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[MyFaces 2.0] discussion on alpha plans
by Michael Concini
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All,
I thought it might be a good time to raise the issue of solidifying a plan for the MyFaces 2.0 alpha release now that we've had a little time to work with the release candidate draft of the spec. What are the thoughts in the community with respect to what should be included in an alpha release as well as what the time frame should be for a release. If we can come up with a target date as well as specific 2.0 features we want to target for inclusion, that should help in prioritizing the remaining work. From my end, I'd love to see a working runtime in some form by the end of August if that's reasonable. As for content, that is definitely more of an open question. Here is my top list of what I would like to see be at least partially functional for an alpha release. -backwards compatibility with JSF 1.x apps -base support for facelets and composite components -AJAX support (should hopefully be in pretty good shape here thanks to Ganesh and team) -System event support -Partial view traversal Thoughts/concerns/objections? -Mike |
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Re: [MyFaces 2.0] discussion on alpha plans
by Matthias Wessendorf-4
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Hey mike,
I agree that we should try to get an *alpha* out of the door. Main mantra is: release often, release early q: what is the state on the facelets support, currently ? -Matthias On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 2:11 PM, Michael Concini<mconcini@...> wrote: > All, > > I thought it might be a good time to raise the issue of solidifying a plan > for the MyFaces 2.0 alpha release now that we've had a little time to work > with the release candidate draft of the spec. What are the thoughts in the > community with respect to what should be included in an alpha release as > well as what the time frame should be for a release. If we can come up with > a target date as well as specific 2.0 features we want to target for > inclusion, that should help in prioritizing the remaining work. > From my end, I'd love to see a working runtime in some form by the end of > August if that's reasonable. As for content, that is definitely more of an > open question. Here is my top list of what I would like to see be at least > partially functional for an alpha release. > -backwards compatibility with JSF 1.x apps > -base support for facelets and composite components > -AJAX support (should hopefully be in pretty good shape here thanks to > Ganesh and team) > -System event support > -Partial view traversal > > Thoughts/concerns/objections? > > -Mike > -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf |
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Re: [MyFaces 2.0] discussion on alpha plans
by Werner Punz-2
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Michael Concini schrieb:
> All, > > I thought it might be a good time to raise the issue of solidifying a > plan for the MyFaces 2.0 alpha release now that we've had a little time > to work with the release candidate draft of the spec. What are the > thoughts in the community with respect to what should be included in an > alpha release as well as what the time frame should be for a release. > If we can come up with a target date as well as specific 2.0 features we > want to target for inclusion, that should help in prioritizing the > remaining work. > From my end, I'd love to see a working runtime in some form by the end > of August if that's reasonable. As for content, that is definitely more > of an open question. Here is my top list of what I would like to see be > at least partially functional for an alpha release. > -backwards compatibility with JSF 1.x apps > -base support for facelets and composite components > -AJAX support (should hopefully be in pretty good shape here thanks to > Ganesh and team) > -System event support > -Partial view traversal > > Thoughts/concerns/objections? > > -Mike > The scripts already are in pretty good shape and functionalitywise well ahead of the RI ;-) As for partial Tree traversal minor sidequestion? Has anyone started to work on this, because I have started to implement the partial visit context (I have to recheck the jira for this, because I opened an issue for this under partial render response issue 2116/2241)! https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-2241 I will commit my code around tomorrow, it is basically done but needs some testing! Werner |
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Re: [MyFaces 2.0] discussion on alpha plans
by Werner Punz-2
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Matthias Wessendorf schrieb:
> Hey mike, > > I agree that we should try to get an *alpha* out of the door. > Full ack, I personally think the biggest priority for now is to get a working release so that we can start to test and fix the entire thing. As for now we have a load of parts, many of them already working well, but the full integration picture is missing. (Well I have not tried to run the entire thing standalone for now so my current knowledge might be wrong) Werner |
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Re: Re: [MyFaces 2.0] discussion on alpha plans
by Jan-Kees van Andel
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Hi,
The end of my extremely busy project is near, so I should have more time to work on MyFaces. My last work was on the annotation processing stuff, but AFAIK, Leonardo has continued this work. @Leonardo: What's the current state? Something else, some weeks ago, there was a discussion about restructuring the SVN, but that was delayed to enable Leonardo to do a release. Maybe this is a good time for the restructuring, before starting with the real work. Maybe we should also cleanup the build. Now Shale has been moved to the attic, we can upgrade the Shale mocks to 2.0. Then we can try to make all tests pass. We might also standardize on a testing framework (JUnit or TestNG) to simplify things... When all tests are up and running, the build process should be more smooth. /JK On Jun 9, 2009 1:07am, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@...