2.10pre7 - call for RPM and Fink packagers

[Ross Scanlon]

I've updated the control and rules file in svn.

How is the version number changed in debian/changelog to reflect the current svn version?

Cheers
Ross


On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:51:52 +0200
Guenther Meyer <d.s.e@...> wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 06:17:21PM +1000, Ross Scanlon wrote:
> > Ok, so I've got the gpsdrive package section of the control file down to the following:
> >
> > This is only for the gpsdrive binary package.  I've re-ordered some of the Recommends and Suggests as I understand it Recommends should be other packages that enhance gpsdrive whereas Suggests are packages that can do work with gpsdrive.
> >
> that looks really good!
>
> >
> >
> > Now my quandary, if I don't install openstreetmap-mapnik-world-boundaries gpsdrive crashes.
> >
> > So therefore really openstreetmap-mapnik-world-boundaries is a dependency for gpsdrive, I know it's actually required for mapnik and it's mapnik that's crashing and causing gpsdrive to crash but it's not installed automatically by libmapnik0.5
> >
> > Do I include it as a dependency or do we modify gpsdrive to check if it's there and if not then don't use mapnik.
> >
> I would prefer to just add the dependency for the 2.10 release.
> in the long-term all the mapnik-stuff has to be changed anyway...

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[Joerg Ostertag (Tettnang)]

On Wednesday 05 August 2009, Ross Scanlon wrote:

> Hi Jon,
>
> Everywhere tonight.
>
> Have a look at:
>
> http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/gpsdrive/index.php?title=8.04_manual
>
> To install the osm side of things you would only need to carry out steps
> 3,4 and 5.
>
> The rest can be done using deb's and you will probably find if you have
> gpsdrive running that most of it is already in place.

I see that this is a lengthly list of things to do for Ubuntu. Wouldn't it be
good to have all these things automated inside .deb packages? If someone
having an Ubuntu can have a look at this and add some automation to the
packages would be great.

For filling the postgis database you can also use the script
   mapnik-osm-updater.sh --all-planet-geofabrik=europe/germany
which is located in the
  openstreetmap-utils*.deb
package. This might ease things.

Joerg
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[Joerg Ostertag (Tettnang)]

On Wednesday 05 August 2009, Ross Scanlon wrote:

> On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 18:17:21 +1000
>
> Ross Scanlon <info@...> wrote:
> > Now my quandary, if I don't install openstreetmap-mapnik-world-boundaries
> > gpsdrive crashes.
> >
> > So therefore really openstreetmap-mapnik-world-boundaries is a dependency
> > for gpsdrive, I know it's actually required for mapnik and it's mapnik
> > that's crashing and causing gpsdrive to crash but it's not installed
> > automatically by libmapnik0.5
> >
> > Do I include it as a dependency or do we modify gpsdrive to check if it's
> > there and if not then don't use mapnik.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Ross
>
> Actually I think I'll answer this myself.
>
> Three lines of code in mapnik.cpp (an else statement and an assignment to a
> variable) solve this problem so I've included it and uploaded it to svn.
>
> gpsdrive will now check for the existance of openstreetmap-world-boundaries
> if there then a normal startup with mapnik continues. If not then mapnik is
> disabled and gpsdrive starts normally.

Strange that this is needed, since in older installations it simply didn't
display the worldmap if it didn't exist.

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[Joerg Ostertag (Tettnang)]

On Wednesday 05 August 2009, Guenther Meyer wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 06:17:21PM +1000, Ross Scanlon wrote:
> > Ok, so I've got the gpsdrive package section of the control file down to
> > the following:
> >
> > This is only for the gpsdrive binary package.  I've re-ordered some of
> > the Recommends and Suggests as I understand it Recommends should be other
> > packages that enhance gpsdrive whereas Suggests are packages that can do
> > work with gpsdrive.
>
> that looks really good!
>
> > Now my quandary, if I don't install openstreetmap-mapnik-world-boundaries
> > gpsdrive crashes.
> >
> > So therefore really openstreetmap-mapnik-world-boundaries is a dependency
> > for gpsdrive, I know it's actually required for mapnik and it's mapnik
> > that's crashing and causing gpsdrive to crash but it's not installed
> > automatically by libmapnik0.5
> >
> > Do I include it as a dependency or do we modify gpsdrive to check if it's
> > there and if not then don't use mapnik.
>
> I would prefer to just add the dependency for the 2.10 release.
> in the long-term all the mapnik-stuff has to be changed anyway...

