1GB Trash. Permission denied.

[hermanaa-2]

I have almost 1GB Trash in Gnome 'Trash' (Desktop Trash)
I am not allowed to delete it.

I got this Location-info:
trash:///
Location: trash:///_RIKA-DELETE-OK%3F  (a folder in Trash)
          trash:///_RIKA-DELETE-OK%3F/070614 (a file)

I tried to do something about it via the terminal (cmd-line).
But I cant locate 'Trash' (or it's contents).

--how do I delete this trash?

... or how do I find the Trash (and contents)
on the command-line, so I can do something about it.


If I delete via the GUI I get:
Error while deleting.
There was an error deleting PC222481.JPG.
Show more details:
Error removing file: Permission denied
    CANCEL    SKIP-ALL   SKIP

And:
Sorry, could not change the permissions of "P6141423.JPG": Operation not
supported by backend


Herman in Philippines.


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[dotancohen]

2009/7/5 HermanAA <hermanaa@...>:

>
> I have almost 1GB Trash in Gnome 'Trash' (Desktop Trash)
> I am not allowed to delete it.
>
> I got this Location-info:
> trash:///
> Location: trash:///_RIKA-DELETE-OK%3F  (a folder in Trash)
>          trash:///_RIKA-DELETE-OK%3F/070614 (a file)
>
> I tried to do something about it via the terminal (cmd-line).
> But I cant locate 'Trash' (or it's contents).
>
> --how do I delete this trash?
>
> ... or how do I find the Trash (and contents)
> on the command-line, so I can do something about it.
>
>
> If I delete via the GUI I get:
> Error while deleting.
> There was an error deleting PC222481.JPG.
> Show more details:
> Error removing file: Permission denied
>    CANCEL    SKIP-ALL   SKIP
>
> And:
> Sorry, could not change the permissions of "P6141423.JPG": Operation not
> supported by backend
>
>
> Herman in Philippines.
>

Herman, I'm not home right now to check, but look in ~/.config for the
Trash. I think it's there.

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[Tony Arnold-3]

Dotan,

Dotan Cohen wrote:

> 2009/7/5 HermanAA <hermanaa@...>:
>> I have almost 1GB Trash in Gnome 'Trash' (Desktop Trash)
>> I am not allowed to delete it.
>>
>> I got this Location-info:
>> trash:///
>> Location: trash:///_RIKA-DELETE-OK%3F  (a folder in Trash)
>>          trash:///_RIKA-DELETE-OK%3F/070614 (a file)
>>
>> I tried to do something about it via the terminal (cmd-line).
>> But I cant locate 'Trash' (or it's contents).
>>
>> --how do I delete this trash?
>>
>> ... or how do I find the Trash (and contents)
>> on the command-line, so I can do something about it.
>>
>>
>> If I delete via the GUI I get:
>> Error while deleting.
>> There was an error deleting PC222481.JPG.
>> Show more details:
>> Error removing file: Permission denied
>>    CANCEL    SKIP-ALL   SKIP
>>
>> And:
>> Sorry, could not change the permissions of "P6141423.JPG": Operation not
>> supported by backend
>>
>>
>> Herman in Philippines.
>>
>
> Herman, I'm not home right now to check, but look in ~/.config for the
> Trash. I think it's there.

On my system it appears to be in ~/.local/share/Trash

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[Heike C. Zimmerer-5]

HermanAA <hermanaa@...> writes:

> ... or how do I find the Trash (and contents)
> on the command-line, so I can do something about it.

~/.local/share/Trash

(possible alternative location: ~/.config/local/share/Trash)


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[hermanaa-2]

> 2009/7/5 HermanAA <hermanaa@...>:
> >
> > I have almost 1GB Trash in Gnome 'Trash' (Desktop Trash)
> > I am not allowed to delete it.
> >
> > I got this Location-info:
> > trash:///
> > Location: trash:///_RIKA-DELETE-OK%3F  (a folder in Trash)
> >          trash:///_RIKA-DELETE-OK%3F/070614 (a file)
> >
> > I tried to do something about it via the terminal (cmd-line).
> > But I cant locate 'Trash' (or it's contents).
> >
> > --how do I delete this trash?
> >
> > ... or how do I find the Trash (and contents)
> > on the command-line, so I can do something about it.
> >
> >
> > If I delete via the GUI I get:
> > Error while deleting.
> > There was an error deleting PC222481.JPG.
> > Show more details:
> > Error removing file: Permission denied
> >    CANCEL    SKIP-ALL   SKIP
> >
> > And:
> > Sorry, could not change the permissions of "P6141423.JPG": Operation not
> > supported by backend
> >
> >
> > Herman in Philippines.

On Sun, 2009-07-05 at 13:35 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> Herman, I'm not home right now to check, but look in ~/.config for the
> Trash. I think it's there.
>
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None found. I checked ~/.config manually.
In my HOME dir: No 'Trash' folder or file found by 'Search for files'.

Herman in PHL.


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[NoOp-4]

On 07/05/2009 04:53 AM, HermanAA wrote:
....
>
> None found. I checked ~/.config manually.
> In my HOME dir: No 'Trash' folder or file found by 'Search for files'.