> wrote: > Hey mike, > > > > I agree that we should try to get an *alpha* out of the door. > > > > Main mantra is: release often, release early > > > > q: what is the state on the facelets support, currently ? > > > > -Matthias > > > > On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 2:11 PM, Michael Concinimconcini@...> wrote: > > > All, > > > > > > I thought it might be a good time to raise the issue of solidifying a plan > > > for the MyFaces 2.0 alpha release now that we've had a little time to work > > > with the release candidate draft of the spec. What are the thoughts in the > > > community with respect to what should be included in an alpha release as > > > well as what the time frame should be for a release. If we can come up with > > > a target date as well as specific 2.0 features we want to target for > > > inclusion, that should help in prioritizing the remaining work. > > > From my end, I'd love to see a working runtime in some form by the end of > > > August if that's reasonable. As for content, that is definitely more of an > > > open question. Here is my top list of what I would like to see be at least > > > partially functional for an alpha release. > > > -backwards compatibility with JSF 1.x apps > > > -base support for facelets and composite components > > > -AJAX support (should hopefully be in pretty good shape here thanks to > > > Ganesh and team) > > > -System event support > > > -Partial view traversal > > > > > > Thoughts/concerns/objections? > > > > > > -Mike > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Matthias Wessendorf > > > > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf > |
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Re: [MyFaces 2.0] discussion on alpha plans
by Michael Concini
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Wasn't there a plan to have some of the partial tree traversal work done
as part of the Google Summer of Code? I seem to recall some discussion around this awhile back (don't have time to dig through the mailing list archives right now to check). Does anybody remember what the plan was with Google SoC? Werner Punz wrote: > Michael Concini schrieb: >> All, >> >> I thought it might be a good time to raise the issue of solidifying a >> plan for the MyFaces 2.0 alpha release now that we've had a little >> time to work with the release candidate draft of the spec. What are >> the thoughts in the community with respect to what should be included >> in an alpha release as well as what the time frame should be for a >> release. If we can come up with a target date as well as specific >> 2.0 features we want to target for inclusion, that should help in >> prioritizing the remaining work. >> From my end, I'd love to see a working runtime in some form by the >> end of August if that's reasonable. As for content, that is >> definitely more of an open question. Here is my top list of what I >> would like to see be at least partially functional for an alpha release. >> -backwards compatibility with JSF 1.x apps >> -base support for facelets and composite components >> -AJAX support (should hopefully be in pretty good shape here thanks >> to Ganesh and team) >> -System event support >> -Partial view traversal >> >> Thoughts/concerns/objections? >> >> -Mike >> > None from my side not sure how far Ganesh is with his ajax tag! > The scripts already are in pretty good shape and functionalitywise > well ahead of the RI ;-) > > As for partial Tree traversal minor sidequestion? Has anyone started > to work on this, because I have started to implement the partial visit > context (I have to recheck the jira for this, because I opened an > issue for this under partial render response issue 2116/2241)! > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-2241 > > I will commit my code around tomorrow, it is basically done > but needs some testing! > > > > Werner > > |
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Re: [MyFaces 2.0] discussion on alpha plans
by Curtiss Howard
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On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 5:07 AM, Werner Punz<werner.punz@...> wrote:
> Matthias Wessendorf schrieb: >> >> Hey mike, >> >> I agree that we should try to get an *alpha* out of the door. >> > > Full ack, I personally think the biggest priority for now is > to get a working release so that we can start to test and fix > the entire thing. As for now we have a load of parts, many of them already > working well, but the full integration picture is missing. > > (Well I have not tried to run the entire thing standalone for now so my > current knowledge might be wrong) > > > > Werner > > That was what I was thinking as well. I think most of the focus has been on "filling the gaps" but how well those pieces work together is rather unknown. Curtiss Howard |
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Re: [MyFaces 2.0] discussion on alpha plans
by Werner Punz-2
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Michael Concini schrieb:
> Wasn't there a plan to have some of the partial tree traversal work done > as part of the Google Summer of Code? I seem to recall some discussion > around this awhile back (don't have time to dig through the mailing list > archives right now to check). Does anybody remember what the plan was > with Google SoC? > Interesting question, but I assume I only have a small subset of the needed functionality implemented, the one we need for PPR so, I will commit my tomorrow as soon as I have tested it, whoever wants to do something in GSOC can pick it up and refine it. But have in mind, my work currently only coveres the area of providing a PartialVisitContext so that I have a complete state for PPR in this area! If someone comes with a better solution I dont have any problem dropping the code again ;-) Werner > Werner Punz wrote: >> Michael Concini schrieb: >>> All, >>> >>> I thought it might be a good time to raise the issue of solidifying a >>> plan for the MyFaces 2.0 alpha release now that we've had a little >>> time to work with the release candidate draft of the spec. What are >>> the thoughts in the community with respect to what should be included >>> in an alpha release as well as what the time frame should be for a >>> release. If we can come up with a target date as well as specific >>> 2.0 features we want to target for inclusion, that should help in >>> prioritizing the remaining work. >>> From my end, I'd love to see a working runtime in