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[mb-bugs] [MusicBrainz Bug Tracker] #3528: Picard cover art functionality setup/config confusing#3528: Picard cover art functionality setup/config confusing
-------------------------------------+-------------------------------------- Reporter: voiceinsideyou | Owner: luks Type: enhancement | Status: new Priority: normal | Milestone: Component: Picard Tagger | Version: Picard 0.9.0 Keywords: cover art plugin picard | Browser: Os: | -------------------------------------+-------------------------------------- It's quite confusing for new users (even me!) how the Picard cover art functionality works. Picard has options in the options menu for Cover art after initial install, and a "View >> Cover art" option, but unless I'm missing something in my experimentation, these can't actually do anything without the coverart.py plugin also being installed. If you require both, why aren't these options part of the plugin? Or, given its importance to most users, bundled as part of the install, or included in core Picard functionality? At the moment it's very confusing, and even more difficult for less technical users. -- Ticket URL: <http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/ticket/3528> MusicBrainz Bug Tracker <http://musicbrainz.org> MusicBrainz -- the music metadatabase _______________________________________________ Musicbrainz-bugs mailing list Musicbrainz-bugs@... http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-bugs |
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[mb-bugs] Re: [MusicBrainz Bug Tracker] #3528: Picard cover art functionality setup/config confusing#3528: Picard cover art functionality setup/config confusing
-----------------------------+---------------------------------------------- Reporter: voiceinsideyou | Owner: luks Type: enhancement | Status: new Priority: normal | Milestone: Component: Picard Tagger | Version: Picard 0.9.0 Resolution: | Keywords: cover art plugin picard Browser: | Os: -----------------------------+---------------------------------------------- Comment (by chrizoo): I fully support that motion. Thanks -- Ticket URL: <http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/ticket/3528#comment:1> MusicBrainz Bug Tracker <http://musicbrainz.org> MusicBrainz -- the music metadatabase _______________________________________________ Musicbrainz-bugs mailing list Musicbrainz-bugs@... http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-bugs |
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Re: [mb-bugs] [MusicBrainz Bug Tracker] #3528: Picard cover art functionality setup/config confusing#3528: Picard cover art functionality setup/config confusing
-----------------------------+---------------------------------------------- Reporter: voiceinsideyou | Owner: luks Type: enhancement | Status: new Priority: normal | Milestone: Component: Picard Tagger | Version: Picard 0.9.0 Resolution: | Keywords: cover art plugin picard Browser: | Os: -----------------------------+---------------------------------------------- Changes (by outsidecontext): * cc: outsidecontext (added) Comment: Maybe it would indeed be more logical if the cover art options would be moved to a configuration screen for the plugin. The problem here is that cover art handling is tightly integrated in Picard, but is of no use until one installs the cover art plugin to download the cover art. It's even possible that someone adds an alternative cover art plugin for other cover art sources. The general cover art options will still be valid for this second plugin, though. That's why they are located in Picard's main options and visible even if there is no cover art plugin installed. -- Ticket URL: <http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/ticket/3528#comment:2> MusicBrainz Bug Tracker <http://musicbrainz.org> MusicBrainz -- the music metadatabase _______________________________________________ Musicbrainz-bugs mailing list Musicbrainz-bugs@... http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-bugs |
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Re: [mb-bugs] [MusicBrainz Bug Tracker] #3528: Picard cover art functionality setup/config confusing#3528: Picard cover art functionality setup/config confusing
-----------------------------+---------------------------------------------- Reporter: voiceinsideyou | Owner: luks Type: enhancement | Status: new Priority: normal | Milestone: Component: Picard Tagger | Version: Picard 0.9.0 Resolution: | Keywords: cover art plugin picard Browser: | Os: -----------------------------+---------------------------------------------- Comment (by voiceinsideyou): can you elaborate on which aspects are tightly integrated, outsidecontext? You mean with regard to displaying the artwork on details tab and the bottom right box? If that were the case, what's the reason it was moved to a plugin? If it's in the plugin for ease-of-changing/customisation purposes could this plugin be pre-packaged with Picard and version controlled alongside it? -- Ticket URL: <http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/ticket/3528#comment:3> MusicBrainz Bug Tracker <http://musicbrainz.org> MusicBrainz -- the music metadatabase _______________________________________________ Musicbrainz-bugs mailing list Musicbrainz-bugs@... http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-bugs |
