[VOTE] Graduate Click as an Apache TLP

[sabob]

Hi all,

The Apache Click community has voted to request graduation from the
Incubator as a new TLP [1][2].

I would like to start a vote to recommend the graduation of Apache Click
as a Top Level Project to the Board.

Please cast your vote:

[ ] +1 to recommend Click's graduation
[ ] 0 don't care
[ ] -1 no, don't recommend yet, because ...

The vote will be open for 72 hours until Wednesday 2:00 am (UCT).

The following IPMC members have already voted in favor of graduation on
the Click dev list:

   Henning Schmiedehausen
   Will Glass-Husain
   Andrus Adamchik

The proposed board resolution is included below.

Kind regards

Bob

[1]: http://markmail.org/thread/nhhocnq3xufm3lkt
[2]: http://markmail.org/message/pwgo2duk6oens7v6


--- Begin Proposed Board Resolution ---

      WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
      interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
      Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
      Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
      open-source software related to a framework for creating
      page and component oriented web applications, for distribution
      at no charge to the public.

      NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
      Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Click PMC", be and
      hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and
      be it further

      RESOLVED, that the Apache Click PMC be and hereby is
      responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
      related to the Click Web Framework and tools,
      based on software licensed to the Foundation; and be it further

      RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Click" be
      and hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve
      at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the
      Apache Click PMC, and to have primary responsibility for
      management of the projects within the scope of responsibility
      of the Apache Click PMC; and be it further

      RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
      hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
      Apache Click PMC:

        Henning Schmiedehausen (henning@...)
        Will Glass-Husain (wglass@...)
        Malcolm Edgar (medgar@...)
        Bob Schellink (sabob@...)
        Naoki Takezoe (takezoe@...)

      NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Malcolm Edgar be
      and hereby is appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache
      Click, to serve in accordance with and subject to the direction
      of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation
      until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
      disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it
      further

      RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Click PMC be and hereby is
      tasked with the migration and rationalization of the incubating
      Apache Click project; and be it further

      RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the incubating
      Apache Click project encumbered upon the incubator PMC be
      hereafter discharged.

--- End Proposed Board Resolution ---



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[Andrus Adamchik]

+1

On Oct 18, 2009, at 4:39 AM, Bob Schellink wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> The Apache Click community has voted to request graduation from the
> Incubator as a new TLP [1][2].
>
> I would like to start a vote to recommend the graduation of Apache  
> Click as a Top Level Project to the Board.
>
> Please cast your vote:
>
> [ ] +1 to recommend Click's graduation
> [ ] 0 don't care
> [ ] -1 no, don't recommend yet, because ...
>
> The vote will be open for 72 hours until Wednesday 2:00 am (UCT).
>
> The following IPMC members have already voted in favor of graduation  
> on
> the Click dev list:
>
>  Henning Schmiedehausen
>  Will Glass-Husain
>  Andrus Adamchik
>
> The proposed board resolution is included below.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Bob
>
> [1]: http://markmail.org/thread/nhhocnq3xufm3lkt
> [2]: http://markmail.org/message/pwgo2duk6oens7v6
>
>
> --- Begin Proposed Board Resolution ---
>
>     WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
>     interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
>     Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
>     Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
>     open-source software related to a framework for creating
>     page and component oriented web applications, for distribution
>     at no charge to the public.
>
>     NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
>     Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Click PMC", be and
>     hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and
>     be it further
>
>     RESOLVED, that the Apache Click PMC be and hereby is
>     responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
>     related to the Click Web Framework and tools,
>     based on software licensed to the Foundation; and be it further
>
>     RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Click" be
>     and hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve
>     at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the
>     Apache Click PMC, and to have primary responsibility for
>     management of the projects within the scope of responsibility
>     of the Apache Click PMC; and be it further
>
>     RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
>     hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
>     Apache Click PMC:
>
>       Henning Schmiedehausen (henning@...)
>       Will Glass-Husain (wglass@...)
>       Malcolm Edgar (medgar@...)
>       Bob Schellink (sabob@...)
>       Naoki Takezoe (takezoe@...)
>
>     NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Malcolm Edgar be
>     and hereby is appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache
>     Click, to serve in accordance with and subject to the direction
>     of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation
>     until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
>     disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it
>     further
>
>     RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Click PMC be and hereby is
>     tasked with the migration and rationalization of the incubating
>     Apache Click project; and be it further
>
>     RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the incubating
>     Apache Click project encumbered upon the incubator PMC be
>     hereafter discharged.
>
> --- End Proposed Board Resolution ---
>
>
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[Jim Jagielski]

Should I be concerned that the initial size of the PMC is "just"
5 people?