I hope, that in the long term we will not need the seperate world-boundaries
and all coastlines will be included in the postgis-database.

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[Joerg Ostertag (Tettnang)]

On Wednesday 05 August 2009, Ross Scanlon wrote:
> Ok, so I've got the gpsdrive package section of the control file down to
> the following:

Thanks for sorting this. Could you please send me an attachment with the new
File?

> Now my quandary, if I don't install openstreetmap-mapnik-world-boundaries
> gpsdrive crashes.
>
> So therefore really openstreetmap-mapnik-world-boundaries is a dependency
> for gpsdrive, I know it's actually required for mapnik and it's mapnik
> that's crashing and causing gpsdrive to crash but it's not installed
> automatically by libmapnik0.5

Please check if it also crashes If you set usemapnik=0 in the config?

> Do I include it as a dependency or do we modify gpsdrive to check if it's
> there and if not then don't use mapnik.

Best would be to add a check in prior (inside GpsDrive-mapnik.cpp) and not
have GpsDrive crash.

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[Joerg Ostertag (Tettnang)]

On Thursday 06 August 2009, Ross Scanlon wrote:
> I've updated the control and rules file in svn.
>
> How is the version number changed in debian/changelog to reflect the
> current svn version?

It's done with the scripts in
        http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/utils/packaging/

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[Jon Reynolds-2]

On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 07:03:17AM +0200, Joerg Ostertag wrote:

> On Wednesday 05 August 2009, Ross Scanlon wrote:
> > Hi Jon,
> >
> > Everywhere tonight.
> >
> > Have a look at:
> >
> > http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/gpsdrive/index.php?title=8.04_manual
> >
> > To install the osm side of things you would only need to carry out steps
> > 3,4 and 5.
> >
> > The rest can be done using deb's and you will probably find if you have
> > gpsdrive running that most of it is already in place.
>
> I see that this is a lengthly list of things to do for Ubuntu. Wouldn't it be
> good to have all these things automated inside .deb packages? If someone
> having an Ubuntu can have a look at this and add some automation to the
> packages would be great.
>
> For filling the postgis database you can also use the script
>    mapnik-osm-updater.sh --all-planet-geofabrik=europe/germany
> which is located in the
>   openstreetmap-utils*.deb
> package. This might ease things.
>
> Joerg
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Yeah I had a look at the link and was a little bewildered at the things
I was going to have to do... haven't got round to it yet. Never used
postgresql before.

If in Ubuntu I do an apt-get install gpsdrive it brings
http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/gpsdrive

So to use OSM data, do I need PostgreSQL installed? That's not showing
up as a dependency... all a bit over my head tbh.

Jon
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[Ross Scanlon]

On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:10:04 +0200
Joerg Ostertag <Joerg@...> wrote:

> On Thursday 06 August 2009, Ross Scanlon wrote:
> > I've updated the control and rules file in svn.
> >
> > How is the version number changed in debian/changelog to reflect the
> > current svn version?
>
> It's done with the scripts in
> http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/utils/packaging/
>
> Joerg
>

So how do I use those locally?

And how is that going to alter svn if I do a commit afterwards?

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[Joerg Ostertag (Tettnang)]

On Thursday 06 August 2009, Ross Scanlon wrote:

> On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:10:04 +0200
>
> Joerg Ostertag <Joerg@...> wrote:
> > On Thursday 06 August 2009, Ross Scanlon wrote:
> > > I've updated the control and rules file in svn.
> > >
> > > How is the version number changed in debian/changelog to reflect the
> > > current svn version?
> >
> > It's done with the scripts in
> > http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/utils/packaging/
> >
> > Joerg
>
> So how do I use those locally?
>
> And how is that going to alter svn if I do a commit afterwards?