some form by the >>> end of August if that's reasonable. As for content, that is >>> definitely more of an open question. Here is my top list of what I >>> would like to see be at least partially functional for an alpha release. >>> -backwards compatibility with JSF 1.x apps >>> -base support for facelets and composite components >>> -AJAX support (should hopefully be in pretty good shape here thanks >>> to Ganesh and team) >>> -System event support >>> -Partial view traversal >>> >>> Thoughts/concerns/objections? >>> >>> -Mike >>> >> None from my side not sure how far Ganesh is with his ajax tag! >> The scripts already are in pretty good shape and functionalitywise >> well ahead of the RI ;-) >> >> As for partial Tree traversal minor sidequestion? Has anyone started >> to work on this, because I have started to implement the partial visit >> context (I have to recheck the jira for this, because I opened an >> issue for this under partial render response issue 2116/2241)! >> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-2241 >> >> I will commit my code around tomorrow, it is basically done >> but needs some testing! >> >> >> >> Werner >> >> > > |
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Re: [MyFaces 2.0] discussion on alpha plans
by Matthias Wessendorf-4
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On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 5:15 AM, Michael Concini<mconcini@...> wrote:
> Wasn't there a plan to have some of the partial tree traversal work done as > part of the Google Summer of Code? I seem to recall some discussion around > this awhile back (don't have time to dig through the mailing list archives > right now to check). Does anybody remember what the plan was with Google > SoC? I think there was some of that - however I am sure there was no student for doing that :-) Or was there one ? -Matthias > > Werner Punz wrote: >> >> Michael Concini schrieb: >>> >>> All, >>> >>> I thought it might be a good time to raise the issue of solidifying a >>> plan for the MyFaces 2.0 alpha release now that we've had a little time to >>> work with the release candidate draft of the spec. What are the thoughts in >>> the community with respect to what should be included in an alpha release as >>> well as what the time frame should be for a release. If we can come up with >>> a target date as well as specific 2.0 features we want to target for >>> inclusion, that should help in prioritizing the remaining work. >>> From my end, I'd love to see a working runtime in some form by the end >>> of August if that's reasonable. As for content, that is definitely more of >>> an open question. Here is my top list of what I would like to see be at >>> least partially functional for an alpha release. >>> -backwards compatibility with JSF 1.x apps >>> -base support for facelets and composite components >>> -AJAX support (should hopefully be in pretty good shape here thanks to >>> Ganesh and team) >>> -System event support >>> -Partial view traversal >>> >>> Thoughts/concerns/objections? >>> >>> -Mike >>> >> None from my side not sure how far Ganesh is with his ajax tag! >> The scripts already are in pretty good shape and functionalitywise well >> ahead of the RI ;-) >> >> As for partial Tree traversal minor sidequestion? Has anyone started to >> work on this, because I have started to implement the partial visit context >> (I have to recheck the jira for this, because I opened an issue for this >> under partial render response issue 2116/2241)! >> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-2241 >> >> I will commit my code around tomorrow, it is basically done >> but needs some testing! >> >> >> >> Werner >> >> > > -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf |
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Re: [MyFaces 2.0] discussion on alpha plans
by Matthias Wessendorf-4
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regarding tree visitor, this may help:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TRINIDAD-1368 -Matthias On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 6:37 AM, Werner Punz<werner.punz@...> wrote: > Michael Concini schrieb: >> >> Wasn't there a plan to have some of the partial tree traversal work done >> as part of the Google Summer of Code? I seem to recall some discussion >> around this awhile back (don't have time to dig through the mailing list >> archives right now to check). Does anybody remember what the plan was with >> Google SoC? >> > Interesting question, but I assume I only have a small subset of the needed > functionality implemented, the one we need for PPR so, > I will commit my tomorrow as soon as I have tested it, whoever wants to do > something in GSOC can pick it up and refine it. But have in mind, my work > currently only coveres the area of providing a PartialVisitContext so that I > have a complete state for PPR in this area! > If someone comes with a better solution I dont have any problem dropping the > code again ;-) > > > Werner > > > >> Werner Punz wrote: >>> >>> Michael Concini schrieb: >>>> >>>> All, >>>> >>>> I thought it might be a good time to raise the issue of solidifying a >>>> plan for the MyFaces 2.0 alpha release now that we've had a little time to >>>> work with the release candidate draft of the spec. What are the thoughts in >>>> the community with respect to what should be included in an alpha release as >>>> well as what the time frame should be for a release. If we can come up with >>>> a target date as well as specific 2.0 features we want to target for >>>> inclusion, that should help in prioritizing the remaining work. >>>> From my end, I'd love to see a working runtime in some form by the end >>>> of August if that's reasonable. As for content, that is definitely more of >>>> an open question. Here is my top list of what I would like to see be at >>>> least partially functional for an alpha release. >>>> -backwards compatibility with JSF 1.x apps >>>> -base support for facelets and composite components >>>> -AJAX support (should hopefully be in pretty good shape here thanks to >>>> Ganesh and team) >>>> -System event support >>>> -Partial view traversal >>>> >>>> Thoughts/concerns/objections? >>>> >>>> -Mike >>>> >>> None from my side not sure how far Ganesh is with his ajax tag! >>> The scripts already are in pretty good shape and functionalitywise well >>> ahead of the RI ;-) >>> >>> As for partial Tree traversal minor sidequestion? Has anyone started to >>> work on this, because I have started to implement the partial visit context >>> (I have to recheck the jira for this, because I opened an issue for this >>> under partial render response issue 2116/2241)! >>> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-2241 >>> >>> I will commit my code around tomorrow, it is basically done >>> but needs some testing! >>> >>> >>> >>> Werner >>> >>> >> >> > > -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf |
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Re: [MyFaces 2.0] discussion on alpha plans
by Werner Punz-2
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Matthias Wessendorf schrieb:
> regarding tree visitor, this may help: > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TRINIDAD-1368 > Thanks for the link, I will get it and compare it to what I have... I assume there wont be too much which I still can integrated in the PartialVisitContext since I am rather optimized already and bound by the spec! Werner > -Matthias > > On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 6:37 AM, Werner Punz<werner.punz@...> wrote: >> Michael Concini schrieb: >>> Wasn't there a plan to have some of the partial tree traversal work done >>> as part of the Google Summer of Code? I seem to recall some discussion >>> around this awhile back (don't have time to dig through the mailing list >>> archives right now to check). Does anybody remember what the plan was with >>> Google SoC? >>> >> Interesting question, but I assume I only have a small subset of the needed >> functionality implemented, the one we need for PPR so, >> I will commit my tomorrow as soon as I have tested it, whoever wants to do >> something in GSOC can pick it up and refine it. But have in mind, my work >> currently only coveres the area of providing a PartialVisitContext so that I >> have a complete state for PPR in this area! >> If someone comes with a better solution I dont have any problem dropping the >> code again ;-) >> >> >> Werner >> >> >> >>> Werner Punz wrote: >>>> Michael Concini schrieb: >>>>> All, >>>>> >>>>> I thought it might be a good time to raise the issue of solidifying a >>>>> plan for the MyFaces 2.0 alpha release now that we've had a little time to >>>>> work with the release candidate draft of the spec. What are the thoughts in >>>>> the community with respect to what should be included in an alpha release as >>>>> well as what the time frame should be for a release. If we can come up with >>>>> a target date as well as specific 2.0 features we want to target for >>>>> inclusion, that should help in prioritizing the remaining work. >>>>> From my end, I'd love to see a working runtime in some form by the end >>>>> of August if that's reasonable. As for content, that is definitely more of >>>>> an open question. Here is my top list of what I would like to see be at >>>>> least partially functional for an alpha release. >>>>> -backwards compatibility with JSF 1.x apps >>>>> -base support for facelets and composite components >>>>> -AJAX support (should hopefully be in pretty good shape here thanks to >>>>> Ganesh and team) >>>>> -System event support >>>>> -Partial view traversal >>>>> >>>>> Thoughts/concerns/objections? >>>>> >>>>> -Mike >>>>> >>>> None from my side not sure how far Ganesh is with his ajax tag! >>>> The scripts already are in pretty good shape and functionalitywise well >>>> ahead of the RI ;-) >>>> >>>> As for partial Tree traversal minor sidequestion? Has anyone started to >>>> work on this, because I have started to implement the partial visit context >>>> (I have to recheck the jira for this, because I opened an issue for this >>>> under partial render response issue 2116/2241)! >>>> >>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-2241 >>>> >>>> I will commit my code around tomorrow, it is basically done >>>> but needs some testing! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Werner >>>> >>>> >>> >> > > > |
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Re: [MyFaces 2.0] discussion on alpha plans
by Simon Lessard
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Hi,
On my side I'll try to work and finish Facelets part within 2 weeks, fater than that is impossible for me atm. Regards, ~ Simon On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Werner Punz <werner.punz@...> wrote: Matthias Wessendorf schrieb: |
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Re: [MyFaces 2.0] discussion on alpha plans
by Ganesh.Puri
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Facelets are apache 2.0 licensed, why do we reinvent them? Best regards, Ganesh Simon Lessard schrieb: > Hi, > > On my side I'll try to work and finish Facelets part within 2 weeks, > fater than that is impossible for me atm. > > > Regards, > > ~ Simon > > On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Werner Punz <werner.punz@... > <mailto:werner.punz@...>> wrote: > > Matthias Wessendorf schrieb: > > regarding tree visitor, this may help: > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TRINIDAD-1368 > > Thanks for the link, I will get it and compare it to what I have... > I assume there wont be too much which I still can integrated in > the PartialVisitContext since I am rather optimized already and > bound by the spec! > > > Werner > > > > > > -Matthias > > On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 6:37 AM, Werner > Punz<werner.punz@... <mailto:werner.punz@...