Even so, +1


On Oct 17, 2009, at 9:39 PM, Bob Schellink wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> The Apache Click community has voted to request graduation from the
> Incubator as a new TLP [1][2].
>
> I would like to start a vote to recommend the graduation of Apache  
> Click as a Top Level Project to the Board.
>
> Please cast your vote:
>
> [ ] +1 to recommend Click's graduation
> [ ] 0 don't care
> [ ] -1 no, don't recommend yet, because ...
>
> The vote will be open for 72 hours until Wednesday 2:00 am (UCT).
>
> The following IPMC members have already voted in favor of graduation  
> on
> the Click dev list:
>
>  Henning Schmiedehausen
>  Will Glass-Husain
>  Andrus Adamchik
>
> The proposed board resolution is included below.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Bob
>
> [1]: http://markmail.org/thread/nhhocnq3xufm3lkt
> [2]: http://markmail.org/message/pwgo2duk6oens7v6
>
>
> --- Begin Proposed Board Resolution ---
>
>     WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
>     interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
>     Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
>     Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
>     open-source software related to a framework for creating
>     page and component oriented web applications, for distribution
>     at no charge to the public.
>
>     NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
>     Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Click PMC", be and
>     hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and
>     be it further
>
>     RESOLVED, that the Apache Click PMC be and hereby is
>     responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
>     related to the Click Web Framework and tools,
>     based on software licensed to the Foundation; and be it further
>
>     RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Click" be
>     and hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve
>     at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the
>     Apache Click PMC, and to have primary responsibility for
>     management of the projects within the scope of responsibility
>     of the Apache Click PMC; and be it further
>
>     RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
>     hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
>     Apache Click PMC:
>
>       Henning Schmiedehausen (henning@...)
>       Will Glass-Husain (wglass@...)
>       Malcolm Edgar (medgar@...)
>       Bob Schellink (sabob@...)
>       Naoki Takezoe (takezoe@...)
>
>     NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Malcolm Edgar be
>     and hereby is appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache
>     Click, to serve in accordance with and subject to the direction
>     of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation
>     until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
>     disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it
>     further
>
>     RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Click PMC be and hereby is
>     tasked with the migration and rationalization of the incubating
>     Apache Click project; and be it further
>
>     RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the incubating
>     Apache Click project encumbered upon the incubator PMC be
>     hereafter discharged.
>
> --- End Proposed Board Resolution ---
>
>
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[wglass]

+1

I've been significantly impressed with the quality of the Click
project from both a community and a code standpoint.

This is a small but innovative project that illustrates the benefits
of the Apache way.  Besides Will and Henning's Apache experience,
Malcolm Edgar is also involved in Apache Cayenne.   The committers
come from several locations and are encouraging of users and nw
developers.   New features, which get added on a regular basis, are
coming from both the committers and the larger community.  In general,
the tone of the project is professional and inclusive.  There's really
very little more which this project can learn from the Incubator--
it's clearly time for it to graduate.

A concern which was raised last time Click came up for graduation was
that the project had not added any additional committers beyond the
original pool.  That is no longer true-- a new committer has been
added and I expect will join PMC within a few months.  The PMC remains
on the lookout for repeat contributors who are candidates for becoming
new committers.

Jim notes that there are only 5 PMC members.  I'm not worried about
this-- this is comparable to many other small TLPs.  As more
committers join the PMC this will grow over time.

