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	<updated>2009-11-23T08:12:32Z</updated>
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26481006</id>
	<title>Conference by Prof. Vladimir Tismaneanu</title>
	<published>2009-11-23T08:12:32Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-23T08:12:32Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Paul-391</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;    Good evening,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We announce a seminar by Prof. Vladimir Tismaneanu to mark&lt;br&gt;
the 20th anniversary of the Romanian Revolution. This event will take place&lt;br&gt;tomorrow, Tuesday 24 Nov, at 18.00 h, in room CO 124 of the EPFL&lt;br&gt;( &lt;a href=&quot;http://plan.epfl.ch/?reset_session&amp;amp;room=co124&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://plan.epfl.ch/?reset_session&amp;amp;room=co124&lt;/a&gt; ).&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;Prof. Tismaneanu is the &lt;font face=&quot;Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif&quot; size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;Director of the Center 
          for the Study of Post-Communist &lt;br&gt;Societies and teaches Political Sciences at the&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Arial&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif&quot; size=&quot;2&quot;&gt; University of Maryland in College Park.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;His fields of expertise are &lt;/font&gt;East European politics, the collapse of communism, &lt;br&gt;memory and moral justice in post-authoritarian societies,
nationalism, civil society, &lt;br&gt;threats to liberalism in post-Cold War
Europe, the revolutions of 1989 and their aftermath.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Notably, Prof. Tismaneanu has recently chaired the Presidential Commission for the &lt;br&gt;Analysis of the Communist Dictatorship in Romania.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We are glad to announce the participation of M-me Irina du Bois &lt;span style=&quot;visibility: visible;&quot; id=&quot;main&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;visibility: visible;&quot; id=&quot;search&quot;&gt;de Dunilac&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;,   &lt;br&gt;
President of the Pierre du Bois Foundation for the study of contemporary history.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Please forward this email to friends who could be potentially interested!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We should all thank the ARO (notably Maria Mateescu, Silviu Cosmin Sandu, &lt;br&gt;
Dan Titus Salajan, and Iulian Dragos) for the organisation.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Please also mark in your agendas this upcoming meeting in Geneva:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;em&gt;The Revolutions of 1989 and their Legacies&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Thursday 26 November 2009, 18h30&lt;br&gt;
Auditorium Jacques-Freymond, rue de Lausanne 132, CH-1202 Geneva&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://graduateinstitute.ch/Jahia/site/iheid/cache/bypass/institute/news;jsessionid=FEB3190C69439C27A2FD77471D9E0AA0?newsId=81000&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://graduateinstitute.ch/Jahia/site/iheid/cache/bypass/institute/news;jsessionid=FEB3190C69439C27A2FD77471D9E0AA0?newsId=81000&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;Looking forward to see you,&lt;br&gt;                                       Paul Vasos&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;br&gt;Paul Vasos, Ph.D.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;#39;Ambizione&amp;#39; FNS Fellow, Charge de Cours,&lt;br&gt;
Laboratoire de Resonance Magnetique Biomoleculaire - LRMB,&lt;br&gt;Institut des Sciences et Ingenierie Chimiques - ISIC,&lt;br&gt;Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne - EPFL,&lt;br&gt;Batochime BCH-1531,&lt;br&gt;CH-1015 Lausanne, Suisse&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;tel: +41.(0)21.693.9723 / fax: +41.(0)21.693.9435&lt;br&gt;natel: +41.76.543.5937&lt;br&gt;natel: +41.79.781.80.16&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://people.epfl.ch/paul.vasos&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://people.epfl.ch/paul.vasos&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif&quot; size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26477200</id>
	<title>rezultatele din Elvetia la alegerile din 22 noiembrie</title>
	<published>2009-11-23T04:29:07Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-23T04:29:07Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Cosmin-6</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Puteti afla cum s-a votat in Elvetia pe www.casa-romanilor.ch, la &amp;quot;Stiri&amp;quot;.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cosmin
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26461684</id>
	<title>20 de ani de la Revolutia Romana: Vladimir Tismaneanu la EPFL</title>
	<published>2009-11-21T16:07:40Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-21T16:07:40Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>dantitus.salajan</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;La 20 de ani de la Revolutia Romana, ARO va invita la o serie de &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;evenimente pe aceasta tema, majoritatea concentrate in luna decembrie. &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;Pana atunci avem placerea sa va anuntam un prim eveniment.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Marti 24 noiembrie, orele 18, EPFL (sala urmeaza sa fie anuntata luni)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Conferinta VLADIMIR TISMANEANU*, University of Maryland.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Conferinta va fi urmata de un apero.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;*Vladimir Tismaneanu este unul dintre cei mai importanti politologi &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;romani, foarte apreciat pentru lucrarile sale stiintifice pe tema &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;regimului comunist in Romania. Vladimir Tismaneanu este autorul &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;raportului care a documentat condamnarea oficiala a comunismului in &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;Romania(2006).
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26327351</id>
	<title>Apartament disponibil Avenue de Morges</title>
	<published>2009-11-12T14:03:40Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-12T14:03:40Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Laura Gui</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Buna,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Va scriu pentru a va anunta ca apartamentul in care locuiesc va fi
&lt;br&gt;disponibil incepand cu 15
&lt;br&gt;ianuarie 2010. Va rog sa ma contactati cat mai curand daca sunteti
&lt;br&gt;interesati, inainte sa public anuntul pe internet. Adresa mea de
&lt;br&gt;e-mail este: &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26327351&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;gui.laura@...&lt;/a&gt; .
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Iata detaliile apartamentului:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;- adresa: &amp;nbsp;Avenue de Morges 26, 1004 Lausanne
&lt;br&gt;- chiria actuala: 1150.- pe luna, inclusiv taxe pentru caldura si apa calda
&lt;br&gt;- disponibil de la 15 ianuarie 2010
&lt;br&gt;- situat in apropiere de Chauderon, la 5 minute de mers de metro
&lt;br&gt;- 2 camere, baie, bucatarie deschisa spre sufragerie, complet echipata
&lt;br&gt;(frigider, aragaz cu gaz si hota, dulapuri), balcon, pivnita. Cladirea
&lt;br&gt;dispune de un local cu masini de spalat si uscat.
&lt;br&gt;- imobil modern cu ascensor
&lt;br&gt;- posibilitate de a inchiria un loc de parcare in subsolul cladirii.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Numai bine,
&lt;br&gt;Laura Gui
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26319702</id>
	<title>circulara comunicare publica</title>
	<published>2009-11-12T06:31:56Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-12T06:31:56Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Alexandru Arion-3</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Salut,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Pentru cei interesati de alegerile care urmeaza, puteti gasi atasat
&lt;br&gt;regulamentul de desfasurare.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Un lucru ce l-am remarcat: la referendum, cele 2 intrebari sunt pe
&lt;br&gt;buletine de vot separate, se poate vota Da/Nu la fiecare intrebare in
&lt;br&gt;parte.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Alex Arion
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26282824</id>
	<title>Re: cazare ieftina Lausanne?</title>
	<published>2009-11-10T04:47:27Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-10T04:47:27Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>claudiu ciba</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;div&gt;Salut Diana,&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;de Lausanne Guesthouse am auzit lucruri bune. Curat, aproape de centru, preturi rezonabile.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;O alternativa un pic mai ieftina ar fi Youth Hostel-ul din Vidy (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youthhostel.ch/hosteldetails.html?&amp;amp;L=2&amp;amp;user_hostels_pi1[bez]=LAS&amp;amp;cHash=797e79e6ce). &quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.youthhostel.ch/hosteldetails.html?&amp;amp;L=2&amp;amp;user_hostels_pi1[bez]=LAS&amp;amp;cHash=797e79e6ce).  &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;

&lt;div&gt;Un prieten din Timisoara care a venit aici in interes de serviciu a stat acolo cateva saptamani si era multumit, mai ales de pret. Poate fi galagios primavara-vara, insa nu cred sa fie multi turisti pe acolo in perioada asta.&lt;/div&gt;

&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Claudiu&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot;&gt;2009/11/10 Diana Ciressan &lt;span dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26282824&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;diana.badila@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Buna,&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Ma intreb daca stie cineva cum e la &lt;a href=&quot;http://lausanne-guesthouse.ch/home/home_fr.php&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Lausanne Guesthouse&lt;/a&gt; sau la hotelul Le Raisin din Place Palud. Ma intereseaza daca e curat, si cat de buna e izolatia fonica a camerelor.&lt;/div&gt;

&lt;div&gt;Deasemenea, daca mai cunoasteti alte locuri ieftine, mi-ar fi de mare ajutor.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Multumesc,&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Diana&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26282523</id>
	<title>cazare ieftina Lausanne?</title>
	<published>2009-11-10T04:26:06Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-10T04:26:06Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Diana Ciressan</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;div&gt;Buna,&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Ma intreb daca stie cineva cum e la &lt;a href=&quot;http://lausanne-guesthouse.ch/home/home_fr.php&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Lausanne Guesthouse&lt;/a&gt; sau la hotelul Le Raisin din Place Palud. Ma intereseaza daca e curat, si cat de buna e izolatia fonica a camerelor.&lt;/div&gt;

&lt;div&gt;Deasemenea, daca mai cunoasteti alte locuri ieftine, mi-ar fi de mare ajutor.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Multumesc,&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Diana&lt;/div&gt;
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26243619</id>
	<title>Romania - The Economist overview</title>
	<published>2009-11-07T02:36:44Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-07T02:36:44Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Nicolae Chiurtu-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Din 2007, dar totusi interesant.
&lt;br&gt;Nicu
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26222905</id>
	<title>festival la lausanne</title>
	<published>2009-11-05T13:52:13Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-05T13:52:13Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>dantitus.salajan</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Salutare,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Dupa cum va anunta Dl. Rachieru intr-un mesaj anterior zilele acestea &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;are loc un festival interesant la Lausanne: &amp;quot;pont entre les cultures&amp;quot;.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Am fost in doua seri deja si a fost foarte frumos, o expozitie de &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;pictura si un concert de pian.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Am ramas surprins de numarul mic de studenti EPFL sau UNIL prezenti. &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;Stiu ca lumea este ocupata si asa mai departe, dar va recomand cu &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;caldura evenimentul, care este foarte complex si bine organizat.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;De exemplu maine la 20.30 la Pole Sud (chiar in Flon) va fi un nou &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;recital de pian, combinat cu poezie de Blaga. Locatia arata foarte &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;bine, iar atmosfera este foarte, foarte placuta.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Dan,
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26172277</id>
	<title>Re: Pont entre les cultures</title>
	<published>2009-11-02T15:07:19Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-02T15:07:19Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Cosmin-6</name>
	</author>
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Inca o data, care e legatura dintre festivalul cultural din Lausanne si
alegerile din Romania ?!&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Chiar asa mare e comoditatea de a scrie un &lt;b&gt;alt&lt;/b&gt; mesaj, &lt;b&gt;separat&lt;/b&gt;,
despre alegeri ?!?!&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Nicolae Chiurtu wrote:
&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;mid:1cbaca0e0911021322m76c46ef8uc2b896fb40c02918@mail.gmail.com&quot; type=&quot;cite&quot;&gt;
  &lt;pre wrap=&quot;&quot;&gt;Un site util care aduna informatii despre candidatii pentru alegerile
prezidentiale:
&lt;a class=&quot;moz-txt-link-freetext&quot; href=&quot;http://www.hartapoliticii.ro/?c=alegeri+prezidentiale+2009&amp;cid=13&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.hartapoliticii.ro/?c=alegeri+prezidentiale+2009&amp;amp;cid=13&lt;/a&gt;
Cum ne-am obisnuit deja, se pare ca trebuie sa alegem raul cel mai
mic... sper sa nu se aprinda din nou spiritele... :-)

2009/10/31 Cosmin &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26172277&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cosmin@...&lt;/a&gt;:
  &lt;/pre&gt;
  &lt;blockquote type=&quot;cite&quot;&gt;
    &lt;pre wrap=&quot;&quot;&gt;Care e legatura dintre festival si candidatul-spammer ? E si el prezent ?

Cosmin

Andreea Vasile wrote:

DRAGILOR,
IL stim pe REMUS CERNEA cu totii?
Pentru a il sustine, trebuie sa il cunoastem!
Hai sa ii dam o sansa de un click, pentru el ar fi un imbold motivational:
&lt;a class=&quot;moz-txt-link-freetext&quot; href=&quot;http://www.facebook.com/remus.cernea?ref=ts&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.facebook.com/remus.cernea?ref=ts&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a class=&quot;moz-txt-link-freetext&quot; href=&quot;http://remuscernea.ro/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://remuscernea.ro/&lt;/a&gt;
Andreea Vasile
Maastricht Shool of Business and Economics
HEC, UNIL Alumnus
On 29 Oct 2009, at 12:02, Rusu Alexandru wrote:

From: Adrian Rachieru [&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26172277&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;arch-i@...&lt;/a&gt;]
Sent: mercredi, 28. octobre 2009 19:18
To: Cosmin Paun; Adrian Rachieru
Subject:

Chères amies, chers amis

Voici le programme de la 2e édition du Festival &quot;Pont entre les cultures
Roumnauie-Suisse&quot;
Un festival riche en évenements culturels et
interculturels &quot;helveto-roumain&quot;, pour la plus part gratuites.

Je vous invite au:

FESTIVAL PONT ENTRE LES CULTURES
2 - 16 NOVEMBRE 09

ARCH-I en collaboration avec le Centre Socioculturel Pôle Sud sont les
principaux organisateurs de ce festival roumain qui aura lieu en plusieurs
salles lausannoises dans
le centre ville (Flon) : « Pôle Sud » et « One Year Only ». Un stand de
livres roumains sera ouvert à la Librairie Les Yeux Fertiles (au Flon, à la
Place de l’Europe).

La figure centrale de cette manifestation est le grand poète et philosophe
Lucian BLAGA, dont l’œuvre a inspiré des nombreux compositeurs et peintres,
certains présents dans le festival.

Nous fêtons également les vingt ans de la chute du régime communiste
en Roumanie

OU AURA LIEU LE FESTIVAL - ADRESSES

- Pôle Sud, salle &quot;Atelier d'Ici et d'Ailleurs&quot; av. Jean-Jacques
Mercier 3 (Flon), Lausanne
- One Year Only, Art &amp;amp; Mus ic Gallery, route de Genève 60 (Flon),
Lausanne
-  Librairie &quot;Les Yeux Fertiles&quot;, Place de l'Europe 9 (Flon), Lausanne

AU PROGRAMME
du 2 au 16 novembre, Librairie &quot; Les Yeux fertiles&quot; , Stand d’auteurs
roumains - édités en français

lundi 2 novembre, 17h30 - Vernissage

Un stand de livres roumains édités en langue français mettra à
disposition du public des auteurs confirmés comme Eugène IONESCO, dont
on fête le centenaire de sa naissance Panaït ISTRATI, Herta MÜLLER,
l’actuel Prix Nobel de littérature 2009 ainsi que beaucoup
d’autres, moins connus, mais dont l’oeuvre mérite tout
l’intérêt

mardi 3 novembre, salle Pôle Sud - Exposition collective de peintures

18h30 Vernissage en présence des artistes: Claudiu COJOCARU, Monica
VAUPRE DAMIAN, Livia BALU, Radu ZERO, ainsi que Climca Victoria
Stanescu, la veuve du peintre Adrian STANESCU. L’exposition a été
inspirée par les œuvres de Lucian BLAGA. Discours d’inauguration et
verre de l’amitié

entrée libre

jeudi 5 novembre, salle One Year Only - Du classique à la chanson

19h30 Récital de piano de Ioana-Raluca AVRAMESCU. Cette jeune pianiste
de 19 ans, prodige en Roumanie, est lauréate de nombreux prix
internationaux. Elle interprétera plusieurs compositions de Rachmaninov
et Bartók

20h30 La vie secrète des plantes, quartet vocal féminin
Des compositions originales imprégnées de soul, de world, de chanson.
Elles racontent des histoires, se vêtissent en plantes, rient ou
chuchotent, au gré de leur humeur

entrée: frs. 25.- / 20.-


vendredi 6 novembre, sale Pôle Sud - Spectacle contemporain

20h Les poèmes de la lumière de Lucian Blaga - trio vocal et piano
Les yeux de son aimée sont devenus « la source de la nuit » pour le
poète Lucian BLAGA, et aussi source d’inspiration pour tant des
compositeurs roumains tel Christian Alexandru Petrescu. Ses lieds
enjoués parlent de l’être aimée. En première partie  Récital de
piano de Dinu MIHAILESCU. Œuvres de Rachmaninov, Enescu, Debussy et
Petrescu, le tout entrelacé avec « Les poèmes de la lumière »,
interprétées délicieusement par Ina TOSCA

entrée libre, chapeau

samedi 7 novembre, Pôle Sud - Projection et concert

19h00 «L’éloge du village roumain » de Lucian BLAGA
19h15 Projection : « Mascarades », réal. Corneliu Gheorghita, 2001 -
Film d’ethnomusicologie sur les villages roumains de Moldavie (52
min.)
20h30 Concert de musique folklorique roumaine avec « ZORIDEZI » :
Haydée BLANK (voix), Sorin GHERALIU (cymbalum), Alexandru PATRASCU
(violon), Tudor TOMESCU (violon). Tant de nostalgie et de joie, tant de
désespoir et d’émerveillement dans cette musique balkanique, rythmée,
syncopée, transcendante

entrée libre, chapeau

Buffet de spécialités roumaines « Les délices des Carpates » concocté
par Elena DUFF


jeudi 12 novembre, Pôle Sud - Film d’art et d’essai

20h Film &quot;GOLD&quot; de Radu ZERO, 2008, 85 min. Ce film aborde
l’enlèvement, la disparition, la nuit, le choc entre la
civilisation et la nature profonde. Film métaphore, GOLD traite
l’intimité de personnages propres à notre temps. Accompagnement
musical live: Olivier JACQUEMET et PLUS2PLUS (electric vintage)

entrée libre


vendredi 13 novembre, salle Pôle Sud - Vernissage de livre, projections

19h30 Vernissage du livre «Le migrant online. Nouveaux modèles
migratoires à l’ère du numérique» de Mihaela NEDELCU, Editions de
L’Harmattan. Présentation par l’auteure et dédicace

La sociologue, Mihaela Nedelcu est chargée d’enseignement et de
recherche à l’Institut de sociologie de l’Université de Neuchâtel.
Le migrant online est pour elle le personnage central de la modernité
réflexive, une figure de proue faite de contrastes, quintessence des
mutations sociales à la croisée des chemins de l’homo mobilis et
l’homo numericus.

20h30 Le renouveau du film roumain « La mort de Dante Lazarescu », de
Cristi PUIU, 2004, 154 min. (film primé au festival de Cannes en 2006).
V.O  sous-titré en français.

Cristi PUIU dépeint la solitude d’un monde moderne prétendument axé
sur les nouvelles technologies de communication mais où chacun peut se
mourir dans la plus inacceptable solitude

entrée libre


samedi 14 novembre, salle Pôle Sud - Séminaire et autres événements

10h Seminaire de sensibilisation sur la thématique de l’œil, donné
par Loriana BROCARD, musicologue, sur des illustrations de Radu ZERO.
Présentation de l’orthoptie, une science qui vise essentiellement
le dépistage, la rééducation, la réadaptation et l'exploration
fonctionnelle des troubles de la vision

11h L’œil dans la médecine traditionnelle chinoise, par dr. Yin
LIANG. Présentation de la circulation de l’énergie dans le corps et
les méridiens liés à l’œil. Une série d’exercices de relaxation
oculaire proposée par la méthode traditionnelle chinoise

entrée : frs. 20.-

18h00 «Films sur la Roumanie et la musique roumaine»
Buffet de spécialités roumaines « Les délices des Carpates », d’Elena
DUFF, dès midi et le soir

dimanche 15 novembre, Pôle Sud - Finissage de l’expo suivi d’une soirée «
Repas et contes » - avec réservation

14h00 Finissage de l’exposition collective, en présence des artistes
: Claudiu COJOCARU, Livia BALU, Monica VAUPRE DAMIAN, Radu ZERO, ainsi
que de Climca Stanescu, la veuve du regretté Adrian STANESCU

17h30 Soirée &quot;Repas et contes&quot; autour des textes de Petre ISPIRESCU

Conteuses : Haydée BLANK et Ina TOSCA. Musique : William FIERRO

Le menu de la soirée sera concocté par « Les délices des Carpates »
d’Elena DUFF

Prix : 45.- (adulte) 20.- (enfants moins de 10 ans)

