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Q: Cost of Tech Support

2009-11-20T22:08:53Z

Hello All:

How much people/companies pay for tech support when it is carried out for
them by a third party company based in the US?

Thanks,

Ahmet Toprak
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Flex with 4D SQL Server Rocks

2009-08-26T09:32:59Z

I'd just like to say (with enthusiasm) that combining Flex with 4D
Server has been an effective way of snagging new business for us.

If haven't already investigated Flex, you should. In particular, the
4D For Flex component is a truly great way of connecting directly to a
4D SQL server backend.

http://www.4d.com/products/4dweb20pack-FL.html

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[ANN]New York City Regional 4D Users Group Meeting, Wed. 6/17/09

2009-06-12T12:53:46Z

New York City Regional 4D Users Group - June 2009

Date: Wednesday, June 17
Hours: 7:30 PM to 9:30 PM
Location: Saint Peter's Church at The Citicorp Center (see below for complete directions)
Contact Gary Brocks: gbrocks@...

Topics and Presenters:
Using a MySQL database with 4D, and productivity tools for working with MY SQL particularly on the Mac.
-- Mehboob Alam of thinkx group, inc.

About the evening‘s topic:
The evening‘s topic is the topic postponed last month. Mehboob Alamwill present his experiences using 4D and MySQL databases together.

The evening's proposed schedule is as follows:
7:30 Meet and Greet
7:35 - 9:00 Using a MySQL database with 4D - Mehboob Alam
9:00 - 9:30 Open discussion, Q & A
9:30 Meeting wrapup, adjourn to a local establishment for talk, food and drink(s)

About Mehboob Alam
Mehboob is a business application developer in New York City. As atechnical consultant and in-house developer, he has used 4D for over 18years. Mehboob has been an active member of the 4D community for manyyears and is highly regarded by his peers for his knowledgebasecontributions through his on-line activities.

Postings concerning NYCR4DUG meetings and activities can be found at our website
http://www.nyc4d.org and at http://www.4dtoday.com.

Facility:
Saint Peter's Church at The Citicorp Center
619 Lexington Avenue at 54th Street
New York, NY
212-935-2200

Meeting Room:
The Committee Room

Near by subway lines:
E or V trains to Lexington Ave station (at 53rd Street)
4 or 5 trains to the 59th Street station (on Lexington Avenue), then walk south on Lexington Avenue 6 blocks.
6 train to the 51 Street station (on Lexington Avenue), walk north 2 blocks.

The entrance to Saint Peter's Church is on 54th Street betweenLexington Ave and 3rd Avenue. Upon entering you will see the receptiondesk. Let the receptionist know that you are there for the NYC4DUGmeeting.

Take the elevator (on your left) down to level LL2 / Theater Level.
When you reach the Theater Level, walk straight through the lobby, and though a set of reddish fire doors.
After walking though the fire doors, continue up a short flight ofstairs (about 6 steps) and continue straight ahead to the 2nd door onthe right, the door for the Committee Room.

Sponsorship of this month’s meeting will be provided for by a generous contribution from Mehboob Alam of thinkx group, inc
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Re: Headsets

2009-06-09T09:16:38Z

I ended up getting a Logitech USB headset which cost about 1/6th what the
Plantronics wireless one was and the voice quality is EXCELLENT.

I'll just have to live with the tether.

PB

On 21/5/09 16:14, "Peter Jakobsson" <lists@...> wrote:

>
> On 21 May 2009, at 15:57, Matthias Schmidt wrote:
>
>> Plantronics USB Headset, which is not wireless, but the quality is
>> great.
>
> Same here - they are great I agree.
>
> Peter
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Looking for developer in San Francisco Bay Area

2009-06-08T16:09:15Z

I am looking for an affordable 4D programmer / developer in the Oakland area
to do ongoing work on a small business 4D Server system (2004.7) running on
Macs.
If you can recommend a better place for this posting please let me know.
TIA,
Steve Karlsrud
SMK Packaging, Inc.
San Leandro, CA 94577

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Re: Headsets

2009-05-22T21:33:38Z

Hello Mike,

From: "Mike Erickson" <mike-nug@...>

> On May 22, 2009, at 6:45 PM, Steve Makohin wrote:
>
>> I use a Logitech USB headset. Very good sound in the headset, and
>> the listener on the other end says mic sounds like my voice is "in
>> their head" ;-) Pretty inexpensive, too.
>
> Which model is this (have a URL)

A-0356A

-Steve
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Re: Headsets

2009-05-22T20:39:43Z

Steve

Which model is this (have a URL)

Mike Erickson
Automated Solutions Group

On May 22, 2009, at 6:45 PM, Steve Makohin wrote:

> I use a Logitech USB headset. Very good sound in the headset, and
> the listener on the other end says mic sounds like my voice is "in
> their head" ;-) Pretty inexpensive, too.