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Re: [mb-bugs] [MusicBrainz Bug Tracker] #3528: Picard cover art functionality setup/config confusing#3528: Picard cover art functionality setup/config confusing
-----------------------------+---------------------------------------------- Reporter: voiceinsideyou | Owner: luks Type: enhancement | Status: new Priority: normal | Milestone: Component: Picard Tagger | Version: Picard 0.9.0 Resolution: | Keywords: cover art plugin picard Browser: | Os: -----------------------------+---------------------------------------------- Comment (by outsidecontext): Nearly all of the cover art functionality is integrated into Picard: It handles cover art as part of the metadata, display it in the lower right box and the details tab and saves it to tags or to files. That's why those options are part of Picard. But Picard does not provide the loading of the cover art (actually it can load it from ID3 tags at the moment, but it seldom shows up anywhere). The loading functionality is provided by the plugin. This separation is AFAIK mainly for political reasons. You might want to ask ruaok or luks about details on this. But there are some technical advantages for this, too: The cover art can easily be loaded from various sources as long as there is a plugin for that source. So I think the general separation of internal cover art functionality and separate plugins is fine, but still Picard lacks some more options for proper cover art handling. E.g. the images loaded from tags should be used and it should be possible to change images manually. I think those things where all planned by luks but are not yet implemented. voiceinsideyou, do you have some suggestions on how to improve cover art handling in Picard in general? -- Ticket URL: <http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/ticket/3528#comment:4> MusicBrainz Bug Tracker <http://musicbrainz.org> MusicBrainz -- the music metadatabase _______________________________________________ Musicbrainz-bugs mailing list Musicbrainz-bugs@... http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-bugs |
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Re: [mb-bugs] [MusicBrainz Bug Tracker] #3528: Picard cover art functionality setup/config confusing#3528: Picard cover art functionality setup/config confusing
-----------------------------+---------------------------------------------- Reporter: voiceinsideyou | Owner: luks Type: enhancement | Status: new Priority: normal | Milestone: Component: Picard Tagger | Version: Picard 0.9.0 Resolution: | Keywords: cover art plugin picard Browser: | Os: -----------------------------+---------------------------------------------- Comment (by voiceinsideyou): The problem is that those technical advancements are IMO minor compared to the hassle that has to be gone to by every single user having to install it; locate the appropriate plugins dir for their platform, stuff around downloading a separate file from a page full of other confusing plugins. And then the configuration/options are inconsistent with other plugins, and confusing in general to enable. The fact that these options appear before you even have the plugin installed is silly. It may be separated for political reasons; while retaining core technical support in the app, but if you don't have a plugin installed, options and buttons inside the main UI should certainly not appear (or maybe should be greyed out with a hover "A cover art downloading plugin must be installed" etc); that's just common sense in usability. This plugin is probably unique in that it is functionality wanted by a vast majority of the users, but requires extra work to get it working - this just dissuades new users IMO. It may be separated for political purposes; but I don't remember a conversation ever being had with the community about this; or any note explaining why it's legally necessary (if so). Other media players seem to happily bundle cover art downloading stuff? In any case; rather than ripping it out in the messy way that has currently been done, some consideration needs to go into the usability of what's left over if you don't have the plugin; and how difficult it is to get it working for non-technical users. -- Ticket URL: <http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/ticket/3528#comment:5> MusicBrainz Bug Tracker <http://musicbrainz.org> MusicBrainz -- the music metadatabase _______________________________________________ Musicbrainz-bugs mailing list Musicbrainz-bugs@... http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-bugs |