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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26170957</id>
	<title>Re: Pont entre les cultures</title>
	<published>2009-11-02T13:22:49Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-02T13:22:49Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Nicolae Chiurtu-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Un site util care aduna informatii despre candidatii pentru alegerile
&lt;br&gt;prezidentiale:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hartapoliticii.ro/?c=alegeri+prezidentiale+2009&amp;cid=13&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.hartapoliticii.ro/?c=alegeri+prezidentiale+2009&amp;cid=13&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cum ne-am obisnuit deja, se pare ca trebuie sa alegem raul cel mai
&lt;br&gt;mic... sper sa nu se aprinda din nou spiritele... :-)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2009/10/31 Cosmin &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26170957&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cosmin@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Care e legatura dintre festival si candidatul-spammer ? E si el prezent ?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Cosmin
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Andreea Vasile wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; DRAGILOR,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; IL stim pe REMUS CERNEA cu totii?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Pentru a il sustine, trebuie sa il cunoastem!
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hai sa ii dam o sansa de un click, pentru el ar fi un imbold motivational:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.facebook.com/remus.cernea?ref=ts&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.facebook.com/remus.cernea?ref=ts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://remuscernea.ro/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://remuscernea.ro/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Andreea Vasile
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Maastricht Shool of Business and Economics
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; HEC, UNIL Alumnus
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; On 29 Oct 2009, at 12:02, Rusu Alexandru wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; From: Adrian Rachieru [mailto:&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26170957&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;arch-i@...&lt;/a&gt;]
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Sent: mercredi, 28. octobre 2009 19:18
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; To: Cosmin Paun; Adrian Rachieru
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Subject:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Chères amies, chers amis
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Voici le programme de la 2e édition du Festival &amp;quot;Pont entre les cultures
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Roumnauie-Suisse&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Un festival riche en évenements culturels et
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; interculturels &amp;quot;helveto-roumain&amp;quot;, pour la plus part gratuites.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Je vous invite au:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; FESTIVAL PONT ENTRE LES CULTURES
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 2 - 16 NOVEMBRE 09
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ARCH-I en collaboration avec le Centre Socioculturel Pôle Sud sont les
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; principaux organisateurs de ce festival roumain qui aura lieu en plusieurs
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; salles lausannoises dans
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; le centre ville (Flon) : « Pôle Sud » et « One Year Only ». Un stand de
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; livres roumains sera ouvert à la Librairie Les Yeux Fertiles (au Flon, à la
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Place de l’Europe).
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; La figure centrale de cette manifestation est le grand poète et philosophe
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Lucian BLAGA, dont l’œuvre a inspiré des nombreux compositeurs et peintres,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; certains présents dans le festival.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Nous fêtons également les vingt ans de la chute du régime communiste
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; en Roumanie
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; OU AURA LIEU LE FESTIVAL - ADRESSES
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; - Pôle Sud, salle &amp;quot;Atelier d'Ici et d'Ailleurs&amp;quot; av. Jean-Jacques
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Mercier 3 (Flon), Lausanne
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; - One Year Only, Art &amp; Mus ic Gallery, route de Genève 60 (Flon),
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Lausanne
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; - &amp;nbsp;Librairie &amp;quot;Les Yeux Fertiles&amp;quot;, Place de l'Europe 9 (Flon), Lausanne
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; AU PROGRAMME
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; du 2 au 16 novembre, Librairie &amp;quot; Les Yeux fertiles&amp;quot; , Stand d’auteurs
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; roumains - édités en français
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; lundi 2 novembre, 17h30 - Vernissage
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Un stand de livres roumains édités en langue français mettra à
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; disposition du public des auteurs confirmés comme Eugène IONESCO, dont
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; on fête le centenaire de sa naissance Panaït ISTRATI, Herta MÜLLER,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; l’actuel Prix Nobel de littérature 2009 ainsi que beaucoup
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; d’autres, moins connus, mais dont l’oeuvre mérite tout
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; l’intérêt
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; mardi 3 novembre, salle Pôle Sud - Exposition collective de peintures
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 18h30 Vernissage en présence des artistes: Claudiu COJOCARU, Monica
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; VAUPRE DAMIAN, Livia BALU, Radu ZERO, ainsi que Climca Victoria
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Stanescu, la veuve du peintre Adrian STANESCU. L’exposition a été
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; inspirée par les œuvres de Lucian BLAGA. Discours d’inauguration et
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; verre de l’amitié
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; entrée libre
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; jeudi 5 novembre, salle One Year Only - Du classique à la chanson
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 19h30 Récital de piano de Ioana-Raluca AVRAMESCU. Cette jeune pianiste
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; de 19 ans, prodige en Roumanie, est lauréate de nombreux prix
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; internationaux. Elle interprétera plusieurs compositions de Rachmaninov
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; et Bartók
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 20h30 La vie secrète des plantes, quartet vocal féminin
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Des compositions originales imprégnées de soul, de world, de chanson.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Elles racontent des histoires, se vêtissent en plantes, rient ou
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; chuchotent, au gré de leur humeur
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; entrée: frs. 25.- / 20.-
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; vendredi 6 novembre, sale Pôle Sud - Spectacle contemporain
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 20h Les poèmes de la lumière de Lucian Blaga - trio vocal et piano
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Les yeux de son aimée sont devenus « la source de la nuit » pour le
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; poète Lucian BLAGA, et aussi source d’inspiration pour tant des
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; compositeurs roumains tel Christian Alexandru Petrescu. Ses lieds
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; enjoués parlent de l’être aimée. En première partie &amp;nbsp;Récital de
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; piano de Dinu MIHAILESCU. Œuvres de Rachmaninov, Enescu, Debussy et
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Petrescu, le tout entrelacé avec « Les poèmes de la lumière »,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; interprétées délicieusement par Ina TOSCA
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; entrée libre, chapeau
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; samedi 7 novembre, Pôle Sud - Projection et concert
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 19h00 «L’éloge du village roumain » de Lucian BLAGA
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 19h15 Projection : « Mascarades », réal. Corneliu Gheorghita, 2001 -
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Film d’ethnomusicologie sur les villages roumains de Moldavie (52
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; min.)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 20h30 Concert de musique folklorique roumaine avec « ZORIDEZI » :
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Haydée BLANK (voix), Sorin GHERALIU (cymbalum), Alexandru PATRASCU
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; (violon), Tudor TOMESCU (violon). Tant de nostalgie et de joie, tant de
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; désespoir et d’émerveillement dans cette musique balkanique, rythmée,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; syncopée, transcendante
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; entrée libre, chapeau
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Buffet de spécialités roumaines « Les délices des Carpates » concocté
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; par Elena DUFF
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; jeudi 12 novembre, Pôle Sud - Film d’art et d’essai
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 20h Film &amp;quot;GOLD&amp;quot; de Radu ZERO, 2008, 85 min. Ce film aborde
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; l’enlèvement, la disparition, la nuit, le choc entre la
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; civilisation et la nature profonde. Film métaphore, GOLD traite
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; l’intimité de personnages propres à notre temps. Accompagnement
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; musical live: Olivier JACQUEMET et PLUS2PLUS (electric vintage)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; entrée libre
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; vendredi 13 novembre, salle Pôle Sud - Vernissage de livre, projections
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 19h30 Vernissage du livre «Le migrant online. Nouveaux modèles
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; migratoires à l’ère du numérique» de Mihaela NEDELCU, Editions de
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; L’Harmattan. Présentation par l’auteure et dédicace
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; La sociologue, Mihaela Nedelcu est chargée d’enseignement et de
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; recherche à l’Institut de sociologie de l’Université de Neuchâtel.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Le migrant online est pour elle le personnage central de la modernité
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; réflexive, une figure de proue faite de contrastes, quintessence des
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; mutations sociales à la croisée des chemins de l’homo mobilis et
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; l’homo numericus.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 20h30 Le renouveau du film roumain « La mort de Dante Lazarescu », de
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Cristi PUIU, 2004, 154 min. (film primé au festival de Cannes en 2006).
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; V.O &amp;nbsp;sous-titré en français.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Cristi PUIU dépeint la solitude d’un monde moderne prétendument axé
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; sur les nouvelles technologies de communication mais où chacun peut se
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; mourir dans la plus inacceptable solitude
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; entrée libre
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; samedi 14 novembre, salle Pôle Sud - Séminaire et autres événements
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 10h Seminaire de sensibilisation sur la thématique de l’œil, donné
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; par Loriana BROCARD, musicologue, sur des illustrations de Radu ZERO.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Présentation de l’orthoptie, une science qui vise essentiellement
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; le dépistage, la rééducation, la réadaptation et l'exploration
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; fonctionnelle des troubles de la vision
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 11h L’œil dans la médecine traditionnelle chinoise, par dr. Yin
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; LIANG. Présentation de la circulation de l’énergie dans le corps et
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; les méridiens liés à l’œil. Une série d’exercices de relaxation
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; oculaire proposée par la méthode traditionnelle chinoise
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; entrée : frs. 20.-
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 18h00 «Films sur la Roumanie et la musique roumaine»
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Buffet de spécialités roumaines « Les délices des Carpates », d’Elena
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; DUFF, dès midi et le soir
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; dimanche 15 novembre, Pôle Sud - Finissage de l’expo suivi d’une soirée «
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Repas et contes » - avec réservation
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 14h00 Finissage de l’exposition collective, en présence des artistes
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; : Claudiu COJOCARU, Livia BALU, Monica VAUPRE DAMIAN, Radu ZERO, ainsi
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; que de Climca Stanescu, la veuve du regretté Adrian STANESCU
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 17h30 Soirée &amp;quot;Repas et contes&amp;quot; autour des textes de Petre ISPIRESCU
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Conteuses : Haydée BLANK et Ina TOSCA. Musique : William FIERRO
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Le menu de la soirée sera concocté par « Les délices des Carpates »
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; d’Elena DUFF
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Prix : 45.- (adulte) 20.- (enfants moins de 10 ans)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
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&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; RENSEIGNEMENTS (SUR LES SITES):
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; En français
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
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&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; En roumain
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
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&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Centre socioculturel Pôle Sud
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ++ 41 21/ 311 50 46 ; www.polesud.ch
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Association Roumanie-CH - Interculturelle (ARCH-I)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Tél : ++41 (0)76 580 53 10 &amp;nbsp; ; E-mail : &amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26170957&amp;i=3&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;arch-i@...&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Casa Romanilor, le portal des Roumains en Suisse
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; www.casa-romanilor.ch/festivalul-punte-intre-cultura-romana-si-cea-elvetiana-2009
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;recto.pdf&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ATT00001.htm&amp;gt;&amp;lt;VERSO.pdf&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ATT00002.htm&amp;gt;
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	<title>Re: Pont entre les cultures</title>
	<published>2009-10-31T04:21:36Z</published>
	<updated>2009-10-31T04:21:36Z</updated>
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		<name>Cosmin-6</name>
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Care e legatura dintre festival si candidatul-spammer ? E si el prezent
?&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Cosmin&lt;br&gt;
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Andreea Vasile wrote:
&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;mid:68DDD706-AF21-4F82-B6A8-43FB4012FAC5@gmail.com&quot; type=&quot;cite&quot;&gt;DRAGILOR, 
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  &lt;div&gt;IL stim pe REMUS CERNEA cu totii? &lt;/div&gt;
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  &lt;div&gt;Pentru a il sustine, trebuie sa il cunoastem!&lt;/div&gt;
  &lt;div&gt;Hai sa ii dam o sansa de un click, pentru el ar fi un imbold
motivational:&lt;/div&gt;
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  &lt;div&gt;&lt;a moz-do-not-send=&quot;true&quot; href=&quot;http://www.facebook.com/remus.cernea?ref=ts&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.facebook.com/remus.cernea?ref=ts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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  &lt;div&gt;Andreea Vasile&lt;/div&gt;
  &lt;div&gt;Maastricht Shool of Business and Economics&lt;/div&gt;
  &lt;div&gt;HEC, UNIL Alumnus&lt;/div&gt;
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  &lt;div&gt;On 29 Oct 2009, at 12:02, Rusu Alexandru wrote:&lt;/div&gt;
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    &lt;div style=&quot;margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma,sans-serif;&quot;&gt;From:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma,sans-serif;&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;Apple-converted-space&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Adrian Rachieru [&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26141525&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;arch-i@...&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;span class=&quot;Apple-converted-space&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;
    &lt;b&gt;Sent:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;Apple-converted-space&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;mercredi,
28. octobre 2009 19:18&lt;br&gt;
    &lt;b&gt;To:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;Apple-converted-space&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Cosmin Paun;
Adrian Rachieru&lt;br&gt;
    &lt;b&gt;Subject:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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    &lt;div style=&quot;margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;&quot;&gt;Chères
amies, chers amis&lt;br&gt;
    &lt;br&gt;
Voici le programme de la 2e édition du Festival&lt;span class=&quot;Apple-converted-space&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;apple-style-span&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt;&quot;&gt;&quot;Pont entre les cultures Roumnauie-Suisse&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&quot;&lt;br&gt;
Un festival riche en évenements culturels et
interculturels &quot;helveto-roumain&quot;, pour la plus part gratuites.&lt;br&gt;
    &lt;br&gt;
Je vous invite au:&lt;br&gt;
    &lt;br&gt;
    &lt;span class=&quot;apple-style-span&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt;&quot;&gt;FESTIVAL
PONT ENTRE LES CULTURES&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;
2 - 16 NOVEMBRE 09 &lt;br&gt;
    &lt;br&gt;
ARCH-I en collaboration avec le Centre Socioculturel Pôle Sud sont les
principaux organisateurs de ce festival roumain qui aura lieu en
plusieurs salles lausannoises dans&lt;br&gt;
le centre ville (Flon) : « Pôle Sud » et « One Year Only ». Un stand de
livres roumains sera ouvert à la Librairie Les Yeux Fertiles (au Flon,
à la Place de l’Europe).&lt;br&gt;
    &lt;br&gt;
La figure centrale de cette manifestation est le grand poète
et philosophe Lucian BLAGA, dont l’œuvre a inspiré des
nombreux compositeurs et peintres, certains présents dans le festival. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
    &lt;div&gt;
    &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;&quot;&gt;Nous
fêtons également les vingt ans de la chute du régime communiste
en Roumanie&lt;br&gt;
    &lt;br&gt;
    &lt;span class=&quot;apple-style-span&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt;&quot;&gt;OU
AURA LIEU LE FESTIVAL - ADRESS&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;ES&lt;br&gt;
    &lt;br&gt;
-&lt;span class=&quot;Apple-converted-space&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;apple-style-span&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt;&quot;&gt;Pôle S&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;ud,
salle &quot;Atelier d'Ici et d'Ailleurs&quot; av. Jean-Jacques&lt;br&gt;
Mercier 3 (Flon), Lausanne&lt;br&gt;
-&lt;span class=&quot;Apple-converted-space&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;apple-style-span&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt;&quot;&gt;One Year&lt;span class=&quot;Apple-converted-space&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Only, Art
&amp;amp; Mus ic Gallery, route de Genève 60 (Flon),&lt;br&gt;
Lausanne&lt;br&gt;
-  Librairie &quot;&lt;span class=&quot;apple-style-span&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt;&quot;&gt;Les Yeux Fert&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;apple-style-span&quot;&gt;iles&lt;/span&gt;&quot;, Place de l'Europe 9 (Flon),
Lausanne&lt;br&gt;
    &lt;br&gt;
    &lt;span class=&quot;apple-style-span&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt;&quot;&gt;AU
PROGRAMME&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;
du 2 au 16 novembre, Librairie &quot; Les Yeux fertiles&quot; , Stand d’auteurs&lt;br&gt;
roumains - édités en français&lt;br&gt;
    &lt;br&gt;
    &lt;span class=&quot;apple-style-span&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt;&quot;&gt;lundi
2 novembre, 17h30 - Vernissage&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;
    &lt;br&gt;
Un stand de livres roumains édités en langue français mettra à&lt;br&gt;
disposition du public des auteurs confirmés comme Eugène IONESCO, dont&lt;br&gt;
on fête le centenaire de sa naissance Panaït ISTRATI, Herta MÜLLER,&lt;br&gt;
l’actuel Prix Nobel de littérature 2009 ainsi que beaucoup&lt;br&gt;
d’autres, moins connus, mais dont l’oeuvre mérite tout&lt;br&gt;
l’intérêt&lt;br&gt;
    &lt;br&gt;
    &lt;span class=&quot;apple-style-span&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt;&quot;&gt;mardi
3 novembre, salle Pôle Sud - Exposition collective de peintures&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;
    &lt;br&gt;
18h30 Vernissage en présence des artistes: Claudiu COJOCARU, Monica&lt;br&gt;
VAUPRE DAMIAN, Livia BALU, Radu ZERO, ainsi que Climca Victoria&lt;br&gt;
Stanescu, la veuve du peintre Adrian STANESCU. L’exposition a été&lt;br&gt;
inspirée par les œuvres de Lucian BLAGA. Discours d’inauguration et&lt;br&gt;
verre de l’amitié &lt;br&gt;
    &lt;br&gt;
entrée libre&lt;br&gt;
    &lt;br&gt;
    &lt;span class=&quot;apple-style-span&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt;&quot;&gt;jeudi
5 novembre, salle One Year Only - Du classique à la chanson&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;
    &lt;br&gt;
19h30 Récital de piano de Ioana-Raluca AVRAMESCU. Cette jeune pianiste&lt;br&gt;
de 19 ans, prodige en Roumanie, est lauréate de nombreux prix&lt;br&gt;
internationaux. Elle interprétera plusieurs compositions de Rachmaninov&lt;br&gt;
et Bartók&lt;br&gt;
    &lt;br&gt;
20h30 La vie secrète des plantes, quartet vocal féminin&lt;br&gt;
Des compositions originales imprégnées de soul, de world, de chanson.&lt;br&gt;
Elles racontent des histoires, se vêtissent en plantes, rient ou&lt;br&gt;
chuchotent, au gré de leur humeur &lt;br&gt;
    &lt;br&gt;
entrée: frs. 25.- / 20.-&lt;br&gt;
    &lt;br&gt;
    &lt;br&gt;
    &lt;span class=&quot;apple-style-span&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt;&quot;&gt;vendredi
6 novembre, sale Pôle Sud - Spectacle contemporain&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;
    &lt;br&gt;
20h Les poèmes de la lumière de Lucian Blaga - trio vocal et piano&lt;br&gt;
Les yeux de son aimée sont devenus « la source de la nuit » pour le&lt;br&gt;
poète Lucian BLAGA, et aussi source d’inspiration pour tant des&lt;br&gt;
compositeurs roumains tel Christian Alexandru Petrescu. Ses lieds&lt;br&gt;
enjoués parlent de l’être aimée. En première partie  Récital de&lt;br&gt;
piano de Dinu MIHAILESCU. Œuvres de Rachmaninov, Enescu, Debussy et&lt;br&gt;
Petrescu, le tout entrelacé avec « Les poèmes de la lumière »,&lt;br&gt;
interprétées délicieusement par Ina TOSCA &lt;br&gt;
    &lt;br&gt;
entrée libre, chapeau&lt;br&gt;
    &lt;br&gt;
    &lt;span class=&quot;apple-style-span&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt;&quot;&gt;samedi
7 novembre, Pôle Sud - Projection et concert&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;
    &lt;br&gt;
19h00 «L’éloge du village roumain » de Lucian BLAGA&lt;br&gt;
19h15 Projection : « Mascarades », réal. Corneliu Gheorghita, 2001 -&lt;br&gt;
Film d’ethnomusicologie sur les villages roumains de Moldavie (52&lt;br&gt;
min.)&lt;br&gt;
20h30 Concert de musique folklorique roumaine avec « ZORIDEZI » : &lt;br&gt;
Haydée BLANK (voix), Sorin GHERALIU (cymbalum), Alexandru PATRASCU&lt;br&gt;
(violon), Tudor TOMESCU (violon). Tant de nostalgie et de joie, tant de&lt;br&gt;
désespoir et d’émerveillement dans cette musique balkanique, rythmée,&lt;br&gt;
syncopée, transcendante&lt;br&gt;
    &lt;br&gt;
entrée libre, chapeau&lt;br&gt;
    &lt;br&gt;
Buffet de spécialités roumaines « Les délices des Carpates » concocté&lt;br&gt;
par Elena DUFF&lt;br&gt;
    &lt;br&gt;
    &lt;br&gt;
    &lt;span class=&quot;apple-style-span&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt;&quot;&gt;jeudi
12 novembre, Pôle Sud - Film d’art et d’essai&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
    &lt;/div&gt;
    &lt;div&gt;
    &lt;div style=&quot;margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;&quot;&gt;20h
Film &quot;GOLD&quot; de Radu ZERO, 2008, 85 min. Ce film aborde&lt;br&gt;
l’enlèvement, la disparition, la nuit, le choc entre la&lt;br&gt;
civilisation et la nature profonde. Film métaphore, GOLD traite&lt;br&gt;
l’intimité de personnages propres à notre temps. Accompagnement&lt;br&gt;
musical live: Olivier JACQUEMET et PLUS2PLUS (electric vintage)&lt;br&gt;
    &lt;br&gt;
entrée libre&lt;br&gt;
    &lt;br&gt;
    &lt;br&gt;
    &lt;span class=&quot;apple-style-span&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt;&quot;&gt;vendredi
13 novembre, salle Pôle Sud - Vernissage de livre, projections&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;
    &lt;br&gt;
19h30 Vernissage du livre «Le migrant online. Nouveaux modèles&lt;br&gt;
migratoires à l’ère du numérique» de Mihaela NEDELCU, Editions de&lt;br&gt;
L’Harmattan. Présentation par l’auteure et dédicace&lt;br&gt;
    &lt;br&gt;
La sociologue, Mihaela Nedelcu est chargée d’enseignement et de&lt;br&gt;
recherche à l’Institut de sociologie de l’Université de Neuchâtel. &lt;br&gt;
Le migrant online est pour elle le personnage central de la modernité&lt;br&gt;
réflexive, une figure de proue faite de contrastes, quintessence des&lt;br&gt;
mutations sociales à la croisée des chemins de l’homo mobilis et&lt;br&gt;
l’homo numericus.&lt;br&gt;
    &lt;br&gt;
20h30 Le renouveau du film roumain « La mort de Dante Lazarescu », de&lt;br&gt;
Cristi PUIU, 2004, 154 min. (film primé au festival de Cannes en 2006).&lt;br&gt;
V.O  sous-titré en français.&lt;br&gt;
    &lt;br&gt;
Cristi PUIU dépeint la solitude d’un monde moderne prétendument axé&lt;br&gt;
sur les nouvelles technologies de communication mais où chacun peut se&lt;br&gt;
mourir dans la plus inacceptable solitude&lt;br&gt;
    &lt;br&gt;
entrée libre&lt;br&gt;
    &lt;br&gt;
    &lt;br&gt;
    &lt;span class=&quot;apple-style-span&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt;&quot;&gt;samedi
14 novembre, salle Pôle Sud - Séminaire et autres événements&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;
    &lt;br&gt;
10h Seminaire de sensibilisation sur la thématique de l’œil, donné&lt;br&gt;
par Loriana BROCARD, musicologue, sur des illustrations de Radu ZERO.&lt;br&gt;
Présentation de l’orthoptie, une science qui vise essentiellement&lt;br&gt;
le dépistage, la rééducation, la réadaptation et l'exploration&lt;br&gt;
fonctionnelle des troubles de la vision&lt;br&gt;
    &lt;br&gt;
11h L’œil dans la médecine traditionnelle chinoise, par dr. Yin&lt;br&gt;
LIANG. Présentation de la circulation de l’énergie dans le corps et&lt;br&gt;
les méridiens liés à l’œil. Une série d’exercices de relaxation&lt;br&gt;
oculaire proposée par la méthode traditionnelle chinoise&lt;br&gt;
    &lt;br&gt;
entrée : frs. 20.-&lt;br&gt;
    &lt;br&gt;
18h00 «Films sur la Roumanie et la musique roumaine» &lt;br&gt;
Buffet de spécialités roumaines « Les délices des Carpates », d’Elena&lt;br&gt;
DUFF, dès midi et le soir&lt;br&gt;
    &lt;br&gt;
    &lt;span class=&quot;apple-style-span&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt;&quot;&gt;dimanche
15 novembre, Pôle Sud - Finissage de l’expo suivi d’une soirée « Repas
et contes&lt;span class=&quot;Apple-converted-space&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;»
- avec réservation&lt;br&gt;
    &lt;br&gt;
14h00 Finissage de l’exposition collective, en présence des artistes&lt;br&gt;
: Claudiu COJOCARU, Livia BALU, Monica VAUPRE DAMIAN, Radu ZERO, ainsi&lt;br&gt;
que de Climca Stanescu, la veuve du regretté Adrian STANESCU&lt;br&gt;
    &lt;br&gt;
17h30 Soirée &quot;Repas et contes&quot; autour des textes de Petre ISPIRESCU&lt;br&gt;
    &lt;br&gt;
Conteuses : Haydée BLANK et Ina TOSCA. Musique : William FIERRO&lt;br&gt;
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Le menu de la soirée sera concocté par « Les délices des Carpates »&lt;br&gt;
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	<title>Re: Pont entre les cultures</title>
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	<content type="html">&lt;html&gt;&lt;body style=&quot;word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; &quot;&gt;DRAGILOR,&amp;nbsp;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;IL stim pe REMUS CERNEA cu totii?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Pentru a il sustine, trebuie sa il cunoastem!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Hai sa ii dam o sansa de un click, pentru el ar fi un imbold motivational:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.facebook.com/remus.cernea?ref=ts&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.facebook.com/remus.cernea?ref=ts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://remuscernea.ro/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://remuscernea.ro/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Andreea Vasile&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Maastricht Shool of Business and Economics&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;HEC, UNIL Alumnus&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;On 29 Oct 2009, at 12:02, Rusu Alexandru wrote:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br class=&quot;Apple-interchange-newline&quot;&gt;&lt;blockquote type=&quot;cite&quot;&gt;&lt;div lang=&quot;EN-US&quot; link=&quot;blue&quot; vlink=&quot;purple&quot; style=&quot;word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; &quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;Section1&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding-top: 3pt; padding-right: 0cm; padding-bottom: 0cm; padding-left: 0cm; &quot;&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; &quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; &quot;&gt;From:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; &quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;Apple-converted-space&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Adrian Rachieru [&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26138661&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;arch-i@...&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;span class=&quot;Apple-converted-space&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;Sent:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;Apple-converted-space&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;mercredi, 28. octobre 2009 19:18&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;To:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;Apple-converted-space&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Cosmin Paun; Adrian Rachieru&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;Subject:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; &quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; &quot;&gt;Chères amies, chers amis&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Voici le programme de la 2e édition du Festival&lt;span class=&quot;Apple-converted-space&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;apple-style-span&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; &quot;&gt;&quot;Pont entre les&amp;nbsp;cultures Roumnauie-Suisse&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&quot;&lt;br&gt;Un festival riche en évenements culturels et interculturels&amp;nbsp;&quot;helveto-roumain&quot;, pour la plus part gratuites.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Je vous invite au:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;apple-style-span&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; &quot;&gt;FESTIVAL PONT ENTRE LES CULTURES&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;2 - 16 NOVEMBRE 09&amp;nbsp;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;ARCH-I en collaboration avec le Centre Socioculturel Pôle Sud sont les principaux organisateurs de ce&amp;nbsp;festival roumain qui aura lieu en plusieurs salles lausannoises dans&lt;br&gt;le centre ville (Flon) : « Pôle Sud » et « One Year Only ». Un stand de livres roumains sera ouvert à la Librairie Les Yeux Fertiles (au Flon, à&amp;nbsp;la Place de l’Europe).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;La figure centrale de cette manifestation est le grand poète et&amp;nbsp;philosophe Lucian BLAGA, dont l’œuvre a inspiré des nombreux&amp;nbsp;compositeurs et peintres, certains présents dans le festival.