>> wrote: > > Michael Concini schrieb: > > Wasn't there a plan to have some of the partial tree > traversal work done > as part of the Google Summer of Code? I seem to > recall some discussion > around this awhile back (don't have time to dig > through the mailing list > archives right now to check). Does anybody remember > what the plan was with > Google SoC? > > Interesting question, but I assume I only have a small > subset of the needed > functionality implemented, the one we need for PPR so, > I will commit my tomorrow as soon as I have tested it, > whoever wants to do > something in GSOC can pick it up and refine it. But have > in mind, my work > currently only coveres the area of providing a > PartialVisitContext so that I > have a complete state for PPR in this area! > If someone comes with a better solution I dont have any > problem dropping the > code again ;-) > > > Werner > > > > Werner Punz wrote: > > Michael Concini schrieb: > > All, > > I thought it might be a good time to raise the > issue of solidifying a > plan for the MyFaces 2.0 alpha release now > that we've had a little time to > work with the release candidate draft of the > spec. What are the thoughts in > the community with respect to what should be > included in an alpha release as > well as what the time frame should be for a > release. If we can come up with > a target date as well as specific 2.0 features > we want to target for > inclusion, that should help in prioritizing > the remaining work. > From my end, I'd love to see a working > runtime in some form by the end > of August if that's reasonable. As for > content, that is definitely more of > an open question. Here is my top list of what > I would like to see be at > least partially functional for an alpha release. > -backwards compatibility with JSF 1.x apps > -base support for facelets and composite > components > -AJAX support (should hopefully be in pretty > good shape here thanks to > Ganesh and team) > -System event support > -Partial view traversal > > Thoughts/concerns/objections? > > -Mike > > None from my side not sure how far Ganesh is with > his ajax tag! > The scripts already are in pretty good shape and > functionalitywise well > ahead of the RI ;-) > > As for partial Tree traversal minor sidequestion? > Has anyone started to > work on this, because I have started to implement > the partial visit context > (I have to recheck the jira for this, because I > opened an issue for this > under partial render response issue 2116/2241)! > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-2241 > > I will commit my code around tomorrow, it is > basically done > but needs some testing! > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > |
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Re: [MyFaces 2.0] discussion on alpha plans
by Matthias Wessendorf-4
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On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Ganesh<ganesh@...> wrote:
> Hi, > > Facelets are apache 2.0 licensed, correct > why do we reinvent them? they added stuff for JSF 2.0 e.g. <composite:interface> etc (but didn't put it into the Apache licensed version) > > Best regards, > Ganesh > > Simon Lessard schrieb: >> >> Hi, >> >> On my side I'll try to work and finish Facelets part within 2 weeks, fater >> than that is impossible for me atm. >> >> >> Regards, >> >> ~ Simon >> >> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Werner Punz <werner.punz@... >> <mailto:werner.punz@...>> wrote: >> >> Matthias Wessendorf schrieb: >> >> regarding tree visitor, this may help: >> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TRINIDAD-1368 >> >> Thanks for the link, I will get it and compare it to what I have... >> I assume there wont be too much which I still can integrated in >> the PartialVisitContext since I am rather optimized already and >> bound by the spec! >> >> >> Werner >> >> >> >> >> >> -Matthias >> >> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 6:37 AM, Werner >> Punz<werner.punz@... <mailto:werner.punz@...>> wrote: >> >> Michael Concini schrieb: >> >> Wasn't there a plan to have some of the partial tree >> traversal work done >> as part of the Google Summer of Code? I seem to >> recall some discussion >> around this awhile back (don't have time to dig >> through the mailing list >> archives right now to check). Does anybody remember >> what the plan was with >> Google SoC? >> >> Interesting question, but I assume I only have a small >> subset of the needed >> functionality implemented, the one we need for PPR so, >> I will commit my tomorrow as soon as I have tested it, >> whoever wants to do >> something in GSOC can pick it up and refine it. But have >> in mind, my work >> currently only coveres the area of providing a >> PartialVisitContext so that I >> have a complete state for PPR in this area! >> If someone comes with a better solution I dont have any >> problem dropping the >> code again ;-) >> >> >> Werner >> >> >> >> Werner Punz wrote: >> >> Michael Concini schrieb: >> >> All, >> >> I thought it might be a good time to raise the >> issue of solidifying a >> plan for the MyFaces 2.0 alpha release now >> that we've had a little time to >> work with the release candidate draft of the >> spec. What are the thoughts in >> the community with respect to what should be >> included in an alpha release as >> well as what the time frame should be for a >> release. If we can come up with >> a target date as well as specific 2.0 features >> we want to target for >> inclusion, that should help in prioritizing >> the remaining work. >> From my end, I'd love to see a working >> runtime in some form by the end >> of August if that's reasonable. As for >> content, that is definitely more of >> an open question. Here is my top list of what >> I would like to see be at >> least partially functional for an alpha release. >> -backwards compatibility with JSF 1.x apps >> -base support for facelets and composite >> components >> -AJAX support (should hopefully be in pretty >> good shape here thanks to >> Ganesh and team) >> -System event support >> -Partial view traversal >> >> Thoughts/concerns/objections? >> >> -Mike >> >> None from my side not sure how far Ganesh is with >> his ajax tag! >> The scripts already are in pretty good shape and >> functionalitywise well >> ahead of the RI ;-) >> >> As for partial Tree traversal minor sidequestion? >> Has anyone started to >> work on this, because I have started to implement >> the partial visit context >> (I have to recheck the jira for this, because I >> opened an issue for this >> under partial render response issue 2116/2241)! >> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-2241 >> >> I will commit my code around tomorrow, it is >> basically done >> but needs some testing! >> >> >> >> Werner >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf |
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Re: [MyFaces 2.0] discussion on alpha plans
by Simon Lessard
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We use the Facelets codebase, we just have to rename the package (already done), use the HandlerDelegate ... thing ... and implement the Facelets VDL. Those are not part of "standard" Facelets with existing ASL 2.0 code.