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Re: [mb-bugs] [MusicBrainz Bug Tracker] #3528: Picard cover art functionality setup/config confusing#3528: Picard cover art functionality setup/config confusing
-----------------------------+---------------------------------------------- Reporter: voiceinsideyou | Owner: luks Type: enhancement | Status: new Priority: normal | Milestone: Component: Picard Tagger | Version: Picard 0.9.0 Resolution: | Keywords: cover art plugin picard Browser: | Os: -----------------------------+---------------------------------------------- Comment (by outsidecontext): This is more or less a dupe of #2622, in which luks explained that he wants to have manual cover art in Picard (which would mean that the general cover art options become useful again). There is a feature request for manual cover art in ticket #2857. What do you think voiceinsideyou, would the ability to add own cover art solve this ticket? -- Ticket URL: <http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/ticket/3528#comment:6> MusicBrainz Bug Tracker <http://musicbrainz.org> MusicBrainz -- the music metadatabase _______________________________________________ Musicbrainz-bugs mailing list Musicbrainz-bugs@... http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-bugs |
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Re: [mb-bugs] [MusicBrainz Bug Tracker] #3528: Picard cover art functionality setup/config confusing#3528: Picard cover art functionality setup/config confusing
-----------------------------+---------------------------------------------- Reporter: voiceinsideyou | Owner: luks Type: enhancement | Status: new Priority: normal | Milestone: Component: Picard Tagger | Version: Picard 0.9.0 Resolution: | Keywords: cover art plugin picard Browser: | Os: -----------------------------+---------------------------------------------- Comment (by voiceinsideyou): Sorry, forgot to reply to this. No, it really isn't the point to be able to do it manually. It's that the process to install a plugin, enable the cover art settings, enable the picture in bottom right corner, and then enable the plugin is far more difficult than it should be. Half of the problem is how difficult plugin setup is; and could potentially be resolved with a proper plugin installation routine in-application, rather than having to make folders in obscure locations (for avergae-joe OSX users, for instance); but I want to consider the bigger usability picture. When manual cover art addition is added, it will be even more confusing for users, so this is just as valid as ever. I'd also like someone to explain the "political" situation before this is closed; preferably in an open fashion so everyone is clear. It seems other applications can ship with cover art downloading functionality from AMZ, so I'd like it explained why we can't? The other difficulty with the plugin being separate is that it's not owner proper by the Picard dev team and currently is out of line with MB server's functionality, leading to more confusion when Picard behaves differently to the server in cover art display. -- Ticket URL: <http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/ticket/3528#comment:7> MusicBrainz Bug Tracker <http://musicbrainz.org> MusicBrainz -- the music metadatabase _______________________________________________ Musicbrainz-bugs mailing list Musicbrainz-bugs@... http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-bugs |
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Re: [mb-bugs] [MusicBrainz Bug Tracker] #3528: Picard cover art functionality setup/config confusing#3528: Picard cover art functionality setup/config confusing
-----------------------------+---------------------------------------------- Reporter: voiceinsideyou | Owner: outsidecontext Type: enhancement | Status: assigned Priority: normal | Milestone: Component: Picard Tagger | Version: Picard 0.9.0 Resolution: | Keywords: cover art plugin picard Browser: | Os: -----------------------------+---------------------------------------------- Changes (by outsidecontext): * owner: luks => outsidecontext * status: new => assigned Comment: Ok, I see the point. This could possibly be streamlined. But as long as the cover art comes from the plugin there is not much we can do about it despite perhaps moving the configuration completely into the plugin, but I would prefer no to do this. Better the other way round: cover art download directly into the application, but that's not my decision. But I will try to clarify this. Replying to [comment:7 voiceinsideyou]: > The other difficulty with the plugin being separate is that it's not owner proper by the Picard dev team and currently is out of line with MB server's functionality, leading to more confusion when Picard behaves differently to the server in cover art display. That surprises me now. Could you explain this better? Currently the cover art plugin is in the same code repository as the rest of Picard and it should support all the cover art sources the server supports. -- Ticket URL: <http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/ticket/3528#comment:8> MusicBrainz Bug Tracker <http://musicbrainz.org> MusicBrainz -- the music metadatabase _______________________________________________ Musicbrainz-bugs mailing list Musicbrainz-bugs@... http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-bugs |