&amp;nbsp;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 12pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; &quot;&gt;Nous fêtons également les vingt ans de la chute du régime communiste en&amp;nbsp;Roumanie&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;apple-style-span&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; &quot;&gt;OU AURA LIEU LE FESTIVAL - ADRESS&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;ES&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-&lt;span class=&quot;Apple-converted-space&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;apple-style-span&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; &quot;&gt;Pôle S&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;ud, salle &quot;Atelier d'Ici et d'Ailleurs&quot; av. Jean-Jacques&lt;br&gt;Mercier 3 (Flon), Lausanne&lt;br&gt;-&lt;span class=&quot;Apple-converted-space&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;apple-style-span&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; &quot;&gt;One Year&lt;span class=&quot;Apple-converted-space&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Only, Art &amp;amp; Mus ic Gallery, route de Genève 60 (Flon),&lt;br&gt;Lausanne&lt;br&gt;- &amp;nbsp;Librairie &quot;&lt;span class=&quot;apple-style-span&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; &quot;&gt;Les Yeux Fert&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;apple-style-span&quot;&gt;iles&lt;/span&gt;&quot;, Place de l'Europe 9 (Flon), Lausanne&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;apple-style-span&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; &quot;&gt;AU PROGRAMME&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;du 2 au 16 novembre, Librairie &quot; Les Yeux fertiles&quot; , Stand d’auteurs&lt;br&gt;roumains - édités en français&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;apple-style-span&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; &quot;&gt;lundi 2 novembre, 17h30 - Vernissage&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Un stand de livres roumains édités en langue français mettra à&lt;br&gt;disposition du public des auteurs confirmés comme Eugène IONESCO, dont&lt;br&gt;on fête le centenaire de sa naissance Panaït ISTRATI, Herta MÜLLER,&lt;br&gt;l’actuel Prix Nobel de littérature 2009 ainsi que beaucoup&lt;br&gt;d’autres, moins connus, mais dont l’oeuvre mérite tout&lt;br&gt;l’intérêt&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;apple-style-span&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; &quot;&gt;mardi 3 novembre, salle Pôle Sud - Exposition collective de peintures&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;18h30 Vernissage en présence des artistes: Claudiu COJOCARU, Monica&lt;br&gt;VAUPRE DAMIAN, Livia BALU, Radu ZERO, ainsi que Climca Victoria&lt;br&gt;Stanescu, la veuve du peintre Adrian STANESCU. L’exposition a été&lt;br&gt;inspirée par les œuvres de Lucian BLAGA. Discours d’inauguration et&lt;br&gt;verre de l’amitié&amp;nbsp;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;entrée libre&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;apple-style-span&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; &quot;&gt;jeudi 5 novembre, salle One Year Only - Du classique à la chanson&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;19h30 Récital de piano de Ioana-Raluca AVRAMESCU. Cette jeune pianiste&lt;br&gt;de 19 ans, prodige en Roumanie, est lauréate de nombreux prix&lt;br&gt;internationaux. Elle interprétera plusieurs compositions de Rachmaninov&lt;br&gt;et Bartók&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;20h30 La vie secrète des plantes, quartet vocal féminin&lt;br&gt;Des compositions originales imprégnées de soul, de world, de chanson.&lt;br&gt;Elles racontent des histoires, se vêtissent en plantes, rient ou&lt;br&gt;chuchotent, au gré de leur humeur&amp;nbsp;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;entrée: frs. 25.- / 20.-&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;apple-style-span&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; &quot;&gt;vendredi 6 novembre, sale Pôle Sud - Spectacle contemporain&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;20h Les poèmes de la lumière de Lucian Blaga - trio vocal et piano&lt;br&gt;Les yeux de son aimée sont devenus « la source de la nuit » pour le&lt;br&gt;poète Lucian BLAGA, et aussi source d’inspiration pour tant des&lt;br&gt;compositeurs roumains tel Christian Alexandru Petrescu. Ses lieds&lt;br&gt;enjoués parlent de l’être aimée. En première partie &amp;nbsp;Récital de&lt;br&gt;piano de Dinu MIHAILESCU. Œuvres de Rachmaninov, Enescu, Debussy et&lt;br&gt;Petrescu, le tout entrelacé avec « Les poèmes de la lumière »,&lt;br&gt;interprétées délicieusement par Ina TOSCA&amp;nbsp;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;entrée libre, chapeau&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;apple-style-span&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; &quot;&gt;samedi 7 novembre, Pôle Sud - Projection et concert&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;19h00 «L’éloge du village roumain » de Lucian BLAGA&lt;br&gt;19h15 Projection : « Mascarades », réal. Corneliu Gheorghita, 2001 -&lt;br&gt;Film d’ethnomusicologie sur les villages roumains de Moldavie (52&lt;br&gt;min.)&lt;br&gt;20h30 Concert de musique folklorique roumaine avec « ZORIDEZI » :&amp;nbsp;&lt;br&gt;Haydée BLANK (voix), Sorin GHERALIU (cymbalum), Alexandru PATRASCU&lt;br&gt;(violon), Tudor TOMESCU (violon). Tant de nostalgie et de joie, tant de&lt;br&gt;désespoir et d’émerveillement dans cette musique balkanique, rythmée,&lt;br&gt;syncopée, transcendante&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;entrée libre, chapeau&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Buffet de spécialités roumaines « Les délices des Carpates » concocté&lt;br&gt;par Elena DUFF&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;apple-style-span&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; &quot;&gt;jeudi 12 novembre, Pôle Sud - Film d’art et d’essai&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; &quot;&gt;20h Film &quot;GOLD&quot; de Radu ZERO, 2008, 85 min. Ce film aborde&lt;br&gt;l’enlèvement, la disparition, la nuit, le choc entre la&lt;br&gt;civilisation et la nature profonde. Film métaphore, GOLD traite&lt;br&gt;l’intimité de personnages propres à notre temps. Accompagnement&lt;br&gt;musical live: Olivier JACQUEMET et PLUS2PLUS (electric vintage)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;entrée libre&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;apple-style-span&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; &quot;&gt;vendredi 13 novembre, salle Pôle Sud - Vernissage de livre,&amp;nbsp;projections&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;19h30 Vernissage du livre «Le migrant online. Nouveaux modèles&lt;br&gt;migratoires à l’ère du numérique» de Mihaela NEDELCU, Editions de&lt;br&gt;L’Harmattan. 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Yin&lt;br&gt;LIANG. Présentation de la circulation de l’énergie dans le corps et&lt;br&gt;les méridiens liés à l’œil. Une série d’exercices de relaxation&lt;br&gt;oculaire proposée par la méthode traditionnelle chinoise&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;entrée : frs. 20.-&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;18h00 «Films sur la Roumanie et la musique roumaine»&amp;nbsp;&lt;br&gt;Buffet de spécialités roumaines « Les délices des Carpates », d’Elena&lt;br&gt;DUFF, dès midi et le soir&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;apple-style-span&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; &quot;&gt;dimanche 15 novembre, Pôle Sud - Finissage de l’expo suivi d’une&amp;nbsp;soirée « Repas et contes&lt;span class=&quot;Apple-converted-space&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;» - avec réservation&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;14h00 Finissage de l’exposition collective, en présence des artistes&lt;br&gt;: Claudiu COJOCARU, Livia BALU, Monica VAUPRE DAMIAN, Radu ZERO, ainsi&lt;br&gt;que de Climca Stanescu, la veuve du regretté Adrian STANESCU&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;17h30 Soirée &quot;Repas et contes&quot; autour des textes de Petre ISPIRESCU&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Conteuses : Haydée BLANK et Ina TOSCA. Musique : William FIERRO&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Le menu de la soirée sera concocté par « Les délices des Carpates »&lt;br&gt;d’Elena DUFF&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Prix : 45.- (adulte) 20.- (enfants moins de 10 ans)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Réservations recommandées chez : Adrian RACHIERU&lt;br&gt;Tél : &amp;nbsp;076 580 53 10 &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;E-mail :&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26138661&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;arch-i@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;apple-style-span&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; &quot;&gt;RENSEIGNEMENTS (SUR LES SITES):&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;En français&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.polesud.ch/atelier_ici_ailleurs/PIMENT_GLACE/quinzaine-roumaine.htm&quot; style=&quot;color: blue; text-decoration: underline; &quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.polesud.ch/atelier_ici_ailleurs/PIMENT_GLACE/quinzaine-roumaine.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;En roumain&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.casa-romanilor.ch/festivalul-punte-intre-cultura-romana-si-cea-elvetiana-2009&quot; style=&quot;color: blue; text-decoration: underline; &quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.casa-romanilor.ch/festivalul-punte-intre-cultura-romana-si-cea-elvetiana-2009&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;RENSEIGNEMENTS (TEL ; &amp;nbsp;E-MAIL)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Centre socioculturel Pôle Sud&lt;br&gt;++ 41 21/ 311 50 46 ;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.polesud.ch/&quot; style=&quot;color: blue; text-decoration: underline; &quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.polesud.ch&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Association Roumanie-CH - Interculturelle (ARCH-I)&lt;br&gt;Tél : ++41 (0)76 580 53 10 &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;; E-mail : &amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26138661&amp;i=2&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;arch-i@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Casa Romanilor, le portal des Roumains en Suisse&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.casa-romanilor.ch/festivalul-punte-intre-cultura-romana-si-cea-elvetiana-2009&quot; style=&quot;color: blue; text-decoration: underline; &quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.casa-romanilor.ch/festivalul-punte-intre-cultura-romana-si-cea-elvetiana-2009&lt;/a&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;lt;recto.pdf&amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;lt;ATT00001.htm&amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;lt;VERSO.pdf&amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;lt;ATT00002.htm&amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26122821</id>
	<title>conferinta Vladimir Tismaneanu, Geneva, 26 Nov</title>
	<published>2009-10-29T16:49:48Z</published>
	<updated>2009-10-29T16:49:48Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Paul-391</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;div&gt;   Dragi prieteni,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Va rog, daca sunteti interesati, sa va inscrieti trimitand un mail d-rei Silvia Suteu:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26122821&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;silvia.suteu@...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Pe 26 noiembrie, Fundatia Pierre du Bois il va avea ca invitat pe profesorul Vladimir&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Tismaneanu, care va vorbi pe tema &amp;quot;The Revolutions of 1989 and Their Legacies&amp;quot;. Mai multe&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;informatii gasiti la urmatoarea adresa&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fondation-pierredubois.ch/Colloques-et-conferences-publiques/conference-par-m-v-tismaneanu.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.fondation-pierredubois.ch/Colloques-et-conferences-publiques/conference-par-m-v-tismaneanu.html&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;si in posterul atasat. De asemenea, d-l Tismaneanu a publicat recent pe aceasta tema in&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Revista 22&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.revista22.ro/miraculosul-an-1989-exit-voce-351i-colapsul-rdg-6818.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.revista22.ro/miraculosul-an-1989-exit-voce-351i-colapsul-rdg-6818.html&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;si in Times Literary Supplement&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/the_tls/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/the_tls/&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; (in curs de&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;aparitie).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Datele practice ale intalnirii sunt urmatoarele:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Vladimir Tismaneanu, &amp;quot;The Revolutions of 1989 and Their Legacies&amp;quot;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;26 Nov. 2009, 18h30&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Auditoire Jacques Freymond&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Graduate Institute of International and Development Studies&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;(Institut de hautes études internationales et du développement)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Maphere&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&amp;amp;source=s_q&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;geocode=&amp;amp;q=Auditoire+Jacques+Freymond&amp;amp;sll=46.22284,6.139984&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&amp;amp;source=s_q&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;geocode=&amp;amp;q=Auditoire+Jacques+Freymond&amp;amp;sll=46.22284,6.139984&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;amp;sspn=0.067577,0.181789&amp;amp;ie=UTF8&amp;amp;hq=Auditoire+Jacques+Freymond&amp;amp;hnear=&amp;amp;z=13&amp;amp;iwloc=A&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;V-as fi recunoscatoare daca ati transmite acest mesaj tuturor celor potential interesati&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;(studenti, profesori etc.) Va multumesc si va stau la dispozitie pentru eventuale intrebari.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Numai bine si, sper, pe curand,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Silvia&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26119525</id>
	<title>bun venit</title>
	<published>2009-10-29T12:44:45Z</published>
	<updated>2009-10-29T12:44:45Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Maria Mateescu</name>
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	<content type="html">Bun venit Arianei si Oanei!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;------------------------------------
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hello!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Scurta prezentare:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ma numesc Ariana Cordos sunt studenta la UMF Cluj-Napoca, Facultatea
&lt;br&gt;de Moase si Asistenta Medicala, anul 4. Stau in Lausanne pentru 5
&lt;br&gt;luni, in perioada septembrie 2009 – ianuarie 2009. Sunt aici inca cu o
&lt;br&gt;prietena Oana Pop si colega de altfel.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ce alt ceva?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ne-ar placea sa cunoastem romani, sa petrecem timp cu ei.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ne place sa iesim in cluburi, sa dansam, ne place muzica...dar mai
&lt;br&gt;mult cea romaneasca...si daca se poate sa fie si ROCK :D
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ne place sa calatorim, ne plac muntii, de aceea ne-ar placea foarte
&lt;br&gt;mult sa se organizeze excursii.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Habar n-am ce inseamna prezentare :P
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sper sa fie OK
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mersi,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;____________
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ary. SiMpLy Me
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ariana-Anamaria CORDOS
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Adresse: Av. de Beaumont, 21
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;           1011, Lausanne, Suisse
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;e-mail: &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26119525&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;acordos@...&lt;/a&gt;
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&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;phone: +41 799 03 43 47
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;From: &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26119525&amp;i=2&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;zambet@...&lt;/a&gt; [mailto:&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26119525&amp;i=3&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;zambet@...&lt;/a&gt;] On Behalf Of Maria Mateescu
&lt;br&gt;Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 2:58 PM
&lt;br&gt;To: &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26119525&amp;i=4&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ary_scorpi2003@...&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;br&gt;Subject: ro@listes
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Salut,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ne bucuram ca te intereseaza lista noastra de discutii! :-).
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Traditia cere sa'mi trimiti o scurta prezentare a ta prin care sa te pot
&lt;br&gt;anunta pe grup.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cu bine,
&lt;br&gt;Maria.
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	<title>FW: Pont entre les cultures</title>
	<published>2009-10-29T04:02:26Z</published>
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		<name>Alexandru Rusu</name>
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&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;'&gt;From:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;'&gt; Adrian Rachieru
[mailto:&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26110942&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;arch-i@...&lt;/a&gt;] &lt;br&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Sent:&lt;/b&gt; mercredi, 28. octobre 2009 19:18&lt;br&gt;
&lt;b&gt;To:&lt;/b&gt; Cosmin Paun; Adrian Rachieru&lt;br&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Subject:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;Chères amies, chers amis&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Voici le programme de la 2e édition du Festival &lt;span class=apple-style-span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:9.0pt'&gt;&amp;quot;Pont entre les&amp;nbsp;cultures Roumnauie-Suisse&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&amp;quot;&lt;br&gt;
Un festival riche en évenements culturels et
interculturels&amp;nbsp;&amp;quot;helveto-roumain&amp;quot;, pour la plus part gratuites.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Je vous invite au:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;span class=apple-style-span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:9.0pt'&gt;FESTIVAL PONT
ENTRE LES CULTURES&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;
2 - 16 NOVEMBRE 09&amp;nbsp;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
ARCH-I en collaboration avec le Centre Socioculturel Pôle Sud sont les
principaux organisateurs de ce&amp;nbsp;festival roumain qui aura lieu en plusieurs
salles lausannoises dans&lt;br&gt;
le centre ville (Flon) : « Pôle Sud » et « One Year Only ». Un stand de livres
roumains sera ouvert à la Librairie Les Yeux Fertiles (au Flon, à&amp;nbsp;la Place
de l’Europe).&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
La figure centrale de cette manifestation est le grand poète et&amp;nbsp;philosophe
Lucian BLAGA, dont l’œuvre a inspiré des nombreux&amp;nbsp;compositeurs et
peintres, certains présents dans le festival.&amp;nbsp;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'&gt;Nous fêtons également les vingt
ans de la chute du régime communiste en&amp;nbsp;Roumanie&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;span class=apple-style-span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:9.0pt'&gt;OU AURA LIEU LE
FESTIVAL - ADRESS&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;ES&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
- &lt;span class=apple-style-span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:9.0pt'&gt;Pôle S&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;ud,
salle &amp;quot;Atelier d'Ici et d'Ailleurs&amp;quot; av. Jean-Jacques&lt;br&gt;
Mercier 3 (Flon), Lausanne&lt;br&gt;
- &lt;span class=apple-style-span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:9.0pt'&gt;One Year &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Only,
Art &amp;amp; Mus ic Gallery, route de Genève 60 (Flon),&lt;br&gt;
Lausanne&lt;br&gt;
- &amp;nbsp;Librairie &amp;quot;&lt;span class=apple-style-span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:
9.0pt'&gt;Les Yeux Fert&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=apple-style-span&gt;iles&lt;/span&gt;&amp;quot;,
Place de l'Europe 9 (Flon), Lausanne&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;span class=apple-style-span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:9.0pt'&gt;AU PROGRAMME&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;
du 2 au 16 novembre, Librairie &amp;quot; Les Yeux fertiles&amp;quot; , Stand d’auteurs&lt;br&gt;
roumains - édités en français&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;span class=apple-style-span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:9.0pt'&gt;lundi 2 novembre,
17h30 - Vernissage&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Un stand de livres roumains édités en langue français mettra à&lt;br&gt;
disposition du public des auteurs confirmés comme Eugène IONESCO, dont&lt;br&gt;
on fête le centenaire de sa naissance Panaït ISTRATI, Herta MÜLLER,&lt;br&gt;
l’actuel Prix Nobel de littérature 2009 ainsi que beaucoup&lt;br&gt;
d’autres, moins connus, mais dont l’oeuvre mérite tout&lt;br&gt;
l’intérêt&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;span class=apple-style-span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:9.0pt'&gt;mardi 3 novembre,
salle Pôle Sud - Exposition collective de peintures&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
18h30 Vernissage en présence des artistes: Claudiu COJOCARU, Monica&lt;br&gt;
VAUPRE DAMIAN, Livia BALU, Radu ZERO, ainsi que Climca Victoria&lt;br&gt;
Stanescu, la veuve du peintre Adrian STANESCU. L’exposition a été&lt;br&gt;
inspirée par les œuvres de Lucian BLAGA. Discours d’inauguration et&lt;br&gt;
verre de l’amitié&amp;nbsp;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
entrée libre&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;span class=apple-style-span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:9.0pt'&gt;jeudi 5 novembre,
salle One Year Only - Du classique à la chanson&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
19h30 Récital de piano de Ioana-Raluca AVRAMESCU. Cette jeune pianiste&lt;br&gt;
de 19 ans, prodige en Roumanie, est lauréate de nombreux prix&lt;br&gt;
internationaux. Elle interprétera plusieurs compositions de Rachmaninov&lt;br&gt;
et Bartók&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
20h30 La vie secrète des plantes, quartet vocal féminin&lt;br&gt;
Des compositions originales imprégnées de soul, de world, de chanson.&lt;br&gt;
Elles racontent des histoires, se vêtissent en plantes, rient ou&lt;br&gt;
chuchotent, au gré de leur humeur&amp;nbsp;&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;br&gt;
20h Les poèmes de la lumière de Lucian Blaga - trio vocal et piano&lt;br&gt;
Les yeux de son aimée sont devenus « la source de la nuit » pour le&lt;br&gt;
poète Lucian BLAGA, et aussi source d’inspiration pour tant des&lt;br&gt;
compositeurs roumains tel Christian Alexandru Petrescu. Ses lieds&lt;br&gt;
enjoués parlent de l’être aimée. En première partie &amp;nbsp;Récital de&lt;br&gt;
piano de Dinu MIHAILESCU. Œuvres de Rachmaninov, Enescu, Debussy et&lt;br&gt;
Petrescu, le tout entrelacé avec « Les poèmes de la lumière »,&lt;br&gt;
interprétées délicieusement par Ina TOSCA&amp;nbsp;&lt;br&gt;
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entrée libre, chapeau&lt;br&gt;
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19h00 «L’éloge du village roumain » de Lucian BLAGA&lt;br&gt;
19h15 Projection : « Mascarades », réal. Corneliu Gheorghita, 2001 -&lt;br&gt;
Film d’ethnomusicologie sur les villages roumains de Moldavie (52&lt;br&gt;
min.)&lt;br&gt;
20h30 Concert de musique folklorique roumaine avec « ZORIDEZI » :&amp;nbsp;&lt;br&gt;
Haydée BLANK (voix), Sorin GHERALIU (cymbalum), Alexandru PATRASCU&lt;br&gt;
(violon), Tudor TOMESCU (violon). Tant de nostalgie et de joie, tant de&lt;br&gt;
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syncopée, transcendante&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
entrée libre, chapeau&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Buffet de spécialités roumaines « Les délices des Carpates » concocté&lt;br&gt;
par Elena DUFF&lt;br&gt;
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film aborde&lt;br&gt;
l’enlèvement, la disparition, la nuit, le choc entre la&lt;br&gt;
civilisation et la nature profonde. Film métaphore, GOLD traite&lt;br&gt;
l’intimité de personnages propres à notre temps. Accompagnement&lt;br&gt;
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entrée libre&lt;br&gt;
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novembre, salle Pôle Sud - Vernissage de livre,&amp;nbsp;projections&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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19h30 Vernissage du livre «Le migrant online. Nouveaux modèles&lt;br&gt;
migratoires à l’ère du numérique» de Mihaela NEDELCU, Editions de&lt;br&gt;
L’Harmattan. Présentation par l’auteure et dédicace&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
La sociologue, Mihaela Nedelcu est chargée d’enseignement et de&lt;br&gt;
recherche à l’Institut de sociologie de l’Université de Neuchâtel.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br&gt;
Le migrant online est pour elle le personnage central de la modernité&lt;br&gt;
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V.O &amp;nbsp;sous-titré en français.&lt;br&gt;
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Cristi PUIU dépeint la solitude d’un monde moderne prétendument axé&lt;br&gt;
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mourir dans la plus inacceptable solitude&lt;br&gt;
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entrée libre&lt;br&gt;
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10h Seminaire de sensibilisation sur la thématique de l’œil, donné&lt;br&gt;
par Loriana BROCARD, musicologue, sur des illustrations de Radu ZERO.&lt;br&gt;
Présentation de l’orthoptie, une science qui vise essentiellement&lt;br&gt;
le dépistage, la rééducation, la réadaptation et l'exploration&lt;br&gt;
fonctionnelle des troubles de la vision&lt;br&gt;
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LIANG. Présentation de la circulation de l’énergie dans le corps et&lt;br&gt;
les méridiens liés à l’œil. Une série d’exercices de relaxation&lt;br&gt;
oculaire proposée par la méthode traditionnelle chinoise&lt;br&gt;
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18h00 «Films sur la Roumanie et la musique roumaine»&amp;nbsp;&lt;br&gt;
Buffet de spécialités roumaines « Les délices des Carpates », d’Elena&lt;br&gt;
DUFF, dès midi et le soir&lt;br&gt;
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14h00 Finissage de l’exposition collective, en présence des artistes&lt;br&gt;
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que de Climca Stanescu, la veuve du regretté Adrian STANESCU&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
17h30 Soirée &amp;quot;Repas et contes&amp;quot; autour des textes de Petre ISPIRESCU&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Conteuses : Haydée BLANK et Ina TOSCA. Musique : William FIERRO&lt;br&gt;
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	<title>Re: FW: Invitatie: Vladimir Tismaneanu la Geneva, 26 noiembrie</title>
	<published>2009-10-27T23:49:56Z</published>
	<updated>2009-10-27T23:49:56Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>tudor.ratiu</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Buna dimineata,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Multumesc mult pentru anunt. As fi venit dar sunt plecat
&lt;br&gt;in acea perioada la Berkeley si la Caltech.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Toate cele bune
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Tudor Ratiu
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Quoting Arion Petre Alexandru &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26090087&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;alexandru.arion@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ________________________________________
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; From: Silvia Suteu [&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26090087&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;silvia.suteu@...&lt;/a&gt;]
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 14:22
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; To: Silvia Suteu
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Cc: Mihaela Feher; Theodora Dascalu; Rusu Alexandru; Renato Iliescu; &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; NEDELCU Mihaela Florina; Dragos Iulian; Ciressan Nicoleta-Diana; BSc &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Miruna; bianca sarbu LSRS; Arion Petre Alexandru; alexandra ciobanu &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; LSRS; Simona Diaconu; Mateescu Maria-Emanuela-Canini; Meda Gautschi; &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26090087&amp;i=2&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;isabel.krek@...&lt;/a&gt;; Beatrice Anton
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Subject: Invitatie: Vladimir Tismaneanu la Geneva, 26 noiembrie
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Buna,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Numele meu e Silvia Suteu, sunt studenta la Master in drept &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; international la IHEID in Geneva si va scriu in legatura cu un &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; eveniment de interes pentru comunitatile de romani din Elvetia. Pe &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 26 noiembrie, Fundatia Pierre du Bois il va avea ca invitat pe &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; profesorul Vladimir Tismaneanu, care va vorbi pe tema &amp;quot;The &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Revolutions of 1989 and Their Legacies&amp;quot;. Mai multe informatii gasiti &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; la urmatoarea adresa &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fondation-pierredubois.ch/Colloques-et-conferences-publiques/conference-par-m-v-tismaneanu.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.fondation-pierredubois.ch/Colloques-et-conferences-publiques/conference-par-m-v-tismaneanu.html&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; si in posterul atasat. De asemenea, d-l Tismaneanu a publicat recent pe aceasta tema in Revista 22&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.revista22.ro/miraculosul-an-1989-exit-voce-351i-colapsul-rdg-6818.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.revista22.ro/miraculosul-an-1989-exit-voce-351i-colapsul-rdg-6818.html&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; si in Times Literary Supplement &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/the_tls/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/the_tls/&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; (in curs de &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; aparitie).
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Datele practice ale intalnirii sunt urmatoarele:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Vladimir Tismaneanu, &amp;quot;The Revolutions of 1989 and Their Legacies&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 26 Nov. 2009, 18h30
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Auditoire Jacques Freymond
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Graduate Institute of International and Development Studies
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; (Institut de hautes études internationales et du développement)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Map &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; here&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&amp;source=s_q&amp;hl=en&amp;geocode=&amp;q=Auditoire+Jacques+Freymond&amp;sll=46.22284,6.139984&amp;sspn=0.067577,0.181789&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;hq=Auditoire+Jacques+Freymond&amp;hnear=&amp;z=13&amp;iwloc=A&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&amp;source=s_q&amp;hl=en&amp;geocode=&amp;q=Auditoire+Jacques+Freymond&amp;sll=46.22284,6.139984&amp;sspn=0.067577,0.181789&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;hq=Auditoire+Jacques+Freymond&amp;hnear=&amp;z=13&amp;iwloc=A&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; V-as fi recunoscatoare daca ati transmite acest mesaj tuturor celor &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; potential interesati (studenti, profesori etc.) Va multumesc si va &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; stau la dispozitie pentru eventuale intrebari.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Numai bine si, sper, pe curand,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Silvia
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
&lt;br&gt;Tudor Ratiu
&lt;br&gt;Department of Mathematics, Station 8
&lt;br&gt;Chair of Geometric Analysis
&lt;br&gt;Director, Bernoulli Center
&lt;br&gt;Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne
&lt;br&gt;CH-1015 Lausanne, Switzerland
&lt;br&gt;Mathematics office phone: 41 21 693 2777
&lt;br&gt;Mathematics office fax: 41 21 693 5440
&lt;br&gt;Mathematics secretary, Mrs. Marcia Gouffon: 41 21 693 5555
&lt;br&gt;Bernoulli Center phone: 41 21 693 0345
&lt;br&gt;Bernoulli Center secretary, Mrs. Christiane de Paola: 41 21 693 2583
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26080390</id>
	<title>FW: Invitatie: Vladimir Tismaneanu la Geneva, 26 noiembrie</title>
	<published>2009-10-27T09:06:36Z</published>
	<updated>2009-10-27T09:06:36Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Alexandru Arion-3</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;________________________________________
&lt;br&gt;From: Silvia Suteu [&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26080390&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;silvia.suteu@...&lt;/a&gt;]
&lt;br&gt;Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 14:22
&lt;br&gt;To: Silvia Suteu
&lt;br&gt;Cc: Mihaela Feher; Theodora Dascalu; Rusu Alexandru; Renato Iliescu; NEDELCU Mihaela Florina; Dragos Iulian; Ciressan Nicoleta-Diana; BSc Miruna; bianca sarbu LSRS; Arion Petre Alexandru; alexandra ciobanu LSRS; Simona Diaconu; Mateescu Maria-Emanuela-Canini; Meda Gautschi; &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26080390&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;isabel.krek@...&lt;/a&gt;; Beatrice Anton
&lt;br&gt;Subject: Invitatie: Vladimir Tismaneanu la Geneva, 26 noiembrie
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Buna,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Numele meu e Silvia Suteu, sunt studenta la Master in drept international la IHEID in Geneva si va scriu in legatura cu un eveniment de interes pentru comunitatile de romani din Elvetia. Pe 26 noiembrie, Fundatia Pierre du Bois il va avea ca invitat pe profesorul Vladimir Tismaneanu, care va vorbi pe tema &amp;quot;The Revolutions of 1989 and Their Legacies&amp;quot;. Mai multe informatii gasiti la urmatoarea adresa &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fondation-pierredubois.ch/Colloques-et-conferences-publiques/conference-par-m-v-tismaneanu.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.fondation-pierredubois.ch/Colloques-et-conferences-publiques/conference-par-m-v-tismaneanu.html&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; si in posterul atasat. De asemenea, d-l Tismaneanu a publicat recent pe aceasta tema in Revista 22&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.revista22.ro/miraculosul-an-1989-exit-voce-351i-colapsul-rdg-6818.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.revista22.ro/miraculosul-an-1989-exit-voce-351i-colapsul-rdg-6818.html&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; si in Times Literary Supplement &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/the_tls/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/the_tls/&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; (in curs de aparitie).
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Datele practice ale intalnirii sunt urmatoarele:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Vladimir Tismaneanu, &amp;quot;The Revolutions of 1989 and Their Legacies&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;26 Nov. 2009, 18h30
&lt;br&gt;Auditoire Jacques Freymond
&lt;br&gt;Graduate Institute of International and Development Studies
&lt;br&gt;(Institut de hautes études internationales et du développement)
&lt;br&gt;Map here&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&amp;source=s_q&amp;hl=en&amp;geocode=&amp;q=Auditoire+Jacques+Freymond&amp;sll=46.22284,6.139984&amp;sspn=0.067577,0.181789&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;hq=Auditoire+Jacques+Freymond&amp;hnear=&amp;z=13&amp;iwloc=A&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&amp;source=s_q&amp;hl=en&amp;geocode=&amp;q=Auditoire+Jacques+Freymond&amp;sll=46.22284,6.139984&amp;sspn=0.067577,0.181789&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;hq=Auditoire+Jacques+Freymond&amp;hnear=&amp;z=13&amp;iwloc=A&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;V-as fi recunoscatoare daca ati transmite acest mesaj tuturor celor potential interesati (studenti, profesori etc.) Va multumesc si va stau la dispozitie pentru eventuale intrebari.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Numai bine si, sper, pe curand,
&lt;br&gt;Silvia
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	<title>[reminder] Seara de film romanesc, joi 22 octombrie</title>
	<published>2009-10-22T06:01:17Z</published>
	<updated>2009-10-22T06:01:17Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Iulian Dragos-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;div class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot;&gt;


