2.1.2 release

[Norman Richards]

I haven't seen any issues with CR2, so I think we should get the final  
release process going.  Does anyone need more time for anything?
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[Pete Muir-2]

Sounds good to me!

Pete

On 27 May 2009, at 00:07, Norman Richards wrote:

> I haven't seen any issues with CR2, so I think we should get the  
> final release process going.  Does anyone need more time for  
> anything?_______________________________________________
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Pete Muir napsal(a):

> Sounds good to me!
>
> Pete
>
> On 27 May 2009, at 00:07, Norman Richards wrote:
>
>> I haven't seen any issues with CR2, so I think we should get the final
>> release process going.  Does anyone need more time for
>> anything?_______________________________________________
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>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev
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Cool, we need hurry up with 2.2 release. What is the plan, Pete?


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[Pete Muir-2]

On 28 May 2009, at 13:56, Marek Novotny wrote:

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> Pete Muir napsal(a):
>> Sounds good to me!
>>
>> Pete
>>
>> On 27 May 2009, at 00:07, Norman Richards wrote:
>>
>>> I haven't seen any issues with CR2, so I think we should get the  
>>> final
>>> release process going.  Does anyone need more time for
>>> anything?_______________________________________________
>>> seam-dev mailing list
>>> seam-dev@...
>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev
>>
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>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev
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> Cool, we need hurry up with 2.2 release. What is the plan, Pete?

As soon as Norman releases 2.1.2, we should identify the critical  
issues for 2.2 (Drools 5 support is the only one I know of), and then  
set a release schedule.

NB Really, 2.2 will be a minor release, we are just bumping the  
version number due to the Drools change.

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Pete Muir napsal(a):

>
> On 28 May 2009, at 13:56, Marek Novotny wrote:
>
> Pete Muir napsal(a):
>>>> Sounds good to me!
>>>>
>>>> Pete
>>>>
>>>> On 27 May 2009, at 00:07, Norman Richards wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I haven't seen any issues with CR2, so I think we should get the final
>>>>> release process going.  Does anyone need more time for
>>>>> anything?_______________________________________________
>>>>> seam-dev mailing list
>>>>> seam-dev@...
>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev
>
> Cool, we need hurry up with 2.2 release. What is the plan, Pete?
>
>> As soon as Norman releases 2.1.2, we should identify the critical issues
>> for 2.2 (Drools 5 support is the only one I know of), and then set a
>> release schedule.
>
>> NB Really, 2.2 will be a minor release, we are just bumping the version
>> number due to the Drools change.
>
>
>
>

Agree, plus get jbpm integration into individual jar. There was also
question, if we can upgrade the spring integration to 2.5.x instead of
2.0.x.

WDYT?

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[Pete Muir-2]

On 28 May 2009, at 14:02, Marek Novotny wrote:

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> Pete Muir napsal(a):
>>
>> On 28 May 2009, at 13:56, Marek Novotny wrote:
>>
>> Pete Muir napsal(a):
>>>>> Sounds good to me!
>>>>>
>>>>> Pete
>>>>>
>>>>> On 27 May 2009, at 00:07, Norman Richards wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I haven't seen any issues with CR2, so I think we should get  
>>>>>> the final
>>>>>> release process going.  Does anyone need more time for
>>>>>> anything?_______________________________________________
>>>>>> seam-dev mailing list
>>>>>> seam-dev@...
>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>> seam-dev@...
>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev
>>
>> Cool, we need hurry up with 2.2 release. What is the plan, Pete?
>>
>>> As soon as Norman releases 2.1.2, we should identify the critical  
>>> issues
>>> for 2.2 (Drools 5 support is the only one I know of), and then set a
>>> release schedule.
>>
>>> NB Really, 2.2 will be a minor release, we are just bumping the  
>>> version
>>> number due to the Drools change.
>>
>>
>>
>>
> Agree, plus get jbpm integration into individual jar.

This isn't happening any more - as I'm sure you recall SOA-P no longer  
needs Seam/jBPM4 integration...

> There was also
> question, if we can upgrade the spring integration to 2.5.x instead of
> 2.0.x.

Yes, I think this is fine.

Mike Y or Marius, any comment?

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> WDYT?
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Pete Muir napsal(a):

>
> On 28 May 2009, at 14:02, Marek Novotny wrote:
>
> Pete Muir napsal(a):
>>>>
>>>> On 28 May 2009, at 13:56, Marek Novotny wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Pete Muir napsal(a):
>>>>>>> Sounds good to me!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pete
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 27 May 2009, at 00:07, Norman Richards wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I haven't seen any issues with CR2, so I think we should get the
>>>>>>>> final
>>>>>>>> release process going.  Does anyone need more time for
>>>>>>>> anything?_______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> seam-dev mailing list
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>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev
>>>>
>>>> Cool, we need hurry up with 2.2 release. What is the plan, Pete?
>>>>
>>>>> As soon as Norman releases 2.1.2, we should identify the critical
>>>>> issues
>>>>> for 2.2 (Drools 5 support is the only one I know of), and then set a
>>>>> release schedule.
>>>>
>>>>> NB Really, 2.2 will be a minor release, we are just bumping the version
>>>>> number due to the Drools change.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
> Agree, plus get jbpm integration into individual jar.
>
>> This isn't happening any more - as I'm sure you recall SOA-P no longer
>> needs Seam/jBPM4 integration...