The tool svn_log2debian_changelog.pl
is called inside the buildcluster-script to adapt the changelog. The
automatism here does a svn co, svn up, then an update_changelog and then an
debuild. This way I always have the newest changelog from svn in the package.
And then from time to time I do a svn commit of the file debian/changelog.
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[Joerg Ostertag (Tettnang)]

On Thursday 06 August 2009, Jon Reynolds wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 07:03:17AM +0200, Joerg Ostertag wrote:
> > On Wednesday 05 August 2009, Ross Scanlon wrote:
> > > Hi Jon,
> > >
> > > Everywhere tonight.
> > >
> > > Have a look at:
> > >
> > > http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/gpsdrive/index.php?title=8.04_man
> > >ual
> > >
> > > To install the osm side of things you would only need to carry out
> > > steps 3,4 and 5.
> > >
> > > The rest can be done using deb's and you will probably find if you have
> > > gpsdrive running that most of it is already in place.
> >
> > I see that this is a lengthly list of things to do for Ubuntu. Wouldn't
> > it be good to have all these things automated inside .deb packages? If
> > someone having an Ubuntu can have a look at this and add some automation
> > to the packages would be great.
> >
> > For filling the postgis database you can also use the script
> >    mapnik-osm-updater.sh --all-planet-geofabrik=europe/germany
> > which is located in the
> >   openstreetmap-utils*.deb
> > package. This might ease things.
> >
> > Joerg
> > _______________________________________________
> > GPSdrive mailing list
> > GPSdrive@...
> > http://lists.gpsdrivers.org/mailman/listinfo/gpsdrive
>
> Yeah I had a look at the link and was a little bewildered at the things
> I was going to have to do... haven't got round to it yet. Never used
> postgresql before.
>
> If in Ubuntu I do an apt-get install gpsdrive it brings
> http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/gpsdrive
>
> So to use OSM data, do I need PostgreSQL installed? That's not showing
> up as a dependency... all a bit over my head tbh.

Sorry; there is no OSM support in HARDY. The postgis packages are not
available for HARDY, so we compiled these Packages without OSM Support.

See the hardy-patch-file:
+      -DWITH_GDA3:BOOL=OFF \
+      -DWITH_SPEECH:BOOL=OFF \
+      -DWITH_MAPNIK:BOOL=OFF \

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[Guenther Meyer]

Am Freitag 07 August 2009 schrieb Joerg Ostertag:

> On Thursday 06 August 2009, Jon Reynolds wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 07:03:17AM +0200, Joerg Ostertag wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 05 August 2009, Ross Scanlon wrote:
> > > > Hi Jon,
> > > >
> > > > Everywhere tonight.
> > > >
> > > > Have a look at:
> > > >
> > > > http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/gpsdrive/index.php?title=8.04_m
> > > >an ual
> > > >
> > > > To install the osm side of things you would only need to carry out
> > > > steps 3,4 and 5.
> > > >
> > > > The rest can be done using deb's and you will probably find if you
> > > > have gpsdrive running that most of it is already in place.
> > >
> > > I see that this is a lengthly list of things to do for Ubuntu. Wouldn't
> > > it be good to have all these things automated inside .deb packages? If
> > > someone having an Ubuntu can have a look at this and add some
> > > automation to the packages would be great.
> > >
> > > For filling the postgis database you can also use the script
> > >    mapnik-osm-updater.sh --all-planet-geofabrik=europe/germany
> > > which is located in the
> > >   openstreetmap-utils*.deb
> > > package. This might ease things.
> > >
> > > Joerg
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > GPSdrive mailing list
> > > GPSdrive@...
> > > http://lists.gpsdrivers.org/mailman/listinfo/gpsdrive
> >
> > Yeah I had a look at the link and was a little bewildered at the things
> > I was going to have to do... haven't got round to it yet. Never used
> > postgresql before.
> >
> > If in Ubuntu I do an apt-get install gpsdrive it brings
> > http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/gpsdrive
> >
> > So to use OSM data, do I need PostgreSQL installed? That's not showing
> > up as a dependency... all a bit over my head tbh.
>
> Sorry; there is no OSM support in HARDY. The postgis packages are not
> available for HARDY, so we compiled these Packages without OSM Support.
>

please don't mix up osm with mapnik!

there may be no mapnik live rendering, but using downloadable t@h map tiles
and poi data from a planet file should be no problem.




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