  

&lt;div bgcolor=&quot;#ffffff&quot; text=&quot;#000000&quot;&gt;
Bună ziua tuturor,&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;Joi, 22 octombrie ora 19:00 in &lt;a href=&quot;http://plan.epfl.ch/?lang=en&amp;amp;room=ela2&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ELA2&lt;/a&gt; va
avea loc proiecția filmului &amp;quot;Furia&amp;quot;, de Radu Muntean, în versiune originală cu subtitrări in franceză. Intrarea este
liberă&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;b&gt;După terminarea proiecţiei vom avea ocazia de a discuta
despre film la &lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;un pahar de vin&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;. Toată lumea este invitată!&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/b&gt;Înainte de proiecţie, va fi posibil să cumpăraţi popcorn şi diverse
băuturi.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-decoration: underline;&quot;&gt;Furia&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;
De: &lt;/b&gt;Radu Muntean&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;Cu: &lt;/b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cinemagia.ro/actori/dragos-bucur-529/&quot; title=&quot;Cu - Dragoş Bucur &quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dragoş Bucur &lt;/a&gt;,                                 &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cinemagia.ro/actori/dorina-chiriac-5268/&quot; title=&quot;Cu - Dorina Chiriac&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dorina Chiriac&lt;/a&gt;,                                 &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cinemagia.ro/actori/andi-vasluianu-9011/&quot; title=&quot;Cu - Andi Vasluianu&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Andi Vasluianu&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;



&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;Rezumat: &lt;br&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;Într-un oraş al manelelor, al drogurilor şi al curselor infernale de maşini, nu supravieţuieşti decât dacă ştii să plăteşti, uneori chiar cu viaţa altora. &lt;br&gt;



Ţinerii de astăzi, care încearcă să se adapteze unei lumi fără conştiinţă, o lume a banilor, a afacerilor fără scrupule. O viaţă dură şi brutală pentru Luca şi Mona, eroii principali interpretaţi de Dragoş Bucur şi Dorina Chiriac. Un film-adrenalină cu accente de umor negru, o ironie la adresa unei societăţi care se conduce după mari nimicuri şi în care viaţa este doar o monedă de schimb. &lt;br&gt;



Doi prieteni, Luca şi Felie intră în circuitul curselor ilegale de maşini, împrumut&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;â&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;nd bani de la un tartor local, pe numele său Gabonu, cunoscut şi ca prieten/protector al cunoscutului manelist Adrian Copilu´ Minune. &lt;br&gt;



Problemele apar atunci cînd Luca îndrăzneşte să cîştige o cursă pe care trebuia s-o piardă, provoc&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;â&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;ndu-i ceva pagube la bursa de pariuri mafiotului Gabonu. Omul face un calcul simplu: datoria + paguba de la pariuri fac 7000$. &amp;quot;O sumă rotundă&amp;quot;, mai zice Gabonu şi le dă termen celor doi o zi şi-o noapte să facă rost de bani. &lt;br&gt;



   &lt;br&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;Î&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;n
fiecare lună, un nou film românesc va fi prezentat de Asociaţia
Studenţilor Români la EPFL, A/RO, cu sprijinul Ambasadei Romaniei în
Elve&lt;font color=&quot;#000000&quot;&gt;ţia. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#000000&quot;&gt; Pentru mai
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-25965960</id>
	<title>Free Mandarin class</title>
	<published>2009-10-19T14:25:45Z</published>
	<updated>2009-10-19T14:25:45Z</updated>
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		<name>dantitus.salajan</name>
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	<content type="html">Un prieten m-a rugat sa popularizez chestia de mai jos. e vorba despre &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;ore gratuite de mandarina. poate cineva e interesat.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Quoting Bjoern Muetzel &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25965960&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bjorn.mutzel@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hi,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; a friend of us wants to organise a free Mandarin class every Wednesday
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; from 5-6pm in BC 010. If you are interested, feel free to join and
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; invite friends or colleagues.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; CU
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Bjoern
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hi all,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; After discussion today, we decide to have the class on Wednesday, the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; time is 5pm-6pm. The classroom is BC 010.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; See you &amp;nbsp;on Wednesday, 21th, Oct.!
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Best,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Luoming
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
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&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Dr. Luoming Zhang
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Laboratoire d'algorithmique
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Laboratoire mathématique algorithmiques (ALGO&amp;LMA)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; École Polytechnique Fédérale de Lausanne (EPFL)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
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&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Fax :(+41 21)693 75 10
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-25962062</id>
	<title>Seara de film romanesc, joi 22 octombrie</title>
	<published>2009-10-19T10:08:52Z</published>
	<updated>2009-10-19T10:08:52Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Maria Mateescu</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;div class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot;&gt;


  

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Bună ziua tuturor,&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;Joi, 22 octombrie ora 19:00 in &lt;a href=&quot;http://plan.epfl.ch/?lang=en&amp;amp;room=ela2&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ELA2&lt;/a&gt; va
avea loc proiecția filmului &amp;quot;Furia&amp;quot;, de Radu Muntean, în versiune originală cu subtitrări in franceză. Intrarea este
liberă&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;b&gt;După terminarea proiecţiei vom avea ocazia de a discuta
despre film la &lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;un pahar de vin&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;. Toată lumea este invitată!&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/b&gt;Înainte de proiecţie, va fi posibil să cumpăraţi popcorn şi diverse
băuturi.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-decoration: underline;&quot;&gt;Furia&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;
De: &lt;/b&gt;Radu Muntean&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;Cu: &lt;/b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cinemagia.ro/actori/dragos-bucur-529/&quot; title=&quot;Cu - Dragoş Bucur &quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dragoş Bucur &lt;/a&gt;,                                 &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cinemagia.ro/actori/dorina-chiriac-5268/&quot; title=&quot;Cu - Dorina Chiriac&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dorina Chiriac&lt;/a&gt;,                                 &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cinemagia.ro/actori/andi-vasluianu-9011/&quot; title=&quot;Cu - Andi Vasluianu&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Andi Vasluianu&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;

&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;Rezumat: &lt;br&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;Într-un oraş al manelelor, al drogurilor şi al curselor infernale de maşini, nu supravieţuieşti decât dacă ştii să plăteşti, uneori chiar cu viaţa altora. &lt;br&gt;

Ţinerii de astăzi, care încearcă să se adapteze unei lumi fără conştiinţă, o lume a banilor, a afacerilor fără scrupule. O viaţă dură şi brutală pentru Luca şi Mona, eroii principali interpretaţi de Dragoş Bucur şi Dorina Chiriac. Un film-adrenalină cu accente de umor negru, o ironie la adresa unei societăţi care se conduce după mari nimicuri şi în care viaţa este doar o monedă de schimb. &lt;br&gt;

Doi prieteni, Luca şi Felie intră în circuitul curselor ilegale de maşini, împrumut&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;â&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;nd bani de la un tartor local, pe numele său Gabonu, cunoscut şi ca prieten/protector al cunoscutului manelist Adrian Copilu´ Minune. &lt;br&gt;

Problemele apar atunci cînd Luca îndrăzneşte să cîştige o cursă pe care trebuia s-o piardă, provoc&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;â&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;ndu-i ceva pagube la bursa de pariuri mafiotului Gabonu. Omul face un calcul simplu: datoria + paguba de la pariuri fac 7000$. &amp;quot;O sumă rotundă&amp;quot;, mai zice Gabonu şi le dă termen celor doi o zi şi-o noapte să facă rost de bani. &lt;br&gt;