~ Simon On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@...> wrote:
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Re: [MyFaces 2.0] discussion on alpha plans
by Leonardo Uribe
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Good to hear that facelets part will be committed soon. I hope to start working on javax.faces.behavior api and continue contribute on other parts of myfaces core 2.0 (for example implement partial state saving) as soon as tomahawk be released (planned on next week). regards Leonardo Uribe 2009/6/9 Simon Lessard <simon.lessard.3@...> We use the Facelets codebase, we just have to rename the package (already done), use the HandlerDelegate ... thing ... and implement the Facelets VDL. Those are not part of "standard" Facelets with existing ASL 2.0 code. |
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Re: [MyFaces 2.0] discussion on alpha plans
by Leonardo Uribe
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Just as a brief review, this is an updated list about the state of myfaces core 2.0.0 branch: Pending tasks - Facelets PDL - Client behavior API (depends from facelets and composite component stuff) - Error handling API (and run through existing classes to make sure the new exception specification is enforced) - Partial view API - Partial State Saving - Add Flash scope - New tags (mostly linked to Facelets) - Unit tests (conversion shale -> myfaces code) Done tasks (some parts maybe requires testing or minor updates) - Resource API - Annotation support - h:outputScript and h:outputStyleSheet renderer - Config ordering - JavaScript API - Tree visiting API - SystemEvent API - New validators (Bean and regex mainly) - Utility methods (ExternalContext mainly) (requires testing) regards Leonardo Uribe 2009/6/9 Leonardo Uribe <lu4242@...> Hi |
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Re: [MyFaces 2.0] discussion on alpha plans
by Ganesh.Puri
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Hi,
Would be great to have a basic page getting through, so new tags and partial stuff can be based upon it. Has anyone tried? Implementation of f:ajax is based on client behaviour stuff. Have you already started implementation (just to avoid duplicating it)? Best regards, Ganesh Leonardo Uribe schrieb: > Hi > > Just as a brief review, this is an updated list about the state of > myfaces core 2.0.0 branch: > > Pending tasks > > - Facelets PDL > - Client behavior API (depends from facelets and composite component > stuff) > - Error handling API (and run through existing classes to make sure > the new exception specification is enforced) > - Partial view API > - Partial State Saving > - Add Flash scope > - New tags (mostly linked to Facelets) > - Unit tests (conversion shale -> myfaces code) > > Done tasks (some parts maybe requires testing or minor updates) > > - Resource API > - Annotation support > - h:outputScript and h:outputStyleSheet renderer > - Config ordering > - JavaScript API > - Tree visiting API > - SystemEvent API > - New validators (Bean and regex mainly) > - Utility methods (ExternalContext mainly) (requires testing) > > regards > > Leonardo Uribe > > 2009/6/9 Leonardo Uribe <lu4242@... <mailto:lu4242@...>> > > Hi > > Good to hear that facelets part will be committed soon. I hope to > start working on javax.faces.behavior api and continue contribute > on other parts of myfaces core 2.0 (for example implement partial > state saving) as soon as tomahawk be released (planned on next week). > > regards > > Leonardo Uribe > > 2009/6/9 Simon Lessard <simon.lessard.3@... > <mailto:simon.lessard.3@...>> > > We use the Facelets codebase, we just have to rename the > package (already done), use the HandlerDelegate ... thing ... > and implement the Facelets VDL. Those are not part of > "standard" Facelets with existing ASL 2.0 code. > > > ~ Simon > > > On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Matthias Wessendorf > <matzew@... <mailto:matzew@...>> wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Ganesh<ganesh@... > <mailto:ganesh@...>> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Facelets are apache 2.0 licensed, > > correct > > > why do we reinvent them? > > they added stuff for JSF 2.0 > > e.g. <composite:interface> etc > (but didn't put it into the Apache licensed version) > > > > > Best regards, > > Ganesh > > > > Simon Lessard schrieb: > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> On my side I'll try to work and finish Facelets part > within 2 weeks, fater > >> than that is impossible for me atm. > >> > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> ~ Simon > >> > >> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Werner Punz > <werner.punz@... <mailto:werner.punz@...> > >> <mailto:werner.punz@... > <mailto:werner.punz@...>>> wrote: > >> > >> Matthias Wessendorf schrieb: > >> > >> regarding tree visitor, this may help: > >> > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TRINIDAD-1368 > >> > >> Thanks for the link, I will get it and compare it to > what I have... > >> I assume there wont be too much which I still can > integrated in > >> the PartialVisitContext since I am rather optimized > already and > >> bound by the spec! > >> > >> > >> Werner > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -Matthias > >> > >> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 6:37 AM, Werner > >> Punz<werner.punz@... > <mailto:werner.punz@...