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1.0.7.20090805-Test vs LG enV3: Send PhoneBook to Phone corrupts Contacts

by Shal Farley-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Ok,

Having retrieved the contacts (PhoneBook) from the phone successfully, I exported it to a .csv file. This contained only the handful of contacts I'd entered manually so far. I then opened the .csv in Excel and manually merged in the contacts I'd transcribed out of my old phone.

I also trimmed off the four extra digits BitPim prepended to the phone numbers. This fact now seems relevant.

I then imported this new, larger, .csv into BitPim, and synced it back to the phone (this is, as it happens, exactly the operation for which I obtained BitPim). The sync appears to have gone normally, including the reboot of the phone at the end. See attached log file.

That's where the good news ends. Any attempt to examine any contact in my phone causes the phone to reboot on the spot. Oops. I did find a clue by trying to call my wife: the number presented on the "Calling..." screen consisted of only the last six digits of her phone number. Oh...  Ten minus four is six.

So it seems that those "extra" four digits are actually needed. Since I removed them, the phone took the first four digits (area code plus one more) of the phone number and used them for whatever purpose. And that probably explains the reboot: indexed off the end of some table no doubt.

Ok, so I tediously put the extra four digits back into the spreadsheet. Then imported it to BitPim, and synced with the phone once more.

Partial joy. Now the contact list entries have all 10 digits, and can be used to dial and text message. But attempting to open the contact entry (say, to edit it, or to select a particular phone number to dial) causes the phone to reboot.

So, something is still corrupt. I read the contact list from the phone again, and saved to another .csv file. That file is identical to the file I loaded into BitPim. So whatever went wrong, it is invariant in what can be seen through BitPim's import/export.

Any clues what I should try next? I can't leave the phone in this condition for long, I'll have to find some way to clear out the corruption, even if it means deleting the contacts and reentering them one by one through the phone's keyboard.