WILL


On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 6:39 PM, Bob Schellink <sabob1@...> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> The Apache Click community has voted to request graduation from the
> Incubator as a new TLP [1][2].
>
> I would like to start a vote to recommend the graduation of Apache Click as
> a Top Level Project to the Board.
>
> Please cast your vote:
>
> [ ] +1 to recommend Click's graduation
> [ ] 0 don't care
> [ ] -1 no, don't recommend yet, because ...
>
> The vote will be open for 72 hours until Wednesday 2:00 am (UCT).
>
> The following IPMC members have already voted in favor of graduation on
> the Click dev list:
>
>  Henning Schmiedehausen
>  Will Glass-Husain
>  Andrus Adamchik
>
> The proposed board resolution is included below.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Bob
>
> [1]: http://markmail.org/thread/nhhocnq3xufm3lkt
> [2]: http://markmail.org/message/pwgo2duk6oens7v6
>
>
> --- Begin Proposed Board Resolution ---
>
>     WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
>     interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
>     Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
>     Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
>     open-source software related to a framework for creating
>     page and component oriented web applications, for distribution
>     at no charge to the public.
>
>     NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
>     Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Click PMC", be and
>     hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and
>     be it further
>
>     RESOLVED, that the Apache Click PMC be and hereby is
>     responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
>     related to the Click Web Framework and tools,
>     based on software licensed to the Foundation; and be it further
>
>     RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Click" be
>     and hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve
>     at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the
>     Apache Click PMC, and to have primary responsibility for
>     management of the projects within the scope of responsibility
>     of the Apache Click PMC; and be it further
>
>     RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
>     hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
>     Apache Click PMC:
>
>       Henning Schmiedehausen (henning@...)
>       Will Glass-Husain (wglass@...)
>       Malcolm Edgar (medgar@...)
>       Bob Schellink (sabob@...)
>       Naoki Takezoe (takezoe@...)
>
>     NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Malcolm Edgar be
>     and hereby is appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache
>     Click, to serve in accordance with and subject to the direction
>     of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation
>     until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
>     disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it
>     further
>
>     RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Click PMC be and hereby is
>     tasked with the migration and rationalization of the incubating
>     Apache Click project; and be it further
>
>     RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the incubating
>     Apache Click project encumbered upon the incubator PMC be
>     hereafter discharged.
>
> --- End Proposed Board Resolution ---
>
>
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[Craig L Russell]

+1

The initial PMC may be small but as long as the community works well,  
continues to attract users and committers, and follows the Apache Way,  
I have no issues.

Craig

On Oct 17, 2009, at 6:39 PM, Bob Schellink wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> The Apache Click community has voted to request graduation from the
> Incubator as a new TLP [1][2].
>
> I would like to start a vote to recommend the graduation of Apache  
> Click as a Top Level Project to the Board.
>
> Please cast your vote:
>
> [ ] +1 to recommend Click's graduation
> [ ] 0 don't care
> [ ] -1 no, don't recommend yet, because ...
>
> The vote will be open for 72 hours until Wednesday 2:00 am (UCT).
>
> The following IPMC members have already voted in favor of graduation  
> on
> the Click dev list:
>
>  Henning Schmiedehausen
>  Will Glass-Husain
>  Andrus Adamchik
>
> The proposed board resolution is included below.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Bob
>
> [1]: http://markmail.org/thread/nhhocnq3xufm3lkt
> [2]: http://markmail.org/message/pwgo2duk6oens7v6
>
>
> --- Begin Proposed Board Resolution ---
>
>     WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
>     interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
>     Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
>     Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
>     open-source software related to a framework for creating
>     page and component oriented web applications, for distribution
>     at no charge to the public.
>
>     NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
>     Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Click PMC", be and
>     hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and
>     be it further
>
>     RESOLVED, that the Apache Click PMC be and hereby is
>     responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
>     related to the Click Web Framework and tools,
>     based on software licensed to the Foundation; and be it further
>
>     RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Click" be
>     and hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve
>     at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the
>     Apache Click PMC, and to have primary responsibility for
>     management of the projects within the scope of responsibility
>     of the Apache Click PMC; and be it further
>
>     RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
>     hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
>     Apache Click PMC:
>
>       Henning Schmiedehausen (henning@...)
>       Will Glass-Husain (wglass@...)
>       Malcolm Edgar (medgar@...)
>       Bob Schellink (sabob@...)
>       Naoki Takezoe (takezoe@...)
>
>     NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Malcolm Edgar be
>     and hereby is appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache
>     Click, to serve in accordance with and subject to the direction
>     of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation
>     until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
>     disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it
>     further
>
>     RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Click PMC be and hereby is
>     tasked with the migration and rationalization of the incubating
>     Apache Click project; and be it further
>
>     RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the incubating
>     Apache Click project encumbered upon the incubator PMC be
>     hereafter discharged.
>
> --- End Proposed Board Resolution ---
>
>
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[Henning Schmiedehausen-4]