   &lt;br&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;Î&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;n
fiecare lună, un nou film românesc va fi prezentat de Asociaţia
Studenţilor Români la EPFL, A/RO, cu sprijinul Ambasadei Romaniei în
Elve&lt;font color=&quot;#000000&quot;&gt;ţia. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#000000&quot;&gt; Pentru mai
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-25960221</id>
	<title>Secțiile de votare pentru alegerile prezidențiale românești din acest an</title>
	<published>2009-10-19T08:20:35Z</published>
	<updated>2009-10-19T08:20:35Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Cosmin-6</name>
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-25905563</id>
	<title>Re:</title>
	<published>2009-10-15T02:31:47Z</published>
	<updated>2009-10-15T02:31:47Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>tudor.ratiu</name>
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	<content type="html">In sfirist un raspuns logic, care vine din partea unuia
&lt;br&gt;care face parte dintr-o minoritate in romania. Asta a
&lt;br&gt;fost experienta mea intotdeauna.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Tudor Ratiu
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Quoting Paul &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25905563&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;p.r.vasos@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Draga Bogdan,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Cred ca daca un stat comite o nedreptate, e.g., retragerea cetateniei
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; din motive politice, este datoria noii administratii sa faca demersurile
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; pentru a repara si compensa aceasta masura.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Si distinctia intre cazurile politice si restul nu ar fi greu de facut
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; intr-un text de lege.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Paul
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 2009/10/14 Lazar Mihai-Bogdan &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25905563&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bogdan.lazar@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;lt;mailto:&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25905563&amp;i=2&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bogdan.lazar@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Cuvintele domnului Ratiu au ramas in gandurile mele... In acest &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; mesaj nu incerc sa va contrazic, ci doar sa aduc cateva argumente in &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; plus ce cred eu ca ar fi utile la dezvolarea discutiei pe care am &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; initiat-o...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Referitor la faptul ca Romania nu a anulat sentintele celor fugiti...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Cateva zile m-am gandint la care ar putea fi motivul pentru care o &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; asemenea decizie, aparent banala nu a fost luata inca... Pana nu &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; mi-am adus aminte de un caz particular despre care am auzit &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; personal. Probabil ca va imaginati ca nu toata lumea a fugit din &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Romania comunista pentru a au fost persecutati. Sunt persoane care &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; au fugit de neveste, de copii, de parinti, de datorii sau chiar de &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; justitie (si nu justitie politica). Cu cativa ani inainte de &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; revolutie a fugit baiatul (pe la varsta majoratului) unor vecinii de &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ai nostrii. Nici pe departe din motive politice. Motivul vehiculat &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; de familie a fost faptul ca impreuna cu un grup de prieteni au fost &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; prinsi ca au furat un radio-casetofon. Barfele ce le-am auzit cand &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; am crescut mai mare a fost implicarea acestuia intr-un viol. A fugit &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; in America, unde a cerut probabil azil politic si imi aduc aminte de &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; pachetele ce le trimitea acasa dupa revolutie ce denota ca ajunsese &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; oarecum cu bine. Bineneles ca nu am auzit sa fi calcat inapoi in &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Romania de atunci. Nu vreau sa pun exemplul dat de d-voastra pe &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; aceasi linie cu acesta, dar ce vreau sa spun este ca gratierea &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; tuturor celor fugiti pe parcursul perioadei comuniste este imoral si &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; imposibil din aceste motive. Multi au fugit din motive mult mai &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; mici, ca spre exemplu faptul ca au fost repartizati pe o pozitie &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; care nu le facea placere, sau ca au strans prea multe datorii la &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; partidele de poker organizate clandestin in apartamente...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Sunt convins insa ca anumite cazuri particulare de refugiati &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; politici pot obtine astazi gratierea. Dar asta presupune ca acestia &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; sa-si ia singuri problema in mana si sa o rezolve, fie venind in &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Romania si predandu-se, fie angajand ceva avocati care sa ii &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; reprezinte. Binenteles ca este mai usor sa ignori aceasta problema &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; si sa iti vezi mai departe de viata departe de Romania, si nu acuz &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; persoanele care asta fac. Dar sa te plangi apoi si sa invinovatesti &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Romania de astazi pentru faptul ca esti tinut departe de locurile &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; natale mi se pare ipocrizie. Ne batem astfel joc de cei care si-au &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; petrecut anii din viata studiind arhivele comunistilor in incercarea &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; de a repara astfel de probleme. Sa nu uitam ca s-au facut progrese &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; serioase in domeniul retrocedarilor si chiar am auzit de pardonuri &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; si gratieri de detinuti sau condamnati politic de regimul comunist. &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Nu stiu daca chiar Herta Muller a fost fugita sau exilata, dar sunt &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; convins ca a intrat in Romania dupa revolutie...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Referitor la dobandirea cetateniei romanesti pentru copii d-voastra...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Imi vine greu sa cred ca nu este posibil, in conditiile in care &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; auzisem prin media de stiri ca se acorda cetatenie romaneasca &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; tuturor basarabenilor ce pot dovedi ca bunicul lor a avut cetatenie &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; romaneasca... Am continuat putin documentarea si am gasit o varianta &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; on-line a legii cetateniei romane:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.roembus.org/english/services/legea-cetateniei-romane.htm&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.roembus.org/english/services/legea-cetateniei-romane.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Daca d-voastra ati re-obtinut déjà cetatenie romana o vor primi si &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; copii d-voastra la cerere. Daca nu, aveti cateva posibilitati pentru &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; a o obtine, printre care as face referire la art.10 din legea &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; accesibila in link-ul de mai sus.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; In final as mai vrea sa fac o remarca emotionala la cele spuse de &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; d-voastra... Nu pot sa-mi imaginez circumstantele in care eu mi-as &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; expune fetita de 6 sa vada tancuri rusesti in drum sa omoare &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; unguri... Sunt pur si simplu stupefiat... Si nu cred ca puteti sa &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; aruncati si aceasta experienta particulara traita de d-voastra in &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; spatele comunistilor... Din cele relatate de d-voastra parintii au &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; fost cei care v-au expus explicit la un asemenea eveniment, nu &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; comunistii...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Cu stima si respect,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Bogdan LAZAR
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; www.bogdanlazar.ro&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bogdanlazar.ro&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.bogdanlazar.ro&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
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&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Subject: Re: Al treilea Nobel romanesc
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Nu vreau sa intru in nici o polemica cu nimeni, dar aceasta
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; scrisoare are citeva fapte inexacte si numai de aceea raspund.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 1.) Herta Mueller NU a vorbit prost despre Romania. Dimpotriva! A
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; dedicat una din cartile ei cele mai importante &amp;quot;The land of the green
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; plums&amp;quot; (dau titlul in engleza caci imi dau seama ca putini mai vorbesc
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; germana intre romani) prietenilor ei romani care au suferit sub
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; regimul comunist. Nu numai atit: in interviews pe care le-a dat in
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Germania a insistat asupra acestui fapt si a spus ca era datoria ei
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; morala sa scrie despre cum romanii au suferit sub regimul comunist.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; In plus, intr-un interview major in Germania (pe care l-am ascultat),
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; a insistat cum a dorit sa invete romaneste la virsta
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; de 15 ani cind a ajuns la Timisoara. Mai mult, a declarat ca datorita
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; faptului ca stie romaneste a putut sa scrie mai bine in germana caci o
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; cunoastere profunda a unei alte limbi, si a insistat asupra romanei pe
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; care a caracterizat-o ca o limba cu totul deosebita, &amp;nbsp;a ajutat-o sa
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; vada fiecare fapt dintr-un alt punct de vedere.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Are perfecta dreptate si stiu despre ce vorbeste. Eu sunt
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; quadrilingual si mai vorbesc inca alte doua limbi prost, dar pot sa
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; citesc literatura. Sunt lucruri care le poti spune numai intr-o limba
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; si nu pot fi traduse datorita substraturilor culturale asociate cu
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; anumite expresii. Sa va dau un exemplu clasic: Make my day! (Clint
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Eastwood) este intraductibil. Pentru un american spune volume. Orice
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; traducere pierde 90% din continutul implicit.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Deci Herta Muelle nu a vorbit rau despre Romania. Voi reveni mai jos
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ce a criticat foarte aspru si continua sa o faca.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 2.) Este inexact ca 99% din populatie a suferit. Eu am trait in
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; aceasta perioada, parintii mei au trait mai mult in regimul comunist.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Nu pot sa spun citi au suferit. Au fost multi, asta este sigur. Dar
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; regimul comunist a avut sprijin in Romania si mai are si acum. Este un
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; fapt extrem de rusinos pentru mine personal, ca roman. In general eu
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; refuz sa discut aceasta problema cu orice strain si le aduc aminte ca
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; nationalitatea mea oficiala este cea americana si deci nu am de-a face
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; cu acest subiect. Citi au fost ca familia mea care s-a opus deschis
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; regimului si au pierdut membri? Citi au fost ca majoritatea preotilor
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; greco-catolici care &amp;nbsp;s-au opus si au platit cu viata. Citi au fost ca
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; cei din Oastea Domnului, miscare in biserica ortodoxa, care s-au opus
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; si au fost ucisi in lagare? Oastea Domnului a fost distrusa de
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; biserica ortodoxa comunista. Vorbeste astazi cineva din biserica
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ortodoxa despre ce s-a intimplat cu Oastea Domnului? Stie macar unul
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; din generatia voastra, ortodocsi, ce a fost Oastea Domnului? Eu stiu
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; si nu sunt ortodox. Citi au fost ca majoritatea neoprotestantilor,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; care au avut curajul sa faca zid de rezistenta? Cind preotul ortodox
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Calciu, a fost inchis, am fost eu, &amp;nbsp;parintii mei, fratele meu, care am
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; strins semnaturi in USA pentru eliberarea lui, nu fratii lui ortodocsi
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; (au reactionat dupa ce eu i-am facut de rusine). Ne-am dus la
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; bisericile ortodoxe sa le cerem sprijin si au fost biserici ortodoxe
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; in USA care au refuzat sa ma ajute sa string semnaturi; bineinteles ca
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; bisricile care erau sub arhipescopul Nathaniel de la Grass Lake m-au
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ajutat, dar nu si celelalte. Mai rau, ma intrebau de ce vin la ei caci
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; nu sunt ortodox! Dar nici o biserica catolica sau protestanta nu m-a
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; refuzat! Mai mult, bisericile greco catolice din Midwest au facut mai
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; mult decit ce le cerusem. Am trimis cutii de semnaturi la fiecare
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; membru din Congres si Senat - si parintele Calciu a fost eliberat.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Sunt sigur ca nu am fost eu care a impins bolovanul, dar si eu am fost
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; printre aceia din toata lumea care nu au acceptat situatia. Impreuna
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; foarte mult se poate face. Am infruntat impreuna cu un coleg evreu de
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; la Chisinau o delegatie a bisericii ortodoxe romane care a venit la
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Ann Arbor in 1982 unde eram atunci tinar Assistant Professor si i-am
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; intrebat in public mai multe care nu le conveneau. Am ajutat
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; neoprotestanti din Midwest sa isi scoate familiile ca sa emigreze in
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; USA. I-am invatat ce trebuie sa faca politic ca sa isi scoate rudele
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; si sunt mindru ca pe fiecare pe care l-am ajutat si caruia i-am scris
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; petitii la congresul american si-a scos rudele. Am fost urmarit la
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Berkeley de Securitate. Stiu de cineva de la San Jose care a fost
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; batut si lasat aproape mort pentru ca organiza activitati impotriva
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; guvernului roman in California de Nord.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Herta Mueller spune si astazi ca ii este frica de Securitate. Si o
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; spune des, o scrie de multe ori.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Sprijinul regimului comunist cel mai mare din TOATE tarile din lume,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; inclusiv cele comuniste, a fost in Romania. Dovada? Il citez pe
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Ceausescu: Romania are cel mai mare partid comunist din toate tarile
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ca procentaj al populatiei. Acesta este un fapt care poate fi
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; verificat. Cind cineva era invitat sa intre in partid, accepta. Mai
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; rau, se rugau sa fie primiti. Cind eu am refuzat, m-au crezut nebun si
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; am fost ridicat de Securitate. Profesori de-ai mei incercau sa imi
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; faca greutati si eram ridicat de Securitate in timpul cursurilor la
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Universitatea Timisoara. Stiu si cine dintre profesorii mei ma
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; denuntau. Eram singurul care spunea deschis si scria ca in Romania nu
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; se respecta constitutia scrisa sub regimul comunist! Cite dintre
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; cunostiintele voastre cereau audienta la biroul comitetului central ca
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; sa se plinga oficial de incalcarea legilor comuniste? Citi dintre
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; oamenii pe care ii cunoasteti s-au dus la UNESCO, la Bucuresti, sa
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ceara ancheta asupra discriminarii politice in invatamint (nu te
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; puteai inscrie la doctorat fara aprobarea partidului, de exemplu - eu
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; nu am avut voie sa mai studiez in Romania). Citi oameni cunoasteti
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; care au scris plingeri oficiale la ONU? Asta este rezistenta, nu vorbe
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; goale! &amp;quot;Put your money where your mouth is&amp;quot; cum se spune in America.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Ca pretemul meu din copilarie care avea tata roman si mama germana si
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; vorbea pe scena teatrului german impotriva guvernului; a fost omorit.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; In familia mea am fost multi care am facut asta si cunosc alte familii
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; unde asta era ceva normal. Daca numai 10 la suta din populatia
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Romaniei ar fi facut jumatate din ceea ce faceam noi, libertatea
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; personala ar fi fost mult mai mare. Dar asta nu a fost cazul. Deci
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; sprijinul direct si implicit al populatiei fata de regim era imens. Se
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; plingeau ca nu este nimic in magazin, ca le era foame, ca nu pot
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; calatorii, etc, dar erau membri de partid sau colaborau cu
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; securitatea, se duceau la sedinte de partid si de sindicat. Eu nu m-am
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; dus la asemenea sedinte si spuneam de ce - ca este inutil ca nu am
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; nimic de spus si ca partidul a decis si noi trebuie sa tacem; citam
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; din Marx, Lenin si Ceausescu ca sa imi justific atitudinea si imi
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; bateam joc de ei in public caci stiam mai mult marxism decit ei -
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; trebuie sa iti cunosti foarte bine dusmanul daca vrei sa
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; supravietuiesti. Cei de la partid erau inebuniti cu mine si ma evitau
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; in final. Altii ziceau &amp;quot;ce-i de facut?&amp;quot; Asta nu este o atitudine.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Fiecare popor isi merita guvernul pe care il are. Ei si-l fac.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Guvernul unei tari este oglinda aspiratilor poporului respectiv. Daca
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; este ocupatie straina, este altceva. Dar, dupa cum imi aduc aminte, nu
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; erau trupe sovietice in Romania inca din anii 60! Deci Romania putea
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; sa fi facut ceva ca Yugoslavia, la umbra URSS, dar nu a facut-o. De
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ce? Pentru ca nu era sprijin in populatie, rezistenta era facuta de un
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; grup foarte mic din populatia totala - si asta o stiu din experienta
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; proprie. Este extrem de trist ceea ce spun, dar este adevarat.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Nu ma credeti? Admirati va rog regimurile libere din est. De ce unele
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; tari sunt mai civillizate decit altele. Au aceeasi conditie initiala,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; cum se spune in matematica. Cazul cel mai flagrant este Rusia. Poporul
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; rus vrea sa aiba KGB la guvern. Il iubesc pe Putin si KGBul. Am fost
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; in Rusia si am vazut asta - am ramas trasnit. Rusii isi merita
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; guvernul pe care il au. Guvernul actual al Rusiei este imaginea
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; aspiratiilor si capacitatii poporului rus - va las pe fiecare sa traga
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; concluzia logica asupra Romaniei.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Sa va dau un alt exemplu, de astazi, puteti sa verificati. Nu cred ca
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ati stiut ca in Muntii Apuseni a fost rezistenta impotriva guvernului,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; foarte indelungata. Va dau si zona: in jurul lui Buru si a Lupsei,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; adinc in Apuseni. Aveam 4 ani cind am vazut o executie in curtea
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Sfatului Popular la Timisoara caci locuiam la etajul 3 si vedeam in
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; curte de sus. Asta este in plin centru, linga Catedrala. Executau un
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; taran partizan din muntii Banatului. Era 1954! Acesti oameni rezistau
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; cu arma in mina de 9 ani! Mergeti astazi in acea zona in Apuseni si
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; intrebati ce se stie despre partizani. Stiti care este raspunsul,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; astazi, caci eu am intrebat? Ca erau niste banditi pe care armata si
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; militia i-a omorit. Asta merita cei care s-au opus! Nici macar nu
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; exista o amintire a cosatenilor. Este deprimant!
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Daca a fost mare opozitie la regimul comunist, de ce lumea traversa
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; strada cind treceam ca sa nu ma salute? Voi nu stiti ce inseamna sa
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; traiesti singur, fara nimeni. La noi, nimeni nu intra in casa. Eram
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; leprosi. Eu nici nu stiam ce inseamna sa ai oaspeti sau sa te duci la
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; cineva in vizita. Sau cunosteam un copil cu care m jucam si deodata
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; aflu ca tatal lui s-a spinzurat datorita interogarilor. Astazi toti au
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; fost mari eroi care s-au opus. Dupa ce am fost expulzat, timp de 15
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ani nici o singura persoana din Romania, cu exceptia unui coleg de
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; facultate, nu a tinut legatura cu mine. Dupa revolutie deoadata am
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; avut foarte multi prieteni vechi.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Daca a fost opozitie serioasa in Romania, cum se explica libertatea
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; mai mare in Polonia, Ungaria, Cehoslovacia decit in Romania cu toate
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ca aceste tari aveau trupe sovietice stationate si Romania nu avea?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Polonia sub Jaruzelski cu tancuri sovietice avea mai mari libertati
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; personale decit Romania! Romanii au suferit mult? Comparat cu Polonia
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; a fost bine. Stiti citi au fost exterminati in Polonia? Aproape 1.6
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; milioane! Uitati-va la
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/20TH.HTM&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/20TH.HTM&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Romania nici nu intra pe listele principale ale marilor &amp;quot;democide&amp;quot;. Si
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; totusi, polonezii s-au opus regimului in mod sistematic, indiferent de
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; citi morti au avut. Nu au putut sa ii omoare pe toti!
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 3.) Romania de astazi este inca condusa de foste cadre de partid si de
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; securitate. Acesta este un fapt. Sunt incintat ca am vazut scris ca
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Romania suntem noi&amp;quot;. Asta imi da sperante. Deci daca voi, acesti
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; tineri, sunteti Romania, sa aveti o atitudine si sa nu alegeti fosti
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; membri de partid! O faceti? Va intereseaza pe cine alegeti? Mergeti la
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; vot? Sper ca da.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; In Romania de astazi o declaratie ca regimul comunist a fost la fel de
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; criminal ca cel fascist NU A FOST VOTATA in parlament. Mai vreti
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; dovada ca acest regim comunist mai este si astazi sprijinit? Va invit
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; la Hanoi, la muzeul etnografic care are jumatatea spatiului dedicat
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;quot;ororilor regimului comunist&amp;quot;. Eu am fost la acest muzeu si este
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ingrozitor! Nu am putut iesi din el timp de 6 ore - eram extrem de
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; emotionat si trebuia sa ma odihnesc ca sa mai pot vedea. Unde este un
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; asemenea muzeu in Europa de Est? Nici macar la Berlin! Nu vreau sa il
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; descriu ca te atinge foarte adinc. Ori, Vietnamul este o tara
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; comunista, oficial! Rusine tuturor tarilor ex-comuniste cu amnezie
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; totala si iresponsabilitate morala si sociala! Au de invatat de la
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Vietnam.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Au fost deschise arhivele securitatii in Romania? Nici vorba! Doar
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; cind vor sa se scape de unul apar dosare. Eu habar nu am cine conduce
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Romania. Dar pot sa va spun ca am refuzat sa ma duc la Bucuresti sa
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; iau un mare premiu national numai pentru ca ar fi trebuit sa dau mina
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; cu Iliescu. Dupa 8-9 luni am fost la Ambasada Romaniei, impreuna cu un
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; coleg mai batrin, Cornelui Constantinescu (care a facut lagar politic
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; in Romania si este pensionat de la ETHZ) sa ne ridicam premiile. Am
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; fost insotit, bineinteles, de un reprezentant al sectiei culturale a
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ambasadei USA de la Berna - am insistat asupra acestui fapt deoarece
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; sunt american si ma duceam la o ambasada straina pentru o activitate
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; care era legata de acea tara; el a fost oficial invitat de ambasada
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; romana la aceast eveniment deoarece un american a fost onorat de
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; guvernul roman.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 4.) Romania nu a anulat pina astazi sentintele impotriva celor fugiti.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Ati stiut asta? Sunt sigur ca nu. Pe mine asta nu ma afecteaza caci eu
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; nu sunt fugit ci expulzat. Am fost ridicat la 2 dimineata din pat,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; inchis la Securitate, mi s-a dat un pasaport si mi s-a spus sa prasesc
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; tara in 48 de ore si ca daca ma intorc voi fi impuscat; sa fiu atent
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ce fac in apus daca vreau sa supravietuiesc. Stiu ca exista o sentinta
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; impotriva mea in Romania datorita expulzarii. Nu stiu ce spune, n-am
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; vazut-o nici o data, dar stiu altii care au fost in situatia mea si
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; care au aflat despre asta. Avind in vedere ca ma cheama Ratiu, nu este
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; nici un dubiu ca exista o sentinta mai grava impotriva mea. Deci,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; oficial, si astazi sunt criminal in Romania. Asta are consecinte. Ma
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; duc extrem de rar in Romania si cind ma duc, este pe timp foarte de
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; scurt (3-4 zile). Ma duc in general la conferinte cind sunt inconjurat
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; de colegi straini sau cu unul din copiii mei (nascuti in USA, care
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; sunt majori) sau cu nevasta mea care este naturalizata americana dar
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; nu este din Romania. Nici o data nu ma duc singur! Am un coleg care nu
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; a intrat in Romania din 1978. Este membru al academiei de stiinte USA
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; si a luat cea mai mare dsitinctie stiintifica americana: The
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Presidential Medal of Honor data de Presedintele USA personal la Casa
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Alba. Dar el nu intra in Romania caci este fugit si deci criminal inca
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; si astazi in Romania. Asta este atitudinea Romaniei fata de diaspora!
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Acest matematician este probabil cel mai mare om de stiinta roman la
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ora actuala. In orice caz este cel mai decorat.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Cum am spus in scrisoarea mea trecuta, acest grup de oameni sunt
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; tinuti si astazi la distanta si Romania este foarte bucuroasa daca nu
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; apar in tara.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; M-am interesat, in principiu, daca este posibil ca copiii mei sa ia
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; cetatenie romana. Este imposibil! Sau la fel de posibil ca lui
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Mohammed Abdul sau lui Zexiang Wu. As fi vrut sa ii leg de tara macar
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; in principiu datorita numelui care il poarta, dar nu se poate. Deci si
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; urmasii acestor oameni sunt tinuti departe de tara. Contrastati asta
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; cu ce se intimpla in alte tari. De exemplu daca cineva poate demonstra
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ca are un bunic italian, spaniol, irlandez sau ungur, poate cere
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; cetatenia acestor tari oriunde ar fi in lume (despre aceste tari stiu
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; precis caci am cunostiinte care au facut asta). Nici nu mai vorbesc de
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Germania sau Israel cu &amp;quot;Law of Return&amp;quot;.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Sa ne intoarcem la Herta Mueller. Aceste aspecte din Romania sunt cele
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; criticate de ea &amp;nbsp;si are mare dreptate. In sfirsit cineva care spune
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; aceste lucruri este ascultat, caci pe mine nu ma asculta nimeni
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; deoarece sunt matematician si deci nu am nici un ascendent literar,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; politic, sau sociologic. Despre aceste lucruri vorbeste foarte urit -
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; cum ar putea vorbi altfel? De fapt, eu ma mir ca Herta Mueller nu
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; vorbeste si mai urit! Eu ii pot da material mai rau decit ceea ce
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; scrie, si nu sunt singurul. O pot pune in legatura cu multi oameni
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; care ii pot povesti lucruri care fac sa para romanele ei pline de
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; optimism! Asta este partea Romaniei pe care ea o critica aspru.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Deci daca Romania sunteti voi, aceasta generatie tinara, aveti o mare
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; responsabilitate caci fara sa vreti, purtati rusinea generatiei
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; anterioare. Daca doriti ca Romania sa fie luata in serios si sa nu se
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; mai vorbeasca urit de ea, trebuie sa aveti constiinta civica si
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; responsabilitate morala. Puteti schimba lucrurile. Tara este a
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; voastra, nu a mea, aveti tot viitorul in fata, nu ca mine. Deci fiti
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; responsabili politic. Nu are nici o importanta cu ce partid votati,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; dar votati oameni seriosi, oameni care nu au colaborat cu regimul
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; comunist. Sper ca dintre voi vor fi in citiva ani reprezentaniti in
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; parlament si in guvern. Daca Romania sunteti voi, fiti demni de
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; aceasta chemare, participati la conducerea tarii, fiecare cum puteti
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; si cum stiti sa o faceti.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Fiecare la locul lui poate avea o atitudine responsabila si daca asta
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; reusiti sa o extindeti la multi oameni faceti minuni. Voi sunteti
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; aceia care trebuie sa schimbati lucrurile. Nimeni nu vine din exterior
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; sa va curete casa.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Este ultima scrisoare la care mai raspund. Am enorm de lucru, am prea
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; multi doctoranzi si postdocs, prea multe proiecte de cercetare cu
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; colegi pretutindeni in lume ca sa ma pot ocupa de altceva decit de
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; lucru. Va doresc numai bine si sper sa mai aud de voi in viitor numai
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; lucruri bune.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Tudor Ratiu
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Quoting &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25905563&amp;i=9&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;dantitus.salajan@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;lt;mailto:&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25905563&amp;i=10&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;dantitus.salajan@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;quot; &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25905563&amp;i=11&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;dantitus.salajan@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;lt;mailto:&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25905563&amp;i=12&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;dantitus.salajan@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Dupa o asemenea interventie emotionanta e greu sa mai adaugi ceva...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Am sa o fac totusi. Pentru ca exista o nuanta. Drama ingrozitoare a
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; acestei comunitati, descrisa de Hetha Muller si de domnul profesor
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Ratiu trebuie plasata obligatoriu intr-un context mai larg. Mai
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; precis, a fost drama a 99 la suta dintre romani, cei care nu au fost
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; securisti, care timp de cel putin 20 de ani (1970-1989) au trait ca
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; niste animale, neavind voie sa vorbeasca, sa manance, sa se uite la
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; televizor, sa studieze ce vor, unde vor, in general sa faca ce vor, sa
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; fie normal. Si eu am prieteni orfani de mici, al caror parinti au fost
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; ucisi de securitate,gasiti morti in canale, &amp;nbsp;prieteni ai caror parinti
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; au fost hartuiti de securitate. A fost o drama generalizata.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Si acum nuanta. Muller a vorbit foarte urat despre Romania, cel putin
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; din 2006 incoace de cand a fost invitata in Romania si tratata ca un
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; super-star literar absolut. Sa acuzi Romania e un nonsens. Romania nu
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; un concept bine definit. Poti sa-l acuzi pe Ceausescu, poti sa acuzi
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; securitatea, partidul de la guvernare, pe Vadim, sau mai stiu eu ce
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; alte animale umblatoare. Dar in momentul in care 99 la suta din
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; populatie a trecut prin aceeasi drama si este solidara cu pozitia lui
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Muller, este o greseala sa acuzi direct Romania.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Singura modalitate in care se poate defini Romania exclude orice acuza
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; la adresa acesteia. Romania suntem noi.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Dan,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Quoting &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25905563&amp;i=13&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;tudor.ratiu@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;lt;mailto:&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25905563&amp;i=14&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;tudor.ratiu@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;quot; &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25905563&amp;i=15&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;tudor.ratiu@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;lt;mailto:&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25905563&amp;i=16&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;tudor.ratiu@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Discutia pe care o urmaresc din generatia voastra este
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; foarte interesanta pentru mine. Nu stiu de fapt ce
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; intelegeti din ceea ce scrie si spune ea.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Herta Mueller reprezinta un fragment al &amp;nbsp;societatii din
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Banat care s-a opus deschis regimului. I-am ascultat
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; un interview: vorbeste germana &amp;quot;mea&amp;quot;, cu accentul
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;quot;corect&amp;quot; is familiar, cea pe care o utilizez si astazi
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; cu colegii germanofoni din departament, germana
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; invatata la virsta de 4 ani. Ea a fost la liceul german de
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; la Timisoara si la universitate cu mine, trei ani dupa
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; mine. Eu nu am cunoscut-o dar fratele meu care este
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; cu patru ani mai tinar o stie, nu foarte bine. Aceasta
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; patura era foarte multinationala la Timisoara: romani,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; unguri, nemti, evrei, sirbi. Dar toti aveam &amp;nbsp;in comun un
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; lucru: cel putin un membru din familie a fost in lagar
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; de exterminare si, in general, aveam toti cel putin o
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; ruda apropiata care a fost ucisa in lagar. Nici unul
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; dintre noi nu este binevenit astazi in Romania,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; indiferent de originea nationala. Prietenii pe care
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; i-am avut atunci au ramas prieteni si astazi
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; dar nici unul nu mai este in Romania. Numai unul a
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; ramas, caci a fost calcat de un tren pentru ca a vorbit
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; deschis pe scena teatrului german de la Timisoara
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; impotriva regimului.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Faptul ca scrie in germana este foarte putin important.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Ea vorbeste in numele acestei paturi din Banat si
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Transilvania care a fost si este inca si astazi prigonita
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; in Romania. In interview la telefon in germana cind
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; o anunta ca a primit premiul Nobel si este intrebata
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; cum este primita in Romania astazi, raspunsul este
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; ca in general prost. Pentru mine asta este evident!
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; O stiu pe piele proprie. Cunostiintele &amp;nbsp;mele si colegii
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; de matematica evident ca ma primesc bine dar,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; in general, de la intrarea in tara cind imi citesc
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; numele pe pasaportul american (eu am fost expulzat)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; sunt ostili. Ea o spune &amp;nbsp;clar ca in Germania era tratata
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; ca straina. Eu si restul familiei mele (un frate si parinti)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; am stiut asta asa ca am plecat cit de departe era posibil:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; in California, la 10 ore de decalaj orar. Ea vorbeste
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; de deportari in URSS; eu am prieteni apropiati a caror
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; mama a fost deportata in minele de carbune din
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Siberia, am avut profesori veniti din deportare la liceul
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; german care ne povesteau, la cursul de rusa, cum
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; era in lagar. Ea vorbeste cum a fost ostracizata de
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; comunitatea germana pentru ca vorbea deschis
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; contra nazismului. Alt lucru comun, nu numai cu mine
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; dar cu alti prieteni de la liceu. Eu eram prost vazut
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; in liceul german si mi-a trebuit 8 ani ca sa ma
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; accepte ca integrat datorita atitudinii antifasciste
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; a familiei care era foarte bine cunoscuta. Impreuna
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; cu un prieten evreu care imi este si astazi la fel
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; de apropiat ca fratele meu, eram la liceul german
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; pentru ca atitudinea ostila a profesorilor nemti
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; fata de noi era cu mult mai buna decit discriminarea
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; politica pe care am fi avut de indurat intr-un liceu
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; roman. Le-am fost recunoscatori &amp;quot;den Banater Schwaben&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; care m-au educat bine, dincolo de ceea ce trebuia
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; sa invatam, &amp;nbsp;si in final, in ultimii patru ani de liceu
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; m-au tratat la egalitate si corect, ceea ce nu a
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; a fost cazul la universitatea romana din Timisoara!
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Cind o ascult pe Herta Mueller vorbind sunt inapoi
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; la liceul german cu prietenii mei si rudele noastre
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; omorite in lagare, fie in URSS dar mai cu seama
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; in Romania. Vorbeste de amnezie colectiva in
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Romania. Asa este! Am vazut la Hanoi mai multa
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; critica a regimului comunist decit la Bucuresti,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Budapesta, Praga, Varsovia si Berlin puse impreuna.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; In sfirsit este cineva din generatia mea care are
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; audienta mondiala si care poate vorbi in numele
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; nostru, a celor din Banat care s-au opus deschis
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; si care au platit, unii chiar cu viata, aceasta
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; atitudine. Acesti oameni sunt incomozi in Romania
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; si tara face totul sa ii tina departe si sa fie
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; uitati ca au existat o data si ca s-au nascut
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; in Romania.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Tudor Ratiu
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
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&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Quoting &amp;nbsp;
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&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Numele ei de fata: Herta Moraru.
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&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Quoting &amp;nbsp;
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&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Salutare,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Cred ca cel mai corect e ca e un nobel german dar si un nobel
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; romanesc. Castigatoarea este cetatean roman si german a trait 65 la
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; suta din viata in Romania, acolo a facut liceul facultatea, s-a format
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; probabil in tzara. Probabil ca asa va intra in analele istoriei, multi
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; dintre laureatii Nobel aveau cetatenie multipla.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Dar nu putem ignora faptul ca un cetatean roman, care si-a trait 65 la
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; suta din Romania, a luat premiul Nobel (chiar daca a fost propusa de
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Germania, premiul se atribuie persoanei si nu tarii, tara doar si-l
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; atribuie neoficial, ceea ce si Germania si Romania vor face).
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Ceea ce e cel mai trist e chestia cu numele, adica romanii au voie sa
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; se numeasca doar Ghita, Vasile, Niculae, Ion. Cred ca 20 la suta
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; dintre cetatenii romani care se numesc Janos, Jolt, Herman, Assaf,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; s-ar simti jigniti. Da Elie Wiesel si Hertha Muller sunt cetateni
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; romani, exact asa cum suntem noi toti si poate asa se simt. 60 la suta
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; dintre studentii elvetieni la care predau nu au nume elvetiene. Si in
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Romania traiesc minoritati, care sunt romani, exact cum suntem si noi.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; ps1: Nicu, am o veste proasta: esti roman (chiar daca ai plecat din
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; tara cand erai cu 11 ani mai tanar decat Hertha Muller (1987)).
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; ps2: Herman Oberth, cel mai mare om de stiinta roman poate, nascut la
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Sibiu, scolit la Cluj, nu pare nici el roman nu? dar oare ce sunt
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; oamenii astia?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; chiar nu vreau sa inflamam spiritele, doar sa ajungem la consens ca e
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; un Nobel romanesc si nemtesc, si ca si cei cu nume care nu se regasesc
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; la tzara in Romania, sunt romani.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Dan.
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&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Quoting Nicolae Chiurtu &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25905563&amp;i=25&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;nicolae.chiurtu@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;lt;mailto:&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25905563&amp;i=26&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;nicolae.chiurtu@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;:
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&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Salutare tuturor,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Cu riscul de a starni spiritele :-)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Herta Müller - nume tipic romanesc -, plecata din 1987 din Romania,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; nominalizata din partea Germaniei pentru premiu.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Nu pun la indoiala faptul ca e nascuta si a trait 34 de ani in Romania.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Dar venind din partea unui matematician, as fi mai atent cu semnul de
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;quot;=&amp;quot;, Dane! :-)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Toate bune,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Nicu
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 2009/10/8 &amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25905563&amp;i=27&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;dantitus.salajan@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;lt;mailto:&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25905563&amp;i=28&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;dantitus.salajan@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;:
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&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Premiul Nobel pentru literatura 2009= Romania
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.observatorcultural.ro/Citeste-mai-departe-?*articleID_22571-articles_details.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.observatorcultural.ro/Citeste-mai-departe-?*articleID_22571-articles_details.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
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&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Tudor Ratiu
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Department of Mathematics, Station 8
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Chair of Geometric Analysis
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Director, Bernoulli Center
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; CH-1015 Lausanne, Switzerland
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Mathematics office phone: 41 21 693 2777
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Mathematics office fax: 41 21 693 5440
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Mathematics secretary, Mrs. Marcia Gouffon: 41 21 693 5555
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Bernoulli Center phone: 41 21 693 0345
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Bernoulli Center secretary, Mrs. Christiane de Paola: 41 21 693 2583
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
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&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
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&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; --
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Tudor Ratiu
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Department of Mathematics, Station 8
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Chair of Geometric Analysis
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Director, Bernoulli Center
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; CH-1015 Lausanne, Switzerland
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Mathematics office phone: 41 21 693 2777
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Mathematics office fax: 41 21 693 5440
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Mathematics secretary, Mrs. Marcia Gouffon: 41 21 693 5555
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Bernoulli Center phone: 41 21 693 0345
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Bernoulli Center secretary, Mrs. Christiane de Paola: 41 21 693 2583
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
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&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
&lt;br&gt;Tudor Ratiu
&lt;br&gt;Department of Mathematics, Station 8
&lt;br&gt;Chair of Geometric Analysis
&lt;br&gt;Director, Bernoulli Center
&lt;br&gt;Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne
&lt;br&gt;CH-1015 Lausanne, Switzerland
&lt;br&gt;Mathematics office phone: 41 21 693 2777
&lt;br&gt;Mathematics office fax: 41 21 693 5440
&lt;br&gt;Mathematics secretary, Mrs. Marcia Gouffon: 41 21 693 5555
&lt;br&gt;Bernoulli Center phone: 41 21 693 0345
&lt;br&gt;Bernoulli Center secretary, Mrs. Christiane de Paola: 41 21 693 2583
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	<title>Re:</title>
	<published>2009-10-14T02:51:59Z</published>
	<updated>2009-10-14T02:51:59Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Paul-391</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;   Draga Bogdan,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Cred ca daca un stat comite o nedreptate, e.g., retragerea cetateniei&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;din motive politice, este datoria noii administratii sa faca demersurile&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;
pentru a repara si compensa aceasta masura. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Si distinctia intre cazurile politice si restul nu ar fi greu de facut &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;intr-un text de lege.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Paul&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot;&gt;2009/10/14 Lazar Mihai-Bogdan &lt;span dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25888207&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bogdan.lazar@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;blockquote class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot; style=&quot;margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;&quot;&gt;Cuvintele domnului Ratiu au ramas in gandurile mele... In acest mesaj nu incerc sa va contrazic, ci doar sa aduc cateva argumente in plus ce cred eu ca ar fi utile la dezvolarea discutiei pe care am initiat-o...&lt;br&gt;