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Re: [mb-bugs] [MusicBrainz Bug Tracker] #3528: Picard cover art functionality setup/config confusing#3528: Picard cover art functionality setup/config confusing
-----------------------------+---------------------------------------------- Reporter: voiceinsideyou | Owner: outsidecontext Type: enhancement | Status: assigned Priority: normal | Milestone: Component: Picard Tagger | Version: Picard 0.9.0 Resolution: | Keywords: cover art plugin picard Browser: | Os: -----------------------------+---------------------------------------------- Comment (by voiceinsideyou): I didn't realize the cover art plugin was in the repo, so apologies on that. The AMZ domain-specific logic is (IMO) incorrect and not the same as the server. It always pulls from .com which leads to bad results and different cover art showing in Picard from that in the Server. I documented this at http://forums.musicbrainz.org/viewtopic.php?pid=4728#p4728 but never got the time to alter the plugin as I suggested. As I note in the thread, MB Server employs better logic in querying the specific AMZ subdomain based on the full AR rather than using the incomplete "ASIN" field and assuming .com will have the art, which is often not correct. http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/browser/mb_server/trunk /cgi-bin/MusicBrainz/Server/CoverArt.pm -- Ticket URL: <http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/ticket/3528#comment:9> MusicBrainz Bug Tracker <http://musicbrainz.org> MusicBrainz -- the music metadatabase _______________________________________________ Musicbrainz-bugs mailing list Musicbrainz-bugs@... http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-bugs |
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Re: [mb-bugs] [MusicBrainz Bug Tracker] #3528: Picard cover art functionality setup/config confusing#3528: Picard cover art functionality setup/config confusing
-----------------------------+---------------------------------------------- Reporter: voiceinsideyou | Owner: outsidecontext Type: enhancement | Status: assigned Priority: normal | Milestone: Component: Picard Tagger | Version: Picard 0.9.0 Resolution: | Keywords: cover art plugin picard Browser: | Os: -----------------------------+---------------------------------------------- Comment (by outsidecontext): That point is true. That's basically what was discussed in ticket #1556, right? Yep, should be changed. -- Ticket URL: <http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/ticket/3528#comment:10> MusicBrainz Bug Tracker <http://musicbrainz.org> MusicBrainz -- the music metadatabase _______________________________________________ Musicbrainz-bugs mailing list Musicbrainz-bugs@... http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-bugs |
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Re: [mb-bugs] [MusicBrainz Bug Tracker] #3528: Picard cover art functionality setup/config confusing#3528: Picard cover art functionality setup/config confusing
-----------------------------+---------------------------------------------- Reporter: voiceinsideyou | Owner: outsidecontext Type: enhancement | Status: assigned Priority: normal | Milestone: Component: Picard Tagger | Version: Picard 0.9.0 Resolution: | Keywords: cover art plugin picard Browser: | Os: -----------------------------+---------------------------------------------- Comment (by voiceinsideyou): Basically, yeah; as long as it's a preferred domain for the buy/info links, but using the domain from the AR for the cover art. It's a side note to this edit really :) -- Ticket URL: <http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/ticket/3528#comment:11> MusicBrainz Bug Tracker <http://musicbrainz.org> MusicBrainz -- the music metadatabase _______________________________________________ Musicbrainz-bugs mailing list Musicbrainz-bugs@... http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-bugs |
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Re: [mb-bugs] [MusicBrainz Bug Tracker] #3528: Picard cover art functionality setup/config confusing#3528: Picard cover art functionality setup/config confusing