-- Shal

1.0.7.20090805-Test
WinXP MCE 2002, Limited User
LGUSBModemDriver_WHQL_Eng_Ver_4.8.1
Verizon LG-VX9200 (enV3)
Straight USB A to microB cable
0:16:55.826 COM6: USB support is not available
0:16:55.826 COM6: Opening port COM6, 115200 baud, timeout 3.000000, hardwareflow 0, softwareflow 0
0:16:55.858 COM6: Open of comm port suceeded
0:16:55.858 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Attempting to contact phone
0:16:55.858 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Retrieving fundamental phone information
0:16:55.858 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Phone serial number
0:16:55.874 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Now in brew mode
0:16:55.874 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Reading group information
0:16:55.921 LG-VX9200 (enV3): stat file pim/pbgroup.dat
0:16:55.937 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Getting file contents 'pim/pbgroup.dat'
0:16:55.937 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Open file 'pim/pbgroup.dat'
0:16:55.967 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Close file
0:16:55.983 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Reading wallpaper-index
0:16:56.030 LG-VX9200 (enV3): stat file dload/image.dat
0:16:56.046 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Getting file contents 'dload/image.dat'
0:16:56.046 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Open file 'dload/image.dat'
0:16:56.076 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Close file
0:16:56.124 LG-VX9200 (enV3): stat file dload/sd_image.dat
0:16:56.140 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Getting file contents 'dload/sd_image.dat'
0:16:56.140 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Open file 'dload/sd_image.dat'
0:16:56.217 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Close file
0:16:56.326 LG-VX9200 (enV3): stat file dload/video.dat
0:16:56.342 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Getting file contents 'dload/video.dat'
0:16:56.342 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Open file 'dload/video.dat'
0:16:56.358 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Close file
0:16:56.437 LG-VX9200 (enV3): stat file dload/sd_video.dat
0:16:56.467 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Getting file contents 'dload/sd_video.dat'
0:16:56.467 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Open file 'dload/sd_video.dat'
0:16:56.483 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Close file
0:16:56.499 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Reading ringtone-index
0:16:56.546 LG-VX9200 (enV3): stat file dload/myringtone.dat
0:16:56.546 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Getting file contents 'dload/myringtone.dat'
0:16:56.546 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Open file 'dload/myringtone.dat'
0:16:56.562 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Close file
0:16:56.624 LG-VX9200 (enV3): stat file dload/mysound.dat
0:16:56.640 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Getting file contents 'dload/mysound.dat'
0:16:56.640 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Open file 'dload/mysound.dat'
0:16:56.671 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Close file
0:16:56.733 LG-VX9200 (enV3): stat file dload/sd_sound.dat
0:16:56.733 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Getting file contents 'dload/sd_sound.dat'
0:16:56.733 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Open file 'dload/sd_sound.dat'
0:16:56.765 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Close file
0:16:56.828 LG-VX9200 (enV3): stat file dload/efs_music.dat
0:16:56.874 LG-VX9200 (enV3): stat file dload/sd_music.dat
0:16:56.890 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Getting file contents 'dload/sd_music.dat'
0:16:56.890 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Open file 'dload/sd_music.dat'
0:16:57.062 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Close file
0:16:57.108 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Fundamentals retrieved
0:16:57.171 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Writing file 'pim/pbgroup.dat' bytes 1140
0:16:57.187 LG-VX9200 (enV3): stat file pim/pbgroup.dat
0:16:57.233 LG-VX9200 (enV3): stat file pim/pbgroup.dat
0:16:57.233 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Deleting file 'pim/pbgroup.dat'
0:16:57.265 LG-VX9200 (enV3): stat file pim/pbgroup.dat
0:16:57.312 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Open file 'pim/pbgroup.dat'
0:16:57.342 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Close file
0:16:57.405 LG-VX9200 (enV3): stat file pim/record_id.dat
0:16:57.421 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Getting file contents 'pim/record_id.dat'
0:16:57.421 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Open file 'pim/record_id.dat'
0:16:57.453 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Close file
0:16:57.515 LG-VX9200 (enV3): stat file pim/pbFavorite.dat
0:16:57.530 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Getting file contents 'pim/pbFavorite.dat'
0:16:57.530 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Open file 'pim/pbFavorite.dat'
0:16:57.546 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Close file
0:16:57.671 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Writing phonebook entries
0:16:57.953 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Writing file 'pim/pbentry.dat' bytes 512512
0:16:57.983 LG-VX9200 (enV3): stat file pim/pbentry.dat
0:16:58.015 LG-VX9200 (enV3): stat file pim/pbentry.dat
0:16:58.030 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Open file 'pim/pbentry.dat'
0:17:01.891 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Close file
0:17:01.905 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Wrote 512512 bytes at 129651 bytes/second
0:17:01.905 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Writing phone numbers
0:17:03.046 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Writing file 'pim/pbnumber.dat' bytes 320000
0:17:03.078 LG-VX9200 (enV3): stat file pim/pbnumber.dat
0:17:03.125 LG-VX9200 (enV3): stat file pim/pbnumber.dat
0:17:03.141 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Open file 'pim/pbnumber.dat'
0:17:05.641 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Close file
0:17:05.673 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Writing addresses