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Referitor la faptul ca Romania nu a anulat sentintele celor fugiti...&lt;br&gt;
Cateva zile m-am gandint la care ar putea fi motivul pentru care o asemenea decizie, aparent banala nu a fost luata inca... Pana nu mi-am adus aminte de un caz particular despre care am auzit personal. Probabil ca va imaginati ca nu toata lumea a fugit din Romania comunista pentru a au fost persecutati. Sunt persoane care au fugit de neveste, de copii, de parinti, de datorii sau chiar de justitie (si nu justitie politica). Cu cativa ani inainte de revolutie a fugit baiatul (pe la varsta majoratului) unor vecinii de ai nostrii. Nici pe departe din motive politice. Motivul vehiculat de familie a fost faptul ca impreuna cu un grup de prieteni au fost prinsi ca au furat un radio-casetofon. Barfele ce le-am auzit cand am crescut mai mare a fost implicarea acestuia intr-un viol. A fugit in America, unde a cerut probabil azil politic si imi aduc aminte de pachetele ce le trimitea acasa dupa revolutie ce denota ca ajunsese oarecum cu bine. Bineneles ca nu am auzit sa fi calcat inapoi in Romania de atunci. Nu vreau sa pun exemplul dat de d-voastra pe aceasi linie cu acesta, dar ce vreau sa spun este ca gratierea tuturor celor fugiti pe parcursul perioadei comuniste este imoral si imposibil din aceste motive. Multi au fugit din motive mult mai mici, ca spre exemplu faptul ca au fost repartizati pe o pozitie care nu le facea placere, sau ca au strans prea multe datorii la partidele de poker organizate clandestin in apartamente...&lt;br&gt;

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Sunt convins insa ca anumite cazuri particulare de refugiati politici pot obtine astazi gratierea. Dar asta presupune ca acestia sa-si ia singuri problema in mana si sa o rezolve, fie venind in Romania si predandu-se, fie angajand ceva avocati care sa ii reprezinte. Binenteles ca este mai usor sa ignori aceasta problema si sa iti vezi mai departe de viata departe de Romania, si nu acuz persoanele care asta fac. Dar sa te plangi apoi si sa invinovatesti Romania de astazi pentru faptul ca esti tinut departe de locurile natale mi se pare ipocrizie. Ne batem astfel joc de cei care si-au petrecut anii din viata studiind arhivele comunistilor in incercarea de a repara astfel de probleme. Sa nu uitam ca s-au facut progrese serioase in domeniul retrocedarilor si chiar am auzit de pardonuri si gratieri de detinuti sau condamnati politic de regimul comunist. Nu stiu daca chiar Herta Muller a fost fugita sau exilata, dar sunt convins ca a intrat in Romania dupa revolutie...&lt;br&gt;

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Referitor la dobandirea cetateniei romanesti pentru copii d-voastra...&lt;br&gt;
Imi vine greu sa cred ca nu este posibil, in conditiile in care auzisem prin media de stiri ca se acorda cetatenie romaneasca tuturor basarabenilor ce pot dovedi ca bunicul lor a avut cetatenie romaneasca... Am continuat putin documentarea si am gasit o varianta on-line a legii cetateniei romane:&lt;br&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.roembus.org/english/services/legea-cetateniei-romane.htm&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.roembus.org/english/services/legea-cetateniei-romane.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Daca d-voastra ati re-obtinut déjà cetatenie romana o vor primi si copii d-voastra la cerere. Daca nu, aveti cateva posibilitati pentru a o obtine, printre care as face referire la art.10 din legea accesibila in link-ul de mai sus.&lt;br&gt;

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In final as mai vrea sa fac o remarca emotionala la cele spuse de d-voastra... Nu pot sa-mi imaginez circumstantele in care eu mi-as expune fetita de 6 sa vada tancuri rusesti in drum sa omoare unguri... Sunt pur si simplu stupefiat... Si nu cred ca puteti sa aruncati si aceasta experienta particulara traita de d-voastra in spatele comunistilor... Din cele relatate de d-voastra parintii au fost cei care v-au expus explicit la un asemenea eveniment, nu comunistii...&lt;br&gt;

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Cu stima si respect,&lt;br&gt;
Bogdan LAZAR&lt;br&gt;
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Subject: Re: Al treilea Nobel romanesc&lt;br&gt;
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Nu vreau sa intru in nici o polemica cu nimeni, dar aceasta&lt;br&gt;
scrisoare are citeva fapte inexacte si numai de aceea raspund.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
1.) Herta Mueller NU a vorbit prost despre Romania. Dimpotriva! A&lt;br&gt;
dedicat una din cartile ei cele mai importante &amp;quot;The land of the green&lt;br&gt;
plums&amp;quot; (dau titlul in engleza caci imi dau seama ca putini mai vorbesc&lt;br&gt;
germana intre romani) prietenilor ei romani care au suferit sub&lt;br&gt;
regimul comunist. Nu numai atit: in interviews pe care le-a dat in&lt;br&gt;
Germania a insistat asupra acestui fapt si a spus ca era datoria ei&lt;br&gt;
morala sa scrie despre cum romanii au suferit sub regimul comunist.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
In plus, intr-un interview major in Germania (pe care l-am ascultat),&lt;br&gt;
a insistat cum a dorit sa invete romaneste la virsta&lt;br&gt;
de 15 ani cind a ajuns la Timisoara. Mai mult, a declarat ca datorita&lt;br&gt;
faptului ca stie romaneste a putut sa scrie mai bine in germana caci o&lt;br&gt;
cunoastere profunda a unei alte limbi, si a insistat asupra romanei pe&lt;br&gt;
care a caracterizat-o ca o limba cu totul deosebita,  a ajutat-o sa&lt;br&gt;
vada fiecare fapt dintr-un alt punct de vedere.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Are perfecta dreptate si stiu despre ce vorbeste. Eu sunt&lt;br&gt;
quadrilingual si mai vorbesc inca alte doua limbi prost, dar pot sa&lt;br&gt;
citesc literatura. Sunt lucruri care le poti spune numai intr-o limba&lt;br&gt;
si nu pot fi traduse datorita substraturilor culturale asociate cu&lt;br&gt;
anumite expresii. Sa va dau un exemplu clasic: Make my day! (Clint&lt;br&gt;
Eastwood) este intraductibil. Pentru un american spune volume. Orice&lt;br&gt;
traducere pierde 90% din continutul implicit.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Deci Herta Muelle nu a vorbit rau despre Romania. Voi reveni mai jos&lt;br&gt;
ce a criticat foarte aspru si continua sa o faca.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
2.) Este inexact ca 99% din populatie a suferit. Eu am trait in&lt;br&gt;
aceasta perioada, parintii mei au trait mai mult in regimul comunist.&lt;br&gt;
Nu pot sa spun citi au suferit. Au fost multi, asta este sigur. Dar&lt;br&gt;
regimul comunist a avut sprijin in Romania si mai are si acum. Este un&lt;br&gt;
fapt extrem de rusinos pentru mine personal, ca roman. In general eu&lt;br&gt;
refuz sa discut aceasta problema cu orice strain si le aduc aminte ca&lt;br&gt;
nationalitatea mea oficiala este cea americana si deci nu am de-a face&lt;br&gt;
cu acest subiect. Citi au fost ca familia mea care s-a opus deschis&lt;br&gt;
regimului si au pierdut membri? Citi au fost ca majoritatea preotilor&lt;br&gt;
greco-catolici care  s-au opus si au platit cu viata. Citi au fost ca&lt;br&gt;
cei din Oastea Domnului, miscare in biserica ortodoxa, care s-au opus&lt;br&gt;
si au fost ucisi in lagare? Oastea Domnului a fost distrusa de&lt;br&gt;
biserica ortodoxa comunista. Vorbeste astazi cineva din biserica&lt;br&gt;
ortodoxa despre ce s-a intimplat cu Oastea Domnului? Stie macar unul&lt;br&gt;
din generatia voastra, ortodocsi, ce a fost Oastea Domnului? Eu stiu&lt;br&gt;
si nu sunt ortodox. Citi au fost ca majoritatea neoprotestantilor,&lt;br&gt;
care au avut curajul sa faca zid de rezistenta? Cind preotul ortodox&lt;br&gt;
Calciu, a fost inchis, am fost eu,  parintii mei, fratele meu, care am&lt;br&gt;
strins semnaturi in USA pentru eliberarea lui, nu fratii lui ortodocsi&lt;br&gt;
(au reactionat dupa ce eu i-am facut de rusine). Ne-am dus la&lt;br&gt;
bisericile ortodoxe sa le cerem sprijin si au fost biserici ortodoxe&lt;br&gt;
in USA care au refuzat sa ma ajute sa string semnaturi; bineinteles ca&lt;br&gt;
bisricile care erau sub arhipescopul Nathaniel de la Grass Lake m-au&lt;br&gt;
ajutat, dar nu si celelalte. Mai rau, ma intrebau de ce vin la ei caci&lt;br&gt;
nu sunt ortodox! Dar nici o biserica catolica sau protestanta nu m-a&lt;br&gt;
refuzat! Mai mult, bisericile greco catolice din Midwest au facut mai&lt;br&gt;
mult decit ce le cerusem. Am trimis cutii de semnaturi la fiecare&lt;br&gt;
membru din Congres si Senat - si parintele Calciu a fost eliberat.&lt;br&gt;
Sunt sigur ca nu am fost eu care a impins bolovanul, dar si eu am fost&lt;br&gt;
printre aceia din toata lumea care nu au acceptat situatia. Impreuna&lt;br&gt;
foarte mult se poate face. Am infruntat impreuna cu un coleg evreu de&lt;br&gt;
la Chisinau o delegatie a bisericii ortodoxe romane care a venit la&lt;br&gt;
Ann Arbor in 1982 unde eram atunci tinar Assistant Professor si i-am&lt;br&gt;
intrebat in public mai multe care nu le conveneau. Am ajutat&lt;br&gt;
neoprotestanti din Midwest sa isi scoate familiile ca sa emigreze in&lt;br&gt;
USA. I-am invatat ce trebuie sa faca politic ca sa isi scoate rudele&lt;br&gt;
si sunt mindru ca pe fiecare pe care l-am ajutat si caruia i-am scris&lt;br&gt;
petitii la congresul american si-a scos rudele. Am fost urmarit la&lt;br&gt;
Berkeley de Securitate. Stiu de cineva de la San Jose care a fost&lt;br&gt;
batut si lasat aproape mort pentru ca organiza activitati impotriva&lt;br&gt;
guvernului roman in California de Nord.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Herta Mueller spune si astazi ca ii este frica de Securitate. Si o&lt;br&gt;
spune des, o scrie de multe ori.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Sprijinul regimului comunist cel mai mare din TOATE tarile din lume,&lt;br&gt;
inclusiv cele comuniste, a fost in Romania. Dovada? Il citez pe&lt;br&gt;
Ceausescu: Romania are cel mai mare partid comunist din toate tarile&lt;br&gt;
ca procentaj al populatiei. Acesta este un fapt care poate fi&lt;br&gt;
verificat. Cind cineva era invitat sa intre in partid, accepta. Mai&lt;br&gt;
rau, se rugau sa fie primiti. Cind eu am refuzat, m-au crezut nebun si&lt;br&gt;
am fost ridicat de Securitate. Profesori de-ai mei incercau sa imi&lt;br&gt;
faca greutati si eram ridicat de Securitate in timpul cursurilor la&lt;br&gt;
Universitatea Timisoara. Stiu si cine dintre profesorii mei ma&lt;br&gt;
denuntau. Eram singurul care spunea deschis si scria ca in Romania nu&lt;br&gt;
se respecta constitutia scrisa sub regimul comunist! Cite dintre&lt;br&gt;
cunostiintele voastre cereau audienta la biroul comitetului central ca&lt;br&gt;
sa se plinga oficial de incalcarea legilor comuniste? Citi dintre&lt;br&gt;
oamenii pe care ii cunoasteti s-au dus la UNESCO, la Bucuresti, sa&lt;br&gt;
ceara ancheta asupra discriminarii politice in invatamint (nu te&lt;br&gt;
puteai inscrie la doctorat fara aprobarea partidului, de exemplu - eu&lt;br&gt;
nu am avut voie sa mai studiez in Romania). Citi oameni cunoasteti&lt;br&gt;
care au scris plingeri oficiale la ONU? Asta este rezistenta, nu vorbe&lt;br&gt;
goale! &amp;quot;Put your money where your mouth is&amp;quot; cum se spune in America.&lt;br&gt;
Ca pretemul meu din copilarie care avea tata roman si mama germana si&lt;br&gt;
vorbea pe scena teatrului german impotriva guvernului; a fost omorit.&lt;br&gt;
In familia mea am fost multi care am facut asta si cunosc alte familii&lt;br&gt;
unde asta era ceva normal. Daca numai 10 la suta din populatia&lt;br&gt;
Romaniei ar fi facut jumatate din ceea ce faceam noi, libertatea&lt;br&gt;
personala ar fi fost mult mai mare. Dar asta nu a fost cazul. Deci&lt;br&gt;
sprijinul direct si implicit al populatiei fata de regim era imens. Se&lt;br&gt;
plingeau ca nu este nimic in magazin, ca le era foame, ca nu pot&lt;br&gt;
calatorii, etc, dar erau membri de partid sau colaborau cu&lt;br&gt;
securitatea, se duceau la sedinte de partid si de sindicat. Eu nu m-am&lt;br&gt;
dus la asemenea sedinte si spuneam de ce - ca este inutil ca nu am&lt;br&gt;
nimic de spus si ca partidul a decis si noi trebuie sa tacem; citam&lt;br&gt;
din Marx, Lenin si Ceausescu ca sa imi justific atitudinea si imi&lt;br&gt;
bateam joc de ei in public caci stiam mai mult marxism decit ei -&lt;br&gt;
trebuie sa iti cunosti foarte bine dusmanul daca vrei sa&lt;br&gt;
supravietuiesti. Cei de la partid erau inebuniti cu mine si ma evitau&lt;br&gt;
in final. Altii ziceau &amp;quot;ce-i de facut?&amp;quot; Asta nu este o atitudine.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Fiecare popor isi merita guvernul pe care il are. Ei si-l fac.&lt;br&gt;
Guvernul unei tari este oglinda aspiratilor poporului respectiv. Daca&lt;br&gt;
este ocupatie straina, este altceva. Dar, dupa cum imi aduc aminte, nu&lt;br&gt;
erau trupe sovietice in Romania inca din anii 60! Deci Romania putea&lt;br&gt;
sa fi facut ceva ca Yugoslavia, la umbra URSS, dar nu a facut-o. De&lt;br&gt;
ce? Pentru ca nu era sprijin in populatie, rezistenta era facuta de un&lt;br&gt;
grup foarte mic din populatia totala - si asta o stiu din experienta&lt;br&gt;
proprie. Este extrem de trist ceea ce spun, dar este adevarat.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Nu ma credeti? Admirati va rog regimurile libere din est. De ce unele&lt;br&gt;
tari sunt mai civillizate decit altele. Au aceeasi conditie initiala,&lt;br&gt;
cum se spune in matematica. Cazul cel mai flagrant este Rusia. Poporul&lt;br&gt;
rus vrea sa aiba KGB la guvern. Il iubesc pe Putin si KGBul. Am fost&lt;br&gt;
in Rusia si am vazut asta - am ramas trasnit. Rusii isi merita&lt;br&gt;
guvernul pe care il au. Guvernul actual al Rusiei este imaginea&lt;br&gt;
aspiratiilor si capacitatii poporului rus - va las pe fiecare sa traga&lt;br&gt;
concluzia logica asupra Romaniei.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Sa va dau un alt exemplu, de astazi, puteti sa verificati. Nu cred ca&lt;br&gt;
ati stiut ca in Muntii Apuseni a fost rezistenta impotriva guvernului,&lt;br&gt;
foarte indelungata. Va dau si zona: in jurul lui Buru si a Lupsei,&lt;br&gt;
adinc in Apuseni. Aveam 4 ani cind am vazut o executie in curtea&lt;br&gt;
Sfatului Popular la Timisoara caci locuiam la etajul 3 si vedeam in&lt;br&gt;
curte de sus. Asta este in plin centru, linga Catedrala. Executau un&lt;br&gt;
taran partizan din muntii Banatului. Era 1954! Acesti oameni rezistau&lt;br&gt;
cu arma in mina de 9 ani! Mergeti astazi in acea zona in Apuseni si&lt;br&gt;
intrebati ce se stie despre partizani. Stiti care este raspunsul,&lt;br&gt;
astazi, caci eu am intrebat? Ca erau niste banditi pe care armata si&lt;br&gt;
militia i-a omorit. Asta merita cei care s-au opus! Nici macar nu&lt;br&gt;
exista o amintire a cosatenilor. Este deprimant!&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Daca a fost mare opozitie la regimul comunist, de ce lumea traversa&lt;br&gt;
strada cind treceam ca sa nu ma salute? Voi nu stiti ce inseamna sa&lt;br&gt;
traiesti singur, fara nimeni. La noi, nimeni nu intra in casa. Eram&lt;br&gt;
leprosi. Eu nici nu stiam ce inseamna sa ai oaspeti sau sa te duci la&lt;br&gt;
cineva in vizita. Sau cunosteam un copil cu care m jucam si deodata&lt;br&gt;
aflu ca tatal lui s-a spinzurat datorita interogarilor. Astazi toti au&lt;br&gt;
fost mari eroi care s-au opus. Dupa ce am fost expulzat, timp de 15&lt;br&gt;
ani nici o singura persoana din Romania, cu exceptia unui coleg de&lt;br&gt;
facultate, nu a tinut legatura cu mine. Dupa revolutie deoadata am&lt;br&gt;
avut foarte multi prieteni vechi.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Daca a fost opozitie serioasa in Romania, cum se explica libertatea&lt;br&gt;
mai mare in Polonia, Ungaria, Cehoslovacia decit in Romania cu toate&lt;br&gt;
ca aceste tari aveau trupe sovietice stationate si Romania nu avea?&lt;br&gt;
Polonia sub Jaruzelski cu tancuri sovietice avea mai mari libertati&lt;br&gt;
personale decit Romania! Romanii au suferit mult? Comparat cu Polonia&lt;br&gt;
a fost bine. Stiti citi au fost exterminati in Polonia? Aproape 1.6&lt;br&gt;
milioane! Uitati-va la&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/20TH.HTM&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/20TH.HTM&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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Romania nici nu intra pe listele principale ale marilor &amp;quot;democide&amp;quot;. Si&lt;br&gt;
totusi, polonezii s-au opus regimului in mod sistematic, indiferent de&lt;br&gt;
citi morti au avut. Nu au putut sa ii omoare pe toti!&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
3.) Romania de astazi este inca condusa de foste cadre de partid si de&lt;br&gt;
securitate. Acesta este un fapt. Sunt incintat ca am vazut scris ca&lt;br&gt;
&amp;quot;Romania suntem noi&amp;quot;. Asta imi da sperante. Deci daca voi, acesti&lt;br&gt;
tineri, sunteti Romania, sa aveti o atitudine si sa nu alegeti fosti&lt;br&gt;
membri de partid! O faceti? Va intereseaza pe cine alegeti? Mergeti la&lt;br&gt;
vot? Sper ca da.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
In Romania de astazi o declaratie ca regimul comunist a fost la fel de&lt;br&gt;
criminal ca cel fascist NU A FOST VOTATA in parlament. Mai vreti&lt;br&gt;
dovada ca acest regim comunist mai este si astazi sprijinit? Va invit&lt;br&gt;
la Hanoi, la muzeul etnografic care are jumatatea spatiului dedicat&lt;br&gt;
&amp;quot;ororilor regimului comunist&amp;quot;. Eu am fost la acest muzeu si este&lt;br&gt;
ingrozitor! Nu am putut iesi din el timp de 6 ore - eram extrem de&lt;br&gt;
emotionat si trebuia sa ma odihnesc ca sa mai pot vedea. Unde este un&lt;br&gt;
asemenea muzeu in Europa de Est? Nici macar la Berlin! Nu vreau sa il&lt;br&gt;
descriu ca te atinge foarte adinc. Ori, Vietnamul este o tara&lt;br&gt;
comunista, oficial! Rusine tuturor tarilor ex-comuniste cu amnezie&lt;br&gt;
totala si iresponsabilitate morala si sociala! Au de invatat de la&lt;br&gt;
Vietnam.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Au fost deschise arhivele securitatii in Romania? Nici vorba! Doar&lt;br&gt;
cind vor sa se scape de unul apar dosare. Eu habar nu am cine conduce&lt;br&gt;
Romania. Dar pot sa va spun ca am refuzat sa ma duc la Bucuresti sa&lt;br&gt;
iau un mare premiu national numai pentru ca ar fi trebuit sa dau mina&lt;br&gt;
cu Iliescu. Dupa 8-9 luni am fost la Ambasada Romaniei, impreuna cu un&lt;br&gt;
coleg mai batrin, Cornelui Constantinescu (care a facut lagar politic&lt;br&gt;
in Romania si este pensionat de la ETHZ) sa ne ridicam premiile. Am&lt;br&gt;
fost insotit, bineinteles, de un reprezentant al sectiei culturale a&lt;br&gt;
ambasadei USA de la Berna - am insistat asupra acestui fapt deoarece&lt;br&gt;
sunt american si ma duceam la o ambasada straina pentru o activitate&lt;br&gt;
care era legata de acea tara; el a fost oficial invitat de ambasada&lt;br&gt;
romana la aceast eveniment deoarece un american a fost onorat de&lt;br&gt;
guvernul roman.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
4.) Romania nu a anulat pina astazi sentintele impotriva celor fugiti.&lt;br&gt;
Ati stiut asta? Sunt sigur ca nu. Pe mine asta nu ma afecteaza caci eu&lt;br&gt;
nu sunt fugit ci expulzat. Am fost ridicat la 2 dimineata din pat,&lt;br&gt;
inchis la Securitate, mi s-a dat un pasaport si mi s-a spus sa prasesc&lt;br&gt;
tara in 48 de ore si ca daca ma intorc voi fi impuscat; sa fiu atent&lt;br&gt;
ce fac in apus daca vreau sa supravietuiesc. Stiu ca exista o sentinta&lt;br&gt;
impotriva mea in Romania datorita expulzarii. Nu stiu ce spune, n-am&lt;br&gt;
vazut-o nici o data, dar stiu altii care au fost in situatia mea si&lt;br&gt;
care au aflat despre asta. Avind in vedere ca ma cheama Ratiu, nu este&lt;br&gt;
nici un dubiu ca exista o sentinta mai grava impotriva mea. Deci,&lt;br&gt;
oficial, si astazi sunt criminal in Romania. Asta are consecinte. Ma&lt;br&gt;
duc extrem de rar in Romania si cind ma duc, este pe timp foarte de&lt;br&gt;
scurt (3-4 zile). Ma duc in general la conferinte cind sunt inconjurat&lt;br&gt;
de colegi straini sau cu unul din copiii mei (nascuti in USA, care&lt;br&gt;
sunt majori) sau cu nevasta mea care este naturalizata americana dar&lt;br&gt;
nu este din Romania. Nici o data nu ma duc singur! Am un coleg care nu&lt;br&gt;
a intrat in Romania din 1978. Este membru al academiei de stiinte USA&lt;br&gt;
si a luat cea mai mare dsitinctie stiintifica americana: The&lt;br&gt;
Presidential Medal of Honor data de Presedintele USA personal la Casa&lt;br&gt;
Alba. Dar el nu intra in Romania caci este fugit si deci criminal inca&lt;br&gt;
si astazi in Romania. Asta este atitudinea Romaniei fata de diaspora!&lt;br&gt;
Acest matematician este probabil cel mai mare om de stiinta roman la&lt;br&gt;
ora actuala. In orice caz este cel mai decorat.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Cum am spus in scrisoarea mea trecuta, acest grup de oameni sunt&lt;br&gt;
tinuti si astazi la distanta si Romania este foarte bucuroasa daca nu&lt;br&gt;
apar in tara.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
M-am interesat, in principiu, daca este posibil ca copiii mei sa ia&lt;br&gt;
cetatenie romana. Este imposibil! Sau la fel de posibil ca lui&lt;br&gt;
Mohammed Abdul sau lui Zexiang Wu. As fi vrut sa ii leg de tara macar&lt;br&gt;
in principiu datorita numelui care il poarta, dar nu se poate. Deci si&lt;br&gt;
urmasii acestor oameni sunt tinuti departe de tara. Contrastati asta&lt;br&gt;
cu ce se intimpla in alte tari. De exemplu daca cineva poate demonstra&lt;br&gt;
ca are un bunic italian, spaniol, irlandez sau ungur, poate cere&lt;br&gt;
cetatenia acestor tari oriunde ar fi in lume (despre aceste tari stiu&lt;br&gt;
precis caci am cunostiinte care au facut asta). Nici nu mai vorbesc de&lt;br&gt;
Germania sau Israel cu &amp;quot;Law of Return&amp;quot;.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Sa ne intoarcem la Herta Mueller. Aceste aspecte din Romania sunt cele&lt;br&gt;
criticate de ea  si are mare dreptate. In sfirsit cineva care spune&lt;br&gt;
aceste lucruri este ascultat, caci pe mine nu ma asculta nimeni&lt;br&gt;
deoarece sunt matematician si deci nu am nici un ascendent literar,&lt;br&gt;
politic, sau sociologic. Despre aceste lucruri vorbeste foarte urit -&lt;br&gt;
cum ar putea vorbi altfel? De fapt, eu ma mir ca Herta Mueller nu&lt;br&gt;
vorbeste si mai urit! Eu ii pot da material mai rau decit ceea ce&lt;br&gt;
scrie, si nu sunt singurul. O pot pune in legatura cu multi oameni&lt;br&gt;
care ii pot povesti lucruri care fac sa para romanele ei pline de&lt;br&gt;
optimism! Asta este partea Romaniei pe care ea o critica aspru.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Deci daca Romania sunteti voi, aceasta generatie tinara, aveti o mare&lt;br&gt;
responsabilitate caci fara sa vreti, purtati rusinea generatiei&lt;br&gt;
anterioare. Daca doriti ca Romania sa fie luata in serios si sa nu se&lt;br&gt;
mai vorbeasca urit de ea, trebuie sa aveti constiinta civica si&lt;br&gt;
responsabilitate morala. Puteti schimba lucrurile. Tara este a&lt;br&gt;
voastra, nu a mea, aveti tot viitorul in fata, nu ca mine. Deci fiti&lt;br&gt;
responsabili politic. Nu are nici o importanta cu ce partid votati,&lt;br&gt;
dar votati oameni seriosi, oameni care nu au colaborat cu regimul&lt;br&gt;
comunist. Sper ca dintre voi vor fi in citiva ani reprezentaniti in&lt;br&gt;
parlament si in guvern. Daca Romania sunteti voi, fiti demni de&lt;br&gt;
aceasta chemare, participati la conducerea tarii, fiecare cum puteti&lt;br&gt;
si cum stiti sa o faceti.&lt;br&gt;
Fiecare la locul lui poate avea o atitudine responsabila si daca asta&lt;br&gt;
reusiti sa o extindeti la multi oameni faceti minuni. Voi sunteti&lt;br&gt;
aceia care trebuie sa schimbati lucrurile. Nimeni nu vine din exterior&lt;br&gt;
sa va curete casa.&lt;br&gt;
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Este ultima scrisoare la care mai raspund. Am enorm de lucru, am prea&lt;br&gt;
multi doctoranzi si postdocs, prea multe proiecte de cercetare cu&lt;br&gt;
colegi pretutindeni in lume ca sa ma pot ocupa de altceva decit de&lt;br&gt;
lucru. Va doresc numai bine si sper sa mai aud de voi in viitor numai&lt;br&gt;
lucruri bune.&lt;br&gt;
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Tudor Ratiu&lt;br&gt;
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&amp;gt; Dupa o asemenea interventie emotionanta e greu sa mai adaugi ceva...&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; Am sa o fac totusi. Pentru ca exista o nuanta. Drama ingrozitoare a&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; acestei comunitati, descrisa de Hetha Muller si de domnul profesor&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; Ratiu trebuie plasata obligatoriu intr-un context mai larg. Mai&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; precis, a fost drama a 99 la suta dintre romani, cei care nu au fost&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; securisti, care timp de cel putin 20 de ani (1970-1989) au trait ca&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; niste animale, neavind voie sa vorbeasca, sa manance, sa se uite la&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; televizor, sa studieze ce vor, unde vor, in general sa faca ce vor, sa&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; fie normal. Si eu am prieteni orfani de mici, al caror parinti au fost&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; ucisi de securitate,gasiti morti in canale,  prieteni ai caror parinti&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; au fost hartuiti de securitate. A fost o drama generalizata.&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; Si acum nuanta. Muller a vorbit foarte urat despre Romania, cel putin&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; din 2006 incoace de cand a fost invitata in Romania si tratata ca un&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; super-star literar absolut. Sa acuzi Romania e un nonsens. Romania nu&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; un concept bine definit. Poti sa-l acuzi pe Ceausescu, poti sa acuzi&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; securitatea, partidul de la guvernare, pe Vadim, sau mai stiu eu ce&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; alte animale umblatoare. Dar in momentul in care 99 la suta din&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; populatie a trecut prin aceeasi drama si este solidara cu pozitia lui&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; Muller, este o greseala sa acuzi direct Romania.&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; Singura modalitate in care se poate defini Romania exclude orice acuza&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; la adresa acesteia. Romania suntem noi.&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; Dan,&lt;br&gt;
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&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Discutia pe care o urmaresc din generatia voastra este&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; foarte interesanta pentru mine. Nu stiu de fapt ce&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; intelegeti din ceea ce scrie si spune ea.&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Herta Mueller reprezinta un fragment al  societatii din&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Banat care s-a opus deschis regimului. I-am ascultat&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; un interview: vorbeste germana &amp;quot;mea&amp;quot;, cu accentul&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;quot;corect&amp;quot; is familiar, cea pe care o utilizez si astazi&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; cu colegii germanofoni din departament, germana&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; invatata la virsta de 4 ani. Ea a fost la liceul german de&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; la Timisoara si la universitate cu mine, trei ani dupa&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; mine. Eu nu am cunoscut-o dar fratele meu care este&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; cu patru ani mai tinar o stie, nu foarte bine. Aceasta&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; patura era foarte multinationala la Timisoara: romani,&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; unguri, nemti, evrei, sirbi. Dar toti aveam  in comun un&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; lucru: cel putin un membru din familie a fost in lagar&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; de exterminare si, in general, aveam toti cel putin o&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; ruda apropiata care a fost ucisa in lagar. Nici unul&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; dintre noi nu este binevenit astazi in Romania,&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; indiferent de originea nationala. Prietenii pe care&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; i-am avut atunci au ramas prieteni si astazi&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; dar nici unul nu mai este in Romania. Numai unul a&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; ramas, caci a fost calcat de un tren pentru ca a vorbit&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; deschis pe scena teatrului german de la Timisoara&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; impotriva regimului.&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Faptul ca scrie in germana este foarte putin important.&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Ea vorbeste in numele acestei paturi din Banat si&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Transilvania care a fost si este inca si astazi prigonita&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; in Romania. In interview la telefon in germana cind&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; o anunta ca a primit premiul Nobel si este intrebata&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; cum este primita in Romania astazi, raspunsul este&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; ca in general prost. Pentru mine asta este evident!&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; O stiu pe piele proprie. Cunostiintele  mele si colegii&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; de matematica evident ca ma primesc bine dar,&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; in general, de la intrarea in tara cind imi citesc&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; numele pe pasaportul american (eu am fost expulzat)&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; sunt ostili. Ea o spune  clar ca in Germania era tratata&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; ca straina. Eu si restul familiei mele (un frate si parinti)&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; am stiut asta asa ca am plecat cit de departe era posibil:&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; in California, la 10 ore de decalaj orar. Ea vorbeste&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; de deportari in URSS; eu am prieteni apropiati a caror&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; mama a fost deportata in minele de carbune din&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Siberia, am avut profesori veniti din deportare la liceul&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; german care ne povesteau, la cursul de rusa, cum&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; era in lagar. Ea vorbeste cum a fost ostracizata de&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; comunitatea germana pentru ca vorbea deschis&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; contra nazismului. Alt lucru comun, nu numai cu mine&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; dar cu alti prieteni de la liceu. Eu eram prost vazut&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; in liceul german si mi-a trebuit 8 ani ca sa ma&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; accepte ca integrat datorita atitudinii antifasciste&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; a familiei care era foarte bine cunoscuta. Impreuna&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; cu un prieten evreu care imi este si astazi la fel&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; de apropiat ca fratele meu, eram la liceul german&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; pentru ca atitudinea ostila a profesorilor nemti&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; fata de noi era cu mult mai buna decit discriminarea&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; politica pe care am fi avut de indurat intr-un liceu&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; roman. Le-am fost recunoscatori &amp;quot;den Banater Schwaben&amp;quot;&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; care m-au educat bine, dincolo de ceea ce trebuia&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; sa invatam,  si in final, in ultimii patru ani de liceu&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; m-au tratat la egalitate si corect, ceea ce nu a&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; a fost cazul la universitatea romana din Timisoara!&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Cind o ascult pe Herta Mueller vorbind sunt inapoi&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; la liceul german cu prietenii mei si rudele noastre&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; omorite in lagare, fie in URSS dar mai cu seama&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; in Romania. Vorbeste de amnezie colectiva in&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Romania. Asa este! Am vazut la Hanoi mai multa&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; critica a regimului comunist decit la Bucuresti,&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Budapesta, Praga, Varsovia si Berlin puse impreuna.&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; In sfirsit este cineva din generatia mea care are&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; audienta mondiala si care poate vorbi in numele&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; nostru, a celor din Banat care s-au opus deschis&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; si care au platit, unii chiar cu viata, aceasta&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; atitudine. Acesti oameni sunt incomozi in Romania&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; si tara face totul sa ii tina departe si sa fie&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; uitati ca au existat o data si ca s-au nascut&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; in Romania.&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Tudor Ratiu&lt;br&gt;
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&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Numele ei de fata: Herta Moraru.&lt;br&gt;
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&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Salutare,&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Cred ca cel mai corect e ca e un nobel german dar si un nobel&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; romanesc. Castigatoarea este cetatean roman si german a trait 65 la&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; suta din viata in Romania, acolo a facut liceul facultatea, s-a format&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; probabil in tzara. Probabil ca asa va intra in analele istoriei, multi&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; dintre laureatii Nobel aveau cetatenie multipla.&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Dar nu putem ignora faptul ca un cetatean roman, care si-a trait 65 la&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; suta din Romania, a luat premiul Nobel (chiar daca a fost propusa de&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Germania, premiul se atribuie persoanei si nu tarii, tara doar si-l&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; atribuie neoficial, ceea ce si Germania si Romania vor face).&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Ceea ce e cel mai trist e chestia cu numele, adica romanii au voie sa&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; se numeasca doar Ghita, Vasile, Niculae, Ion. Cred ca 20 la suta&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; dintre cetatenii romani care se numesc Janos, Jolt, Herman, Assaf,&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; s-ar simti jigniti. Da Elie Wiesel si Hertha Muller sunt cetateni&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; romani, exact asa cum suntem noi toti si poate asa se simt. 60 la suta&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; dintre studentii elvetieni la care predau nu au nume elvetiene. Si in&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Romania traiesc minoritati, care sunt romani, exact cum suntem si noi.&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; ps1: Nicu, am o veste proasta: esti roman (chiar daca ai plecat din&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; tara cand erai cu 11 ani mai tanar decat Hertha Muller (1987)).&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; ps2: Herman Oberth, cel mai mare om de stiinta roman poate, nascut la&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Sibiu, scolit la Cluj, nu pare nici el roman nu? dar oare ce sunt&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; oamenii astia?&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; chiar nu vreau sa inflamam spiritele, doar sa ajungem la consens ca e&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; un Nobel romanesc si nemtesc, si ca si cei cu nume care nu se regasesc&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; la tzara in Romania, sunt romani.&lt;br&gt;
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&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Dan.&lt;br&gt;
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&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Salutare tuturor,&lt;br&gt;
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&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Cu riscul de a starni spiritele :-)&lt;br&gt;
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&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Herta Müller - nume tipic romanesc -, plecata din 1987 din Romania,&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; nominalizata din partea Germaniei pentru premiu.&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Nu pun la indoiala faptul ca e nascuta si a trait 34 de ani in Romania.&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Dar venind din partea unui matematician, as fi mai atent cu semnul de&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;quot;=&amp;quot;, Dane! :-)&lt;br&gt;
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&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Toate bune,&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Nicu&lt;br&gt;
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&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 2009/10/8  &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25888207&amp;i=13&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;dantitus.salajan@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;:&lt;br&gt;
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&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Salutare,&lt;br&gt;
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&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Premiul Nobel pentru literatura 2009= Romania&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.observatorcultural.ro/Citeste-mai-departe-?*articleID_22571-articles_details.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.observatorcultural.ro/Citeste-mai-departe-?*articleID_22571-articles_details.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;