I know that it was "canceled", but anyway I thought that it could be
done doesn't matter what SOA-P choose.

https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBSEAM-4079 is still in JIRA for
2.2.0.CR1 ;-)

>
> There was also
> question, if we can upgrade the spring integration to 2.5.x instead of
> 2.0.x.
>
>> Yes, I think this is fine.
>
>> Mike Y or Marius, any comment?
>
>
>
> WDYT?
>

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[youngm]

I believe we can safely bump Spring to 2.5.

Mike

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> Pete Muir napsal(a):
>>
>> On 28 May 2009, at 13:56, Marek Novotny wrote:
>>
>> Pete Muir napsal(a):
>>>>> Sounds good to me!
>>>>>
>>>>> Pete
>>>>>
>>>>> On 27 May 2009, at 00:07, Norman Richards wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I haven't seen any issues with CR2, so I think we should get the final
>>>>>> release process going.  Does anyone need more time for
>>>>>> anything?_______________________________________________
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>>
>> Cool, we need hurry up with 2.2 release. What is the plan, Pete?
>>
>>> As soon as Norman releases 2.1.2, we should identify the critical issues
>>> for 2.2 (Drools 5 support is the only one I know of), and then set a
>>> release schedule.
>>
>>> NB Really, 2.2 will be a minor release, we are just bumping the version
>>> number due to the Drools change.
>>
>>
>>
>>
> Agree, plus get jbpm integration into individual jar. There was also
> question, if we can upgrade the spring integration to 2.5.x instead of
> 2.0.x.
>
> WDYT?
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[Dan Allen (mojavelinux)]

There was also
question, if we can upgrade the spring integration to 2.5.x instead of
2.0.x.

I've been using Seam together with Spring 2.5 for a long time. There really is no conflicts...and what is nice is that you get the Spring ELResolver (instead of the VariableResolver) in your hands for tighter integration.

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[sanne.grinovero]

Hi,
about library versions I'm wondering why doesn't Seam bundle the
latest hibernate 3.3.x ?

I guess it was a good thing to keep the same version as JBoss AS 4.2,
but since 5 is out these reason could be reconsidered.

Hibernate Search 3.1.0 is available since months and has many
improvements over 3.0.1, but it requires an up-to-date hibernate core.

Sanne

2009/5/28 Dan Allen <dan.j.allen@...>:

>
>>
>>> There was also
>>> question, if we can upgrade the spring integration to 2.5.x instead of
>>> 2.0.x.
>
> I've been using Seam together with Spring 2.5 for a long time. There really
> is no conflicts...and what is nice is that you get the Spring ELResolver
> (instead of the VariableResolver) in your hands for tighter integration.
>
> -Dan
>
> --
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[Pete Muir-2]

Right, we should do this update?

Sanne, do you want to submit a patch to a JIRA?

On 28 May 2009, at 22:38, Sanne Grinovero wrote:

> Hi,
> about library versions I'm wondering why doesn't Seam bundle the
> latest hibernate 3.3.x ?
>
> I guess it was a good thing to keep the same version as JBoss AS 4.2,
> but since 5 is out these reason could be reconsidered.
>
> Hibernate Search 3.1.0 is available since months and has many
> improvements over 3.0.1, but it requires an up-to-date hibernate core.
>
> Sanne
>
> 2009/5/28 Dan Allen <dan.j.allen@...>:
>>
>>>
>>>> There was also
>>>> question, if we can upgrade the spring integration to 2.5.x  
>>>> instead of
>>>> 2.0.x.
>>
>> I've been using Seam together with Spring 2.5 for a long time.  
>> There really
>> is no conflicts...and what is nice is that you get the Spring  
>> ELResolver
>> (instead of the VariableResolver) in your hands for tighter  
>> integration.
>>
>> -Dan
>>
>> --
>> Dan Allen
>> Senior Software Engineer, Red Hat | Author of Seam in Action
>>
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>> http://mojavelinux.com/seaminaction
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[Denis Forveille]

Upgrading to Hibernate 3.3.1 will force to add slf4j libs and having
both sl4fj and commons-logging jars with the current version of Seam.
So if Seam is packaged with Hibernate 3.3.1, why not updating Seam to
use slf4j instead of commons-logging?

I am currently using seam 2.1.2 + hibernate 3.3.1 + slf4j + log4j +
jcl-over-slf4j.jar (just for seam...) and everything works fine. Would
be cool to drop jcl-over-slf4j.jar ..