Hello Jim,

many Apache projects have shown that small PMCs can work as effectively (or
sometimes even more effective) than bigger PMCs. In a small PMC, the sense
of responsibility and ownership is different from a 20+ members PMC. I feel
that the Click community has gone tremendously well through the transition
phase in the incubator and is more than ready to graduate to a full TLP.

I very much enjoyed working with Bob, Malcolm, Naoki and all the other
contributors to Click as well as with my fellow mentors on bringing this
project through the incubator. I'm glad that they want to keep me on the
PMC. ;-)

So, as said before: +1 to graduation.

-h



On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 11:00, Jim Jagielski <jim@...> wrote:

> Should I be concerned that the initial size of the PMC is "just"
> 5 people?
>
> Even so, +1
>
>
>
> On Oct 17, 2009, at 9:39 PM, Bob Schellink wrote:
>
>  Hi all,
>>
>> The Apache Click community has voted to request graduation from the
>> Incubator as a new TLP [1][2].
>>
>> I would like to start a vote to recommend the graduation of Apache Click
>> as a Top Level Project to the Board.
>>
>> Please cast your vote:
>>
>> [ ] +1 to recommend Click's graduation
>> [ ] 0 don't care
>> [ ] -1 no, don't recommend yet, because ...
>>
>> The vote will be open for 72 hours until Wednesday 2:00 am (UCT).
>>
>> The following IPMC members have already voted in favor of graduation on
>> the Click dev list:
>>
>>  Henning Schmiedehausen
>>  Will Glass-Husain
>>  Andrus Adamchik
>>
>> The proposed board resolution is included below.
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> [1]: http://markmail.org/thread/nhhocnq3xufm3lkt
>> [2]: http://markmail.org/message/pwgo2duk6oens7v6
>>
>>
>> --- Begin Proposed Board Resolution ---
>>
>>    WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
>>    interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
>>    Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
>>    Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
>>    open-source software related to a framework for creating
>>    page and component oriented web applications, for distribution
>>    at no charge to the public.
>>
>>    NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
>>    Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Click PMC", be and
>>    hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and
>>    be it further
>>
>>    RESOLVED, that the Apache Click PMC be and hereby is
>>    responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
>>    related to the Click Web Framework and tools,
>>    based on software licensed to the Foundation; and be it further
>>
>>    RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Click" be
>>    and hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve
>>    at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the
>>    Apache Click PMC, and to have primary responsibility for
>>    management of the projects within the scope of responsibility
>>    of the Apache Click PMC; and be it further
>>
>>    RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
>>    hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
>>    Apache Click PMC:
>>
>>      Henning Schmiedehausen (henning@...)
>>      Will Glass-Husain (wglass@...)
>>      Malcolm Edgar (medgar@...)
>>      Bob Schellink (sabob@...)
>>      Naoki Takezoe (takezoe@...)
>>
>>    NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Malcolm Edgar be
>>    and hereby is appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache
>>    Click, to serve in accordance with and subject to the direction
>>    of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation
>>    until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
>>    disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it
>>    further
>>
>>    RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Click PMC be and hereby is
>>    tasked with the migration and rationalization of the incubating
>>    Apache Click project; and be it further
>>
>>    RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the incubating
>>    Apache Click project encumbered upon the incubator PMC be
>>    hereafter discharged.
>>
>> --- End Proposed Board Resolution ---
>>
>>
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[Niall Pemberton-2]