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&amp;gt;&amp;gt; --&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Tudor Ratiu&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Department of Mathematics, Station 8&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Chair of Geometric Analysis&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Director, Bernoulli Center&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; CH-1015 Lausanne, Switzerland&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Mathematics office phone: 41 21 693 2777&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Mathematics office fax: 41 21 693 5440&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Mathematics secretary, Mrs. Marcia Gouffon: 41 21 693 5555&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Bernoulli Center phone: 41 21 693 0345&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Bernoulli Center secretary, Mrs. Christiane de Paola: 41 21 693 2583&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;
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--&lt;br&gt;
Tudor Ratiu&lt;br&gt;
Department of Mathematics, Station 8&lt;br&gt;
Chair of Geometric Analysis&lt;br&gt;
Director, Bernoulli Center&lt;br&gt;
Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne&lt;br&gt;
CH-1015 Lausanne, Switzerland&lt;br&gt;
Mathematics office phone: 41 21 693 2777&lt;br&gt;
Mathematics office fax: 41 21 693 5440&lt;br&gt;
Mathematics secretary, Mrs. Marcia Gouffon: 41 21 693 5555&lt;br&gt;
Bernoulli Center phone: 41 21 693 0345&lt;br&gt;
Bernoulli Center secretary, Mrs. Christiane de Paola: 41 21 693 2583&lt;br&gt;
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-25858583</id>
	<title>Re: OVR si o doza de recunostinta</title>
	<published>2009-10-12T09:10:55Z</published>
	<updated>2009-10-12T09:10:55Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Alexandru Arion-3</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Este o nuanta mentionata de dl Ratiu pe care nu as lasa-o sa se
&lt;br&gt;piarda: Clar ca toti au facut ce era mai bine pentru ei, ce le
&lt;br&gt;maximiza sansele de supravietuire, dat fiind regimul de atunci. Toti
&lt;br&gt;s-au gandit ce inseamna sa accepte propunerile securitatii, si unii au
&lt;br&gt;refuzat, cei mai multi au acceptat, si au intarit regimul.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Insa sa excluzi ca un grad mai mare de dezvoltare a rezistentei ar fi
&lt;br&gt;fost un ingredient al dezvoltarii sociale post 89, este o eroare. Sa
&lt;br&gt;ne uitam la Cehia, la Polonia. Asta desigur nu se mai poate schimba,
&lt;br&gt;DAR, acolo unde dezvoltarea sociala era cultivata, in diaspora, acolo
&lt;br&gt;s-au pus bariere de catre noua putere politica, care nu era foarte
&lt;br&gt;noua. De ce in Romania inca se mai poate face campanie electorala cu
&lt;br&gt;mici si cu discursuri incoerente? Cand un om politic ar putea pune
&lt;br&gt;umarul la ridicarea din mocirla a unei societatii, de ce la noi unii
&lt;br&gt;aleg sa nu puna umarul la asta, pentru ca &amp;quot;merge si asa&amp;quot;? Pentru ca
&lt;br&gt;lumea a acordat atentie televizorului, care continea proportii departe
&lt;br&gt;de optim de opinii politice, venite dintr-o selectie foarte neuniforma
&lt;br&gt;la nivel de societate a noilor lideri: inclinata catre membrii fostei
&lt;br&gt;puteri, si excluzand &amp;quot;prin sistem&amp;quot; accesul uniform, cum ar fi normal,
&lt;br&gt;prea ideal poate.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cu bine,
&lt;br&gt;Alex Arion
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2009/10/12 &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25858583&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;dantitus.salajan@...&lt;/a&gt; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25858583&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;dantitus.salajan@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Multumesc Paul. Pentru primul mail coerent si rational pe care l-am
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; citit de cand a inceput discutia. E mesajul pe care l-as fi scris si
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; eu, daca aveam mai multa inspiratie.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Dan,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Quoting Paul &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25858583&amp;i=2&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;p.r.vasos@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;           Dragi prieteni,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Trebuie sa va scriu un mesaj pentru a trimite un document
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; al 'Operation Villages Roumains' - este un document care
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; marcheaza aniversarea a 20 de ani si contine mai multe parti,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; va rog sa imi cereti continuarea, daca va intereseaza.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; As vrea sa adaug cateva observatii privind dialogul care se
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; desfasoara:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Imi pare ca a vorbi despre lasitate si lipsa de combativitate
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; in fata comunismului in Romania este prea usor astazi,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; din pozitia in care ne aflam.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Cateodata este o dovada de mai mult curaj sa ramai langa
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; unchi, bunici, nepoti, sa induri si sa astepti, decat sa te
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; sinucizi intr-un sacrificiu simbolic sau sa parasesti tara in
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; semn de protest.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Sunt dintr-o familie din care a facut parte si Sandu Tudor
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; ('Rugul Aprins'). Cunoscand aceasta forma de reactie la
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; comunism, cred ca am dreptul sa vorbesc si despre o alta
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; forma de rezistenta, despre nobletea celor care au trecut linistiti
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; de la petrecerile in palate princiare la cozile interminabile si la
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; inghetatul polar, pentru a fi unii cu altii, pentru a ne creste pe noi.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Stiu de ce se uita unii lung la pasapoartele straine, nu din
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; vreo discriminare fata de minoritati (din nou, vorbesc in cunostinta
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; de cauza, ca membru al comunitatii grecesti), ci din cauza
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; cicatricilor ramase tocmai de la comunisti. Privirea lor spune 'tu nu ai
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; mancat salam cu soia'.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Ar fi absurd sa invinovatim poporul roman de comunism. Ar fi ca si cum i-am
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; invinovati pe toti germanii pentru Hitler. Mai rau, chiar, pentru ca
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; inainte de sosirea
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; rusilor PC totaliza cateva mii de membri si de zece ori mai multi paduchi.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Populatia Romaniei a format un organism complex care a realizat o
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; retea de solidaritate
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; cu scopul conservarii si a respirat amplu la Revolutie, atunci cand
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; presiunea externa
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; a permis o eliberare.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Motivul pentru care erau mai multi membri in partidul comunist este
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; strict geografic: presiunea a variat invers proportional cu distanta fata
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; de marele prieten de la est. Intensitatea miscarii revolutionare a demonstrat
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; ca exista o apasare cu mult superioara celei din alte tari.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Inainte de a ne auto-flagela, sa nu uitam sa fim recunoscatori celor care
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; au ramas, au suportat, si nu au uitat nici macar datoria discretiei.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; La finele acestei pledoarii pe care o datoram tuturor celor pe care
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; ii cunosc (100 %),
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; care au suferit cumplit sub comunisti, si care nu au gasit, iata,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; metode pentru a
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; ii matura mai devreme - imi dau seama ca acum noi putem gasi acum
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; niste solutii mult
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; mai inteligente - trebuie sa spun ca intr-adevar societatea ar
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; trebui sa se indrepte
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; mai repede, ca inertia este revoltatoare, ca guvernul si
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; functionarimea sunt inca
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; ocupate in prea mare proportie de cei care nu au interesul sa se miste.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Si le multumesc celor care au facut ceva pentru a misca lucrurile.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Premiul Nobel recunoaste implicit calitatea unei scoli din Romania si, sper,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; va incuraja reformarea unor structuri, in aceasi tara.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Cu bine,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;          Paul Vasos
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; ---------- Forwarded message ----------
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; From: &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25858583&amp;i=3&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;silviucosmin.sandu@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;lt;mailto:&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25858583&amp;i=4&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;silviucosmin.sandu@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Date: 2009/10/12
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Subject: Despre asumare
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; To: &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25858583&amp;i=5&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;tudor.ratiu@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;lt;mailto:&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25858583&amp;i=6&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;tudor.ratiu@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25858583&amp;i=7&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;tudor.ratiu@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;lt;mailto:&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25858583&amp;i=8&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;tudor.ratiu@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Cc: &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25858583&amp;i=9&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ro@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;lt;mailto:&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25858583&amp;i=10&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ro@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Draga domnule Ratiu,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Ma numesc Cosmin Sandu si sunt post-doc la EPFL si am trait sub
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; comunism pana la 17 ani. Atunci nu am putut sa inteleg complicitatea
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; mea la regimul comunist.Acum o inteleg. Din pacate, cei mai multi
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; dintre tineri nu sunt constienti de responsabilitatea lor si a
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; parintilor lor fata de regimul comunist, de lasitatea in care au
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; fost si inca sunt educati.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Poate ar fi util sa ne intalnim cu tinerii romani de la ARO si sa-i
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; invatati aceste realitati!Atentie ARo, este o propunere pt voi!
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Ma bucura foarte mult scrisoarea dumneavoastra si sper ca vorbind si
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; altora despre aceste lucruri sa reusiti sa le schimbati gandirea
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; absurd de nationalista. Aveti aceasta datorie morala fata de cei ce
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; au murit pentru idei ca si cele pe care le exprimati dumneavoastra.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Ma gandesc ca ar fi extraordinar sa publicati aceste randuri intr-un
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; articol despre Herta Muler. Poate chiar Caminul Romanesc de la
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Geneva ar dori sa-l publice. Ar fi o mare pierdere ca aceste randuri
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; ale dumneavoastra sa nu fie cunoscute.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Mi-ar face o deosebita placere sa ma intalnesc cu dumneavoastra la
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; EPFL pt a va cunoaste personal.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Cu consideratie,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Cosmin SANDU
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25858583&amp;i=11&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;tudor.ratiu@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;lt;mailto:&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25858583&amp;i=12&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;tudor.ratiu@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25858583&amp;i=13&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;tudor.ratiu@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;lt;mailto:&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25858583&amp;i=14&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;tudor.ratiu@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; a écrit :
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Nu vreau sa intru in nici o polemica cu nimeni, dar aceasta
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; scrisoare are citeva fapte inexacte si numai de aceea raspund.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 1.) Herta Mueller NU a vorbit prost despre Romania. Dimpotriva! A
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; dedicat una din cartile ei cele mai importante &amp;quot;The land of the green
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; plums&amp;quot; (dau titlul in engleza caci imi dau seama ca putini mai vorbesc
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; germana intre romani) prietenilor ei romani care au suferit sub
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; regimul comunist. Nu numai atit: in interviews pe care le-a dat in
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Germania a insistat asupra acestui fapt si a spus ca era datoria ei
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; morala sa scrie despre cum romanii au suferit sub regimul comunist.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; In plus, intr-un interview major in Germania (pe care l-am ascultat),
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; a insistat cum a dorit sa invete romaneste la virsta
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; de 15 ani cind a ajuns la Timisoara. Mai mult, a declarat ca datorita
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; faptului ca stie romaneste a putut sa scrie mai bine in germana caci o
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; cunoastere profunda a unei alte limbi, si a insistat asupra romanei pe
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; care a caracterizat-o ca o limba cu totul deosebita,  a ajutat-o sa
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; vada fiecare fapt dintr-un alt punct de vedere.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Are perfecta dreptate si stiu despre ce vorbeste. Eu sunt
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; quadrilingual si mai vorbesc inca alte doua limbi prost, dar pot sa
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; citesc literatura. Sunt lucruri care le poti spune numai intr-o limba
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; si nu pot fi traduse datorita substraturilor culturale asociate cu
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; anumite expresii. Sa va dau un exemplu clasic: Make my day! (Clint
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Eastwood) este intraductibil. Pentru un american spune volume. Orice
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; traducere pierde 90% din continutul implicit.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Deci Herta Muelle nu a vorbit rau despre Romania. Voi reveni mai jos
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; ce a criticat foarte aspru si continua sa o faca.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 2.) Este inexact ca 99% din populatie a suferit. Eu am trait in
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; aceasta perioada, parintii mei au trait mai mult in regimul comunist.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Nu pot sa spun citi au suferit. Au fost multi, asta este sigur. Dar
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; regimul comunist a avut sprijin in Romania si mai are si acum. Este un
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; fapt extrem de rusinos pentru mine personal, ca roman. In general eu
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; refuz sa discut aceasta problema cu orice strain si le aduc aminte ca
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; nationalitatea mea oficiala este cea americana si deci nu am de-a face
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; cu acest subiect. Citi au fost ca familia mea care s-a opus deschis
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; regimului si au pierdut membri? Citi au fost ca majoritatea preotilor
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; greco-catolici care  s-au opus si au platit cu viata. Citi au fost ca
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; cei din Oastea Domnului, miscare in biserica ortodoxa, care s-au opus
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; si au fost ucisi in lagare? Oastea Domnului a fost distrusa de
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; biserica ortodoxa comunista. Vorbeste astazi cineva din biserica
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; ortodoxa despre ce s-a intimplat cu Oastea Domnului? Stie macar unul
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; din generatia voastra, ortodocsi, ce a fost Oastea Domnului? Eu stiu
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; si nu sunt ortodox. Citi au fost ca majoritatea neoprotestantilor,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; care au avut curajul sa faca zid de rezistenta? Cind preotul ortodox
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Calciu, a fost inchis, am fost eu,  parintii mei, fratele meu, care am
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; strins semnaturi in USA pentru eliberarea lui, nu fratii lui ortodocsi
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; (au reactionat dupa ce eu i-am facut de rusine). Ne-am dus la
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; bisericile ortodoxe sa le cerem sprijin si au fost biserici ortodoxe
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; in USA care au refuzat sa ma ajute sa string semnaturi; bineinteles ca
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; bisricile care erau sub arhipescopul Nathaniel de la Grass Lake m-au
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; ajutat, dar nu si celelalte. Mai rau, ma intrebau de ce vin la ei caci
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; nu sunt ortodox! Dar nici o biserica catolica sau protestanta nu m-a
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; refuzat! Mai mult, bisericile greco catolice din Midwest au facut mai
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; mult decit ce le cerusem. Am trimis cutii de semnaturi la fiecare
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; membru din Congres si Senat - si parintele Calciu a fost eliberat.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Sunt sigur ca nu am fost eu care a impins bolovanul, dar si eu am fost
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; printre aceia din toata lumea care nu au acceptat situatia. Impreuna
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; foarte mult se poate face. Am infruntat impreuna cu un coleg evreu de
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; la Chisinau o delegatie a bisericii ortodoxe romane care a venit la
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Ann Arbor in 1982 unde eram atunci tinar Assistant Professor si i-am
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; intrebat in public mai multe care nu le conveneau. Am ajutat
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; neoprotestanti din Midwest sa isi scoate familiile ca sa emigreze in
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; USA. I-am invatat ce trebuie sa faca politic ca sa isi scoate rudele
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; si sunt mindru ca pe fiecare pe care l-am ajutat si caruia i-am scris
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; petitii la congresul american si-a scos rudele. Am fost urmarit la
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Berkeley de Securitate. Stiu de cineva de la San Jose care a fost
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; batut si lasat aproape mort pentru ca organiza activitati impotriva
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; guvernului roman in California de Nord.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Herta Mueller spune si astazi ca ii este frica de Securitate. Si o
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; spune des, o scrie de multe ori.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Sprijinul regimului comunist cel mai mare din TOATE tarile din lume,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; inclusiv cele comuniste, a fost in Romania. Dovada? Il citez pe
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Ceausescu: Romania are cel mai mare partid comunist din toate tarile
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; ca procentaj al populatiei. Acesta este un fapt care poate fi
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; verificat. Cind cineva era invitat sa intre in partid, accepta. Mai
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; rau, se rugau sa fie primiti. Cind eu am refuzat, m-au crezut nebun si
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; am fost ridicat de Securitate. Profesori de-ai mei incercau sa imi
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; faca greutati si eram ridicat de Securitate in timpul cursurilor la
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Universitatea Timisoara. Stiu si cine dintre profesorii mei ma
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; denuntau. Eram singurul care spunea deschis si scria ca in Romania nu
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; se respecta constitutia scrisa sub regimul comunist! Cite dintre
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; cunostiintele voastre cereau audienta la biroul comitetului central ca
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; sa se plinga oficial de incalcarea legilor comuniste? Citi dintre
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; oamenii pe care ii cunoasteti s-au dus la UNESCO, la Bucuresti, sa
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; ceara ancheta asupra discriminarii politice in invatamint (nu te
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; puteai inscrie la doctorat fara aprobarea partidului, de exemplu - eu
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; nu am avut voie sa mai studiez in Romania). Citi oameni cunoasteti
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; care au scris plingeri oficiale la ONU? Asta este rezistenta, nu vorbe
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; goale! &amp;quot;Put your money where your mouth is&amp;quot; cum se spune in America.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Ca pretemul meu din copilarie care avea tata roman si mama germana si
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; vorbea pe scena teatrului german impotriva guvernului; a fost omorit.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; In familia mea am fost multi care am facut asta si cunosc alte familii
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; unde asta era ceva normal. Daca numai 10 la suta din populatia
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Romaniei ar fi facut jumatate din ceea ce faceam noi, libertatea
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; personala ar fi fost mult mai mare. Dar asta nu a fost cazul. Deci
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; sprijinul direct si implicit al populatiei fata de regim era imens. Se
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; plingeau ca nu este nimic in magazin, ca le era foame, ca nu pot
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; calatorii, etc, dar erau membri de partid sau colaborau cu
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; securitatea, se duceau la sedinte de partid si de sindicat. Eu nu m-am
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; dus la asemenea sedinte si spuneam de ce - ca este inutil ca nu am
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; nimic de spus si ca partidul a decis si noi trebuie sa tacem; citam
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; din Marx, Lenin si Ceausescu ca sa imi justific atitudinea si imi
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; bateam joc de ei in public caci stiam mai mult marxism decit ei -
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; trebuie sa iti cunosti foarte bine dusmanul daca vrei sa
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; supravietuiesti. Cei de la partid erau inebuniti cu mine si ma evitau
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; in final. Altii ziceau &amp;quot;ce-i de facut?&amp;quot; Asta nu este o atitudine.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Fiecare popor isi merita guvernul pe care il are. Ei si-l fac.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Guvernul unei tari este oglinda aspiratilor poporului respectiv. Daca
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; este ocupatie straina, este altceva. Dar, dupa cum imi aduc aminte, nu
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; erau trupe sovietice in Romania inca din anii 60! Deci Romania putea
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; sa fi facut ceva ca Yugoslavia, la umbra URSS, dar nu a facut-o. De
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; ce? Pentru ca nu era sprijin in populatie, rezistenta era facuta de un
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; grup foarte mic din populatia totala - si asta o stiu din experienta
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; proprie. Este extrem de trist ceea ce spun, dar este adevarat.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Nu ma credeti? Admirati va rog regimurile libere din est. De ce unele
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; tari sunt mai civillizate decit altele. Au aceeasi conditie initiala,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; cum se spune in matematica. Cazul cel mai flagrant este Rusia. Poporul
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; rus vrea sa aiba KGB la guvern. Il iubesc pe Putin si KGBul. Am fost
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; in Rusia si am vazut asta - am ramas trasnit. Rusii isi merita
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; guvernul pe care il au. Guvernul actual al Rusiei este imaginea
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; aspiratiilor si capacitatii poporului rus - va las pe fiecare sa traga
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; concluzia logica asupra Romaniei.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Sa va dau un alt exemplu, de astazi, puteti sa verificati. Nu cred ca
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; ati stiut ca in Muntii Apuseni a fost rezistenta impotriva guvernului,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; foarte indelungata. Va dau si zona: in jurul lui Buru si a Lupsei,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; adinc in Apuseni. Aveam 4 ani cind am vazut o executie in curtea
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Sfatului Popular la Timisoara caci locuiam la etajul 3 si vedeam in
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; curte de sus. Asta este in plin centru, linga Catedrala. Executau un
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; taran partizan din muntii Banatului. Era 1954! Acesti oameni rezistau
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; cu arma in mina de 9 ani! Mergeti astazi in acea zona in Apuseni si
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; intrebati ce se stie despre partizani. Stiti care este raspunsul,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; astazi, caci eu am intrebat? Ca erau niste banditi pe care armata si
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; militia i-a omorit. Asta merita cei care s-au opus! Nici macar nu
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; exista o amintire a cosatenilor. Este deprimant!
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Daca a fost mare opozitie la regimul comunist, de ce lumea traversa
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; strada cind treceam ca sa nu ma salute? Voi nu stiti ce inseamna sa
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; traiesti singur, fara nimeni. La noi, nimeni nu intra in casa. Eram
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; leprosi. Eu nici nu stiam ce inseamna sa ai oaspeti sau sa te duci la
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; cineva in vizita. Sau cunosteam un copil cu care m jucam si deodata
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; aflu ca tatal lui s-a spinzurat datorita interogarilor. Astazi toti au
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; fost mari eroi care s-au opus. Dupa ce am fost expulzat, timp de 15
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; ani nici o singura persoana din Romania, cu exceptia unui coleg de
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; facultate, nu a tinut legatura cu mine. Dupa revolutie deoadata am
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; avut foarte multi prieteni vechi.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Daca a fost opozitie serioasa in Romania, cum se explica libertatea
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; mai mare in Polonia, Ungaria, Cehoslovacia decit in Romania cu toate
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; ca aceste tari aveau trupe sovietice stationate si Romania nu avea?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Polonia sub Jaruzelski cu tancuri sovietice avea mai mari libertati
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; personale decit Romania! Romanii au suferit mult? Comparat cu Polonia
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; a fost bine. Stiti citi au fost exterminati in Polonia? Aproape 1.6
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; milioane! Uitati-va la
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/20TH.HTM&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/20TH.HTM&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Romania nici nu intra pe listele principale ale marilor &amp;quot;democide&amp;quot;. Si
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; totusi, polonezii s-au opus regimului in mod sistematic, indiferent de
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; citi morti au avut. Nu au putut sa ii omoare pe toti!
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 3.) Romania de astazi este inca condusa de foste cadre de partid si de
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; securitate. Acesta este un fapt. Sunt incintat ca am vazut scris ca
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Romania suntem noi&amp;quot;. Asta imi da sperante. Deci daca voi, acesti
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; tineri, sunteti Romania, sa aveti o atitudine si sa nu alegeti fosti
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; membri de partid! O faceti? Va intereseaza pe cine alegeti? Mergeti la
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; vot? Sper ca da.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; In Romania de astazi o declaratie ca regimul comunist a fost la fel de
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; criminal ca cel fascist NU A FOST VOTATA in parlament. Mai vreti
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; dovada ca acest regim comunist mai este si astazi sprijinit? Va invit
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; la Hanoi, la muzeul etnografic care are jumatatea spatiului dedicat
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;quot;ororilor regimului comunist&amp;quot;. Eu am fost la acest muzeu si este
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; ingrozitor! Nu am putut iesi din el timp de 6 ore - eram extrem de
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; emotionat si trebuia sa ma odihnesc ca sa mai pot vedea. Unde este un
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; asemenea muzeu in Europa de Est? Nici macar la Berlin! Nu vreau sa il
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; descriu ca te atinge foarte adinc. Ori, Vietnamul este o tara
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; comunista, oficial! Rusine tuturor tarilor ex-comuniste cu amnezie
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; totala si iresponsabilitate morala si sociala! Au de invatat de la
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Vietnam.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Au fost deschise arhivele securitatii in Romania? Nici vorba! Doar
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; cind vor sa se scape de unul apar dosare. Eu habar nu am cine conduce
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Romania. Dar pot sa va spun ca am refuzat sa ma duc la Bucuresti sa
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; iau un mare premiu national numai pentru ca ar fi trebuit sa dau mina
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; cu Iliescu. Dupa 8-9 luni am fost la Ambasada Romaniei, impreuna cu un
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; coleg mai batrin, Cornelui Constantinescu (care a facut lagar politic
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; in Romania si este pensionat de la ETHZ) sa ne ridicam premiile. Am
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; fost insotit, bineinteles, de un reprezentant al sectiei culturale a
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; ambasadei USA de la Berna - am insistat asupra acestui fapt deoarece
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; sunt american si ma duceam la o ambasada straina pentru o activitate
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; care era legata de acea tara; el a fost oficial invitat de ambasada
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; romana la aceast eveniment deoarece un american a fost onorat de
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; guvernul roman.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 4.) Romania nu a anulat pina astazi sentintele impotriva celor fugiti.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Ati stiut asta? Sunt sigur ca nu. Pe mine asta nu ma afecteaza caci eu
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; nu sunt fugit ci expulzat. Am fost ridicat la 2 dimineata din pat,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; inchis la Securitate, mi s-a dat un pasaport si mi s-a spus sa prasesc
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; tara in 48 de ore si ca daca ma intorc voi fi impuscat; sa fiu atent
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; ce fac in apus daca vreau sa supravietuiesc. Stiu ca exista o sentinta
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; impotriva mea in Romania datorita expulzarii. Nu stiu ce spune, n-am
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; vazut-o nici o data, dar stiu altii care au fost in situatia mea si
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; care au aflat despre asta. Avind in vedere ca ma cheama Ratiu, nu este
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; nici un dubiu ca exista o sentinta mai grava impotriva mea. Deci,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; oficial, si astazi sunt criminal in Romania. Asta are consecinte. Ma
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; duc extrem de rar in Romania si cind ma duc, este pe timp foarte de
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; scurt (3-4 zile). Ma duc in general la conferinte cind sunt inconjurat
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; de colegi straini sau cu unul din copiii mei (nascuti in USA, care
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; sunt majori) sau cu nevasta mea care este naturalizata americana dar
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; nu este din Romania. Nici o data nu ma duc singur! Am un coleg care nu
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; a intrat in Romania din 1978. Este membru al academiei de stiinte USA
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; si a luat cea mai mare dsitinctie stiintifica americana: The
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Presidential Medal of Honor data de Presedintele USA personal la Casa
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Alba. Dar el nu intra in Romania caci este fugit si deci criminal inca
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; si astazi in Romania. Asta este atitudinea Romaniei fata de diaspora!
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Acest matematician este probabil cel mai mare om de stiinta roman la
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; ora actuala. In orice caz este cel mai decorat.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Cum am spus in scrisoarea mea trecuta, acest grup de oameni sunt
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; tinuti si astazi la distanta si Romania este foarte bucuroasa daca nu
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; apar in tara.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; M-am interesat, in principiu, daca este posibil ca copiii mei sa ia
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; cetatenie romana. Este imposibil! Sau la fel de posibil ca lui
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Mohammed Abdul sau lui Zexiang Wu. As fi vrut sa ii leg de tara macar
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; in principiu datorita numelui care il poarta, dar nu se poate. Deci si
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; urmasii acestor oameni sunt tinuti departe de tara. Contrastati asta
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; cu ce se intimpla in alte tari. De exemplu daca cineva poate demonstra
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; ca are un bunic italian, spaniol, irlandez sau ungur, poate cere
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; cetatenia acestor tari oriunde ar fi in lume (despre aceste tari stiu
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; precis caci am cunostiinte care au facut asta). Nici nu mai vorbesc de
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Germania sau Israel cu &amp;quot;Law of Return&amp;quot;.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Sa ne intoarcem la Herta Mueller. Aceste aspecte din Romania sunt cele
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; criticate de ea  si are mare dreptate. In sfirsit cineva care spune
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; aceste lucruri este ascultat, caci pe mine nu ma asculta nimeni
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; deoarece sunt matematician si deci nu am nici un ascendent literar,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; politic, sau sociologic. Despre aceste lucruri vorbeste foarte urit -
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; cum ar putea vorbi altfel? De fapt, eu ma mir ca Herta Mueller nu
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; vorbeste si mai urit! Eu ii pot da material mai rau decit ceea ce
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; scrie, si nu sunt singurul. O pot pune in legatura cu multi oameni
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; care ii pot povesti lucruri care fac sa para romanele ei pline de
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; optimism! Asta este partea Romaniei pe care ea o critica aspru.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Deci daca Romania sunteti voi, aceasta generatie tinara, aveti o mare
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; responsabilitate caci fara sa vreti, purtati rusinea generatiei
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; anterioare. Daca doriti ca Romania sa fie luata in serios si sa nu se
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; mai vorbeasca urit de ea, trebuie sa aveti constiinta civica si
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; responsabilitate morala. Puteti schimba lucrurile. Tara este a
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; voastra, nu a mea, aveti tot viitorul in fata, nu ca mine. Deci fiti
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; responsabili politic. Nu are nici o importanta cu ce partid votati,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; dar votati oameni seriosi, oameni care nu au colaborat cu regimul
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; comunist. Sper ca dintre voi vor fi in citiva ani reprezentaniti in
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; parlament si in guvern. Daca Romania sunteti voi, fiti demni de
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; aceasta chemare, participati la conducerea tarii, fiecare cum puteti
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; si cum stiti sa o faceti.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Fiecare la locul lui poate avea o atitudine responsabila si daca asta
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; reusiti sa o extindeti la multi oameni faceti minuni. Voi sunteti
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; aceia care trebuie sa schimbati lucrurile. Nimeni nu vine din exterior
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; sa va curete casa.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Este ultima scrisoare la care mai raspund. Am enorm de lucru, am prea
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; multi doctoranzi si postdocs, prea multe proiecte de cercetare cu
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; colegi pretutindeni in lume ca sa ma pot ocupa de altceva decit de
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; lucru. Va doresc numai bine si sper sa mai aud de voi in viitor numai
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; lucruri bune.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Tudor Ratiu
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-25857350</id>
	<title>Re: OVR si o doza de recunostinta</title>
	<published>2009-10-12T08:05:52Z</published>
	<updated>2009-10-12T08:05:52Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>dantitus.salajan</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Multumesc Paul. Pentru primul mail coerent si rational pe care l-am &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;citit de cand a inceput discutia. E mesajul pe care l-as fi scris si &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;eu, daca aveam mai multa inspiratie.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Dan,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Quoting Paul &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25857350&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;p.r.vasos@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Dragi prieteni,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Trebuie sa va scriu un mesaj pentru a trimite un document
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; al 'Operation Villages Roumains' - este un document care
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; marcheaza aniversarea a 20 de ani si contine mai multe parti,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; va rog sa imi cereti continuarea, daca va intereseaza.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; As vrea sa adaug cateva observatii privind dialogul care se
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; desfasoara:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Imi pare ca a vorbi despre lasitate si lipsa de combativitate
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; in fata comunismului in Romania este prea usor astazi,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; din pozitia in care ne aflam.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Cateodata este o dovada de mai mult curaj sa ramai langa
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; unchi, bunici, nepoti, sa induri si sa astepti, decat sa te
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; sinucizi intr-un sacrificiu simbolic sau sa parasesti tara in
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; semn de protest.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Sunt dintr-o familie din care a facut parte si Sandu Tudor
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ('Rugul Aprins'). Cunoscand aceasta forma de reactie la
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; comunism, cred ca am dreptul sa vorbesc si despre o alta
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; forma de rezistenta, despre nobletea celor care au trecut linistiti
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; de la petrecerile in palate princiare la cozile interminabile si la
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; inghetatul polar, pentru a fi unii cu altii, pentru a ne creste pe noi.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Stiu de ce se uita unii lung la pasapoartele straine, nu din
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; vreo discriminare fata de minoritati (din nou, vorbesc in cunostinta
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; de cauza, ca membru al comunitatii grecesti), ci din cauza
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; cicatricilor ramase tocmai de la comunisti. Privirea lor spune 'tu nu ai
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; mancat salam cu soia'.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Ar fi absurd sa invinovatim poporul roman de comunism. Ar fi ca si cum i-am
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; invinovati pe toti germanii pentru Hitler. Mai rau, chiar, pentru ca &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; inainte de sosirea
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; rusilor PC totaliza cateva mii de membri si de zece ori mai multi paduchi.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Populatia Romaniei a format un organism complex care a realizat o &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; retea de solidaritate
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; cu scopul conservarii si a respirat amplu la Revolutie, atunci cand &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; presiunea externa
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; a permis o eliberare.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Motivul pentru care erau mai multi membri in partidul comunist este
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; strict geografic: presiunea a variat invers proportional cu distanta fata
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; de marele prieten de la est. Intensitatea miscarii revolutionare a demonstrat
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ca exista o apasare cu mult superioara celei din alte tari.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Inainte de a ne auto-flagela, sa nu uitam sa fim recunoscatori celor care
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; au ramas, au suportat, si nu au uitat nici macar datoria discretiei.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; La finele acestei pledoarii pe care o datoram tuturor celor pe care &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ii cunosc (100 %),
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; care au suferit cumplit sub comunisti, si care nu au gasit, iata, &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; metode pentru a
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ii matura mai devreme - imi dau seama ca acum noi putem gasi acum &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; niste solutii mult
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; mai inteligente - trebuie sa spun ca intr-adevar societatea ar &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; trebui sa se indrepte
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; mai repede, ca inertia este revoltatoare, ca guvernul si &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; functionarimea sunt inca
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ocupate in prea mare proportie de cei care nu au interesul sa se miste.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Si le multumesc celor care au facut ceva pentru a misca lucrurile.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Premiul Nobel recunoaste implicit calitatea unei scoli din Romania si, sper,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; va incuraja reformarea unor structuri, in aceasi tara.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Cu bine,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Paul Vasos
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ---------- Forwarded message ----------
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; From: &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25857350&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;silviucosmin.sandu@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;lt;mailto:&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25857350&amp;i=2&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;silviucosmin.sandu@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Date: 2009/10/12
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Subject: Despre asumare
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; To: &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25857350&amp;i=3&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;tudor.ratiu@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;lt;mailto:&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25857350&amp;i=4&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;tudor.ratiu@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;quot; &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25857350&amp;i=5&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;tudor.ratiu@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;lt;mailto:&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25857350&amp;i=6&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;tudor.ratiu@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Cc: &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25857350&amp;i=7&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ro@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;lt;mailto:&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25857350&amp;i=8&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ro@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Draga domnule Ratiu,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Ma numesc Cosmin Sandu si sunt post-doc la EPFL si am trait sub &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; comunism pana la 17 ani. Atunci nu am putut sa inteleg complicitatea &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; mea la regimul comunist.Acum o inteleg. Din pacate, cei mai multi &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; dintre tineri nu sunt constienti de responsabilitatea lor si a &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; parintilor lor fata de regimul comunist, de lasitatea in care au &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; fost si inca sunt educati.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Poate ar fi util sa ne intalnim cu tinerii romani de la ARO si sa-i &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; invatati aceste realitati!Atentie ARo, este o propunere pt voi!
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Ma bucura foarte mult scrisoarea dumneavoastra si sper ca vorbind si &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; altora despre aceste lucruri sa reusiti sa le schimbati gandirea &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; absurd de nationalista. Aveti aceasta datorie morala fata de cei ce &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; au murit pentru idei ca si cele pe care le exprimati dumneavoastra. &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Ma gandesc ca ar fi extraordinar sa publicati aceste randuri intr-un &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; articol despre Herta Muler. Poate chiar Caminul Romanesc de la &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Geneva ar dori sa-l publice. Ar fi o mare pierdere ca aceste randuri &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ale dumneavoastra sa nu fie cunoscute.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Mi-ar face o deosebita placere sa ma intalnesc cu dumneavoastra la &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; EPFL pt a va cunoaste personal.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Cu consideratie,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Cosmin SANDU
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25857350&amp;i=9&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;tudor.ratiu@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;lt;mailto:&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25857350&amp;i=10&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;tudor.ratiu@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;quot; &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25857350&amp;i=11&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;tudor.ratiu@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;lt;mailto:&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25857350&amp;i=12&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;tudor.ratiu@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; a écrit :
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Nu vreau sa intru in nici o polemica cu nimeni, dar aceasta
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; scrisoare are citeva fapte inexacte si numai de aceea raspund.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 1.) Herta Mueller NU a vorbit prost despre Romania. Dimpotriva! A
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; dedicat una din cartile ei cele mai importante &amp;quot;The land of the green
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; plums&amp;quot; (dau titlul in engleza caci imi dau seama ca putini mai vorbesc
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; germana intre romani) prietenilor ei romani care au suferit sub
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; regimul comunist. Nu numai atit: in interviews pe care le-a dat in
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Germania a insistat asupra acestui fapt si a spus ca era datoria ei
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; morala sa scrie despre cum romanii au suferit sub regimul comunist.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; In plus, intr-un interview major in Germania (pe care l-am ascultat),
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; a insistat cum a dorit sa invete romaneste la virsta
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; de 15 ani cind a ajuns la Timisoara. Mai mult, a declarat ca datorita
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; faptului ca stie romaneste a putut sa scrie mai bine in germana caci o
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; cunoastere profunda a unei alte limbi, si a insistat asupra romanei pe
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; care a caracterizat-o ca o limba cu totul deosebita, &amp;nbsp;a ajutat-o sa
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; vada fiecare fapt dintr-un alt punct de vedere.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Are perfecta dreptate si stiu despre ce vorbeste. Eu sunt
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; quadrilingual si mai vorbesc inca alte doua limbi prost, dar pot sa
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; citesc literatura. Sunt lucruri care le poti spune numai intr-o limba
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; si nu pot fi traduse datorita substraturilor culturale asociate cu
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; anumite expresii. Sa va dau un exemplu clasic: Make my day! (Clint
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Eastwood) este intraductibil. Pentru un american spune volume. Orice
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; traducere pierde 90% din continutul implicit.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Deci Herta Muelle nu a vorbit rau despre Romania. Voi reveni mai jos
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ce a criticat foarte aspru si continua sa o faca.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 2.) Este inexact ca 99% din populatie a suferit. Eu am trait in
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; aceasta perioada, parintii mei au trait mai mult in regimul comunist.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Nu pot sa spun citi au suferit. Au fost multi, asta este sigur. Dar
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; regimul comunist a avut sprijin in Romania si mai are si acum. Este un
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; fapt extrem de rusinos pentru mine personal, ca roman. In general eu
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; refuz sa discut aceasta problema cu orice strain si le aduc aminte ca
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; nationalitatea mea oficiala este cea americana si deci nu am de-a face
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; cu acest subiect. Citi au fost ca familia mea care s-a opus deschis
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; regimului si au pierdut membri? Citi au fost ca majoritatea preotilor
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; greco-catolici care &amp;nbsp;s-au opus si au platit cu viata. Citi au fost ca
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; cei din Oastea Domnului, miscare in biserica ortodoxa, care s-au opus
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; si au fost ucisi in lagare? Oastea Domnului a fost distrusa de
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; biserica ortodoxa comunista. Vorbeste astazi cineva din biserica
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ortodoxa despre ce s-a intimplat cu Oastea Domnului? Stie macar unul
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; din generatia voastra, ortodocsi, ce a fost Oastea Domnului? Eu stiu
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; si nu sunt ortodox. Citi au fost ca majoritatea neoprotestantilor,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; care au avut curajul sa faca zid de rezistenta? Cind preotul ortodox
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Calciu, a fost inchis, am fost eu, &amp;nbsp;parintii mei, fratele meu, care am
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; strins semnaturi in USA pentru eliberarea lui, nu fratii lui ortodocsi
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; (au reactionat dupa ce eu i-am facut de rusine). Ne-am dus la
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; bisericile ortodoxe sa le cerem sprijin si au fost biserici ortodoxe
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; in USA care au refuzat sa ma ajute sa string semnaturi; bineinteles ca
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; bisricile care erau sub arhipescopul Nathaniel de la Grass Lake m-au
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ajutat, dar nu si celelalte. Mai rau, ma intrebau de ce vin la ei caci
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; nu sunt ortodox! Dar nici o biserica catolica sau protestanta nu m-a
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; refuzat! Mai mult, bisericile greco catolice din Midwest au facut mai
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; mult decit ce le cerusem. Am trimis cutii de semnaturi la fiecare
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; membru din Congres si Senat - si parintele Calciu a fost eliberat.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Sunt sigur ca nu am fost eu care a impins bolovanul, dar si eu am fost
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; printre aceia din toata lumea care nu au acceptat situatia. Impreuna
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; foarte mult se poate face. Am infruntat impreuna cu un coleg evreu de
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; la Chisinau o delegatie a bisericii ortodoxe romane care a venit la
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Ann Arbor in 1982 unde eram atunci tinar Assistant Professor si i-am
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; intrebat in public mai multe care nu le conveneau. Am ajutat
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; neoprotestanti din Midwest sa isi scoate familiile ca sa emigreze in
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; USA. I-am invatat ce trebuie sa faca politic ca sa isi scoate rudele
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; si sunt mindru ca pe fiecare pe care l-am ajutat si caruia i-am scris
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; petitii la congresul american si-a scos rudele. Am fost urmarit la
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Berkeley de Securitate. Stiu de cineva de la San Jose care a fost
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; batut si lasat aproape mort pentru ca organiza activitati impotriva
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; guvernului roman in California de Nord.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Herta Mueller spune si astazi ca ii este frica de Securitate. Si o
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; spune des, o scrie de multe ori.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Sprijinul regimului comunist cel mai mare din TOATE tarile din lume,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; inclusiv cele comuniste, a fost in Romania. Dovada? Il citez pe
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Ceausescu: Romania are cel mai mare partid comunist din toate tarile
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ca procentaj al populatiei. Acesta este un fapt care poate fi
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; verificat. Cind cineva era invitat sa intre in partid, accepta. Mai
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; rau, se rugau sa fie primiti. Cind eu am refuzat, m-au crezut nebun si
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; am fost ridicat de Securitate. Profesori de-ai mei incercau sa imi
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; faca greutati si eram ridicat de Securitate in timpul cursurilor la
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Universitatea Timisoara. Stiu si cine dintre profesorii mei ma
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; denuntau. Eram singurul care spunea deschis si scria ca in Romania nu
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; se respecta constitutia scrisa sub regimul comunist! Cite dintre
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; cunostiintele voastre cereau audienta la biroul comitetului central ca
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; sa se plinga oficial de incalcarea legilor comuniste? Citi dintre
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; oamenii pe care ii cunoasteti s-au dus la UNESCO, la Bucuresti, sa
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ceara ancheta asupra discriminarii politice in invatamint (nu te
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; puteai inscrie la doctorat fara aprobarea partidului, de exemplu - eu
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; nu am avut voie sa mai studiez in Romania). Citi oameni cunoasteti
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; care au scris plingeri oficiale la ONU? Asta este rezistenta, nu vorbe
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; goale! &amp;quot;Put your money where your mouth is&amp;quot; cum se spune in America.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Ca pretemul meu din copilarie care avea tata roman si mama germana si
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; vorbea pe scena teatrului german impotriva guvernului; a fost omorit.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; In familia mea am fost multi care am facut asta si cunosc alte familii
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; unde asta era ceva normal. Daca numai 10 la suta din populatia
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Romaniei ar fi facut jumatate din ceea ce faceam noi, libertatea
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; personala ar fi fost mult mai mare. Dar asta nu a fost cazul. Deci
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; sprijinul direct si implicit al populatiei fata de regim era imens. Se
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; plingeau ca nu este nimic in magazin, ca le era foame, ca nu pot
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; calatorii, etc, dar erau membri de partid sau colaborau cu
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; securitatea, se duceau la sedinte de partid si de sindicat. Eu nu m-am
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; dus la asemenea sedinte si spuneam de ce - ca este inutil ca nu am
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; nimic de spus si ca partidul a decis si noi trebuie sa tacem; citam
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; din Marx, Lenin si Ceausescu ca sa imi justific atitudinea si imi
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; bateam joc de ei in public caci stiam mai mult marxism decit ei -
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; trebuie sa iti cunosti foarte bine dusmanul daca vrei sa
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; supravietuiesti. Cei de la partid erau inebuniti cu mine si ma evitau
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; in final. Altii ziceau &amp;quot;ce-i de facut?&amp;quot; Asta nu este o atitudine.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Fiecare popor isi merita guvernul pe care il are. Ei si-l fac.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Guvernul unei tari este oglinda aspiratilor poporului respectiv. Daca
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; este ocupatie straina, este altceva. Dar, dupa cum imi aduc aminte, nu
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; erau trupe sovietice in Romania inca din anii 60! Deci Romania putea
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; sa fi facut ceva ca Yugoslavia, la umbra URSS, dar nu a facut-o. De
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ce? Pentru ca nu era sprijin in populatie, rezistenta era facuta de un
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; grup foarte mic din populatia totala - si asta o stiu din experienta
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; proprie. Este extrem de trist ceea ce spun, dar este adevarat.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Nu ma credeti? Admirati va rog regimurile libere din est. De ce unele
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; tari sunt mai civillizate decit altele. Au aceeasi conditie initiala,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; cum se spune in matematica. Cazul cel mai flagrant este Rusia. Poporul
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; rus vrea sa aiba KGB la guvern. Il iubesc pe Putin si KGBul. Am fost
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; in Rusia si am vazut asta - am ramas trasnit. Rusii isi merita
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; guvernul pe care il au. Guvernul actual al Rusiei este imaginea
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; aspiratiilor si capacitatii poporului rus - va las pe fiecare sa traga
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; concluzia logica asupra Romaniei.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Sa va dau un alt exemplu, de astazi, puteti sa verificati. Nu cred ca
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ati stiut ca in Muntii Apuseni a fost rezistenta impotriva guvernului,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; foarte indelungata. Va dau si zona: in jurul lui Buru si a Lupsei,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; adinc in Apuseni. Aveam 4 ani cind am vazut o executie in curtea
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Sfatului Popular la Timisoara caci locuiam la etajul 3 si vedeam in
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; curte de sus. Asta este in plin centru, linga Catedrala. Executau un
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; taran partizan din muntii Banatului. Era 1954! Acesti oameni rezistau
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; cu arma in mina de 9 ani! Mergeti astazi in acea zona in Apuseni si
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; intrebati ce se stie despre partizani. Stiti care este raspunsul,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; astazi, caci eu am intrebat? Ca erau niste banditi pe care armata si
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; militia i-a omorit. Asta merita cei care s-au opus! Nici macar nu
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; exista o amintire a cosatenilor. Este deprimant!
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Daca a fost mare opozitie la regimul comunist, de ce lumea traversa
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; strada cind treceam ca sa nu ma salute? Voi nu stiti ce inseamna sa
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; traiesti singur, fara nimeni. La noi, nimeni nu intra in casa. Eram
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; leprosi. Eu nici nu stiam ce inseamna sa ai oaspeti sau sa te duci la
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; cineva in vizita. Sau cunosteam un copil cu care m jucam si deodata
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; aflu ca tatal lui s-a spinzurat datorita interogarilor. Astazi toti au
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; fost mari eroi care s-au opus. Dupa ce am fost expulzat, timp de 15
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ani nici o singura persoana din Romania, cu exceptia unui coleg de
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; facultate, nu a tinut legatura cu mine. Dupa revolutie deoadata am
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; avut foarte multi prieteni vechi.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Daca a fost opozitie serioasa in Romania, cum se explica libertatea
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; mai mare in Polonia, Ungaria, Cehoslovacia decit in Romania cu toate
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ca aceste tari aveau trupe sovietice stationate si Romania nu avea?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Polonia sub Jaruzelski cu tancuri sovietice avea mai mari libertati
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; personale decit Romania! Romanii au suferit mult? Comparat cu Polonia
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; a fost bine. Stiti citi au fost exterminati in Polonia? Aproape 1.6
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; milioane! Uitati-va la
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/20TH.HTM&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/20TH.HTM&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Romania nici nu intra pe listele principale ale marilor &amp;quot;democide&amp;quot;. Si
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; totusi, polonezii s-au opus regimului in mod sistematic, indiferent de
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; citi morti au avut. Nu au putut sa ii omoare pe toti!
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 3.) Romania de astazi este inca condusa de foste cadre de partid si de
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; securitate. Acesta este un fapt. Sunt incintat ca am vazut scris ca
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Romania suntem noi&amp;quot;. Asta imi da sperante. Deci daca voi, acesti
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; tineri, sunteti Romania, sa aveti o atitudine si sa nu alegeti fosti
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; membri de partid! O faceti? Va intereseaza pe cine alegeti? Mergeti la
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; vot? Sper ca da.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; In Romania de astazi o declaratie ca regimul comunist a fost la fel de
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; criminal ca cel fascist NU A FOST VOTATA in parlament. Mai vreti
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; dovada ca acest regim comunist mai este si astazi sprijinit? Va invit
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; la Hanoi, la muzeul etnografic care are jumatatea spatiului dedicat
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;quot;ororilor regimului comunist&amp;quot;. Eu am fost la acest muzeu si este
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ingrozitor! Nu am putut iesi din el timp de 6 ore - eram extrem de
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; emotionat si trebuia sa ma odihnesc ca sa mai pot vedea. Unde este un
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; asemenea muzeu in Europa de Est? Nici macar la Berlin! Nu vreau sa il
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; descriu ca te atinge foarte adinc. Ori, Vietnamul este o tara
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; comunista, oficial! Rusine tuturor tarilor ex-comuniste cu amnezie
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; totala si iresponsabilitate morala si sociala! Au de invatat de la
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Vietnam.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Au fost deschise arhivele securitatii in Romania? Nici vorba! Doar
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; cind vor sa se scape de unul apar dosare. Eu habar nu am cine conduce
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Romania. Dar pot sa va spun ca am refuzat sa ma duc la Bucuresti sa
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; iau un mare premiu national numai pentru ca ar fi trebuit sa dau mina
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; cu Iliescu. Dupa 8-9 luni am fost la Ambasada Romaniei, impreuna cu un
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; coleg mai batrin, Cornelui Constantinescu (care a facut lagar politic
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; in Romania si este pensionat de la ETHZ) sa ne ridicam premiile. Am
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; fost insotit, bineinteles, de un reprezentant al sectiei culturale a
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ambasadei USA de la Berna - am insistat asupra acestui fapt deoarece
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; sunt american si ma duceam la o ambasada straina pentru o activitate
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; care era legata de acea tara; el a fost oficial invitat de ambasada
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; romana la aceast eveniment deoarece un american a fost onorat de
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; guvernul roman.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 4.) Romania nu a anulat pina astazi sentintele impotriva celor fugiti.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Ati stiut asta? Sunt sigur ca nu. Pe mine asta nu ma afecteaza caci eu
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; nu sunt fugit ci expulzat. Am fost ridicat la 2 dimineata din pat,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; inchis la Securitate, mi s-a dat un pasaport si mi s-a spus sa prasesc
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; tara in 48 de ore si ca daca ma intorc voi fi impuscat; sa fiu atent
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ce fac in apus daca vreau sa supravietuiesc. Stiu ca exista o sentinta
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; impotriva mea in Romania datorita expulzarii. Nu stiu ce spune, n-am
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; vazut-o nici o data, dar stiu altii care au fost in situatia mea si
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; care au aflat despre asta. Avind in vedere ca ma cheama Ratiu, nu este
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; nici un dubiu ca exista o sentinta mai grava impotriva mea. Deci,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; oficial, si astazi sunt criminal in Romania. Asta are consecinte. Ma
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; duc extrem de rar in Romania si cind ma duc, este pe timp foarte de
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; scurt (3-4 zile). Ma duc in general la conferinte cind sunt inconjurat
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; de colegi straini sau cu unul din copiii mei (nascuti in USA, care
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; sunt majori) sau cu nevasta mea care este naturalizata americana dar
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; nu este din Romania. Nici o data nu ma duc singur! Am un coleg care nu
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; a intrat in Romania din 1978. Este membru al academiei de stiinte USA
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; si a luat cea mai mare dsitinctie stiintifica americana: The
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Presidential Medal of Honor data de Presedintele USA personal la Casa
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Alba. Dar el nu intra in Romania caci este fugit si deci criminal inca
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; si astazi in Romania. Asta este atitudinea Romaniei fata de diaspora!
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Acest matematician este probabil cel mai mare om de stiinta roman la
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ora actuala. In orice caz este cel mai decorat.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Cum am spus in scrisoarea mea trecuta, acest grup de oameni sunt
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; tinuti si astazi la distanta si Romania este foarte bucuroasa daca nu
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; apar in tara.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; M-am interesat, in principiu, daca este posibil ca copiii mei sa ia
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; cetatenie romana. Este imposibil! Sau la fel de posibil ca lui
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Mohammed Abdul sau lui Zexiang Wu. As fi vrut sa ii leg de tara macar
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; in principiu datorita numelui care il poarta, dar nu se poate. Deci si
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; urmasii acestor oameni sunt tinuti departe de tara. Contrastati asta
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; cu ce se intimpla in alte tari. De exemplu daca cineva poate demonstra
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ca are un bunic italian, spaniol, irlandez sau ungur, poate cere
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; cetatenia acestor tari oriunde ar fi in lume (despre aceste tari stiu
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; precis caci am cunostiinte care au facut asta). Nici nu mai vorbesc de
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Germania sau Israel cu &amp;quot;Law of Return&amp;quot;.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Sa ne intoarcem la Herta Mueller. Aceste aspecte din Romania sunt cele
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; criticate de ea &amp;nbsp;si are mare dreptate. In sfirsit cineva care spune
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; aceste lucruri este ascultat, caci pe mine nu ma asculta nimeni
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; deoarece sunt matematician si deci nu am nici un ascendent literar,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; politic, sau sociologic. Despre aceste lucruri vorbeste foarte urit -
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; cum ar putea vorbi altfel? De fapt, eu ma mir ca Herta Mueller nu
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; vorbeste si mai urit! Eu ii pot da material mai rau decit ceea ce
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; scrie, si nu sunt singurul. O pot pune in legatura cu multi oameni
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; care ii pot povesti lucruri care fac sa para romanele ei pline de
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; optimism! Asta este partea Romaniei pe care ea o critica aspru.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Deci daca Romania sunteti voi, aceasta generatie tinara, aveti o mare
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; responsabilitate caci fara sa vreti, purtati rusinea generatiei
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; anterioare. Daca doriti ca Romania sa fie luata in serios si sa nu se
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; mai vorbeasca urit de ea, trebuie sa aveti constiinta civica si
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; responsabilitate morala. Puteti schimba lucrurile. Tara este a
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; voastra, nu a mea, aveti tot viitorul in fata, nu ca mine. Deci fiti
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; responsabili politic. Nu are nici o importanta cu ce partid votati,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; dar votati oameni seriosi, oameni care nu au colaborat cu regimul
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; comunist. Sper ca dintre voi vor fi in citiva ani reprezentaniti in
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; parlament si in guvern. Daca Romania sunteti voi, fiti demni de
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; aceasta chemare, participati la conducerea tarii, fiecare cum puteti
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; si cum stiti sa o faceti.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Fiecare la locul lui poate avea o atitudine responsabila si daca asta
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; reusiti sa o extindeti la multi oameni faceti minuni. Voi sunteti
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; aceia care trebuie sa schimbati lucrurile. Nimeni nu vine din exterior
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; sa va curete casa.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Este ultima scrisoare la care mai raspund. Am enorm de lucru, am prea
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; multi doctoranzi si postdocs, prea multe proiecte de cercetare cu
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; colegi pretutindeni in lume ca sa ma pot ocupa de altceva decit de
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; lucru. Va doresc numai bine si sper sa mai aud de voi in viitor numai
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; lucruri bune.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Tudor Ratiu
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-25856408</id>
	<title>OVR si o doza de recunostinta</title>
	<published>2009-10-12T07:04:19Z</published>
	<updated>2009-10-12T07:04:19Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Paul-391</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html"> &lt;br&gt;          Dragi prieteni,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Trebuie sa va scriu un mesaj pentru a trimite un document&lt;br&gt;al &amp;#39;Operation Villages Roumains&amp;#39; - este un document care &lt;br&gt;marcheaza aniversarea a 20 de ani si contine mai multe parti, &lt;br&gt;
va rog sa imi cereti continuarea, daca va intereseaza. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As vrea sa adaug cateva observatii privind dialogul care se&lt;br&gt;desfasoara:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Imi pare ca a vorbi despre lasitate si lipsa de combativitate&lt;br&gt;
in fata comunismului in Romania este prea usor astazi, &lt;br&gt;din pozitia in care ne aflam.&lt;br&gt;Cateodata este o dovada de mai mult curaj sa ramai langa&lt;br&gt;unchi, bunici, nepoti, sa induri si sa astepti, decat sa te &lt;br&gt;sinucizi intr-un sacrificiu simbolic sau sa parasesti tara in &lt;br&gt;