> > <mailto:werner.punz@... > <mailto:werner.punz@...>>> wrote: > >> > >> Michael Concini schrieb: > >> > >> Wasn't there a plan to have some of the > partial tree > >> traversal work done > >> as part of the Google Summer of Code? I > seem to > >> recall some discussion > >> around this awhile back (don't have time > to dig > >> through the mailing list > >> archives right now to check). Does > anybody remember > >> what the plan was with > >> Google SoC? > >> > >> Interesting question, but I assume I only > have a small > >> subset of the needed > >> functionality implemented, the one we need > for PPR so, > >> I will commit my tomorrow as soon as I have > tested it, > >> whoever wants to do > >> something in GSOC can pick it up and refine > it. But have > >> in mind, my work > >> currently only coveres the area of providing a > >> PartialVisitContext so that I > >> have a complete state for PPR in this area! > >> If someone comes with a better solution I > dont have any > >> problem dropping the > >> code again ;-) > >> > >> > >> Werner > >> > >> > >> > >> Werner Punz wrote: > >> > >> Michael Concini schrieb: > >> > >> All, > >> > >> I thought it might be a good > time to raise the > >> issue of solidifying a > >> plan for the MyFaces 2.0 alpha > release now > >> that we've had a little time to > >> work with the release candidate > draft of the > >> spec. What are the thoughts in > >> the community with respect to > what should be > >> included in an alpha release as > >> well as what the time frame > should be for a > >> release. If we can come up with > >> a target date as well as > specific 2.0 features > >> we want to target for > >> inclusion, that should help in > prioritizing > >> the remaining work. > >> From my end, I'd love to see a > working > >> runtime in some form by the end > >> of August if that's reasonable. > As for > >> content, that is definitely more of > >> an open question. Here is my top > list of what > >> I would like to see be at > >> least partially functional for > an alpha release. > >> -backwards compatibility with > JSF 1.x apps > >> -base support for facelets and > composite > >> components > >> -AJAX support (should hopefully > be in pretty > >> good shape here thanks to > >> Ganesh and team) > >> -System event support > >> -Partial view traversal > >> > >> Thoughts/concerns/objections? > >> > >> -Mike > >> > >> None from my side not sure how far > Ganesh is with > >> his ajax tag! > >> The scripts already are in pretty > good shape and > >> functionalitywise well > >> ahead of the RI ;-) > >> > >> As for partial Tree traversal minor > sidequestion? > >> Has anyone started to > >> work on this, because I have started > to implement > >> the partial visit context > >> (I have to recheck the jira for > this, because I > >> opened an issue for this > >> under partial render response issue > 2116/2241)! > >> > >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-2241 > >> > >> I will commit my code around > tomorrow, it is > >> basically done > >> but needs some testing! > >> > >> > >> > >> Werner > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > Matthias Wessendorf > > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf > > > > |
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Re: [MyFaces 2.0] discussion on alpha plans
by Leonardo Uribe
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2009/6/18 Ganesh <ganesh@...> Hi,
Not yet. Right now I'm just reading the spec and the latest myfaces core code, trying to define pending tasks and what it is better to do at this time. Feel free to start working on it. I'll do some other tasks. regards Leonardo Uribe
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Re: [MyFaces 2.0] discussion on alpha plans
by Werner Punz-2
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Component API still has one unimplemented method in UIComponent (I am
working on it as we speak, I will probably have it finished next week! - you probably cann add the missing part to partial state saving though!) Werner Leonardo Uribe schrieb: > Hi > > Just as a brief review, this is an updated list about the state of > myfaces core 2.0.0 branch: > > Pending tasks > > - Facelets PDL > - Client behavior API (depends from facelets and composite component stuff) > - Error handling API (and run through existing classes to make sure the > new exception specification is enforced) > - Partial view API > - Partial State Saving > - Add Flash scope > - New tags (mostly linked to Facelets) > - Unit tests (conversion shale -> myfaces code) > > Done tasks (some parts maybe requires testing or minor updates) > > - Resource API > - Annotation support > - h:outputScript and h:outputStyleSheet renderer > - Config ordering > - JavaScript API > - Tree visiting API > - SystemEvent API > - New validators (Bean and regex mainly) > - Utility methods (ExternalContext mainly) (requires testing) > > regards > > Leonardo Uribe > > 2009/6/9 Leonardo Uribe <lu4242@... <mailto:lu4242@...