+1

Niall

On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 2:39 AM, Bob Schellink <sabob1@...> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> The Apache Click community has voted to request graduation from the
> Incubator as a new TLP [1][2].
>
> I would like to start a vote to recommend the graduation of Apache Click as
> a Top Level Project to the Board.
>
> Please cast your vote:
>
> [ ] +1 to recommend Click's graduation
> [ ] 0 don't care
> [ ] -1 no, don't recommend yet, because ...
>
> The vote will be open for 72 hours until Wednesday 2:00 am (UCT).
>
> The following IPMC members have already voted in favor of graduation on
> the Click dev list:
>
>  Henning Schmiedehausen
>  Will Glass-Husain
>  Andrus Adamchik
>
> The proposed board resolution is included below.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Bob
>
> [1]: http://markmail.org/thread/nhhocnq3xufm3lkt
> [2]: http://markmail.org/message/pwgo2duk6oens7v6
>
>
> --- Begin Proposed Board Resolution ---
>
>     WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
>     interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
>     Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
>     Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
>     open-source software related to a framework for creating
>     page and component oriented web applications, for distribution
>     at no charge to the public.
>
>     NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
>     Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Click PMC", be and
>     hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and
>     be it further
>
>     RESOLVED, that the Apache Click PMC be and hereby is
>     responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
>     related to the Click Web Framework and tools,
>     based on software licensed to the Foundation; and be it further
>
>     RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Click" be
>     and hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve
>     at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the
>     Apache Click PMC, and to have primary responsibility for
>     management of the projects within the scope of responsibility
>     of the Apache Click PMC; and be it further
>
>     RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
>     hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
>     Apache Click PMC:
>
>       Henning Schmiedehausen (henning@...)
>       Will Glass-Husain (wglass@...)
>       Malcolm Edgar (medgar@...)
>       Bob Schellink (sabob@...)
>       Naoki Takezoe (takezoe@...)
>
>     NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Malcolm Edgar be
>     and hereby is appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache
>     Click, to serve in accordance with and subject to the direction
>     of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation
>     until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
>     disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it
>     further
>
>     RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Click PMC be and hereby is
>     tasked with the migration and rationalization of the incubating
>     Apache Click project; and be it further
>
>     RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the incubating
>     Apache Click project encumbered upon the incubator PMC be
>     hereafter discharged.
>
> --- End Proposed Board Resolution ---
>
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[William A. Rowe Jr.]

Bob Schellink wrote:
>
> I would like to start a vote to recommend the graduation of Apache Click
> as a Top Level Project to the Board.
>
> Please cast your vote:
>
> [X] +1 to recommend Click's graduation


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[Martijn Dashorst]

+1, congrats and good luck!

Martijn

On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 3:39 AM, Bob Schellink <sabob1@...> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> The Apache Click community has voted to request graduation from the
> Incubator as a new TLP [1][2].
>
> I would like to start a vote to recommend the graduation of Apache Click as
> a Top Level Project to the Board.
>
> Please cast your vote:
>
> [ ] +1 to recommend Click's graduation
> [ ] 0 don't care
> [ ] -1 no, don't recommend yet, because ...
>
> The vote will be open for 72 hours until Wednesday 2:00 am (UCT).
>
> The following IPMC members have already voted in favor of graduation on
> the Click dev list:
>
>  Henning Schmiedehausen
>  Will Glass-Husain
>  Andrus Adamchik
>
> The proposed board resolution is included below.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Bob
>
> [1]: http://markmail.org/thread/nhhocnq3xufm3lkt
> [2]: http://markmail.org/message/pwgo2duk6oens7v6
>
>
> --- Begin Proposed Board Resolution ---
>
>     WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
>     interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
>     Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
>     Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
>     open-source software related to a framework for creating
>     page and component oriented web applications, for distribution
>     at no charge to the public.
>
>     NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
>     Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Click PMC", be and
>     hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and
>     be it further
>
>     RESOLVED, that the Apache Click PMC be and hereby is
>     responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
>     related to the Click Web Framework and tools,
>     based on software licensed to the Foundation; and be it further
>
>     RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Click" be
>     and hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve
>     at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the
>     Apache Click PMC, and to have primary responsibility for
>     management of the projects within the scope of responsibility
>     of the Apache Click PMC; and be it further
>
>     RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
>     hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
>     Apache Click PMC:
>
>       Henning Schmiedehausen (henning@...)
>       Will Glass-Husain (wglass@...)
>       Malcolm Edgar (medgar@...)
>       Bob Schellink (sabob@...)
>       Naoki Takezoe (takezoe@...)
>
>     NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Malcolm Edgar be
>     and hereby is appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache
>     Click, to serve in accordance with and subject to the direction
>     of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation
>     until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
>     disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it
>     further
>
>     RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Click PMC be and hereby is
>     tasked with the migration and rationalization of the incubating
>     Apache Click project; and be it further
>
>     RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the incubating
>     Apache Click project encumbered upon the incubator PMC be
>     hereafter discharged.
>
> --- End Proposed Board Resolution ---
>
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On Oct 18, 2009, at 5:06 PM, Henning Schmiedehausen wrote:

> Hello Jim,
>
> many Apache projects have shown that small PMCs can work as  
> effectively (or
> sometimes even more effective) than bigger PMCs.

I didn't say I *was* worried... I just asked should I be...   ;)


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[kevan]

+1

--kevan
On Oct 17, 2009, at 9:39 PM, Bob Schellink wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> The Apache Click community has voted to request graduation from the
> Incubator as a new TLP [1][2].
>
> I would like to start a vote to recommend the graduation of Apache  
> Click as a Top Level Project to the Board.
>
> Please cast your vote:
>
> [ ] +1 to recommend Click's graduation
> [ ] 0 don't care
> [ ] -1 no, don't recommend yet, because ...
>
> The vote will be open for 72 hours until Wednesday 2:00 am (UCT).
>
> The following IPMC members have already voted in favor of graduation  
> on
> the Click dev list:
>
>  Henning Schmiedehausen
>  Will Glass-Husain
>  Andrus Adamchik
>
> The proposed board resolution is included below.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Bob
>
> [1]: http://markmail.org/thread/nhhocnq3xufm3lkt
> [2]: http://markmail.org/message/pwgo2duk6oens7v6
>
>
> --- Begin Proposed Board Resolution ---
>
>     WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
>     interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
>     Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
>     Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
>     open-source software related to a framework for creating
>     page and component oriented web applications, for distribution
>     at no charge to the public.
>
>     NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
>     Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Click PMC", be and
>     hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and
>     be it further
>
>     RESOLVED, that the Apache Click PMC be and hereby is
>     responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
>     related to the Click Web Framework and tools,
>     based on software licensed to the Foundation; and be it further
>
>     RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Click" be
>     and hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve
>     at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the
>     Apache Click PMC, and to have primary responsibility for
>     management of the projects within the scope of responsibility
>     of the Apache Click PMC; and be it further
>
>     RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
>     hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
>     Apache Click PMC:
>
>       Henning Schmiedehausen (henning@...)
>       Will Glass-Husain (wglass@...)
>       Malcolm Edgar (medgar@...)
>       Bob Schellink (sabob@...)
>       Naoki Takezoe (takezoe@...)
>
>     NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Malcolm Edgar be
>     and hereby is appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache
>     Click, to serve in accordance with and subject to the direction
>     of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation
>     until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
>     disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it
>     further
>
>     RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Click PMC be and hereby is
>     tasked with the migration and rationalization of the incubating
>     Apache Click project; and be it further
>
>     RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the incubating
>     Apache Click project encumbered upon the incubator PMC be
>     hereafter discharged.
>
> --- End Proposed Board Resolution ---
>
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[Jukka Zitting]

Hi,

-0

I notice you added a new committer some months ago, but he hasn't
committed anything since and is not included in the proposed PMC. In
fact I can't see any new active committers joining the team since the
project started incubation. You do have a healthy-looking patch queue,
so I'm wondering why this is the case.

I couldn't find info on the affiliations of Malcolm, Bob and Naoki;
the active committers of the project. Are you all working on the
project independently? If not, my vote is -1.

BR,

Jukka Zitting

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[Malcolm Edgar-2]

Hi All,
we have been in somewhat of a holding pattern with the next release 2.1.0
wanting for the graduate from the Incubator so we can coordinate a publicity
push (which will grow the community). There is also a book in the wings
written by Frederic Daoud also waiting for the project to graduate so he can
take it to publishers.

