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Dear Amos And Calendar people
You may have heard from me before of the idea of a solar
calendar with 366 dates in a year with one date omitted each new yerm in a
lunar yerm calendar.
If the yerm calendar is a simple 3-yerm cycle with 49 lunar
months lasting 1447 days. Then these 3 yerms have 1447+3=1450 dates and so 183 of
these 3-yerm cycles have 183*1450 = 366*725 dates and so 725 years, giving rise
to the 725-year cycle that Irv recently mentioned.
The 3 yerm cycle is always 14 dates short of 4 years and this is
useful in working out which lunar date occurs at the start of each year.
One has to add a lunar date at the end of each yerm for the solar date that has
no day. For a calendar where year 1 begins on the first day of yerm 1 of the
3-yerm cycle, I reckon that the lunar yerm dates at the start of each year are
as follows for the first 80 years of the 725 year cycle are:
0001 1(01(01 0002 1(13(13
0003 2(08(24 0004 3(04(05
0005 1(01(15 0006 1(13(27
0007 2(09(09 0008 3(04(19
0009 1(01(29 0010 1(14(11
0011 2(09(23 0012 3(05(04
0013 1(02(13 0014 1(14(25
0015 2(10(07 0016 3(05(18
0017 1(02(27 0018 1(15(09
0019 2(10(21
0020 3(06(02 0021 1(03(12
0022 1(15(23 0023 2(11(06
0024 3(06(16 0025 1(03(26
0026 1(16(07 0027 2(11(20
0028 3(07(01 0029 1(04(10
0030 1(16(21 0031 2(12(04
0032 3(07(15 0033 1(04(24
0034 1(17(06 0035 2(12(18
0036 3(07(29 0037 1(05(09
0038 1(17(20
0039 2(13(03 0040 3(08(13
0041 1(05(23 0042 2(01(03
0043 2(13(17 0044 3(08(27
0045 1(06(07 0046 2(01(17
0047 2(14(01 0048 3(09(12
0049 1(06(21 0050 2(02(01
0051 2(14(15 0052 3(09(26
0053 1(07(06 0054 2(02(15
0055 2(15(29 0056 3(10(10
0057 1(07(20
0058 2(02(29 0059 2(16(13 0060
3(10(24 0061 1(08(04
0062 2(03(14 0063 2(16(27 0064
3(11(09 0065 1(08(18
0066 2(03(28 0067 2(17(12 0068
3(11(23 0069 1(09(03
0070 2(04(12 0071 2(17(26 0072
3(12(07 0073 1(09(17
0074 2(04(26 0075 3(01(09 0076
3(12(21
0077 1(10(01 0078 2(05(11
0079 3(01(23 0080 3(13(06
If this table were extended, one would eventually reach a year
beginning on the extra date added to the end of a yerm 1, this indicates that
the year omits its first date and so begins with its second date, which is also
the first day of a yerm 2. This won’t happen with the extra dates of other
yerms, because they are even-numbered dates of the 3-yerm cycle, which occur
only on even-numbered dates of the year (never new year’s date).
NB: Yerm 1 and 2 each have 17 lunar months of 502 days = 503
dates and yerm 3 has 15 lunar months of 443 days = 444 dates.
Years 0001, 0005, 0009, 0013, 0017, 0021, 0025, 0029, 0033, 0037,
0042, 0046, 0050, 0054, 0058, 0062, 0066, 0070, 0075 and 0079 have 366
days because they begin and end in the same yerm.
Karl
10(05(05
From: East Carolina University Calendar
discussion List [mailto:CALNDR-L@...] On Behalf Of Amos
Shapir
Sent: 08 January 2009 15:31
To: CALNDR-L@...
Subject: Re: Phantom Day Ratios
How about the opposite type of solar
calendars, those which have more dates in a year than days? (I can think
of useful calendars of at least 366 and 368 dates schemes). Then, instead
of "phantom days" which are date-less days, we'd have "phantom
dates", which are day-less dates; that is, a date is skipped every N days.
Using the same method, I get the results:
366 482.977 483.105 483(365.242236)
367 208.784 208.807 209(365.244019)
368 133.440 133.449 133(365.233083)
369 98.196 98.201 98(365.234694)
370 77.767 77.770 78(365.256410)
Amos Shapir
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 13:10:53 +0000
From: karl.palmen@...
Subject: Phantom Day Ratios
To: CALNDR-L@...
Dear
Calendar People
There
have been on this list a few examples of a solar calendar where a year has a
fixed number of ordinary days between which are occasionally inserted a phantom
day.
Here
I have a table that shows the ratio of ordinary days to phantom days for
various numbers of ordinary days per year (column 1) for a mean year of
365.2422 days (column 2) and a mean year of 365.2424 days (column 3). You can
get the ratio of days to phantom days by adding one to the ratio of ordinary
days to phantom days.
Subsequent
columns have a suggested approximation of the ratio followed by the resulting mean
year in
days
enclosed in().
365
1507.019 1505.776 1507 (365.242203) 1506 (365.242364)
364
293.028 292.981 293 (365.242321)
363 161.895
161.880
162 (365.240740) 1457/9 (365.242278)
362 111.653
111.646 335/3 (365.241791)
361 85.097
85.093
85.1 (365.242068) 936/11 (365.242521)
360
68.673 68.671 206/3 (365.242718)
Karl
10(04(12
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