[VOTE] ready to graduate

[Martin Sebor]

Our mentors as well as a number of IPMC members recently expressed
confidence in stdcxx being ready to graduate out of the incubator
(see the thread starting with msg14476 below).

In order to propose graduation to the Incubator PMC we all need to
formally agree that we are ready. This is a vote to ascertain this
agreement.

[ ] Check here (or use +1) to indicate you agree that stdcxx is
     ready to graduate.

[ ] Check here (or use -1) to indicate that stdcxx is not ready
     to graduate at this point. If you check this please provide
     comments explaining what you feel needs to change in order
     for it to become ready.

Martin

http://www.mail-archive.com/general@.../msg14476.html

[Liviu Nicoara]

+1.

Martin Sebor wrote:

> Our mentors as well as a number of IPMC members recently expressed
> confidence in stdcxx being ready to graduate out of the incubator
> (see the thread starting with msg14476 below).
>
> In order to propose graduation to the Incubator PMC we all need to
> formally agree that we are ready. This is a vote to ascertain this
> agreement.
>
> [ ] Check here (or use +1) to indicate you agree that stdcxx is
>     ready to graduate.
>
> [ ] Check here (or use -1) to indicate that stdcxx is not ready
>     to graduate at this point. If you check this please provide
>     comments explaining what you feel needs to change in order
>     for it to become ready.
>
> Martin
>
> http://www.mail-archive.com/general@.../msg14476.html
>

[Michael van der Westhuizen]

On 7/5/07, Martin Sebor <sebor@...> wrote:

> Our mentors as well as a number of IPMC members recently expressed
> confidence in stdcxx being ready to graduate out of the incubator
> (see the thread starting with msg14476 below).
>
> In order to propose graduation to the Incubator PMC we all need to
> formally agree that we are ready. This is a vote to ascertain this
> agreement.
>
> [ ] Check here (or use +1) to indicate you agree that stdcxx is
>      ready to graduate.

+1

[Andrew Black-5]

+1

Martin Sebor wrote:

> Our mentors as well as a number of IPMC members recently expressed
> confidence in stdcxx being ready to graduate out of the incubator
> (see the thread starting with msg14476 below).
>
> In order to propose graduation to the Incubator PMC we all need to
> formally agree that we are ready. This is a vote to ascertain this
> agreement.
>
> [ ] Check here (or use +1) to indicate you agree that stdcxx is
>     ready to graduate.
>
> [ ] Check here (or use -1) to indicate that stdcxx is not ready
>     to graduate at this point. If you check this please provide
>     comments explaining what you feel needs to change in order
>     for it to become ready.
>
> Martin
>
> http://www.mail-archive.com/general@.../msg14476.html

[William A. Rowe Jr.]

Martin Sebor wrote:
>
> In order to propose graduation to the Incubator PMC we all need to
> formally agree that we are ready. This is a vote to ascertain this
> agreement.
>
> [+1] Check here (or use +1) to indicate you agree that stdcxx is
>      ready to graduate.

With a caviat - I'd expect the crew to run the next possible release
tarball against the RAT tool to make sure every copyright licensing
wrinkle has been ironed out.  That can happen before, or after graduation.

[Martin Sebor]

William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:

> Martin Sebor wrote:
>> In order to propose graduation to the Incubator PMC we all need to
>> formally agree that we are ready. This is a vote to ascertain this
>> agreement.
>>
>> [+1] Check here (or use +1) to indicate you agree that stdcxx is
>>      ready to graduate.
>
> With a caviat - I'd expect the crew to run the next possible release
> tarball against the RAT tool to make sure every copyright licensing
> wrinkle has been ironed out.  That can happen before, or after graduation.

I'm still cleaning up the license headers on trunk. Once we're
all satisfied with the result and after we merge trunk to 4.2.0
I plan to take your suggestion and solicit help from some good
soul on general@... to run the tool for us (if we're still
in incubation).

Btw., does APR use RAT? If so, could you point us at the files
and supporting infrastructure you use to set it all up so we
could see if we could get it done quickly ourselves?

Martin

[William A. Rowe Jr.]

Martin Sebor wrote:
>
> Btw., does APR use RAT? If so, could you point us at the files
> and supporting infrastructure you use to set it all up so we
> could see if we could get it done quickly ourselves?

We never have that I know of - but as APR was written from the ground
up as an httpd project (even httpd fragments were reviewed and adjusted
for their new home) it wasn't quite the concern as a large wholesale
import.  But it sure is an interesting idea, and I plan to bug rdd and
fill you in when I learn more.  Summer is just a horrible time for me
to add more todo's to my list :)

Bill

[Farid Zaripov-2]

> [+] Check here (or use +1) to indicate you agree that stdcxx is
>      ready to graduate.

Farid.

[Mark Brown-17]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sebor@...
> Sent: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 15:14:29 -0600
> To: stdcxx-dev@...
> Subject: [VOTE] ready to graduate
>
> Our mentors as well as a number of IPMC members recently expressed
> confidence in stdcxx being ready to graduate out of the incubator
> (see the thread starting with msg14476 below).
>
> In order to propose graduation to the Incubator PMC we all need to
> formally agree that we are ready. This is a vote to ascertain this
> agreement.
>
> [ ] Check here (or use +1) to indicate you agree that stdcxx is
>      ready to graduate.

I'm not a member of the team so my vote probably doesn't count for much but from what I've seen the project has been ready for some time. So here's my +1 for whatever it's worth. Good luck!

