[UV] Install as root vs uvadm

[Perry Taylor-2]

I'm getting ready to install UniVerse on a new server and am questioning my past decision to install as uvadm rather than root.  I'm not sure that installing as uvadm has really been of any benefit.  Anyone want to comment on your experiences using uvadm vs root?

Thanks.

Perry
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[John Thompson-15]

Its strictly a security thing.  Installing as uvadm is more secure, and
more in line with typical unix/linux guidelines of only running things as
root when you have to.

It is easier to install as root, but, less secure.  With security, always
comes extra work :)

My two cents...

On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Perry Taylor <perry.taylor@...>wrote:

> I'm getting ready to install UniVerse on a new server and am questioning
> my past decision to install as uvadm rather than root.  I'm not sure that
> installing as uvadm has really been of any benefit.  Anyone want to comment
> on your experiences using uvadm vs root?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Perry
> Perry Taylor
> Senior MV Architect
> ZirMed
> 888 West Market Street, Suite 400
> Louisville, KY 40202
> www.zirmed.com<http://www.zirmed.com/>
>
>
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[Bertrand, Ron]

We had multiple permission problems when we installed universe 11.3 as uvadm. Had to emergency re-install as root.

Ron Bertrand | ANALYST,AP SYS 3
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Subject: [U2] [UV] Install as root vs uvadm

I'm getting ready to install UniVerse on a new server and am questioning my past decision to install as uvadm rather than root.  I'm not sure that installing as uvadm has really been of any benefit.  Anyone want to comment on your experiences using uvadm vs root?

Thanks.

Perry
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ZirMed
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[John Thompson-15]

Assuming you are on a *nix system...

If you want to install as uvadm, do the following:

Create a user called uvsql
(In RHEL, use the GUI.  In AIX, use smit)

Create a user called uvadm.
(In RHEL, use the GUI.  In AIX, use smit)

If a group called uvadm, did not get created with the user, create a group
called uvadm.
(In RHEL, use the GUI.  In AIX, use smit)

Then create the /usr/uv directory.
mkdir /usr/uv

Now set the permissions for it:
chown -R uvadm:uvadm /usr/uv

Now set the sgid, to control the group ownership of files that get created
in the /usr/uv directory.
chmod g+s /usr/uv

Now login as uvadm and run the install process.

When it completes it will have you do the last little bit as root.
Simply login as root and do what it tells you.

Now when you add your account data/files/programs, do the following.

Create your users.
Create a group called uvusers.

Make your directory where your accounts reside.
For example:
mkdir -p /uvdata/accts/SOMEACCOUNT

chown -R username:uvusers /uvdata/accts/SOMEACCOUNT
chmod -R 774 /uvdata/accts/SOMEACCOUNT
chmod g+s /uvdata/accts/SOMEACCOUNT

Wala, permissions problems solved :)

On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Bertrand, Ron <bertrand.r@...> wrote:

> We had multiple permission problems when we installed universe 11.3 as
> uvadm. Had to emergency re-install as root.
>
> Ron Bertrand | ANALYST,AP SYS 3
> ISD, Group Health Cooperative
> PHONE [phone]
> CELL 206-605-9027
> E-MAIL bertrand.r@...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: u2-users-bounces@... [mailto:
> u2-users-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Perry Taylor
> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 11:12 AM
> To: U2 Users List
> Subject: [U2] [UV] Install as root vs uvadm
>
> I'm getting ready to install UniVerse on a new server and am questioning
> my past decision to install as uvadm rather than root.  I'm not sure that
> installing as uvadm has really been of any benefit.  Anyone want to comment
> on your experiences using uvadm vs root?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Perry
> Perry Taylor
> Senior MV Architect
> ZirMed
> 888 West Market Street, Suite 400
> Louisville, KY 40202
> www.zirmed.com<http://www.zirmed.com/>
>
>
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[John Thompson-15]

And yes the Rocket installer, should do all this crap for you, but, it
doesn't, shame on them :(

On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:53 PM, John Thompson <jthompson333@...>wrote:

> Assuming you are on a *nix system...
>
> If you want to install as uvadm, do the following:
>
> Create a user called uvsql
> (In RHEL, use the GUI.  In AIX, use smit)
>
> Create a user called uvadm.
> (In RHEL, use the GUI.  In AIX, use smit)
>
> If a group called uvadm, did not get created with the user, create a group
> called uvadm.
> (In RHEL, use the GUI.  In AIX, use smit)
>
> Then create the /usr/uv directory.
> mkdir /usr/uv
>
> Now set the permissions for it:
> chown -R uvadm:uvadm /usr/uv
>
> Now set the sgid, to control the group ownership of files that get created
> in the /usr/uv directory.
> chmod g+s /usr/uv
>
> Now login as uvadm and run the install process.
>
> When it completes it will have you do the last little bit as root.
> Simply login as root and do what it tells you.
>
> Now when you add your account data/files/programs, do the following.
>
> Create your users.
> Create a group called uvusers.
>
> Make your directory where your accounts reside.
> For example:
> mkdir -p /uvdata/accts/SOMEACCOUNT
>
> chown -R username:uvusers /uvdata/accts/SOMEACCOUNT
> chmod -R 774 /uvdata/accts/SOMEACCOUNT
> chmod g+s /uvdata/accts/SOMEACCOUNT
>
> Wala, permissions problems solved :)
>
> On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Bertrand, Ron <bertrand.r@...> wrote:
>
>> We had multiple permission problems when we installed universe 11.3 as
>> uvadm. Had to emergency re-install as root.
>>
>> Ron Bertrand | ANALYST,AP SYS 3
>> ISD, Group Health Cooperative
>> PHONE [phone]
>> CELL 206-605-9027
>> E-MAIL bertrand.r@...
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: u2-users-bounces@... [mailto:
>> u2-users-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Perry Taylor
>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 11:12 AM
>> To: U2 Users List
>> Subject: [U2] [UV] Install as root vs uvadm
>>
>> I'm getting ready to install UniVerse on a new server and am questioning
>> my past decision to install as uvadm rather than root.  I'm not sure that
>> installing as uvadm has really been of any benefit.  Anyone want to comment
>> on your experiences using uvadm vs root?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Perry
>> Perry Taylor
>> Senior MV Architect
>> ZirMed
>> 888 West Market Street, Suite 400
>> Louisville, KY 40202
>> www.zirmed.com<http://www.zirmed.com/>
>>
>>
>>
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[Perry Taylor-2]

Thanks to all for your thoughts.

Perry

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From: u2-users-bounces@... [mailto:u2-users-bounces@...] On Behalf Of John Thompson
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 12:59 PM
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Subject: Re: [U2] [UV] Install as root vs uvadm

And yes the Rocket installer, should do all this crap for you, but, it
doesn't, shame on them :(

On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:53 PM, John Thompson <jthompson333@...>wrote:

> Assuming you are on a *nix system...
>
> If you want to install as uvadm, do the following:
>
> Create a user called uvsql
> (In RHEL, use the GUI.  In AIX, use smit)
>
> Create a user called uvadm.
> (In RHEL, use the GUI.  In AIX, use smit)
>
> If a group called uvadm, did not get created with the user, create a group
> called uvadm.
> (In RHEL, use the GUI.  In AIX, use smit)
>
> Then create the /usr/uv directory.
> mkdir /usr/uv
>
> Now set the permissions for it:
> chown -R uvadm:uvadm /usr/uv
>
> Now set the sgid, to control the group ownership of files that get created
> in the /usr/uv directory.
> chmod g+s /usr/uv
>
> Now login as uvadm and run the install process.
>
> When it completes it will have you do the last little bit as root.
> Simply login as root and do what it tells you.
>
> Now when you add your account data/files/programs, do the following.
>
> Create your users.
> Create a group called uvusers.
>
> Make your directory where your accounts reside.
> For example:
> mkdir -p /uvdata/accts/SOMEACCOUNT
>
> chown -R username:uvusers /uvdata/accts/SOMEACCOUNT
> chmod -R 774 /uvdata/accts/SOMEACCOUNT
> chmod g+s /uvdata/accts/SOMEACCOUNT
>
> Wala, permissions problems solved :)
>
> On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Bertrand, Ron <bertrand.r@...> wrote:
>
>> We had multiple permission problems when we installed universe 11.3 as
>> uvadm. Had to emergency re-install as root.
>>
>> Ron Bertrand | ANALYST,AP SYS 3
>> ISD, Group Health Cooperative
>> PHONE [phone]
>> CELL 206-605-9027
>> E-MAIL bertrand.r@...
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: u2-users-bounces@... [mailto:
>> u2-users-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Perry Taylor
>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 11:12 AM
>> To: U2 Users List
>> Subject: [U2] [UV] Install as root vs uvadm
>>
>> I'm getting ready to install UniVerse on a new server and am questioning
>> my past decision to install as uvadm rather than root.  I'm not sure that
>> installing as uvadm has really been of any benefit.  Anyone want to comment
>> on your experiences using uvadm vs root?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Perry
>> Perry Taylor
>> Senior MV Architect
>> ZirMed
>> 888 West Market Street, Suite 400
>> Louisville, KY 40202
>> www.zirmed.com<http://www.zirmed.com/>
>>
>>
>>
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[Michael Pflugfelder]

I believe that there is an existing bug with the 11.3 version of Universe that installing as uvadm causes problems.  Still waiting on a fix for this.


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Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 2:38 PM
To: 'U2 Users List'
Subject: Re: [U2] [UV] Install as root vs uvadm

We had multiple permission problems when we installed universe 11.3 as uvadm. Had to emergency re-install as root.

Ron Bertrand | ANALYST,AP SYS 3
ISD, Group Health Cooperative
PHONE [phone]
CELL 206-605-9027
E-MAIL bertrand.r@...

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Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 11:12 AM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: [U2] [UV] Install as root vs uvadm

I'm getting ready to install UniVerse on a new server and am questioning my past decision to install as uvadm rather than root.  I'm not sure that installing as uvadm has really been of any benefit.  Anyone want to comment on your experiences using uvadm vs root?

Thanks.

Perry
Perry Taylor
Senior MV Architect
ZirMed
888 West Market Street, Suite 400
Louisville, KY 40202
www.zirmed.com<http://www.zirmed.com/>



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[Jacques G.]

Hello,


I had this small test program on UV 11.1.3:

 A = 5143546011
 CRT A "(###) ###-####"
 CRT FMT(A,"(###) ###-####")

I was expecting to have:  [phone]   (North American formatted phone)

However I am getting:

514) 354-6011
514) 354-6011

Any idea why ?
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[Richard A. Wilson]

add L or R or T before the 1st (

"L"eft or "R"ight  or "T"ext justification

Rich

Jacques G. wrote:

> Hello,
>
>
> I had this small test program on UV 11.1.3:
>
>  A = 5143546011
>  CRT A "(###) ###-####"
>  CRT FMT(A,"(###) ###-####")
>
> I was expecting to have:  [phone]   (North American formatted phone)
>
> However I am getting:
>
> 514) 354-6011
> 514) 354-6011
>
> Any idea why ?
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[Ed Clark-3]

the parenthesis is part of the syntax, normally surrounding the fill part of the fmt expression and separating it from the justification and descale parts, for example:
        CRT A "R(#20)"
prints A right justified in a field of 20 spaces. It's confusing because that example will also work without the parens. If you want to use "(" as a literal, put parens around the entire fill part:
  CRT A "((###) ###-####)"


On Jan 25, 2012, at 10:55 AM, Jacques G. wrote:

> Hello,
>
>
> I had this small test program on UV 11.1.3:
>
>  A = 5143546011
>  CRT A "(###) ###-####"
>  CRT FMT(A,"(###) ###-####")
>
> I was expecting to have:  [phone]   (North American formatted phone)
>
> However I am getting:
>
> 514) 354-6011
> 514) 354-6011
>
> Any idea why ?
> _______________________________________________
> U2-Users mailing list
> U2-Users@...
> http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users

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