$ locate Trash


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[dotancohen]

> On my system it appears to be in ~/.local/share/Trash
>

That's it. I was on a university Windows machine going by memory. Sorry.

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[Robert Holtzman]

On Sun, 5 Jul 2009, Dotan Cohen wrote:

> 2009/7/5 HermanAA <hermanaa@...>:
>>
>> I have almost 1GB Trash in Gnome 'Trash' (Desktop Trash)
>> I am not allowed to delete it.
>>
>> I got this Location-info:
>> trash:///
>> Location: trash:///_RIKA-DELETE-OK%3F  (a folder in Trash)
>>          trash:///_RIKA-DELETE-OK%3F/070614 (a file)
>>
>> I tried to do something about it via the terminal (cmd-line).
>> But I cant locate 'Trash' (or it's contents).
>>
>> --how do I delete this trash?
>>
>> ... or how do I find the Trash (and contents)
>> on the command-line, so I can do something about it.
>>
>>
>> If I delete via the GUI I get:
>> Error while deleting.
>> There was an error deleting PC222481.JPG.
>> Show more details:
>> Error removing file: Permission denied
>>    CANCEL    SKIP-ALL   SKIP
>>
>> And:
>> Sorry, could not change the permissions of "P6141423.JPG": Operation not
>> supported by backend
>>
>>
>> Herman in Philippines.
>>
>
> Herman, I'm not home right now to check, but look in ~/.config for the
> Trash. I think it's there.

Out of curiosity I just looked at ~/.config and see things pertaining to
apps that I deleted long ago and others pertaining to apps currently
installed (but no trash). What is the function of this directory?

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[Steven Susbauer-3]

On Jul 5, 2009, at 1:35 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote:

> Out of curiosity I just looked at ~/.config and see things  
> pertaining to apps that I deleted long ago and others pertaining to  
> apps currently installed (but no trash). What is the function of  
> this directory?

It is used to store configuration information by those applications  
which use it. Essentially .config is preferable to every app using  
their own .app file (which can become very disorganized). These files  
are not removed when you remove an application because they are not  
created by the package itself. If there is an app in there you no  
longer have installed, you can also remove its configuration if you  
like, same for an app which you would like to have reset to an  
unconfigured state.

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[Robert Holtzman]

On Sun, 5 Jul 2009, Steven Susbauer wrote:

>
> On Jul 5, 2009, at 1:35 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote:
>
>> Out of curiosity I just looked at ~/.config and see things
>> pertaining to apps that I deleted long ago and others pertaining to
>> apps currently installed (but no trash). What is the function of
>> this directory?
>
> It is used to store configuration information by those applications
> which use it. Essentially .config is preferable to every app using
> their own .app file (which can become very disorganized). These files
> are not removed when you remove an application because they are not
> created by the package itself. If there is an app in there you no
> longer have installed, you can also remove its configuration if you
> like, same for an app which you would like to have reset to an
> unconfigured state.

That clears it up for me. Thanks.

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[hermanaa-2]

On Sun, 2009-07-05 at 12:23 +0100, Tony Arnold wrote:

> Dotan,
>
> Dotan Cohen wrote:
> > 2009/7/5 HermanAA <hermanaa@...>:
> >> I have almost 1GB Trash in Gnome 'Trash' (Desktop Trash)
> >> I am not allowed to delete it.
> >>
> >> I got this Location-info:
> >> trash:///
> >> Location: trash:///_RIKA-DELETE-OK%3F  (a folder in Trash)
> >>          trash:///_RIKA-DELETE-OK%3F/070614 (a file)
> >>
> >> I tried to do something about it via the terminal (cmd-line).
> >> But I cant locate 'Trash' (or it's contents).
> >>
> >> --how do I delete this trash?
> >>
> >> ... or how do I find the Trash (and contents)
> >> on the command-line, so I can do something about it.
> >>
> >>
> >> If I delete via the GUI I get:
> >> Error while deleting.
> >> There was an error deleting PC222481.JPG.
> >> Show more details:
> >> Error removing file: Permission denied
> >>    CANCEL    SKIP-ALL   SKIP
> >>
> >> And:
> >> Sorry, could not change the permissions of "P6141423.JPG": Operation not
> >> supported by backend
> >>
> >>
> >> Herman in Philippines.
> >>
> >
> > Herman, I'm not home right now to check, but look in ~/.config for the
> > Trash. I think it's there.
>
> On my system it appears to be in ~/.local/share/Trash
>
> Tony.

Thanks Tony!
That did it. Found Trash and contents and (after a little struggle for
the right cmd) deleted the contents of Trash.

...Thank NoOp for: (the GUI 'Find Files' does not show it)
n0jn@bsw:~$ locate Trash
/home/n0jn/.local/share/Trash
/home/n0jn/.local/share/Trash/files
/usr/lib/bonobo/servers/GNOME_Panel_TrashApplet.server
/usr/share/gnome-2.0/ui/GNOME_Panel_TrashApplet.xml
n0jn@bsw:~$
 (I added it to my 'Find Files' folder ...)

