[TECH]:: The sun has gone out - still

[Alan B. Pearce-2]

>Sad.

very, it still had a useable lifetime left.

>But, all our children have to leave hpme and make a life of their own.
>Think of what fun it will be having.

Whizz, around the moon we go again ...

>When did it get lost?

Umm, not exactly sure, sometime during the last 9 weeks I have been away
from my desk (I had other problems in the form of an ailing father to
content with to really notice the date). I do remember seeing about 2 column
inches on it in the Dominion Post, and it also got mentioned on the radio
news in NZ.

I guess the trouble now is that it is a piece of space junk in
semi-permanent orbit around the moon. I think the "End Of Life" plan was to
crash it into the moon like they did with Smart-1, partly to observe the
resultant dust cloud (at least Smart-1 made a better cloud than the NASA
attempt ... ) and partly so there is no junk to dodge on future moon
missions. However it will apparently crash into the moon in about 3 years,
as the gravitational anomalies perturb the orbit until eventually it
crashes.

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[John Ferrell-5]

In spite of the lack of sunspots HF amateur radio propagation has greatly
improved in the last few days. 20m has been especially improved with 15m
opening after a long quiet time. 10m was open in the US most of Saturday
afternoon.

Could the correspondence of propagation and sunspots be over stated?
I am just a user, not an expert!

John Ferrell  W8CCW

"Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, and moderation in pursuit of
justice is no virtue."
-Barry Goldwater
"You don't get harmony when everybody sings the same note."
-Doug Floyd

----- Original Message -----
From: "Russell McMahon" <apptechnz@...>
To: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." <piclist@...>
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 8:04 AM
Subject: Re: [TECH]:: The sun has gone out - still

>>> 2009/7/4 Alan B. Pearce Alan.B.Pearce@...
>>> Looks like the sun may be awakening ...
>>> http://tinyurl.com/nqpox8
>>> Sunspots Ahoy ... my colleagues will be pleased.
> But, no.
> That proved to be a temporay aberration in a consistent assymptote towards
> a
> very dead sun indeed.
> The sun is still continuing it's downwards activity plod. It's very hard
> to
> plod towards zero when you are already bumping along zero.
> And still "the establishment" says largely nowt *.
>
>     http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/SolarCycle/
>
> What part of "gone out" don't we und ...
> No, of course it hasn't.
> But it is surely doing something vastly unusual.
>
> * Not quite true. Some are now saying things like (non verbatim) "while
> the
> trend in manmade global warming is continuing, it is being masked in the
> short term by natural cyclical variations in solar output and we can
> expect
> that warming may not 'get back on track' for a decade ot so but every care
> must be taken to keep up efforts to combat arming so that we aren't caught
> out when the short term solar fluctuation ends ...". All of which may well
> be true. And may not. And nobody really knows. but you won't have any
> problem getting people to take your money and giving an expert opinion in
> either direction.
>
> Very interesting graph though.
>
>
>
> _________________
>
> Apposite abstract here.
> It would be interesting to see what they made of the current cycle.
>
> http://www.springerlink.com/content/576167w517041j37/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> Looks like the sun may be awakening ...
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/nqpox8
>>
>> Sunspots Ahoy ... my colleagues will be pleased.
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[Apptech]

> In spite of the lack of sunspots HF amateur radio propagation has greatly
> improved in the last few days. 20m has been especially improved with 15m
> opening after a long quiet time. 10m was open in the US most of Saturday
> afternoon.

> Could the correspondence of propagation and sunspots be over stated?
> I am just a user, not an expert!

Is that literally 'in the last few days' or was it in late September?
There was a brief burst of sunspot activity from about September 21st
to October 1st.
'All quiet on the Western Front' since then.
There are other solar activity indicators, but they also looked rather quiet.
The solar radio flux and xray levels have not shown the same almost
complete null that the sunspot activity has been showing.


Russell

Sig:
> "Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, and moderation in pursuit of
> justice is no virtue."
> -Barry Goldwater

Sigrep:
I think we all agree with Barry on the meaning of "extremism".
But there may be some divergence on exactly what "liberty" and
"justice" mean :-).
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[Bob Blick-4]

Russell McMahon wrote:
>> John Ferrell wrote:
>> "Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, and moderation in pursuit of
>> justice is no virtue."
>> -Barry Goldwater
>
> Sigrep:
> I think we all agree with Barry on the meaning of "extremism".
> But there may be some divergence on exactly what "liberty" and
> "justice" mean :-).

Other Goldwater quotes are easier to interpret:
"Sometimes I think this country would be better off if we could just saw
off the Eastern Seaboard and let it float out to sea".
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[Vitaliy-14]

Bob Blick wrote:

> Russell McMahon wrote:
>>> John Ferrell wrote:
>>> "Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, and moderation in pursuit
>>> of
>>> justice is no virtue."
>>> -Barry Goldwater
>>
>> Sigrep:
>> I think we all agree with Barry on the meaning of "extremism".
>> But there may be some divergence on exactly what "liberty" and
>> "justice" mean :-).
>
> Other Goldwater quotes are easier to interpret:
> "Sometimes I think this country would be better off if we could just saw
> off the Eastern Seaboard and let it float out to sea".

That's pretty funny. :-)




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[John Gardner-3]

>> "Sometimes I think this country would be better off if we could just saw
>> off the Eastern Seaboard and let it float out to sea".
>
> That's pretty funny. :-)

It was a humorous time - "We will bury you" comes to mind.

Fortunately the resolve did'nt match the rhetoric - Just barely,
on occasion, but we're all still here.

Wiser for it?

Jack
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