-----------------------------+---------------------------------------------- Reporter: voiceinsideyou | Owner: outsidecontext Type: enhancement | Status: assigned Priority: normal | Milestone: Component: Picard Tagger | Version: Picard 0.9.0 Resolution: | Keywords: cover art plugin picard Browser: | Os: -----------------------------+---------------------------------------------- Comment (by VeNoMmx): Well i have downloaded the plugin and placed on the plugins folder, i have it activated on the options from Picard and i see the context menu with the plugins section, but i am not able to display any option after selecting plugins from the context menu, so...i have the plugin and i don't know how it searches for AlbumArt...what am i doing wrong? Thabks! -- Ticket URL: <http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/ticket/3528#comment:12> MusicBrainz Bug Tracker <http://musicbrainz.org> MusicBrainz -- the music metadatabase _______________________________________________ Musicbrainz-bugs mailing list Musicbrainz-bugs@... http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-bugs |
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Re: [mb-bugs] [MusicBrainz Bug Tracker] #3528: Picard cover art functionality setup/config confusing#3528: Picard cover art functionality setup/config confusing
-----------------------------+---------------------------------------------- Reporter: voiceinsideyou | Owner: outsidecontext Type: enhancement | Status: assigned Priority: normal | Milestone: Component: Picard Tagger | Version: Picard 0.9.0 Resolution: | Keywords: cover art plugin picard Browser: | Os: -----------------------------+---------------------------------------------- Comment (by outsidecontext): Seems like you are doing everything correctly. Picard will automatically download cover art for releases with either an Amazon ASIN or a cover art AR. You should enable the cover art display in the "View" menu so you can see the cover art Picard will use and you should define what Picard should do with the cover art in the options. Picard can embed the cover art into tags and save it to a file in the same folder. -- Ticket URL: <http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/ticket/3528#comment:13> MusicBrainz Bug Tracker <http://musicbrainz.org> MusicBrainz -- the music metadatabase _______________________________________________ Musicbrainz-bugs mailing list Musicbrainz-bugs@... http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-bugs |
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Re: [mb-bugs] [MusicBrainz Bug Tracker] #3528: Picard cover art functionality setup/config confusing#3528: Picard cover art functionality setup/config confusing
-----------------------------+---------------------------------------------- Reporter: voiceinsideyou | Owner: outsidecontext Type: enhancement | Status: assigned Priority: normal | Milestone: Component: Picard Tagger | Version: Picard 0.9.0 Resolution: | Keywords: cover art plugin picard Browser: | Os: -----------------------------+---------------------------------------------- Comment (by voiceinsideyou): Yeah, there's nothing to see in the right-click-on-album plugins context menu. -- Ticket URL: <http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/ticket/3528#comment:14> MusicBrainz Bug Tracker <http://musicbrainz.org> MusicBrainz -- the music metadatabase _______________________________________________ Musicbrainz-bugs mailing list Musicbrainz-bugs@... http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-bugs |
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Re: [mb-bugs] [MusicBrainz Bug Tracker] #3528: Picard cover art functionality setup/config confusing#3528: Picard cover art functionality setup/config confusing
-----------------------------+---------------------------------------------- Reporter: voiceinsideyou | Owner: outsidecontext Type: enhancement | Status: assigned Priority: normal | Milestone: Component: Picard Tagger | Version: Picard 0.9.0 Resolution: | Keywords: cover art plugin picard Browser: | Os: -----------------------------+---------------------------------------------- Comment (by VeNoMmx): So, basically the work is done automatically? Or do I have to enable any option aside from the check box on the Options ---> Plugins menu and the View---> Cover Art? Is there a status for this information or how would i know that the plugin is working correctly? -- Ticket URL: <http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/ticket/3528#comment:15> MusicBrainz Bug Tracker <http://musicbrainz.org> MusicBrainz -- the music metadatabase _______________________________________________ Musicbrainz-bugs mailing list Musicbrainz-bugs@... http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-bugs |
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Re: [mb-bugs] [MusicBrainz Bug Tracker] #3528: Picard cover art functionality setup/config confusing#3528: Picard cover art functionality setup/config confusing