And Thanks again Dotan.
.. and some others.

PROBLEM SOLVED.

Herman in PHL.



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[dotancohen]

> Out of curiosity I just looked at ~/.config and see things pertaining to
> apps that I deleted long ago and others pertaining to apps currently
> installed (but no trash). What is the function of this directory?
>

You need to purge the applications, not remove them, to erase those
files. From TFM for apt-get:

remove
    remove is identical to install except that packages are removed
instead of installed. Note the removing a package leaves its
configuration files in system. If a plus sign is appended to the
package name (with no intervening space), the identified package  will
be installed instead of removed.

purge
    purge is identical to remove except that packages are removed and
purged (any configuration files are deleted too).


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[Robert Holtzman]

On Mon, 6 Jul 2009, Dotan Cohen wrote:

>> Out of curiosity I just looked at ~/.config and see things pertaining to
>> apps that I deleted long ago and others pertaining to apps currently
>> installed (but no trash). What is the function of this directory?
>>
>
> You need to purge the applications, not remove them, to erase those
> files. From TFM for apt-get:

I hate to tell you, but when I remove an app, I always use purge.

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[Fatih Bostanci]

Use this command

sudo rm -rf ~/.local/share/Trash/files


On Mon, 06 Jul 2009 11:12:16 +0300, Robert Holtzman <holtzm@...> wrote:

> On Mon, 6 Jul 2009, Dotan Cohen wrote:
>
>>> Out of curiosity I just looked at ~/.config and see things pertaining  
>>> to
>>> apps that I deleted long ago and others pertaining to apps currently
>>> installed (but no trash). What is the function of this directory?
>>>
>>
>> You need to purge the applications, not remove them, to erase those
>> files. From TFM for apt-get:
>
> I hate to tell you, but when I remove an app, I always use purge.
>

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[Michael M. Moore]

On Mon, 2009-07-06 at 09:42 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> > Out of curiosity I just looked at ~/.config and see things pertaining to
> > apps that I deleted long ago and others pertaining to apps currently
> > installed (but no trash). What is the function of this directory?
> >
>
> You need to purge the applications, not remove them, to erase those
> files. From TFM for apt-get:


Actually, purge does not remove ~/.config directories or files.  Neither
apt-get nor aptitude will remove any files from a user's home directory.
Purge (as opposed to remove) will delete system config directories and
files for the package being purged; remove (as opposed to purge) will
not.  Whichever method you use, you will still be left with any config
files in your user's home.  Delete them manually if you don't want them
anymore.

(Note: Dotan, you snipped the attribution for the text you replied to.
I know you didn't write the "Out of curiosity..." section, but I don't
know who did so I can't fix it.  Please try to make sure you are
properly attributing quoted passages in your posts to the list.)

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[Derek Broughton]

Dotan Cohen wrote:

>> Out of curiosity I just looked at ~/.config and see things pertaining to
>> apps that I deleted long ago and others pertaining to apps currently
>> installed (but no trash). What is the function of this directory?
>>
>
> You need to purge the applications, not remove them, to erase those
> files. From TFM for apt-get:
>
...
> purge
>     purge is identical to remove except that packages are removed and
> purged (any configuration files are deleted too).

That's misleading - by "any configuration files" it means "the ones we know
about".  Purging never does anything about the files in ~/, only the ones in
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[Rashkae-2]

Dotan Cohen wrote:

> You need to purge the applications, not remove them, to erase those
> files. From TFM for apt-get:
>
> remove
>     remove is identical to install except that packages are removed
> instead of installed. Note the removing a package leaves its
> configuration files in system. If a plus sign is appended to the
> package name (with no intervening space), the identified package  will
> be installed instead of removed.
>
> purge
>     purge is identical to remove except that packages are removed and
> purged (any configuration files are deleted too).
>
>

I might be wrong about purge, but I think even files in ~/.config would
stay behind.  Keep in mind that configuration files stored in the user
home directory are not installed with the package (those are in /etc
directory) but are instead created on the fly when the user runs the
application.  If purge were to try to remove those files, the package
would need to include a "search and destroy" script in post-uninstall,
which would probably be considered somewhat dangerous.

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[dotancohen]

> I hate to tell you, but when I remove an app, I always use purge.
>

Have you checked that the schelling converter? If it is leaking
chlorocarbonates, even a little, then the config files might not purge
properly.


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[christopher.lemire]

Purge removes system wide configuration, not the users' configuration in his or her home directory.
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> I hate to tell you, but when I remove an app, I always use purge.
>

Have you checked that the schelling converter? If it is leaking
chlorocarbonates, even a little, then the config files might not purge
properly.


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[dotancohen]

> (Note: Dotan, you snipped the attribution for the text you replied to.
> I know you didn't write the "Out of curiosity..." section, but I don't
> know who did so I can't fix it.  Please try to make sure you are
> properly attributing quoted passages in your posts to the list.)
>

i had several users ask that they not be quoted such, for fear that
their email addresses would get harvested. Apparently TFA obfuscate
email addresses in the header, but not in the bodies.

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