0:17:05.891 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Writing file 'pim/pbaddress.dat' bytes 255000
0:17:05.923 LG-VX9200 (enV3): stat file pim/pbaddress.dat
0:17:05.937 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Open file 'pim/pbaddress.dat'
0:17:07.953 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Close file
0:17:07.953 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Writing ringtone ID
0:17:08.157 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Writing file 'pim/pbRingIdSetAsPath.dat' bytes 255000
0:17:08.188 LG-VX9200 (enV3): stat file pim/pbRingIdSetAsPath.dat
0:17:08.236 LG-VX9200 (enV3): stat file pim/pbRingIdSetAsPath.dat
0:17:08.236 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Open file 'pim/pbRingIdSetAsPath.dat'
0:17:10.250 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Close file
0:17:10.282 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Writing picture ID
0:17:10.486 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Writing file 'pim/pbPictureIdSetAsPath.dat' bytes 255000
0:17:10.516 LG-VX9200 (enV3): stat file pim/pbPictureIdSetAsPath.dat
0:17:10.548 LG-VX9200 (enV3): stat file pim/pbPictureIdSetAsPath.dat
0:17:10.563 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Open file 'pim/pbPictureIdSetAsPath.dat'
0:17:12.845 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Close file
0:17:12.845 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Writing ICE entries
0:17:12.877 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Writing file 'pim/pbiceentry.dat' bytes 264
0:17:12.892 LG-VX9200 (enV3): stat file pim/pbiceentry.dat
0:17:12.938 LG-VX9200 (enV3): stat file pim/pbiceentry.dat
0:17:12.954 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Open file 'pim/pbiceentry.dat'
0:17:12.986 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Close file
0:17:13.017 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Writing speed dials
0:17:13.049 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Writing file 'pim/pbspeed.dat' bytes 300
0:17:13.063 LG-VX9200 (enV3): stat file pim/pbspeed.dat
0:17:13.111 LG-VX9200 (enV3): stat file pim/pbspeed.dat
0:17:13.127 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Deleting file 'pim/pbspeed.dat'
0:17:13.142 LG-VX9200 (enV3): stat file pim/pbspeed.dat
0:17:13.174 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Open file 'pim/pbspeed.dat'
0:17:13.220 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Close file
0:17:13.236 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Writing favorites
0:17:13.267 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Writing file 'pim/pbFavorite.dat' bytes 30
0:17:13.299 LG-VX9200 (enV3): stat file pim/pbFavorite.dat
0:17:13.329 LG-VX9200 (enV3): stat file pim/pbFavorite.dat
0:17:13.345 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Open file 'pim/pbFavorite.dat'
0:17:13.361 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Close file
0:17:13.392 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Writing file 'pim/record_id.dat' bytes 4
0:17:13.424 LG-VX9200 (enV3): stat file pim/record_id.dat
0:17:13.470 LG-VX9200 (enV3): stat file pim/record_id.dat
0:17:13.486 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Open file 'pim/record_id.dat'
0:17:13.502 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Close file
0:17:13.563 BitPim is rebooting your phone for changes to take effect
0:17:13.563 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Taking phone offline
0:17:13.563 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Resetting phone
0:17:28.676 coms:[{'available': True, 'driverdate': (2001, 7, 1), 'description': 'Communications Port (COM1)', 'driverprovider': 'Microsoft', 'driverversion': '5.1.2600.0', 'hardwareinstance': 'ACPI\\PNP0501\\1', 'driverdescription': 'Communications Port', 'active': True, 'class': 'serial', 'name': 'COM1'}, {'available': False, 'driverdate': (2004, 1, 7), 'description': 'Conexant D850 56K V.9x DFVc Modem', 'driverprovider': 'Conexant', 'driverversion': '7.6.0.50', 'hardwareinstance': 'PCI\\VEN_14F1&DEV_2F20&SUBSYS_200F14F1&REV_00\\4&10416D21&0&08F0', 'driverdescription': 'Conexant D850 56K V.9x DFVc Modem', 'active': False, 'class': 'modem', 'name': 'COM3'}, {'available': False, 'driverdate': (2004, 1, 7), 'description': 'Conexant D850 56K V.9x DFVc Modem #2', 'driverprovider': 'Conexant', 'driverversion': '7.6.0.50', 'hardwareinstance': 'PCI\\VEN_14F1&DEV_2F20&SUBSYS_200F14F1&REV_00\\4&10416D21&0&00F0', 'driverdescription': 'Conexant D850 56K V.9x DFVc Modem', 'active': True, 'class': 'modem', 'name': 'COM4'}, {'available': False, 'driverdate': (2007, 4, 3), 'description': 'LGE CDMA USB Modem', 'driverprovider': 'LG Electronics Inc', 'driverversion': '4.8.0.0', 'hardwareinstance': 'USB\\VID_1004&PID_6000_MODEMINTERFACE\\6&63AD97A&0&0000', 'driverdescription': 'LGE CDMA USB Modem', 'active': True, 'class': 'modem', 'name': 'COM5'}, {'available': True, 'driverdate': (2007, 4, 3), 'description': 'LGE CDMA USB Serial Port (COM6)', 'driverprovider': 'LG Electronics Inc.', 'driverversion': '4.8.0.0', 'hardwareinstance': 'USB\\VID_1004&PID_6000_DIAGINTERFACE\\6&63AD97A&0&0000', 'driverdescription': 'LGE CDMA USB Serial Port', 'active': True, 'class': 'serial', 'name': 'COM6'}]
0:17:28.676 Available ports: ['COM6']
0:17:28.676 Available modem ports: []
0:17:28.676 Checking for model: LG-VX9200 (enV 3)
0:17:28.676 Likely ports:['COM6']
0:17:28.676 COM6: USB support is not available
0:17:28.676 COM6: Opening port COM6, 115200 baud, timeout 1.000000, hardwareflow 0, softwareflow 0
0:17:28.691 COM6: Open of comm port suceeded
0:17:28.691 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Attempting to contact phone
0:17:28.801 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Now in brew mode
0:17:29.269 LG-VX9200 (enV3): stat file brew/version.txt
0:17:29.301 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Getting file contents 'brew/version.txt'
0:17:29.301 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Open file 'brew/version.txt'
0:17:29.348 LG-VX9200 (enV3): Close file
0:17:29.519 LG-VX9200 (enV3): stat file nvm/$SYS.ESN
0:17:29.582 Detect Phone result: {'COM6': {'mode_modem': None, 'esn_file': '8097FFD8', 'lgpbinfo': None, 'mode_brew': True, 'firmwareresponse': None, 'esn': '8097FFD8', 'model': 'VX9200', 'brew_version.txt': 'VX9200, VRZ, 08, 3.1.5.145, 172, 14798304, 173, 14799326, 20090313, Created the initial BREW script.', 'firmware_version': None, 'manufacturer': 'LG Electronics Inc'}}
0:17:29.582 Found phone:LG-VX9200 (enV 3) port:'COM6'