-- Mark

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[Martin Sebor]

William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:

> Martin Sebor wrote:
>> Btw., does APR use RAT? If so, could you point us at the files
>> and supporting infrastructure you use to set it all up so we
>> could see if we could get it done quickly ourselves?
>
> We never have that I know of - but as APR was written from the ground
> up as an httpd project (even httpd fragments were reviewed and adjusted
> for their new home) it wasn't quite the concern as a large wholesale
> import.  But it sure is an interesting idea, and I plan to bug rdd and
> fill you in when I learn more.  Summer is just a horrible time for me
> to add more todo's to my list :)

I hear you. Let me poke around the repository to see if I can
find some other project that uses it and try to learn from it.
So far I've found these two pages:

http://activemq.apache.org/camel/running-rat.html
http://tiles.apache.org/framework/tiles-jsp/rat-report.html

Martin

[Amit Jindal-3]

+1 definitely!

I have no doubt on the stability or the quality of this library. Its rock solid
as it always has been.
Lets get it out!


Amit Jindal
Managing Director
aquevix.com


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [VOTE] ready to graduate
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 15:14:29 -0600
From: Martin Sebor <sebor@...>
Reply-To: stdcxx-dev@...
Organization: Rogue Wave Software
To: stdcxx-dev@...

Our mentors as well as a number of IPMC members recently expressed confidence in
stdcxx being ready to graduate out of the incubator (see the thread starting
with msg14476 below).

In order to propose graduation to the Incubator PMC we all need to formally
agree that we are ready. This is a vote to ascertain this agreement.

[ ] Check here (or use +1) to indicate you agree that stdcxx is
     ready to graduate.

[ ] Check here (or use -1) to indicate that stdcxx is not ready
     to graduate at this point. If you check this please provide
     comments explaining what you feel needs to change in order
     for it to become ready.

Martin

http://www.mail-archive.com/general@.../msg14476.html

[William A. Rowe Jr.]

Amit Jindal wrote:
> +1 definitely!
>
> I have no doubt on the stability or the quality of this library. Its rock solid
> as it always has been.

Keep in mind, the 'graduation' isn't about releasing the library
(we've had one incubating release, and could have more at whatever
point we wanted).

It's about the quality of the community.  While still small, and while
there is still a preponderance of employees of one company, I'll say
my observation is this *community* is rock solid and standing on solid
Apache Software Foundation principals.

To twist your words, lets Let Get Them Out of incubation :)

Bill

[Eric Lemings]

-1!

Nah, I'm just kidding.  +1.

Seriously though, did you really expect to get any dissenting votes from
anyone on the stdcxx-dev mailing list?  :P

Eric.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Sebor [mailto:sebor@...]
> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 3:14 PM
> To: stdcxx-dev@...
> Subject: [VOTE] ready to graduate
>
> Our mentors as well as a number of IPMC members recently expressed
> confidence in stdcxx being ready to graduate out of the incubator
> (see the thread starting with msg14476 below).
>
> In order to propose graduation to the Incubator PMC we all need to
> formally agree that we are ready. This is a vote to ascertain this
> agreement.
>
> [ ] Check here (or use +1) to indicate you agree that stdcxx is
>      ready to graduate.
>
> [ ] Check here (or use -1) to indicate that stdcxx is not ready
>      to graduate at this point. If you check this please provide
>      comments explaining what you feel needs to change in order
>      for it to become ready.
>
> Martin
>
> http://www.mail-archive.com/general@.../msg14476.html
>

[Martin Sebor]

Eric Lemings wrote:
> -1!
>
> Nah, I'm just kidding.  +1.
>
> Seriously though, did you really expect to get any dissenting votes from
> anyone on the stdcxx-dev mailing list?  :P

Thanks for the +1. The vote is important because it formally
establishes a record of a consensus within our community for
those who aren't on the list, such as the Incubator PMC and
the Board.

Martin

>
> Eric.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Martin Sebor [mailto:sebor@...]
>> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 3:14 PM
>> To: stdcxx-dev@...
>> Subject: [VOTE] ready to graduate
>>
>> Our mentors as well as a number of IPMC members recently expressed
>> confidence in stdcxx being ready to graduate out of the incubator
>> (see the thread starting with msg14476 below).
>>
>> In order to propose graduation to the Incubator PMC we all need to
>> formally agree that we are ready. This is a vote to ascertain this
>> agreement.
>>
>> [ ] Check here (or use +1) to indicate you agree that stdcxx is
>>      ready to graduate.
>>
>> [ ] Check here (or use -1) to indicate that stdcxx is not ready
>>      to graduate at this point. If you check this please provide
>>      comments explaining what you feel needs to change in order
>>      for it to become ready.
>>
>> Martin
>>
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/general@.../msg14476.html
>>

[Justin Erenkrantz]

On 7/5/07, Martin Sebor <sebor@...> wrote:

> Our mentors as well as a number of IPMC members recently expressed
> confidence in stdcxx being ready to graduate out of the incubator
> (see the thread starting with msg14476 below).
>
> In order to propose graduation to the Incubator PMC we all need to
> formally agree that we are ready. This is a vote to ascertain this
> agreement.
>
> [X] Check here (or use +1) to indicate you agree that stdcxx is
>      ready to graduate.

+1 for graduation.  Woo-hoo.  -- justin

[Martin Sebor]

I was about to do the tally and close the vote when I realized
I forgot to vote myself, so here's my belated +1:

Martin Sebor wrote:

> Our mentors as well as a number of IPMC members recently expressed
> confidence in stdcxx being ready to graduate out of the incubator
> (see the thread starting with msg14476 below).
>
> In order to propose graduation to the Incubator PMC we all need to
> formally agree that we are ready. This is a vote to ascertain this
> agreement.
>
> [X] Check here (or use +1) to indicate you agree that stdcxx is
>     ready to graduate.

Martin