Google App Engine" GSOC proposal. > But after some progress and a conversation with Matthias, I realized that it > is too small for GSOC. > > And I am willing to implement HTML5 Renderkit. sounds good to me. > > Meanwhile, I will work on GAE support in parallel. I will post my patch to > JIRA after some -more- tests. that's great. Once the stuff is present, please send out a new mail (different/new thread) so that folks can take a look at the changes. -Matthias > > Regards, > Ali > > On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 11:52 PM, Gerhard Petracek > <gerhard.petracek@...> wrote: >> >> +1 >> regards, >> gerhard >> >> http://www.irian.at >> >> Your JSF powerhouse - >> JSF Consulting, Development and >> Courses in English and German >> >> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces >> >> >> >> 2010/1/6 Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@...> >>> >>> as the mentioned behavior support already said, I'd like to see this >>> ONLY for JSF2.0 (MyFaces 2.0) >>> >>> -Matze >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@...> >>> wrote: >>> > Hi guys, >>> > >>> > running into this document: >>> > http://diveintohtml5.org/forms.html >>> > >>> > I started playing with some of the new widgets in my Chromium browser >>> > (I wasn't aware that spinbox/sliders are part of >>> > HTML5). >>> > >>> > What about trying to find someone for a GSoC project, to add a (raw) >>> > HTML 5 renderkit? Bernd and I talked about >>> > a potential renderkit last time we saw each other, but now there is >>> > actually some (raw) support on it inside of some >>> > browsers... >>> > >>> > Why not introducing an <hx:***> namespace that could contain stuff as >>> > the following: >>> > -<hx:inputRangeSlider> >>> > -<hx:inputColor> >>> > -<hx:whatEverNewWidgetIsPartOfHTML5 /> >>> > >>> > And/or some more functional stuff, like drag-and-drop: >>> > -<fx:dragAndDrop...> (could be done as a behavior) >>> > >>> > etc. >>> > >>> > What do folks think about that? >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Matthias Wessendorf >>> > >>> > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >>> > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >>> > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Matthias Wessendorf >>> >>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >> > > -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf |
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Re: [GSoc] Google Summer of Code Idea
by Kito Mann
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--- Kito D. Mann | twitter: kito99 | Author, JSF in Action Virtua, Inc. | http://www.virtua.com | JSF/Java EE training and consulting http://www.JSFCentral.com - JavaServer Faces FAQ, news, and info | twitter: jsfcentral +1 203-404-4848 x3 Sign up for the JSFCentral newsletter: http://oi.vresp.com/?fid=ac048d0e17 On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 2:35 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@...> wrote: Hi guys, |
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Re: [GSoc] Google Summer of Code Idea
by Matthias Wessendorf-4
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Hey Ali,
the Google Summer of code has been announced (see my other email). Regarding this idea on HTML5 related stuff, I would like to sign as a mentor for it. @GAE: I saw your path; Jakob did a quick review. So, I hope we can commit that soon. Some more documentation, e.g. a guide or a tutorial would be nice :-) -Matthias On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Ali Ok <aliok@...> wrote: > Hi all, > I sent a couple of mails about "MyFaces on Google App Engine" GSOC proposal. > But after some progress and a conversation with Matthias, I realized that it > is too small for GSOC. > > And I am willing to implement HTML5 Renderkit. > > Meanwhile, I will work on GAE support in parallel. I will post my patch to > JIRA after some -more- tests. > > Regards, > Ali > > On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 11:52 PM, Gerhard Petracek > <gerhard.petracek@...> wrote: >> >> +1 >> regards, >> gerhard >> >> http://www.irian.at >> >> Your JSF powerhouse - >> JSF Consulting, Development and >> Courses in English and German >> >> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces >> >> >> >> 2010/1/6 Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@...> >>> >>> as the mentioned behavior support already said, I'd like to see this >>> ONLY for JSF2.0 (MyFaces 2.0) >>> >>> -Matze >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@...> >>> wrote: >>> > Hi guys, >>> > >>> > running into this document: >>> > http://diveintohtml5.org/forms.html >>> > >>> > I started playing with some of the new widgets in my Chromium browser >>> > (I wasn't aware that spinbox/sliders are part of >>> > HTML5). >>> > >>> > What about trying to find someone for a GSoC project, to add a (raw) >>> > HTML 5 renderkit? Bernd and I talked about >>> > a potential renderkit last time we saw each other, but now there is >>> > actually some (raw) support on it inside of some >>> > browsers... >>> > >>> > Why not introducing an <hx:***> namespace that could contain stuff as >>> > the following: >>> > -<hx:inputRangeSlider> >>> > -<hx:inputColor> >>> > -<hx:whatEverNewWidgetIsPartOfHTML5 /> >>> > >>> > And/or some more functional stuff, like drag-and-drop: >>> > -<fx:dragAndDrop...> (could be done as a behavior) >>> > >>> > etc. >>> > >>> > What do folks think about that? >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Matthias Wessendorf >>> > >>> > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >>> > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >>> > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Matthias Wessendorf >>> >>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >> > > -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf |
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Re: [GSoc] Google Summer of Code Idea
by Ali Ok-3
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Hi Matthias,
Thanks for your support. I think this GSOC will be cool:) Since this will be a seperate project, I will start modifiying my local Tomahawk code-base, and inspecting how it works, right away. About GAE, I've started preparing the document yesterday, but couldn't finished. I will send the APT document, and a tutorial explaining how to set up a Eclipse project, this night for sure. Best Regards, Ali On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@...> wrote: Hey Ali, |
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Re: [GSoc] Google Summer of Code Idea
by Matthias Wessendorf-4
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no hurry! :-) Take it easy ;-)
Thanks! Matthias On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Ali Ok <aliok@...> wrote: > Hi Matthias, > > Thanks for your support. I think this GSOC will be cool:) > > Since this will be a seperate project, I will start modifiying my local > Tomahawk code-base, and inspecting how it works, right away. > > About GAE, I've started preparing the document yesterday, but couldn't > finished. I will send the APT document, and a tutorial explaining how to set > up a Eclipse project, this night for sure. > > Best Regards, > Ali > > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@...> > wrote: >> >> Hey Ali, >> >> the Google Summer of code has been announced (see my other email). >> >> Regarding this idea on HTML5 related stuff, >> I would like to sign as a mentor for it. >> >> @GAE: I saw your path; Jakob did a quick review. >> So, I hope we can commit that soon. Some more documentation, >> e.g. a guide or a tutorial would be nice :-) >> >> -Matthias >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Ali Ok <aliok@...> wrote: >> > Hi all, >> > I sent a couple of mails about "MyFaces on Google App Engine" GSOC >> > proposal. >> > But after some progress and a conversation with Matthias, I realized >> > that it >> > is too small for GSOC. >> > >> > And I am willing to implement HTML5 Renderkit. >> > >> > Meanwhile, I will work on GAE support in parallel. I will post my patch >> > to >> > JIRA after some -more- tests. >> > >> > Regards, >> > Ali >> > >> > On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 11:52 PM, Gerhard Petracek >> > <gerhard.petracek@...> wrote: >> >> >> >> +1 >> >> regards, >> >> gerhard >> >> >> >> http://www.irian.at >> >> >> >> Your JSF powerhouse - >> >> JSF Consulting, Development and >> >> Courses in English and German >> >> >> >> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2010/1/6 Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@...> >> >>> >> >>> as the mentioned behavior support already said, I'd like to see this >> >>> ONLY for JSF2.0 (MyFaces 2.0) >> >>> >> >>> -Matze >> >>> >> >>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Matthias Wessendorf >> >>> <matzew@...> >> >>> wrote: >> >>> > Hi guys, >> >>> > >> >>> > running into this document: >> >>> > http://diveintohtml5.org/forms.html >> >>> > >> >>> > I started playing with some of the new widgets in my Chromium >> >>> > browser >> >>> > (I wasn't aware that spinbox/sliders are part of >> >>> > HTML5). >> >>> > >> >>> > What about trying to find someone for a GSoC project, to add a (raw) >> >>> > HTML 5 renderkit? Bernd and I talked about >> >>> > a potential renderkit last time we saw each other, but now there is >> >>> > actually some (raw) support on it inside of some >> >>> > browsers... >> >>> > >> >>> > Why not introducing an <hx:***> namespace that could contain stuff >> >>> > as >> >>> > the following: >> >>> > -<hx:inputRangeSlider> >> >>> > -<hx:inputColor> >> >>> > -<hx:whatEverNewWidgetIsPartOfHTML5 /> >> >>> > >> >>> > And/or some more functional stuff, like drag-and-drop: >> >>> > -<fx:dragAndDrop...> (could be done as a behavior) >> >>> > >> >>> > etc. >> >>> > >> >>> > What do folks think about that? >> >>> > >> >>> > -- >> >>> > Matthias Wessendorf >> >>> > >> >>> > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >> >>> > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >> >>> > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >> >>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Matthias Wessendorf >> >>> >> >>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >> >>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >> >>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Matthias Wessendorf >> >> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf > > -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf |
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Re: [GSoc] Google Summer of Code Idea
by Ingo Hofmann
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Hi there,
I'm a student in my last semester and highly interested in going in for the GSOC this year. However, I'm able to afford only 15 hours a week (approx.). Would it be a good idea to apply for this project unter these time limitation? I really don't have a clue about the required effort. I would appreciate an advice. Cheers, Ingo 2010/1/27 Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@...> no hurry! :-) Take it easy ;-) |
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