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Re: 1.0.7.20090805-Test vs LG enV3: Send PhoneBook to Phone corrupts Contacts

by Lowell Sharrah :: Rate this Message:

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Before you did all this, did you use backup assistant to backup your
contacts?  I was having some issues with BA on a new phone where the contact
list did not download properly.  The tech told me to use Bluetooth and try
and send across a contact person that way.  It worked.  So we knew the phone
would accept a new contact.  He then told me to log into BA as a 'new-user'
and download the contact list that way.  Voila!  The phone now had all the
correct contacts.  I use bitpim also with my enV3 but just for ringtones and
music.   I export the contact list to a zip file just in case I need it at a
future date.  I also use BA (free from VZN for those who have online
accounts) exclusively.  Good luck.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Shal Farley [mailto:shalf@...]
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 5:04 AM
To: bitpim-user@...
Subject: [BitPim-user] 1.0.7.20090805-Test vs LG enV3: Send PhoneBook to
Phone corrupts Contacts

Ok,

Having retrieved the contacts (PhoneBook) from the phone successfully, I
exported it to a .csv file. This contained only the handful of contacts I'd
entered manually so far. I then opened the .csv in Excel and manually merged
in the contacts I'd transcribed out of my old phone.

I also trimmed off the four extra digits BitPim prepended to the phone
numbers. This fact now seems relevant.

I then imported this new, larger, .csv into BitPim, and synced it back to
the phone (this is, as it happens, exactly the operation for which I
obtained BitPim). The sync appears to have gone normally, including the
reboot of the phone at the end. See attached log file.

That's where the good news ends. Any attempt to examine any contact in my
phone causes the phone to reboot on the spot. Oops. I did find a clue by
trying to call my wife: the number presented on the "Calling..." screen
consisted of only the last six digits of her phone number. Oh...  Ten minus
four is six.

So it seems that those "extra" four digits are actually needed. Since I
removed them, the phone took the first four digits (area code plus one more)
of the phone number and used them for whatever purpose. And that probably
explains the reboot: indexed off the end of some table no doubt.

Ok, so I tediously put the extra four digits back into the spreadsheet. Then
imported it to BitPim, and synced with the phone once more.