-----------------------------+---------------------------------------------- Reporter: voiceinsideyou | Owner: outsidecontext Type: enhancement | Status: assigned Priority: normal | Milestone: Component: Picard Tagger | Version: Picard 0.9.0 Resolution: | Keywords: cover art plugin picard Browser: | Os: -----------------------------+---------------------------------------------- Comment (by voiceinsideyou): Automatically, if the releases inside MusicBrainz have cover art or Amazon links, as outsidecontext says. If you see the art on the bottom right hand side with View -> Cover Art enabled, it's working. -- Ticket URL: <http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/ticket/3528#comment:16> MusicBrainz Bug Tracker <http://musicbrainz.org> MusicBrainz -- the music metadatabase _______________________________________________ Musicbrainz-bugs mailing list Musicbrainz-bugs@... http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-bugs |
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Re: [mb-bugs] [MusicBrainz Bug Tracker] #3528: Picard cover art functionality setup/config confusing#3528: Picard cover art functionality setup/config confusing
-----------------------------+---------------------------------------------- Reporter: voiceinsideyou | Owner: outsidecontext Type: enhancement | Status: assigned Priority: normal | Milestone: Component: Picard Tagger | Version: Picard 0.9.0 Resolution: | Keywords: cover art plugin picard Browser: | Os: -----------------------------+---------------------------------------------- Comment (by murdos): Replying to [comment:15 VeNoMmx]: > So, basically the work is done automatically? Or do I have to enable any option aside from the check box on the Options ---> Plugins menu and the View---> Cover Art? > Is there a status for this information or how would i know that the plugin is working correctly? There are also some cover art option to activate in Options -> Cover Art: "Embed cover images into tags" or "Save cover images as separates files" -- Ticket URL: <http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/ticket/3528#comment:17> MusicBrainz Bug Tracker <http://musicbrainz.org> MusicBrainz -- the music metadatabase _______________________________________________ Musicbrainz-bugs mailing list Musicbrainz-bugs@... http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-bugs |
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Re: [mb-bugs] [MusicBrainz Bug Tracker] #3528: Picard cover art functionality setup/config confusing#3528: Picard cover art functionality setup/config confusing
-----------------------------+---------------------------------------------- Reporter: voiceinsideyou | Owner: outsidecontext Type: enhancement | Status: assigned Priority: normal | Milestone: Component: Picard Tagger | Version: Picard 0.9.0 Resolution: | Keywords: cover art plugin picard Browser: | Os: -----------------------------+---------------------------------------------- Comment (by LxFx): I noticed today that Cover Art Downloader was the problem which kept some albums from loading correctly into picard. (They just got stuck in the loading proces) When I disabled the plugin albums loaded correctly. Great plugin but would be even greater if this got fixed! btw these albums are: - http://musicbrainz.org/album/f9e3b5aa-c75d-45b6-8781-0548c01d6fb5.html - http://musicbrainz.org/release/e7effb70-7c62-4437-88b3-ae4f1070df4c.html Probably some error in the link tot the cover art itself and not in the plugin? I'm not sure but I just wanted to make sure some people know about this. Kirk out. -- Ticket URL: <http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/ticket/3528#comment:18> MusicBrainz Bug Tracker <http://musicbrainz.org> MusicBrainz -- the music metadatabase _______________________________________________ Musicbrainz-bugs mailing list Musicbrainz-bugs@... http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-bugs |
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Re: [mb-bugs] [MusicBrainz Bug Tracker] #3528: Picard cover art functionality setup/config confusing#3528: Picard cover art functionality setup/config confusing
-----------------------------+---------------------------------------------- Reporter: voiceinsideyou | Owner: outsidecontext Type: enhancement | Status: assigned Priority: normal | Milestone: Component: Picard Tagger | Version: Picard 0.9.0 Resolution: | Keywords: cover art plugin picard Browser: | Os: -----------------------------+---------------------------------------------- Comment (by voiceinsideyou): your issue is #2825, rather than this one specifically, I imagine. -- Ticket URL: <http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/ticket/3528#comment:19> MusicBrainz Bug Tracker <http://musicbrainz.org> MusicBrainz -- the music metadatabase _______________________________________________ Musicbrainz-bugs mailing list Musicbrainz-bugs@... http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-bugs |
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