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Re: Headsets

2009-05-22T18:45:52Z

Hello Pat,

From: "Pat Bensky" <pbensky@...>

> I'd like to ask y'all if you have any experience using headsets and if you
> can recommend one. I'm currently testing a Plantronics wireless headset
> and
> it certainly is great in many respects ... Except ... I don't think the
> voice quality is very good. It sounds a bit fuzzy, as though I am talking
> over a long-distance telephone line. I expected it to be clearer. Anybody
> have any recommendations?

I use a Logitech USB headset. Very good sound in the headset, and the
listener on the other end says mic sounds like my voice is "in their head"
;-) Pretty inexpensive, too.

-Steve Makohin
Oakville, Ontario, Canada

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Re: Headsets

2009-05-22T18:41:02Z

>>
>> Plantronics USB Headset, which is not wireless, but the quality is great.
>
> Another vote for Plantronics USB. I use one all day with MacSpeech Dictate
> and it is very good.

I have a USB Plantronics headset as well. It works great. I'm usually
sitting at my desk, so the cord (which is plenty long) is not a big
deal. It comes with a USB adapter which is needed for amplifying the
microphone. The boom microphone easily swivels out of the way, when
you don't need it. It seems well made. Mine also has a volume control
knob on the line, and a mute/low/high switch for controlling the
volume of your voice.

Doug
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Re: Accept Credit Cards?

2009-05-22T14:17:56Z

Mikey,

You make a great point. ACH is in most cases significantly less expensive
than credit card processing. In addition, it is also less risky for the
merchant. Consumers have a much smaller window of time to contest charges.
Most gateway providers have an ACH partner that they are integrated with.
It is a great option is available.

The only drawback is that many consumers are still weary of providing their
routing/account number. If you can get through that concern, ACH is a great
way to go.

Sincerely,
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Subject: Re: Accept Credit Cards?
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 10:11:21 -0400
From: Mikey <mikeythek@...>
To: 4D Biz <4d_biz@...>
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Credit card merchant rates are not cheap. There are ALSO fees all over-
application fee. Processing fees. Per-transaction fees. Monthly
minimums. Statement fees. Franchise fees. Network fees.

Even for vendors that "waive" some or most of the fees, if you were to
compare a universe of vendors for merchant services, when it all settles
down, you'll find out that your total cost of using the service is about the
same in total.

Also, be prepared to have your credit history, your bank history, etc.
scrutinized because the merchant services institution is providing you
credit as well since your customer could issue a chargeback. There are no
credit card/p-card/GSA cards that do not have this feature.

When it's all said and done, paypal might be cheaper after all.

However, many, many companies now can pay you via ACH - it's a direct
bank-to-bank transaction, which takes care of the whole "small payments"
concern.

Call Visa or Mastercard and find out the merchant processors that they have
on their list. Local banks can't compete with clearing houses. They're not
even close.

Good luck, and remember to mark up your future projects with this cutomer to
cover the credit card fees.

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Re: Headsets

2009-05-22T09:18:59Z

> Am/On Thu, 21 May 2009 15:53:04 +0100 schrieb/wrote Pat Bensky:
>
>> I'd like to ask y'all if you have any experience using headsets and if you
>> can recommend one. I'm currently testing a Plantronics wireless headset and
>> it certainly is great in many respects ... Except ... I don't think the
>> voice quality is very good. It sounds a bit fuzzy, as though I am talking
>> over a long-distance telephone line. I expected it to be clearer. Anybody
>> have any recommendations?
>
> Plantronics USB Headset, which is not wireless, but the quality is great.

Another vote for Plantronics USB. I use one all day with MacSpeech Dictate
and it is very good.