Partial joy. Now the contact list entries have all 10 digits, and can be
used to dial and text message. But attempting to open the contact entry
(say, to edit it, or to select a particular phone number to dial) causes the
phone to reboot.

So, something is still corrupt. I read the contact list from the phone
again, and saved to another .csv file. That file is identical to the file I
loaded into BitPim. So whatever went wrong, it is invariant in what can be
seen through BitPim's import/export.

Any clues what I should try next? I can't leave the phone in this condition
for long, I'll have to find some way to clear out the corruption, even if it
means deleting the contacts and reentering them one by one through the
phone's keyboard.

-- Shal

1.0.7.20090805-Test
WinXP MCE 2002, Limited User
LGUSBModemDriver_WHQL_Eng_Ver_4.8.1
Verizon LG-VX9200 (enV3)
Straight USB A to microB cable


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Re: 1.0.7.20090805-Test vs LG enV3: Send PhoneBook to Phone corrupts Contacts

by Shal Farley-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Lowell,

>Before you did all this, did you use backup assistant to backup
>your contacts?

No. I haven't enabled data services and as a result can't use BA at all. I'm hoping BitPim is my work-around for this. The good news is that I'd only entered a half-dozen contacts by hand before doing this, so the amount of effort lost (or at risk) is minimal.

>I use bitpim also with my enV3 but just for ringtones and
>music.

I've been able to sync my enV3 with Windows Media Player to put on music. Ringtones I've copied to the phone's microSD directly with a card reader. I haven't tried doing those through BitPim.

-- Shal


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Re: 1.0.7.20090805-Test vs LG enV3: Send PhoneBook to Phone corrupts Contacts

by Mark Condic-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Shal,

I guess that we have to wait until the next version to have some of
these issues resolved.  The last email I had said that they did not
have this phone, so were working, I assume remotely, to add support.

I want to use the "Street, City, State, Zip, Country" feature of this
phone.  Having entered a couple of these entries via the keyboard, I
can confirm that the phone can transfer this information via
Bluetooth, and the vcard feature from phone to phone, and from phone
to computer.

I purchased a small USB Bluetooth for my computer, and I have sent a
single vcard via Bluetooth to my phone.  I have been looking for a
utility that will take a csv, or excel file and create the correct
vcard format.  Anyone know of a shareware/freeware utility for the PC
to make the right format vcard file?

Incase this will help you, here is the format for a vcard:

BEGIN:VCARD
VERSION:2.1
FN:Test Name
N:Test Name
EMAIL;TYPE=internet:email@...
TEL;HOME:8471234567
TEL;CELL:8472345678
TEL;WORK:8473456789
TEL;FAX:8474567890
ADR;WORK:;;123 W. Anywhere Rd;City;Il;60678;
END:VCARD

There are a couple of threads on Howards Forum:
This thread is located at:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1532654&goto=newpost


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Re: 1.0.7.20090805-Test vs LG enV3: Send PhoneBook to Phone corrupts Contacts

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Shal, you don't need data services to use BA.  Either get an online account
(free) with VZN or download it for 1.99.  You should download it either way
and let it backup your contact list while you sleep.  

I would not download ringtones to my phone from VZN ever.  It is easier to
make them with iTunes and then transfer them to the microsd card in the
sounds directory and use them as ringtones.  Have never synched through
windows media player so I don't know what that does.  I transfer full songs
to the microsd card music directory and the phone turns into a small ipod.
It's great!  I picked up a card reader at abc warehouse for 8 bucks.  

Once you transfer the ringtone to the sound directory of the microsd card,
go to music and tones, my sounds, select a ringtone, select 'Set as', select
Contact ID, and find the person.  VOILA!  You have now associated a ringtone
with a person w/o downloading a ringtone or transferring a ringtone to the
phone with BitPim.

-----Original Message-----
From: Shal Farley [mailto:shalf@...]
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 1:16 PM
To: bitpim-user@...
Subject: Re: [BitPim-user] 1.0.7.20090805-Test vs LG enV3: Send PhoneBook to
Phone corrupts Contacts

Lowell,

>Before you did all this, did you use backup assistant to backup
>your contacts?