>> > > Hi > > Good to hear that facelets part will be committed soon. I hope to > start working on javax.faces.behavior api and continue contribute on > other parts of myfaces core 2.0 (for example implement partial state > saving) as soon as tomahawk be released (planned on next week). > > regards > > Leonardo Uribe > > 2009/6/9 Simon Lessard <simon.lessard.3@... > <mailto:simon.lessard.3@...>> > > We use the Facelets codebase, we just have to rename the package > (already done), use the HandlerDelegate ... thing ... and > implement the Facelets VDL. Those are not part of "standard" > Facelets with existing ASL 2.0 code. > > > ~ Simon > > > On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Matthias Wessendorf > <matzew@... <mailto:matzew@...>> wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Ganesh<ganesh@... > <mailto:ganesh@...>> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Facelets are apache 2.0 licensed, > > correct > > > why do we reinvent them? > > they added stuff for JSF 2.0 > > e.g. <composite:interface> etc > (but didn't put it into the Apache licensed version) > > > > > Best regards, > > Ganesh > > > > Simon Lessard schrieb: > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> On my side I'll try to work and finish Facelets part > within 2 weeks, fater > >> than that is impossible for me atm. > >> > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> ~ Simon > >> > >> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Werner Punz > <werner.punz@... <mailto:werner.punz@...> > >> <mailto:werner.punz@... > <mailto:werner.punz@...>>> wrote: > >> > >> Matthias Wessendorf schrieb: > >> > >> regarding tree visitor, this may help: > >> > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TRINIDAD-1368 > >> > >> Thanks for the link, I will get it and compare it to > what I have... > >> I assume there wont be too much which I still can > integrated in > >> the PartialVisitContext since I am rather optimized > already and > >> bound by the spec! > >> > >> > >> Werner > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -Matthias > >> > >> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 6:37 AM, Werner > >> Punz<werner.punz@... > <mailto:werner.punz@...> <mailto:werner.punz@... > <mailto:werner.punz@...>>> wrote: > >> > >> Michael Concini schrieb: > >> > >> Wasn't there a plan to have some of the > partial tree > >> traversal work done > >> as part of the Google Summer of Code? I > seem to > >> recall some discussion > >> around this awhile back (don't have time > to dig > >> through the mailing list > >> archives right now to check). Does > anybody remember > >> what the plan was with > >> Google SoC? > >> > >> Interesting question, but I assume I only > have a small > >> subset of the needed > >> functionality implemented, the one we need > for PPR so, > >> I will commit my tomorrow as soon as I have > tested it, > >> whoever wants to do > >> something in GSOC can pick it up and refine > it. But have > >> in mind, my work > >> currently only coveres the area of providing a > >> PartialVisitContext so that I > >> have a complete state for PPR in this area! > >> If someone comes with a better solution I > dont have any > >> problem dropping the > >> code again ;-) > >> > >> > >> Werner > >> > >> > >> > >> Werner Punz wrote: > >> > >> Michael Concini schrieb: > >> > >> All, > >> > >> I thought it might be a good time > to raise the > >> issue of solidifying a > >> plan for the MyFaces 2.0 alpha > release now > >> that we've had a little time to > >> work with the release candidate > draft of the > >> spec. What are the thoughts in > >> the community with respect to > what should be > >> included in an alpha release as > >> well as what the time frame > should be for a > >> release. If we can come up with > >> a target date as well as specific > 2.0 features > >> we want to target for > >> inclusion, that should help in > prioritizing > >> the remaining work. > >> From my end, I'd love to see a > working > >> runtime in some form by the end > >> of August if that's reasonable. > As for > >> content, that is definitely more of > >> an open question. Here is my top > list of what > >> I would like to see be at > >> least partially functional for an > alpha release. > >> -backwards compatibility with JSF > 1.x apps > >> -base support for facelets and > composite > >> components > >> -AJAX support (should hopefully > be in pretty > >> good shape here thanks to > >> Ganesh and team) > >> -System event support > >> -Partial view traversal > >> > >> Thoughts/concerns/objections? > >> > >> -Mike > >> > >> None from my side not sure how far > Ganesh is with > >> his ajax tag! > >> The scripts already are in pretty > good shape and > >> functionalitywise well > >> ahead of the RI ;-) > >> > >> As for partial Tree traversal minor > sidequestion? > >> Has anyone started to > >> work on this, because I have started > to implement > >> the partial visit context > >> (I have to recheck the jira for this, > because I > >> opened an issue for this > >> under partial render response issue > 2116/2241)! > >> > >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-2241 > >> > >> I will commit my code around > tomorrow, it is > >> basically done > >> but needs some testing! > >> > >> > >> > >> Werner > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > Matthias Wessendorf > > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf > > > > |
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