Jim DeWitt

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Re: Headsets

2009-05-21T08:55:27Z

CN NetCom is great. For DECT.

Am 21.05.2009 um 16:53 schrieb Pat Bensky:

> I'd like to ask y'all if you have any experience using headsets

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Re: Headsets

2009-05-21T08:14:56Z

On 21 May 2009, at 15:57, Matthias Schmidt wrote:

> Plantronics USB Headset, which is not wireless, but the quality is
> great.

Same here - they are great I agree.

Peter

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Re: Headsets

2009-05-21T07:57:39Z

Am/On Thu, 21 May 2009 15:53:04 +0100 schrieb/wrote Pat Bensky:

>I'd like to ask y'all if you have any experience using headsets and if you
>can recommend one. I'm currently testing a Plantronics wireless headset and
>it certainly is great in many respects ... Except ... I don't think the
>voice quality is very good. It sounds a bit fuzzy, as though I am talking
>over a long-distance telephone line. I expected it to be clearer. Anybody
>have any recommendations?

Plantronics USB Headset, which is not wireless, but the quality is great.

cheers,
Matthias

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Headsets

2009-05-21T07:53:04Z

I'd like to ask y'all if you have any experience using headsets and if you
can recommend one. I'm currently testing a Plantronics wireless headset and
it certainly is great in many respects ... Except ... I don't think the
voice quality is very good. It sounds a bit fuzzy, as though I am talking
over a long-distance telephone line. I expected it to be clearer. Anybody
have any recommendations?

Pat

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Re: Accept Credit Cards?

2009-05-21T07:11:21Z

Credit card merchant rates are not cheap. There are ALSO fees all over-
application fee. Processing fees. Per-transaction fees. Monthly
minimums. Statement fees. Franchise fees. Network fees.

Even for vendors that "waive" some or most of the fees, if you were to
compare a universe of vendors for merchant services, when it all settles
down, you'll find out that your total cost of using the service is about the
same in total.

Also, be prepared to have your credit history, your bank history, etc.
scrutinized because the merchant services institution is providing you
credit as well since your customer could issue a chargeback. There are no
credit card/p-card/GSA cards that do not have this feature.

When it's all said and done, paypal might be cheaper after all.

However, many, many companies now can pay you via ACH - it's a direct
bank-to-bank transaction, which takes care of the whole "small payments"
concern.

Call Visa or Mastercard and find out the merchant processors that they have
on their list. Local banks can't compete with clearing houses. They're not
even close.

Good luck, and remember to mark up your future projects with this cutomer to
cover the credit card fees.
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Re: Accept Credit Cards?

2009-05-20T23:27:00Z

Mehboob,

I'm glad you liked the 4D Today Ad :-)

I have been a 4D developer since 1991, and grew organically into the payment
processing industry as my clients needed payment solutions. Most of our
customers are end merchants, and we've only recently made our example code
publicly available and reached out to developers. I'm not sure how many, if
any, of our current customers are on the 4d_biz list.

If you e-mail me off list (matt@...), I'll be happy to provide you
with references, a demo of our technology, info on our partner program, fill
you in on our background, etc.

Have a great day!

Sincerely,

Matt Schwartz
matt@...
www.transaxdevelopers.com

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Matthew,

I have seen your ads on 4DToday, and they look interesting. It would
help if existing 4D customers chimed in here as references.

Thanks.
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Re: Off-shoring development

2009-05-18T16:51:05Z

As a company that has been extensively involved in ebits, I can tell
you that you pretty much have to ignore the prices, because the devil
is in the details. We have landed numerous ebids where we weren't the
lowest bidder (and even when we were the highest) because of things
like the customer had repeated problems with one of the vendors,
payment terms, they didn't believe the bid, etc.

GetACoder and GetAFreelancer (I think that's it) are full of garbage
quotes. At a seminar we attended at FreeMarkets.com, they admitted
that the goal of ebids isn't really to place the work with someone new
but to beat down your existing vendor's price, even a litle.
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Re: Off-shoring development

2009-05-18T16:46:33Z

I offshored my latest project...to soggy old Britain and Pat Bensky...
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Re: Accept Credit Cards?

2009-05-18T15:19:22Z

Matthew,

I have seen your ads on 4DToday, and they look interesting. It would
help if existing 4D customers chimed in here as references.