No. I haven't enabled data services and as a result can't use BA at all. I'm
hoping BitPim is my work-around for this. The good news is that I'd only
entered a half-dozen contacts by hand before doing this, so the amount of
effort lost (or at risk) is minimal.

>I use bitpim also with my enV3 but just for ringtones and
>music.

I've been able to sync my enV3 with Windows Media Player to put on music.
Ringtones I've copied to the phone's microSD directly with a card reader. I
haven't tried doing those through BitPim.

-- Shal


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Parent Message unknown Re: 1.0.7.20090805-Test vs LG enV3: Send PhoneBook to Phone corrupts Contacts

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Mark,

>I guess that we have to wait until the next version to have some of
>these issues resolved.

Of course. I'm just hoping to provide enough information so that it can be the /next/ version, and not further down the line. ;-)

>The last email I had said that they did not have this phone, so
>were working, I assume remotely, to add support.

Alas, I don't speak Python (and my plate is plenty full already) so I can't be more directly helpful.

>I purchased a small USB Bluetooth for my computer, and I have sent a
>single vcard via Bluetooth to my phone.
>...
>Incase this will help you, here is the format for a vcard:

I would not have thought of that. Thanks for the suggestion and for the format info,
that may well prove useful.

-- Shal


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Re: 1.0.7.20090805-Test vs LG enV3: Send PhoneBook to Phone corrupts Contacts

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Lowell,

>Shal, you don't need data services to use BA.  Either get an online account
>(free) with VZN or download it for 1.99.

Then I'm very confused.

I have a MyVerizon account, and read about BA as much as I could. All the instructions lead to downloading the application to the phone directly (over the air). I'm not paying the $5/mo for data services, and I've had the $2/MB option blocked on my phone, so the attempt to download BA to the phone fails at the first step: can't connect via Browse and Download.

I went back into the Verizon store to ask about it and they asserted that even if I unblocked long enough to download BA, it would need to incur per megabyte charges (or unlimited plan) for its nightly backups too. So at that point I went looking for BitPim.

>Have never synched through windows media player so I don't know
>what that does.

It is pretty easy, and it automatically converts the song from whatever format its in to an mp3 in the phone's native sample rate on the fly (possibly saving space on your microSD card). That results in artist and album folders, and even the album artwork, in the phone's My Music menu. Very slick indeed.

With a caveat on the "whatever" -- I couldn't coax it into syncing my m4a files from iTunes, despite installing an add-in and codec that were supposed to fix that. I had to tell iTunes to convert them to .mpg first. Took a while to figure out that was what I needed to do, but iTunes help told me how once I knew what.

-- Shal


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Re: 1.0.7.20090805-Test vs LG enV3: Send PhoneBook to Phone corrupts Contacts

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This is right off VZN'z website. I subscribe to the Nationwide plan so I am
exempt.  This is how I read it.

Backup Assistant is only $1.99 per month, per line. If you register for My
Verizon as the Account Owner, we'll waive the monthly charge for Backup
Assistant.* (That's a $1.99 per month value for each line on your account!)
Visit My Verizon  for details.

* Unless you subscribe to V CAST VPak, V CAST Mobile TV Select Package or
Nationwide Premium Plan, downloading the Backup Assistant application will
require approximately 1 MB of data. Data sent or received will be aggregated
each month, rounded up to the next megabyte and billed at $1.99 per MB.



-----Original Message-----
From: Shal Farley [mailto:shalf@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 12:40 AM
To: bitpim-user@...
Subject: Re: [BitPim-user] 1.0.7.20090805-Test vs LG enV3: Send PhoneBook to
Phone corrupts Contacts

Lowell,

>Shal, you don't need data services to use BA.  Either get an online account
>(free) with VZN or download it for 1.99.

Then I'm very confused.

I have a MyVerizon account, and read about BA as much as I could. All the
instructions lead to downloading the application to the phone directly (over
the air). I'm not paying the $5/mo for data services, and I've had the $2/MB
option blocked on my phone, so the attempt to download BA to the phone fails
at the first step: can't connect via Browse and Download.

