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[B. Perkins]

Has anyone used this site monitoring tool?

http://www.dejal.com/simon/

We've used Whistleblower for years but it doesn't appear to be supported
anymore and we have it running on a first generation G3 running OS 9 so
I need to find a replacement. The powers that be view running that OS as
a vulnerability and we've been told to remove it from the network.

Recommendations for other replacements are welcome (Mac or Windows).

Thanks,

Brad
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[Will Mayall-2]

> Has anyone used this site monitoring tool?
>
> http://www.dejal.com/simon/

I use Simon. In my experience it is flexible, reliable, and easy to use.

Will Mayall



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[Peter Schumacher-2]

Yep. Same for me.

Am 27.02.2009 um 23:39 schrieb Will Mayall:

>> Has anyone used this site monitoring tool?
>>
>> http://www.dejal.com/simon/
>
> I use Simon. In my experience it is flexible, reliable, and easy to  
> use.
>
> Will Mayall

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[B. Perkins]

Will Mayall wrote:
>> Has anyone used this site monitoring tool?
>>
>> http://www.dejal.com/simon/
>>    
>
> I use Simon. In my experience it is flexible, reliable, and easy to use.
>
> Will Mayall
Thanks for the recommendation(s). I'll check it out.

-- Brad
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[B. Perkins]

Will Mayall wrote:
>> Has anyone used this site monitoring tool?
>>
>> http://www.dejal.com/simon/
>>    
>
> I use Simon. In my experience it is flexible, reliable, and easy to use.
>
> Will Mayall
Thanks for the recommendation. I'll check it out.

-- Brad
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[Will Mayall-2]

I've been running a site for a few years using Active4D. Over the past few
days, I am seeing an Active4D error 400 page. This is even though there is a
custom error handing page.

Active4D reports:

"The request could not be fulfilled because it was not properly formatted."

If I clear the cookies for the site, all is well for awhile but soon the
error returns.

So far, I have only seen this error with Safari 4.

Any thoughts before I start to really dig for the cause?


Will



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[Will Mayall-2]

> I've been running a site for a few years using Active4D. Over the past few
> days, I am seeing an Active4D error 400 page. This is even though there is a
> custom error handing page.
>
> Active4D reports:
>
> "The request could not be fulfilled because it was not properly formatted."
>
> If I clear the cookies for the site, all is well for awhile but soon the
> error returns.

This error seems to be associated with a cookie created by Google Analytics.
The cookie is __utmz. If I clear this cookie, Active4D no longer returns an
error.

I've commented out the Google Analytics code. I'm not yet sure if this stops
the problem. It takes about 10 minutes for the error to appear.

If anyone else is using Google Analytics on pages delivered by Active4D and
is using Safari 4, I'd like to hear if you are seeing this error.

Thanks,

Will Mayall



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[aparajita]

> This error seems to be associated with a cookie created by Google  
> Analytics.
> The cookie is __utmz. If I clear this cookie, Active4D no longer  
> returns an
> error.

It's probably my fault. I think I am being too restrictive about what  
I consider to be a valid cookie name.

Regards,

    Aparajita
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    "If you dare to fail, you are bound to succeed."
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[Will Mayall-2]

>> This error seems to be associated with a cookie created by Google
>> Analytics.
>> The cookie is __utmz. If I clear this cookie, Active4D no longer
>> returns an
>> error.
>
> It's probably my fault. I think I am being too restrictive about what
> I consider to be a valid cookie name.

But this is a new error. The site has had Google Analytics running on it for
ages. I did recently update to the newer GA code but I think it uses the
same cookie names. And I have not seen the issue with other browsers.

Also, GA generates cookies with similar names like __utma. These do not seem
to cause a problem.

I'm still suspicious that it is specific to Safari 4.

I've turned off GA for the moment.

Will



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[aparajita]

> Also, GA generates cookies with similar names like __utma. These do  
> not seem
> to cause a problem.

It isn't the name I suspect, it's the value of the cookie.

Regards,

    Aparajita
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[Will Mayall-2]

>> Also, GA generates cookies with similar names like __utma. These do
>> not seem to cause a problem.
>
> It isn't the name I suspect, it's the value of the cookie.

Aha. Here is the value of the cookie as reported by Active4D:

__utmz=126161109.1235950855.1.1.utmcsr=(direct)|utmccn=(direct)|utmcmd=(none
)

Will


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[aparajita]

> Aha. Here is the value of the cookie as reported by Active4D:
>
> __utmz=126161109.1235950855.1.1.utmcsr=(direct)|utmccn=(direct)|
> utmcmd=(none
> )

Is that the cookie that was causing Safari to barf? If you could  
capture the headers (you could use HttpFox in Firefox) and send me the  
raw value of the offending cookie that would help.

Regards,

    Aparajita
    www.aparajitaworld.com

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[Will Mayall-2]

> Is that the cookie that was causing Safari to barf? If you could
> capture the headers (you could use HttpFox in Firefox) and send me the
> raw value of the offending cookie that would help.

This is the full cookie as Active4D sees it:

"__utma=126161109.4375175625679340000.1236040203.1236040203.1236040203.1;
__utmb=126161109.10.10.1236040203; __utmc=126161109;
__utmz=126161109.1236040203.1.1.utmcsr=(direct)|utmccn=(direct)|utmcmd=(none
); ACTIVE4D_SESSIONID=BF1F7B4AB30A4A90; indie=9-55679"

Firefox returns the same cookie. But this is when Active4D is working and
not returning the error page. If it is an issue with the cookie, I'm
guessing that the cookie is different in some way when the error page is
generated.

Currently, I'm unable to reproduce the error on a simple page (I hate that).

Aparajita, unless you have a strong suspicion as to the cause/fix, don't
spend any time on this until I've got a better feel for the problem.

Thanks,

Will



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[B. Perkins]

Brad Perkins wrote:

> Will Mayall wrote:
>  
>>> Has anyone used this site monitoring tool?
>>>
>>> http://www.dejal.com/simon/
>>>    
>>>      
>> I use Simon. In my experience it is flexible, reliable, and easy to use.
>>
>> Will Mayall
>>    
> Thanks for the recommendation(s). I'll check it out.
>
>  

Sorry to resurrect an old thread. I'm finally getting around to setting
this up.

One of the things that Whistleblower could do was directly monitor a 4D
Server. I'm trying to replicate as many of my Whistleblower tests in
Simon as possible.

Does anyone have any idea what WB was sending over the wire to do its
"4D Server" test. More specifically, has anyone recreated a similar test
with Simon by creating and running a custom script. This will be
monitoring 4D Server running on a separate Windows box if that makes any
difference.

Thanks,

Brad

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