Thanks.
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Re: Off-shoring development

2009-05-18T14:46:09Z

No, but do feel free to re-post.

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Bill Weale <Bill.Weale@...> wrote:
> Does any one remember Steve Willis' April 1 posts to the nug?
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Re: Off-shoring development

2009-05-18T14:41:51Z

Does any one remember Steve Willis' April 1 posts to the nug?

--www

On May 18, 2009, at 4:40 PM, Mehboob Alam wrote:

> Just for laughs.. read the project description itself.. and then the
> last three bids..
> http://www.getacoder.com/projects/ftp_client_105322.html
>
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Off-shoring development

2009-05-18T13:40:25Z

Just for laughs.. read the project description itself.. and then the
last three bids..
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[ANN-REVISED]New York City Regional 4D Users Group Meeting, Wed. 5/20/09

2009-05-18T11:58:54Z

New York City Regional 4D Users Group - May 2009

Date: Wednesday, May 20
Hours: 7:30 PM to 9:30 PM
Location: Saint Peter's Church at The Citicorp Center (see below for complete directions)
Contact Gary Brocks: gbrocks@...

Topics and Presenters:
Part 2, Using a MySQL database with 4D, and productivity tools for working with MY SQL particularly on the Mac.
-- Mehboob Alam of thinkx group, inc.
-- Christophe Flament of Ponga Consulting, Inc.

About the evening‘s topic:
The evening‘s topic will be a continuation of the topic begun last month by Mehboob Alam.
This month Mehboob Alam and Chrsitophe Flament will present their individual experiences using 4D and MySQL databases together.

The evening's proposed schedule is as follows:
7:30 Meet and Greet
7:35 - 8:45 Using a MySQL database with 4D - Mehboob Alam
8:45 - 9:15 Using a MySQL database with 4D - Christophe Flament
9:15 - 9:30 Open discussion, Q & A
9:30 Meeting wrapup, adjourn to a local establishment for talk, food and drink(s)

About Mehboob Alam
Mehboob is a business application developer in New York City. As atechnical consultant and in-house developer, he has used 4D for over 18years. Mehboob has been an active member of the 4D community for manyyears and is highly regarded by his peers for his knowledgebasecontributions through his on-line activities.

About Christophe Flament
Christophe Flament is a computer consultant who implements solutionsusing 4D. With more than 15 years of 4D experience, Christophe has anextensive track record deploying small and medium sized databases.Christophe's approach has won praise from his clients, and hisdedication to the 4D community has earned him the praise of his peers.For the past 11 years, Christophe has lived in Manhattan.

Postings concerning NYCR4DUG meetings and activities can be found at our website
http://www.nyc4d.org and at http://www.4dtoday.com.

Facility:
Saint Peter's Church at The Citicorp Center
619 Lexington Avenue at 54th Street
New York, NY
212-935-2200

Meeting Room:
The Committee Room

Near by subway lines:
E or V trains to Lexington Ave station (at 53rd Street)
4 or 5 trains to the 59th Street station (on Lexington Avenue), then walk south
on Lexington Avenue 6 blocks.
6 train to the 51 Street station (on Lexington Avenue), walk north 2 blocks.

The entrance to Saint Peter's Church is on 54th Street between Lexington Ave and
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Take the elevator (on your left) down to level LL2 / Theater Level. When you
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flight of stairs (about 6 steps) and continue straight ahead to the 2nd door on
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Sponsorship of this month’s meeting will be provided for by a generous
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[ANN-Revised]New York City Regional 4D Users Group Meeting, Wed. 5/20/09

2009-05-18T10:24:17Z

New York City Regional 4D Users Group - May 2009

Date: Wednesday, May 20
Hours: 7:30 PM to 9:30 PM
Location: Saint Peter's Church at The Citicorp Center (see below for complete directions)
Contact Gary Brocks: gbrocks@...

Topics and Presenters:
Part 2, Using a MySQL database with 4D, and productivity tools for working with MY SQL particularly on the Mac.
-- Mehboob Alam of thinkx group, inc.
-- Christophe Flament of Ponga Consulting, Inc.