I went back into the Verizon store to ask about it and they asserted that
even if I unblocked long enough to download BA, it would need to incur per
megabyte charges (or unlimited plan) for its nightly backups too. So at that
point I went looking for BitPim.

>Have never synched through windows media player so I don't know
>what that does.

It is pretty easy, and it automatically converts the song from whatever
format its in to an mp3 in the phone's native sample rate on the fly
(possibly saving space on your microSD card). That results in artist and
album folders, and even the album artwork, in the phone's My Music menu.
Very slick indeed.

With a caveat on the "whatever" -- I couldn't coax it into syncing my m4a
files from iTunes, despite installing an add-in and codec that were supposed
to fix that. I had to tell iTunes to convert them to .mpg first. Took a
while to figure out that was what I needed to do, but iTunes help told me
how once I knew what.

-- Shal


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Re: 1.0.7.20090805-Test vs LG enV3: Send PhoneBook to Phone corrupts Contacts

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Shal,

A little more information.  XP Bluetooth <Send File> will only
transfer on address entry at a time.

However, I just completed 12 of them, and all of them transferred ok.

Maybe someone out there can help:  We are looking for a program to
generate vcard files from a CSV, or Excel spreadsheet.  Also does any
one know of a program that runs on XP that will transfer multiple
vcard files over bluetooth?

Thanks


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Parent Message unknown Re: 1.0.7.20090805-Test vs LG enV3: Send PhoneBook to Phone corrupts Contacts

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Outlook will transfer the vcards correctly, but you have to run
Windows.  I did it that way, but wasn't happy about it as I hate
Outlook.  Luck.

Scott

Mark Condic wrote:

> Shal,
>
> A little more information.  XP Bluetooth <Send File> will only
> transfer on address entry at a time.
>
> However, I just completed 12 of them, and all of them transferred ok.
>
> Maybe someone out there can help:  We are looking for a program to
> generate vcard files from a CSV, or Excel spreadsheet.  Also does any
> one know of a program that runs on XP that will transfer multiple
> vcard files over bluetooth?
>
> Thanks
>
>
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Parent Message unknown Re: 1.0.7.20090805-Test vs LG enV3: Send PhoneBook to Phone corrupts Contacts

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Heh,

Another interesting symptom of the contact list corruption after sending
from BitPim to the phone: now all my received Text Messages are shown as
"From: #Warranty Center", regardless of who they're actually from. Calls
too, maybe (haven't noticed).

Boy, I sure hope that one goes away if I do something like delete all
the contacts and re-enter them manually. Or maybe just the Warranty
Center entry... ?  Nah, that would probably just move the symptom to the
next corrupt entry.

Maybe for someone sufficiently steeped in the data structures behind the
Contact List this would be a clue as to the nature of the corruption.

-- Shal


On 9/29/2009 1:31 PM, Mark Condic wrote:
>
>  I guess that we have to wait until the next version to have some of
>  these issues resolved.  The last email I had said that they did not
>  have this phone, so were working, I assume remotely, to add support.



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Re: 1.0.7.20090805-Test vs LG enV3: Send PhoneBook to Phone corrupts Contacts

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I wrote:

>Another interesting symptom of the contact list corruption after sending
>from BitPim to the phone: now all my received Text Messages are shown as
>"From: #Warranty Center", regardless of who they're actually from. Calls
>too, maybe (haven't noticed).

Yup, calls too.

>Boy, I sure hope that one goes away if I do something like delete all
>the contacts and re-enter them manually. Or maybe just the Warranty
>Center entry... ?

Further testing shows that it is simpler than that. Erasing and manually re-entering the corrupted contact causes them to be properly identified on calls and text messages.

So, perhaps there's a reverse index from phone number to contact which didn't get updated. Or if the phone searches the contact list at the moment of need then something about the sent contacts causes them to be skipped in the search.

>Maybe for someone sufficiently steeped in the data structures behind the
>Contact List this would be a clue as to the nature of the corruption.

Still hoping...

-- Shal


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