Pete Muir wrote:

> Right, we should do this update?
>
> Sanne, do you want to submit a patch to a JIRA?
>
> On 28 May 2009, at 22:38, Sanne Grinovero wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> about library versions I'm wondering why doesn't Seam bundle the
>> latest hibernate 3.3.x ?
>>
>> I guess it was a good thing to keep the same version as JBoss AS 4.2,
>> but since 5 is out these reason could be reconsidered.
>>
>> Hibernate Search 3.1.0 is available since months and has many
>> improvements over 3.0.1, but it requires an up-to-date hibernate core.
>>
>> Sanne
>>
>> 2009/5/28 Dan Allen <dan.j.allen@...>:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> There was also
>>>>> question, if we can upgrade the spring integration to 2.5.x
>>>>> instead of
>>>>> 2.0.x.
>>>
>>> I've been using Seam together with Spring 2.5 for a long time. There
>>> really
>>> is no conflicts...and what is nice is that you get the Spring
>>> ELResolver
>>> (instead of the VariableResolver) in your hands for tighter
>>> integration.
>>>
>>> -Dan
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dan Allen
>>> Senior Software Engineer, Red Hat | Author of Seam in Action
>>>
>>> http://mojavelinux.com
>>> http://mojavelinux.com/seaminaction
>>> http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Dan
>>>
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[sanne.grinovero]

Sure, thanks.
I've opened JBSEAM-4201, please edit it about the Fix version and give
me some directions about the logging libraries.
I'll try to attach a patch next weekend.

Sanne

2009/5/29 Pete Muir <pmuir@...>:

> Right, we should do this update?
>
> Sanne, do you want to submit a patch to a JIRA?
>
> On 28 May 2009, at 22:38, Sanne Grinovero wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> about library versions I'm wondering why doesn't Seam bundle the
>> latest hibernate 3.3.x ?
>>
>> I guess it was a good thing to keep the same version as JBoss AS 4.2,
>> but since 5 is out these reason could be reconsidered.
>>
>> Hibernate Search 3.1.0 is available since months and has many
>> improvements over 3.0.1, but it requires an up-to-date hibernate core.
>>
>> Sanne
>>
>> 2009/5/28 Dan Allen <dan.j.allen@...>:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> There was also
>>>>> question, if we can upgrade the spring integration to 2.5.x instead of
>>>>> 2.0.x.
>>>
>>> I've been using Seam together with Spring 2.5 for a long time. There
>>> really
>>> is no conflicts...and what is nice is that you get the Spring ELResolver
>>> (instead of the VariableResolver) in your hands for tighter integration.
>>>
>>> -Dan
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dan Allen
>>> Senior Software Engineer, Red Hat | Author of Seam in Action
>>>
>>> http://mojavelinux.com
>>> http://mojavelinux.com/seaminaction
>>> http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Dan
>>>
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>>> basis, personal or other work matters can sometimes keep me away
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>>> week,
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[Pete Muir-2]

On 29 May 2009, at 00:12, Denis Forveille wrote:

> Upgrading to Hibernate 3.3.1 will force to add slf4j libs and having  
> both sl4fj and commons-logging jars with the current version of Seam.
> So if Seam is packaged with Hibernate 3.3.1, why not updating Seam  
> to use slf4j instead of commons-logging?

Seam doesn't use commons-logging, so I don't quite see the problem (it  
uses log4j, and if not available, JUL).

You're probably thinking of richfaces or something...

>
>
> I am currently using seam 2.1.2 + hibernate 3.3.1 + slf4j + log4j +  
> jcl-over-slf4j.jar (just for seam...) and everything works fine.  
> Would be cool to drop jcl-over-slf4j.jar ..
>
>
>
> Pete Muir wrote:
>> Right, we should do this update?
>>
>> Sanne, do you want to submit a patch to a JIRA?
>>
>> On 28 May 2009, at 22:38, Sanne Grinovero wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> about library versions I'm wondering why doesn't Seam bundle the
>>> latest hibernate 3.3.x ?
>>>
>>> I guess it was a good thing to keep the same version as JBoss AS  
>>> 4.2,
>>> but since 5 is out these reason could be reconsidered.
>>>
>>> Hibernate Search 3.1.0 is available since months and has many
>>> improvements over 3.0.1, but it requires an up-to-date hibernate  
>>> core.
>>>
>>> Sanne
>>>
>>> 2009/5/28 Dan Allen <dan.j.allen@...>:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> There was also
>>>>>> question, if we can upgrade the spring integration to 2.5.x  
>>>>>> instead of
>>>>>> 2.0.x.
>>>>
>>>> I've been using Seam together with Spring 2.5 for a long time.  
>>>> There really
>>>> is no conflicts...and what is nice is that you get the Spring  
>>>> ELResolver
>>>> (instead of the VariableResolver) in your hands for tighter  
>>>> integration.
>>>>
>>>> -Dan
>>>>
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