Andre Schnabel a écrit :
> Hi Eric,
Hi Andre,
>>Von: eric b <
eric.bachard@...>
>>In fact, it was -probably- already too late, and I should have posted before (too busy, my fault). Since, I verified yesterday : the
>>EducOOo (our non profit association) received less than 300 euros. The fact is, the npa received not enough to help me, so my participation is canceled.
>>That's completely normal.
> Maybe to you - to me it seems rather unfair to many of the other people who apllied for a slot.
I proposed to people who had no correct slot to replace me already, like
the students who participated to the go-oo Google Summer of Code: things
were unclear for them until very recently.
Now, please ask them whether it looks unfair to replace me ;-)
> If your participation is bound to some restrictions, you could have stated this much earlier.
First, any proposal must respect a deadline, and you often have to send
the proposal before the time to book planes/hotels. This is true every
year (due to fly reservation system), for all the conferences I
participate(d).
In the same time (submitting the proposals), I started the discussion
with several people, but finally nobody confirmed the promises.
Last, we (EducOO.org) created a Paypal account at mid september, but the
donation never reached the expected level. That's the point.
> Remember that you even could have applied for imbursements here at the Ooo project (from what I read, you did not).
First, since my request for attending FOSS.in last year was refused
(while we had one conf and one big workout accepted !), nor received any
encouragment, I decided the FOSDEM would be the last time I ask
something to the project.
That's even the reason why the association was created: become
independant from that.
For memory, my proposal, was about do the first step with India and meet
young devs face to face for OpenOffice.org future. The result was: not
accepted, but nothing done instead, and the money never used.
Second, well ... 300 euros (including 2 x50 euros for nights) does not
really cover the price, for most of the people concerned. This is not
what I expect of such a projet like OpenOffice.org.
> the project lead got a session, people maybe prepared to have some chats with the education lead ... and now exactly this project
> lead find, ha cannot attent, because he was to late with looking for imburesements?
FYI, Alexandro, Co-Lead of Education Project will attend Orvieto.
Conclusion: there is no problem.
>>Nevertheless, my absence is not that important
> Maybe to you. But what is with all the other people who prepaed to meet *you*?
If this is really important, they can meet me on IRC, or contact us
using
dev@... ?
That's easy, really.
> Maybe it is not important if you are there or not. But it is (imho) imporant to communicate open and early, under what conditions
> you are there.
Since years, I say exactly the same : regular contributors travels,
should be founded by the project for important confs.
Working hard for OpenOffice.org without being paid, with the goal to
share the knowledge is what I do** since years. That's why I don't fear
to ask.
> André
> (being a little upset)
And me more, because I spent an hour to answer your agressive mail point
by point ...
End of Topic for me (really)
Eric Bachard
Lead,
OpenOffice.org Education Project
**For the one wondering, I listed some of my contributions (all made in
my spare time), on my personnal (and chaotic) wiki page :
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/User:Ericb--
Education Project:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Education_ProjectProjet OOo4Kids :
http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/Main_PageL'association EducOOo :
http://www.educoo.orgBlog :
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