About the evening‘s topic:
The evening‘s topic will be a continuation of the topic begun last month by Mehboob Alam.
This month Mehboob Alam and Chrsitophe Flament will present their individual experiences using 4D and MySQL databases together.

The evening's proposed schedule is as follows:
7:30 Meet and Greet
7:35 - 8:45 Using a MySQL database with 4D - Mehboob Alam
8:45 - 9:15 Using a MySQL database with 4D - Christophe Flament
9:15 - 9:30 Open discussion, Q & A
9:30 Meeting wrapup, adjourn to a local establishment for talk, food and drink(s)

About Mehboob Alam
Mehboob is a business application developer in New York City. As a technical consultant and in-house developer, he has used 4D for over 18 years. Mehboob has been an active member of the 4D community for many years and is highly regarded by his peers for his knowledgebase contributions through his on-line activities.

About Christophe Flament
Christophe Flament is a computer consultant who implements solutions using 4D. With more than 15 years of 4D experience, Christophe has an extensive track record deploying small and medium sized databases. Christophe's approach has won praise from his clients, and his dedication to the 4D community has earned him the praise of his peers. For the past 11 years, Christophe has lived in Manhattan.

Postings concerning NYCR4DUG meetings and activities can be found at our website
http://www.nyc4d.org and at http://www.4dtoday.com.

Facility:
Saint Peter's Church at The Citicorp Center
619 Lexington Avenue at 54th Street
New York, NY
212-935-2200

Meeting Room:
The Committee Room

Near by subway lines:
E or V trains to Lexington Ave station (at 53rd Street)
4 or 5 trains to the 59th Street station (on Lexington Avenue), then walk south
on Lexington Avenue 6 blocks.
6 train to the 51 Street station (on Lexington Avenue), walk north 2 blocks.

The entrance to Saint Peter's Church is on 54th Street between Lexington Ave and
3rd Avenue. Upon entering you will see the reception desk. Let the receptionist
know that you are there for the NYC4DUG meeting.

Take the elevator (on your left) down to level LL2 / Theater Level. When you
reach the Theater Level, walk straight through the lobby, and though a set of
reddish fire doors. After walking though the fire doors, continue up a short
flight of stairs (about 6 steps) and continue straight ahead to the 2nd door on
the right, the door for the Committee Room.

Sponsorship of this month’s meeting will be provided for by a generous
contribution from Paul Davis of Ultra Golden Software LLC.
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[ANN]New York City Regional 4D Users Group Meeting, Wed. 5/20/09

2009-05-18T10:04:01Z

New York City Regional 4D Users Group - May 2009

Date: Wednesday, May 20
Hours: 7:30 PM to 9:30 PM
Location: Saint Peter's Church at The Citicorp Center (see below for complete directions)
Contact Gary Brocks: gbrocks@...

Topics and Presenters:
Part 2, Using a MySQL database with 4D, and productivity tools for working with MY SQL particularly on the Mac.
-- Mehboob Alam of thinkx group, inc.
-- Christophe Flament of Ponga Consulting, Inc.

About the evening‘s topic:
The evening‘s topic will be a continuation of the topic begun last month by Mehboob Alam.
This month Mehboob Alam and Chrsitophe Flament will present their individual experiences using 4D and MySQL databases together.

The evening's proposed schedule is as follows:
7:30 Meet and Greet
7:35 - 8:45 Using a MySQL database with 4D - Mehboob Alam
8:45 - 9:15 Using a MySQL database with 4D - Christophe Flament
9:15 - 9:30 Open discussion, Q & A
9:30 Meeting wrapup, adjourn to a local establishment for talk, food and drink(s)

About Mehboob Alam
Mehboob is a business application developer in New York City. As a technical consultant and in-house developer, he has used 4D for over 18 years. Mehboob has been an active member of the 4D community for many years and is highly regarded by his peers for his knowledgebase contributions through his on-line activities.

About Christophe Flament
Christophe Flament is a computer consultant who implements solutions using 4D. With more than 15 years of 4D experience, Christophe has an extensive track record deploying small and medium sized databases. Christophe's approach has won praise from his clients, and his dedication to the 4D community has earned him the praise of his peers. For the past 11 years, Christophe has lived in Manhattan.

Postings concerning NYCR4DUG meetings and activities can be found at our website
http://www.nyc4d.org and at http://www.4dtoday.com.