With regard to the developer diversity, I am from Australia, Bob is from
South Africa, Naoki is from Japan, and I think Adrian is from US.

regards Malcolm Edgar

On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 12:04 AM, Jukka Zitting <jukka.zitting@...>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> -0
>
> I notice you added a new committer some months ago, but he hasn't
> committed anything since and is not included in the proposed PMC. In
> fact I can't see any new active committers joining the team since the
> project started incubation. You do have a healthy-looking patch queue,
> so I'm wondering why this is the case.
>
> I couldn't find info on the affiliations of Malcolm, Bob and Naoki;
> the active committers of the project. Are you all working on the
> project independently? If not, my vote is -1.
>
> BR,
>
> Jukka Zitting
>
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[sabob]

Hi Jukka,

Adrian has only been given svn permissions in mid September and he has
made some commits[1]. As Malcolm mentioned we're currently in feature
freeze for our next release so that does put a break on things. For the
next Click release most of the tasks are assigned to him [2]. Also note
that he has raised ~20 JIRA's, most with patches that have been applied
to trunk.

Hope this clears things up.

Kind regards

Bob

[1]: http://www.ohloh.net/p/11242/contributors/48286170006745
[2]:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&mode=hide&sorter/order=DESC&sorter/field=priority&resolution=-1&pid=12310902&fixfor=12314164

Jukka Zitting wrote:

> Hi,
>
> -0
>
> I notice you added a new committer some months ago, but he hasn't
> committed anything since and is not included in the proposed PMC. In
> fact I can't see any new active committers joining the team since the
> project started incubation. You do have a healthy-looking patch queue,
> so I'm wondering why this is the case.
>
> I couldn't find info on the affiliations of Malcolm, Bob and Naoki;
> the active committers of the project. Are you all working on the
> project independently? If not, my vote is -1.
>
> BR,
>
> Jukka Zitting

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[Jukka Zitting]

Hi,

On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 3:16 AM, Bob Schellink <sabob1@...> wrote:
> Adrian has only been given svn permissions in mid September and he has made
> some commits[1].

Hmm, I guess his commit notifications haven't been moderated through,
as I couldn't see him on the commit list archive. I assume he'll be a
candidate also for PMC membership if he keeps up contributing.

> As Malcolm mentioned we're currently in feature freeze for
> our next release so that does put a break on things.

Yep, that explains the notable drop in commit activity since July.

> Hope this clears things up.

Yes, thanks for the answers (both you and Malcolm)! I change my vote to:

    [x] +1 to recommend Click's graduation

BR,

Jukka Zitting

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[sabob]

Jukka Zitting wrote:
>
> I assume he'll be a candidate also for PMC membership if he keeps up contributing.

Yes, every few months we'll review our current committers for PMC
membership.

Kind regards

Bob

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[sabob]

Bob Schellink wrote:

>
> I would like to start a vote to recommend the graduation of Apache Click
> as a Top Level Project to the Board.


The vote has passed with 10 +1 votes and no 0 or -1 votes.

Here are the votes:

   +1 Andrus Adamchik
   +1 Jim Jagielski
   +1 Will Glass-Husain
   +1 Craig Russell
   +1 Henning Schmiedehausen
   +1 Niall Pemberton
   +1 William A. Rowe
   +1 Martjin Dashorst
   +1 Kevan Miller
   +1 Jukka Zitting


Thank you for all the support. Next we'll send the proposed resolution
to the board for approval.

Kind regards

Bob

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[Malcolm Edgar-2]

Thank you all for your support.
regards Malcolm Edgar

On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 9:44 PM, Bob Schellink <sabob1@...> wrote:

> Bob Schellink wrote:
>
>
>> I would like to start a vote to recommend the graduation of Apache Click
>> as a Top Level Project to the Board.
>>
>
>
> The vote has passed with 10 +1 votes and no 0 or -1 votes.
>
> Here are the votes:
>
>  +1 Andrus Adamchik
>  +1 Jim Jagielski
>  +1 Will Glass-Husain
>  +1 Craig Russell
>  +1 Henning Schmiedehausen
>  +1 Niall Pemberton
>  +1 William A. Rowe
>  +1 Martjin Dashorst
>  +1 Kevan Miller
>  +1 Jukka Zitting
>
>
> Thank you for all the support. Next we'll send the proposed resolution to
> the board for approval.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Bob
>
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