Facility:
Saint Peter's Church at The Citicorp Center
619 Lexington Avenue at 54th Street
New York, NY
212-935-2200

Meeting Room:
The Committee Room

Near by subway lines:
E or V trains to Lexington Ave station (at 53rd Street)
4 or 5 trains to the 59th Street station (on Lexington Avenue), then walk south
on Lexington Avenue 6 blocks.
6 train to the 51 Street station (on Lexington Avenue), walk north 2 blocks.

The entrance to Saint Peter's Church is on 54th Street between Lexington Ave and
3rd Avenue. Upon entering you will see the reception desk. Let the receptionist
know that you are there for the NYC4DUG meeting.

Take the elevator (on your left) down to level LL2 / Theater Level. When you
reach the Theater Level, walk straight through the lobby, and though a set of
reddish fire doors. After walking though the fire doors, continue up a short
flight of stairs (about 6 steps) and continue straight ahead to the 2nd door on
the right, the door for the Committee Room.
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Re: Insider

2009-04-15T10:50:00Z

> Maybe it is possible to parse the HTML code and build a 3 pane browser ala Insider.

That already exists, as a product called MethodMadness, also from
Committed Software.

The part I'm looking for is - at some point, a version of AutoDoc was
created, which generated an XML something. This was done on contract
for 4D, Inc. to be part of the 4D-DreamWeaver interface so that you
could insert 4D table/fields into HTML code being created in
DreamWeaver.

--

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Re: Accept Credit Cards?

2009-04-15T07:53:02Z

Lyn,

Paypal's discount rate starts at 2.9 and then goes down based on volume.
Our standard rate starts at 2.37%. However, if a merchant already has a
processing history, we can usually do better than that (and of course,
volume impacts pricing with us as well). Paypal's pricing structures are
very rigid. We have the ability to bring in other types of payment
structures (i.e. Cost Plus and ERR programs), which, while slightly more
complicated, usually ends up giving the merchant a significant price
benefit.

In other words, for new merchants, we start at 2.37%, but for merchants who
have a processing history, we customize a pricing plan that will be the most
advantageous to them.

Sincerely,
Matt Schwartz
------------------------------

Message: 4
Subject: Re: Accept Credit Cards?
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 12:34:06 -0500
From: Lyn <lynlist@...>
To: 4D Biz <4d_biz@...>
Message-ID: <EDEC167A-3101-4DF6-8497-CFD482BFF65A@...>

Matt,

You mentioned that Paypal is a little on the expensive compared to
your services. What do you charge?

Lyn

On Apr 12, 2009, at 9:09 PM, Matthew J. Schwartz wrote:
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Matthew J. Schwartz"
>
> Paypal is a little on the expensive side. We provide merchant
> accounts at
> very low rates <snip>...

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Re: Accept Credit Cards?

2009-04-14T10:34:06Z

Matt,

You mentioned that Paypal is a little on the expensive compared to
your services. What do you charge?

Lyn

On Apr 12, 2009, at 9:09 PM, Matthew J. Schwartz wrote:
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Matthew J. Schwartz"
>
> Paypal is a little on the expensive side. We provide merchant
> accounts at
> very low rates <snip>...
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[OFF] Interprise Suite Anyone ?

2009-04-14T09:24:56Z

Hi All

I've been asked to do a survey of accounting systems for one of my
customers. They are Mac based but would accept a platform compromise
if it was the right package.

They are about a £10-15 Million ($15-25 Million) turnover retail
business (UK based) and growing. I've come across this http://
www.interprisesuite.com package which looks very promising and was
wondering if anyone had experience of it which they could share.

Also, any other recommendations/experiences would be appreciated !
(I've of course also made them aware of the 4D-based packages that
are available).

Best regards

Peter

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Re: Help!

2009-04-13T07:07:35Z

Jack,Did you send an email to mailto:4D_Biz-Unsubscribe@...
as is listed below?
Alan

On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Jack Caviness <jackcav@...> wrote:

> I have sent repeated unsubscribe messages, clicked endless unsubscribe
> buttons on the web site. How do I get off this list?
>
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Help!

2009-04-13T06:05:18Z

I have sent repeated unsubscribe messages, clicked endless
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Re: selling license

2009-04-13T04:46:29Z

Are you allowed to sell and/or transfer licenses? I'm asking because
the new activation schemes are tied to a Partner(-like) account code.

Sent from my iPhone

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> Sorry to post here, not sure if it the right place:
> I have an extra licence of 4D Developer Standard v11 SQL to sell
> (something like 299 bucks) (just the licence of course, no CD).
> Anyone interested?
>
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RE: Accept Credit Cards?

2009-04-12T19:09:48Z

Walt,

We are located in Schaumburg, IL (outside of Chicago) and are registered
with Visa/MC through BancorpSouth Bank, Tupelo, MS. We typically, but not
always use the First Data platform for our merchant accounts. Keep in mind,
you are not required to have your merchant account through us to use our
gateway. The gateway is certified with most US processors and a number of
international processors. As long as your merchant account is on one of the
processors we're certified with, we can plug it into the gateway. I'd be
happy to provide a demo account if you are interested or answer any
questions.

BTW, Looks like I had an extra "w" in my link - it should be
http://www.transaxdevelopers.com/4d.

Sincerely,
Matt Schwartz

------------------------------------------------------------------
Matt,

What is the name of your bank? Where are you located? How long has your bank
bEen in business? Do you have FDIC membership?

I am intrigued by your posting, you probide no credibility information - not
even the name of your bank.

Walt Nelson - Guam
Sent from my BlackBerryR wireless device

-----Original Message-----
From: "Matthew J. Schwartz"

Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:50:46
To: <4d_biz@...>
Subject: RE: Accept Credit Cards?

Paypal is a little on the expensive side. We provide merchant accounts at
very low rates, have our own gateway, have 4D code available for easy
integration into your database (you can download the code for review here -
http://wwww.transaxdevelopers.com/4d) and have 4D developers on staff to
help with integration.

If you're interested e-mail me and I can share some info with you and show
you a demo of our gateway.

Sincerely,
Matt Schwartz

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Re: Accept Credit Cards?

2009-04-12T14:58:00Z

Matt,

What is the name of your bank? Where are you located? How long has your bank bEen in business? Do you have FDIC membership?

I am intrigued by your posting, you probide no credibility information - not even the name of your bank.

Walt Nelson - Guam
Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device

-----Original Message-----
From: "Matthew J. Schwartz" <mjs@...>

Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:50:46
To: <4d_biz@...>
Subject: RE: Accept Credit Cards?

Paypal is a little on the expensive side. We provide merchant accounts at
very low rates, have our own gateway, have 4D code available for easy
integration into your database (you can download the code for review here -
http://wwww.transaxdevelopers.com/4d) and have 4D developers on staff to
help with integration.

If you're interested e-mail me and I can share some info with you and show
you a demo of our gateway.

Sincerely,
Matt Schwartz

-----Original Message-----

Message: 1
Subject: Re: Accept Credit Cards?
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 10:18:37 +0100
From: Alexander Heintz <listreader@...>
To: 4D Biz <4d_biz@...>
Message-ID: <4E0B2714-BAEA-4561-8A2C-21FD5A865665@...>

Even worse, ho much do they charge for processing transfers to your
account?

I did accept PayPal for EBay sales and in total it did cost me about
6-7% of the total value.

I like PayPal from the byer side, as seller I do mot accept it anymore.

I do ot know for the US, but here in Germany most large ISPs offer
Payment processing services, or else ust ask your bank!

Cheers

Alex

> What's their percentage at PayPal? I mean, how much do they keep?
>
> On Mar 19, 2009, at 6:57 PM, Lyn wrote:
>
>> PayPal should work for you George. Kind of nice in that you can
>> send a payment request and it's pretty easy for the end-user.
>>
>> - Lyn
>>
>>
>> On Mar 19, 2009, at 8:51 PM, George Tiller wrote:
>>
>>> Today I was told by a new Federal Government (NIH) client that it
>>> would
>>> be much easier for them to pay me for custom development if I
>>> accepted
>>> credit card payments. Something about recent changes in how they
>>> process
>>> small procurements.
>>>
>>> Do any of you currently accept credit card payments? What card
>>> companies
>>> offer small vendors the best deals?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> George Tiller
>>> 911 East A Street
>>> Brunswick, Maryland 21716
>>> 301-834-8170
>>
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