semn de protest.&lt;br&gt;Sunt dintr-o familie din care a facut parte si Sandu Tudor &lt;br&gt;(&amp;#39;Rugul Aprins&amp;#39;). Cunoscand aceasta forma de reactie la &lt;br&gt;comunism, cred ca am dreptul sa vorbesc si despre o alta &lt;br&gt;forma de rezistenta, despre nobletea celor care au trecut linistiti &lt;br&gt;
de la petrecerile in palate princiare la cozile interminabile si la &lt;br&gt;inghetatul polar, pentru a fi unii cu altii, pentru a ne creste pe noi.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Stiu de ce se uita unii lung la pasapoartele straine, nu din &lt;br&gt;vreo discriminare fata de minoritati (din nou, vorbesc in cunostinta&lt;br&gt;


de cauza, ca membru al comunitatii grecesti), ci din cauza&lt;br&gt;cicatricilor ramase tocmai de la comunisti. Privirea lor spune &amp;#39;tu nu ai&lt;br&gt;mancat salam cu soia&amp;#39;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ar fi absurd sa invinovatim poporul roman de comunism. Ar fi ca si cum i-am &lt;br&gt;
invinovati pe toti germanii pentru Hitler. Mai rau, chiar, pentru ca inainte de sosirea&lt;br&gt;rusilor PC totaliza cateva mii de membri si de zece ori mai multi paduchi.&lt;br&gt;Populatia Romaniei a format un organism complex care a realizat o retea de solidaritate &lt;br&gt;
cu scopul conservarii si a respirat amplu la Revolutie, atunci cand presiunea externa &lt;br&gt;a permis o eliberare. &lt;br&gt;Motivul pentru care erau mai multi membri in partidul comunist este &lt;br&gt;strict geografic: presiunea a variat invers proportional cu distanta fata&lt;br&gt;
de marele prieten de la est. Intensitatea miscarii revolutionare a demonstrat&lt;br&gt;ca exista o apasare cu mult superioara celei din alte tari.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Inainte de a ne auto-flagela, sa nu uitam sa fim recunoscatori celor care &lt;br&gt;
au ramas, au suportat, si nu au uitat nici macar datoria discretiei.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;La finele acestei pledoarii pe care o datoram tuturor celor pe care ii cunosc (100 %),&lt;br&gt;
care au suferit cumplit sub comunisti, si care nu au gasit, iata, metode pentru a&lt;br&gt;ii matura mai devreme - imi dau seama ca acum noi putem gasi acum niste solutii mult&lt;br&gt;mai inteligente - trebuie sa spun ca intr-adevar societatea ar trebui sa se indrepte &lt;br&gt;

mai repede, ca inertia este revoltatoare, ca guvernul si functionarimea sunt inca &lt;br&gt;ocupate in prea mare proportie de cei care nu au interesul sa se miste.&lt;br&gt;Si le multumesc celor care au facut ceva pentru a misca lucrurile.&lt;br&gt;

&lt;br&gt;Premiul Nobel recunoaste implicit calitatea unei scoli din Romania si, sper, &lt;br&gt;va incuraja reformarea unor structuri, in aceasi tara.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cu bine,&lt;br&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#888888&quot;&gt;         Paul Vasos&lt;/font&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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Draga domnule Ratiu,&lt;br&gt;
Ma numesc Cosmin Sandu si sunt post-doc la EPFL si am trait sub
comunism pana la 17 ani. Atunci nu am putut sa inteleg complicitatea
mea la regimul comunist.Acum o inteleg. Din pacate, cei mai multi
dintre tineri nu sunt constienti de responsabilitatea lor si a
parintilor lor fata de regimul comunist, de lasitatea in care au fost
si inca sunt educati.&lt;br&gt;
Poate ar fi util sa ne intalnim cu tinerii romani de la ARO si sa-i
invatati aceste realitati!Atentie ARo, este o propunere pt voi!&lt;br&gt;
Ma bucura foarte mult scrisoarea dumneavoastra si sper ca vorbind si
altora despre aceste lucruri sa reusiti sa le schimbati gandirea absurd
de nationalista. Aveti aceasta datorie morala fata de cei ce au murit
pentru idei ca si cele pe care le exprimati dumneavoastra. Ma gandesc
ca ar fi extraordinar sa publicati aceste randuri intr-un articol
despre Herta Muler. Poate chiar Caminul Romanesc de la Geneva ar dori
sa-l publice. Ar fi o mare pierdere ca aceste randuri ale dumneavoastra
sa nu fie cunoscute.&lt;br&gt;

Mi-ar face o deosebita placere sa ma intalnesc cu dumneavoastra la EPFL pt a va cunoaste personal.&lt;br&gt;
Cu consideratie,&lt;br&gt;
Cosmin SANDU&lt;br&gt;
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&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25856408&amp;i=4&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;tudor.ratiu@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25856408&amp;i=5&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;tudor.ratiu@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; a écrit :&lt;br&gt;
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Nu vreau sa intru in nici o polemica cu nimeni, dar aceasta&lt;br&gt;
scrisoare are citeva fapte inexacte si numai de aceea raspund.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
1.) Herta Mueller NU a vorbit prost despre Romania. Dimpotriva! A&lt;br&gt;
dedicat una din cartile ei cele mai importante &amp;quot;The land of the green&lt;br&gt;
plums&amp;quot; (dau titlul in engleza caci imi dau seama ca putini mai vorbesc&lt;br&gt;
germana intre romani) prietenilor ei romani care au suferit sub&lt;br&gt;
regimul comunist. Nu numai atit: in interviews pe care le-a dat in&lt;br&gt;
Germania a insistat asupra acestui fapt si a spus ca era datoria ei&lt;br&gt;
morala sa scrie despre cum romanii au suferit sub regimul comunist.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
In plus, intr-un interview major in Germania (pe care l-am ascultat),&lt;br&gt;
a insistat cum a dorit sa invete romaneste la virsta&lt;br&gt;
de 15 ani cind a ajuns la Timisoara. Mai mult, a declarat ca datorita&lt;br&gt;
faptului ca stie romaneste a putut sa scrie mai bine in germana caci o&lt;br&gt;
cunoastere profunda a unei alte limbi, si a insistat asupra romanei pe&lt;br&gt;
care a caracterizat-o ca o limba cu totul deosebita,  a ajutat-o sa&lt;br&gt;
vada fiecare fapt dintr-un alt punct de vedere.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Are perfecta dreptate si stiu despre ce vorbeste. Eu sunt&lt;br&gt;
quadrilingual si mai vorbesc inca alte doua limbi prost, dar pot sa&lt;br&gt;
citesc literatura. Sunt lucruri care le poti spune numai intr-o limba&lt;br&gt;
si nu pot fi traduse datorita substraturilor culturale asociate cu&lt;br&gt;
anumite expresii. Sa va dau un exemplu clasic: Make my day! (Clint&lt;br&gt;
Eastwood) este intraductibil. Pentru un american spune volume. Orice&lt;br&gt;
traducere pierde 90% din continutul implicit.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Deci Herta Muelle nu a vorbit rau despre Romania. Voi reveni mai jos&lt;br&gt;
ce a criticat foarte aspru si continua sa o faca.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
2.) Este inexact ca 99% din populatie a suferit. Eu am trait in&lt;br&gt;
aceasta perioada, parintii mei au trait mai mult in regimul comunist.&lt;br&gt;
Nu pot sa spun citi au suferit. Au fost multi, asta este sigur. Dar&lt;br&gt;
regimul comunist a avut sprijin in Romania si mai are si acum. Este un&lt;br&gt;
fapt extrem de rusinos pentru mine personal, ca roman. In general eu&lt;br&gt;
refuz sa discut aceasta problema cu orice strain si le aduc aminte ca&lt;br&gt;
nationalitatea mea oficiala este cea americana si deci nu am de-a face&lt;br&gt;
cu acest subiect. Citi au fost ca familia mea care s-a opus deschis&lt;br&gt;
regimului si au pierdut membri? Citi au fost ca majoritatea preotilor&lt;br&gt;
greco-catolici care  s-au opus si au platit cu viata. Citi au fost ca&lt;br&gt;
cei din Oastea Domnului, miscare in biserica ortodoxa, care s-au opus&lt;br&gt;
si au fost ucisi in lagare? Oastea Domnului a fost distrusa de&lt;br&gt;
biserica ortodoxa comunista. Vorbeste astazi cineva din biserica&lt;br&gt;
ortodoxa despre ce s-a intimplat cu Oastea Domnului? Stie macar unul&lt;br&gt;
din generatia voastra, ortodocsi, ce a fost Oastea Domnului? Eu stiu&lt;br&gt;
si nu sunt ortodox. Citi au fost ca majoritatea neoprotestantilor,&lt;br&gt;
care au avut curajul sa faca zid de rezistenta? Cind preotul ortodox&lt;br&gt;
Calciu, a fost inchis, am fost eu,  parintii mei, fratele meu, care am&lt;br&gt;
strins semnaturi in USA pentru eliberarea lui, nu fratii lui ortodocsi&lt;br&gt;
(au reactionat dupa ce eu i-am facut de rusine). Ne-am dus la&lt;br&gt;
bisericile ortodoxe sa le cerem sprijin si au fost biserici ortodoxe&lt;br&gt;
in USA care au refuzat sa ma ajute sa string semnaturi; bineinteles ca&lt;br&gt;
bisricile care erau sub arhipescopul Nathaniel de la Grass Lake m-au&lt;br&gt;
ajutat, dar nu si celelalte. Mai rau, ma intrebau de ce vin la ei caci&lt;br&gt;
nu sunt ortodox! Dar nici o biserica catolica sau protestanta nu m-a&lt;br&gt;
refuzat! Mai mult, bisericile greco catolice din Midwest au facut mai&lt;br&gt;
mult decit ce le cerusem. Am trimis cutii de semnaturi la fiecare&lt;br&gt;
membru din Congres si Senat - si parintele Calciu a fost eliberat.&lt;br&gt;
Sunt sigur ca nu am fost eu care a impins bolovanul, dar si eu am fost&lt;br&gt;
printre aceia din toata lumea care nu au acceptat situatia. Impreuna&lt;br&gt;
foarte mult se poate face. Am infruntat impreuna cu un coleg evreu de&lt;br&gt;
la Chisinau o delegatie a bisericii ortodoxe romane care a venit la&lt;br&gt;
Ann Arbor in 1982 unde eram atunci tinar Assistant Professor si i-am&lt;br&gt;
intrebat in public mai multe care nu le conveneau. Am ajutat&lt;br&gt;
neoprotestanti din Midwest sa isi scoate familiile ca sa emigreze in&lt;br&gt;
USA. I-am invatat ce trebuie sa faca politic ca sa isi scoate rudele&lt;br&gt;
si sunt mindru ca pe fiecare pe care l-am ajutat si caruia i-am scris&lt;br&gt;
petitii la congresul american si-a scos rudele. Am fost urmarit la&lt;br&gt;
Berkeley de Securitate. Stiu de cineva de la San Jose care a fost&lt;br&gt;
batut si lasat aproape mort pentru ca organiza activitati impotriva&lt;br&gt;
guvernului roman in California de Nord.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Herta Mueller spune si astazi ca ii este frica de Securitate. Si o&lt;br&gt;
spune des, o scrie de multe ori.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Sprijinul regimului comunist cel mai mare din TOATE tarile din lume,&lt;br&gt;
inclusiv cele comuniste, a fost in Romania. Dovada? Il citez pe&lt;br&gt;
Ceausescu: Romania are cel mai mare partid comunist din toate tarile&lt;br&gt;
ca procentaj al populatiei. Acesta este un fapt care poate fi&lt;br&gt;
verificat. Cind cineva era invitat sa intre in partid, accepta. Mai&lt;br&gt;
rau, se rugau sa fie primiti. Cind eu am refuzat, m-au crezut nebun si&lt;br&gt;
am fost ridicat de Securitate. Profesori de-ai mei incercau sa imi&lt;br&gt;
faca greutati si eram ridicat de Securitate in timpul cursurilor la&lt;br&gt;
Universitatea Timisoara. Stiu si cine dintre profesorii mei ma&lt;br&gt;
denuntau. Eram singurul care spunea deschis si scria ca in Romania nu&lt;br&gt;
se respecta constitutia scrisa sub regimul comunist! Cite dintre&lt;br&gt;
cunostiintele voastre cereau audienta la biroul comitetului central ca&lt;br&gt;
sa se plinga oficial de incalcarea legilor comuniste? Citi dintre&lt;br&gt;
oamenii pe care ii cunoasteti s-au dus la UNESCO, la Bucuresti, sa&lt;br&gt;
ceara ancheta asupra discriminarii politice in invatamint (nu te&lt;br&gt;
puteai inscrie la doctorat fara aprobarea partidului, de exemplu - eu&lt;br&gt;
nu am avut voie sa mai studiez in Romania). Citi oameni cunoasteti&lt;br&gt;
care au scris plingeri oficiale la ONU? Asta este rezistenta, nu vorbe&lt;br&gt;
goale! &amp;quot;Put your money where your mouth is&amp;quot; cum se spune in America.&lt;br&gt;
Ca pretemul meu din copilarie care avea tata roman si mama germana si&lt;br&gt;
vorbea pe scena teatrului german impotriva guvernului; a fost omorit.&lt;br&gt;
In familia mea am fost multi care am facut asta si cunosc alte familii&lt;br&gt;
unde asta era ceva normal. Daca numai 10 la suta din populatia&lt;br&gt;
Romaniei ar fi facut jumatate din ceea ce faceam noi, libertatea&lt;br&gt;
personala ar fi fost mult mai mare. Dar asta nu a fost cazul. Deci&lt;br&gt;
sprijinul direct si implicit al populatiei fata de regim era imens. Se&lt;br&gt;
plingeau ca nu este nimic in magazin, ca le era foame, ca nu pot&lt;br&gt;
calatorii, etc, dar erau membri de partid sau colaborau cu&lt;br&gt;
securitatea, se duceau la sedinte de partid si de sindicat. Eu nu m-am&lt;br&gt;
dus la asemenea sedinte si spuneam de ce - ca este inutil ca nu am&lt;br&gt;
nimic de spus si ca partidul a decis si noi trebuie sa tacem; citam&lt;br&gt;
din Marx, Lenin si Ceausescu ca sa imi justific atitudinea si imi&lt;br&gt;
bateam joc de ei in public caci stiam mai mult marxism decit ei -&lt;br&gt;
trebuie sa iti cunosti foarte bine dusmanul daca vrei sa&lt;br&gt;
supravietuiesti. Cei de la partid erau inebuniti cu mine si ma evitau&lt;br&gt;
in final. Altii ziceau &amp;quot;ce-i de facut?&amp;quot; Asta nu este o atitudine.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Fiecare popor isi merita guvernul pe care il are. Ei si-l fac.&lt;br&gt;
Guvernul unei tari este oglinda aspiratilor poporului respectiv. Daca&lt;br&gt;
este ocupatie straina, este altceva. Dar, dupa cum imi aduc aminte, nu&lt;br&gt;
erau trupe sovietice in Romania inca din anii 60! Deci Romania putea&lt;br&gt;
sa fi facut ceva ca Yugoslavia, la umbra URSS, dar nu a facut-o. De&lt;br&gt;
ce? Pentru ca nu era sprijin in populatie, rezistenta era facuta de un&lt;br&gt;
grup foarte mic din populatia totala - si asta o stiu din experienta&lt;br&gt;
proprie. Este extrem de trist ceea ce spun, dar este adevarat.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Nu ma credeti? Admirati va rog regimurile libere din est. De ce unele&lt;br&gt;
tari sunt mai civillizate decit altele. Au aceeasi conditie initiala,&lt;br&gt;
cum se spune in matematica. Cazul cel mai flagrant este Rusia. Poporul&lt;br&gt;
rus vrea sa aiba KGB la guvern. Il iubesc pe Putin si KGBul. Am fost&lt;br&gt;
in Rusia si am vazut asta - am ramas trasnit. Rusii isi merita&lt;br&gt;
guvernul pe care il au. Guvernul actual al Rusiei este imaginea&lt;br&gt;
aspiratiilor si capacitatii poporului rus - va las pe fiecare sa traga&lt;br&gt;
concluzia logica asupra Romaniei.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Sa va dau un alt exemplu, de astazi, puteti sa verificati. Nu cred ca&lt;br&gt;
ati stiut ca in Muntii Apuseni a fost rezistenta impotriva guvernului,&lt;br&gt;
foarte indelungata. Va dau si zona: in jurul lui Buru si a Lupsei,&lt;br&gt;
adinc in Apuseni. Aveam 4 ani cind am vazut o executie in curtea&lt;br&gt;
Sfatului Popular la Timisoara caci locuiam la etajul 3 si vedeam in&lt;br&gt;
curte de sus. Asta este in plin centru, linga Catedrala. Executau un&lt;br&gt;
taran partizan din muntii Banatului. Era 1954! Acesti oameni rezistau&lt;br&gt;
cu arma in mina de 9 ani! Mergeti astazi in acea zona in Apuseni si&lt;br&gt;
intrebati ce se stie despre partizani. Stiti care este raspunsul,&lt;br&gt;
astazi, caci eu am intrebat? Ca erau niste banditi pe care armata si&lt;br&gt;
militia i-a omorit. Asta merita cei care s-au opus! Nici macar nu&lt;br&gt;
exista o amintire a cosatenilor. Este deprimant!&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Daca a fost mare opozitie la regimul comunist, de ce lumea traversa&lt;br&gt;
strada cind treceam ca sa nu ma salute? Voi nu stiti ce inseamna sa&lt;br&gt;
traiesti singur, fara nimeni. La noi, nimeni nu intra in casa. Eram&lt;br&gt;
leprosi. Eu nici nu stiam ce inseamna sa ai oaspeti sau sa te duci la&lt;br&gt;
cineva in vizita. Sau cunosteam un copil cu care m jucam si deodata&lt;br&gt;
aflu ca tatal lui s-a spinzurat datorita interogarilor. Astazi toti au&lt;br&gt;
fost mari eroi care s-au opus. Dupa ce am fost expulzat, timp de 15&lt;br&gt;
ani nici o singura persoana din Romania, cu exceptia unui coleg de&lt;br&gt;
facultate, nu a tinut legatura cu mine. Dupa revolutie deoadata am&lt;br&gt;
avut foarte multi prieteni vechi.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Daca a fost opozitie serioasa in Romania, cum se explica libertatea&lt;br&gt;
mai mare in Polonia, Ungaria, Cehoslovacia decit in Romania cu toate&lt;br&gt;
ca aceste tari aveau trupe sovietice stationate si Romania nu avea?&lt;br&gt;
Polonia sub Jaruzelski cu tancuri sovietice avea mai mari libertati&lt;br&gt;
personale decit Romania! Romanii au suferit mult? Comparat cu Polonia&lt;br&gt;
a fost bine. Stiti citi au fost exterminati in Polonia? Aproape 1.6&lt;br&gt;
milioane! Uitati-va la&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;br&gt;
Romania nici nu intra pe listele principale ale marilor &amp;quot;democide&amp;quot;. Si&lt;br&gt;
totusi, polonezii s-au opus regimului in mod sistematic, indiferent de&lt;br&gt;
citi morti au avut. Nu au putut sa ii omoare pe toti!&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
3.) Romania de astazi este inca condusa de foste cadre de partid si de&lt;br&gt;
securitate. Acesta este un fapt. Sunt incintat ca am vazut scris ca&lt;br&gt;
&amp;quot;Romania suntem noi&amp;quot;. Asta imi da sperante. Deci daca voi, acesti&lt;br&gt;
tineri, sunteti Romania, sa aveti o atitudine si sa nu alegeti fosti&lt;br&gt;
membri de partid! O faceti? Va intereseaza pe cine alegeti? Mergeti la&lt;br&gt;
vot? Sper ca da.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
In Romania de astazi o declaratie ca regimul comunist a fost la fel de&lt;br&gt;
criminal ca cel fascist NU A FOST VOTATA in parlament. Mai vreti&lt;br&gt;
dovada ca acest regim comunist mai este si astazi sprijinit? Va invit&lt;br&gt;
la Hanoi, la muzeul etnografic care are jumatatea spatiului dedicat&lt;br&gt;
&amp;quot;ororilor regimului comunist&amp;quot;. Eu am fost la acest muzeu si este&lt;br&gt;
ingrozitor! Nu am putut iesi din el timp de 6 ore - eram extrem de&lt;br&gt;
emotionat si trebuia sa ma odihnesc ca sa mai pot vedea. Unde este un&lt;br&gt;
asemenea muzeu in Europa de Est? Nici macar la Berlin! Nu vreau sa il&lt;br&gt;
descriu ca te atinge foarte adinc. Ori, Vietnamul este o tara&lt;br&gt;
comunista, oficial! Rusine tuturor tarilor ex-comuniste cu amnezie&lt;br&gt;
totala si iresponsabilitate morala si sociala! Au de invatat de la&lt;br&gt;
Vietnam.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Au fost deschise arhivele securitatii in Romania? Nici vorba! Doar&lt;br&gt;
cind vor sa se scape de unul apar dosare. Eu habar nu am cine conduce&lt;br&gt;
Romania. Dar pot sa va spun ca am refuzat sa ma duc la Bucuresti sa&lt;br&gt;
iau un mare premiu national numai pentru ca ar fi trebuit sa dau mina&lt;br&gt;
cu Iliescu. Dupa 8-9 luni am fost la Ambasada Romaniei, impreuna cu un&lt;br&gt;
coleg mai batrin, Cornelui Constantinescu (care a facut lagar politic&lt;br&gt;
in Romania si este pensionat de la ETHZ) sa ne ridicam premiile. Am&lt;br&gt;
fost insotit, bineinteles, de un reprezentant al sectiei culturale a&lt;br&gt;
ambasadei USA de la Berna - am insistat asupra acestui fapt deoarece&lt;br&gt;
sunt american si ma duceam la o ambasada straina pentru o activitate&lt;br&gt;
care era legata de acea tara; el a fost oficial invitat de ambasada&lt;br&gt;
romana la aceast eveniment deoarece un american a fost onorat de&lt;br&gt;
guvernul roman.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
4.) Romania nu a anulat pina astazi sentintele impotriva celor fugiti.&lt;br&gt;
Ati stiut asta? Sunt sigur ca nu. Pe mine asta nu ma afecteaza caci eu&lt;br&gt;
nu sunt fugit ci expulzat. Am fost ridicat la 2 dimineata din pat,&lt;br&gt;
inchis la Securitate, mi s-a dat un pasaport si mi s-a spus sa prasesc&lt;br&gt;
tara in 48 de ore si ca daca ma intorc voi fi impuscat; sa fiu atent&lt;br&gt;
ce fac in apus daca vreau sa supravietuiesc. Stiu ca exista o sentinta&lt;br&gt;
impotriva mea in Romania datorita expulzarii. Nu stiu ce spune, n-am&lt;br&gt;
vazut-o nici o data, dar stiu altii care au fost in situatia mea si&lt;br&gt;
care au aflat despre asta. Avind in vedere ca ma cheama Ratiu, nu este&lt;br&gt;
nici un dubiu ca exista o sentinta mai grava impotriva mea. Deci,&lt;br&gt;
oficial, si astazi sunt criminal in Romania. Asta are consecinte. Ma&lt;br&gt;
duc extrem de rar in Romania si cind ma duc, este pe timp foarte de&lt;br&gt;
scurt (3-4 zile). Ma duc in general la conferinte cind sunt inconjurat&lt;br&gt;
de colegi straini sau cu unul din copiii mei (nascuti in USA, care&lt;br&gt;
sunt majori) sau cu nevasta mea care este naturalizata americana dar&lt;br&gt;
nu este din Romania. Nici o data nu ma duc singur! Am un coleg care nu&lt;br&gt;
a intrat in Romania din 1978. Este membru al academiei de stiinte USA&lt;br&gt;
si a luat cea mai mare dsitinctie stiintifica americana: The&lt;br&gt;
Presidential Medal of Honor data de Presedintele USA personal la Casa&lt;br&gt;
Alba. Dar el nu intra in Romania caci este fugit si deci criminal inca&lt;br&gt;
si astazi in Romania. Asta este atitudinea Romaniei fata de diaspora!&lt;br&gt;
Acest matematician este probabil cel mai mare om de stiinta roman la&lt;br&gt;
ora actuala. In orice caz este cel mai decorat.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Cum am spus in scrisoarea mea trecuta, acest grup de oameni sunt&lt;br&gt;
tinuti si astazi la distanta si Romania este foarte bucuroasa daca nu&lt;br&gt;
apar in tara.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
M-am interesat, in principiu, daca este posibil ca copiii mei sa ia&lt;br&gt;
cetatenie romana. Este imposibil! Sau la fel de posibil ca lui&lt;br&gt;
Mohammed Abdul sau lui Zexiang Wu. As fi vrut sa ii leg de tara macar&lt;br&gt;
in principiu datorita numelui care il poarta, dar nu se poate. Deci si&lt;br&gt;
urmasii acestor oameni sunt tinuti departe de tara. Contrastati asta&lt;br&gt;
cu ce se intimpla in alte tari. De exemplu daca cineva poate demonstra&lt;br&gt;
ca are un bunic italian, spaniol, irlandez sau ungur, poate cere&lt;br&gt;
cetatenia acestor tari oriunde ar fi in lume (despre aceste tari stiu&lt;br&gt;
precis caci am cunostiinte care au facut asta). Nici nu mai vorbesc de&lt;br&gt;
Germania sau Israel cu &amp;quot;Law of Return&amp;quot;.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Sa ne intoarcem la Herta Mueller. Aceste aspecte din Romania sunt cele&lt;br&gt;
criticate de ea  si are mare dreptate. In sfirsit cineva care spune&lt;br&gt;
aceste lucruri este ascultat, caci pe mine nu ma asculta nimeni&lt;br&gt;
deoarece sunt matematician si deci nu am nici un ascendent literar,&lt;br&gt;
politic, sau sociologic. Despre aceste lucruri vorbeste foarte urit -&lt;br&gt;
cum ar putea vorbi altfel? De fapt, eu ma mir ca Herta Mueller nu&lt;br&gt;
vorbeste si mai urit! Eu ii pot da material mai rau decit ceea ce&lt;br&gt;
scrie, si nu sunt singurul. O pot pune in legatura cu multi oameni&lt;br&gt;
care ii pot povesti lucruri care fac sa para romanele ei pline de&lt;br&gt;
optimism! Asta este partea Romaniei pe care ea o critica aspru.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Deci daca Romania sunteti voi, aceasta generatie tinara, aveti o mare&lt;br&gt;
responsabilitate caci fara sa vreti, purtati rusinea generatiei&lt;br&gt;
anterioare. Daca doriti ca Romania sa fie luata in serios si sa nu se&lt;br&gt;
mai vorbeasca urit de ea, trebuie sa aveti constiinta civica si&lt;br&gt;
responsabilitate morala. Puteti schimba lucrurile. Tara este a&lt;br&gt;
voastra, nu a mea, aveti tot viitorul in fata, nu ca mine. Deci fiti&lt;br&gt;
responsabili politic. Nu are nici o importanta cu ce partid votati,&lt;br&gt;
dar votati oameni seriosi, oameni care nu au colaborat cu regimul&lt;br&gt;
comunist. Sper ca dintre voi vor fi in citiva ani reprezentaniti in&lt;br&gt;
parlament si in guvern. Daca Romania sunteti voi, fiti demni de&lt;br&gt;
aceasta chemare, participati la conducerea tarii, fiecare cum puteti&lt;br&gt;
si cum stiti sa o faceti.&lt;br&gt;
Fiecare la locul lui poate avea o atitudine responsabila si daca asta&lt;br&gt;
reusiti sa o extindeti la multi oameni faceti minuni. Voi sunteti&lt;br&gt;
aceia care trebuie sa schimbati lucrurile. Nimeni nu vine din exterior&lt;br&gt;
sa va curete casa.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Este ultima scrisoare la care mai raspund. Am enorm de lucru, am prea&lt;br&gt;
multi doctoranzi si postdocs, prea multe proiecte de cercetare cu&lt;br&gt;
colegi pretutindeni in lume ca sa ma pot ocupa de altceva decit de&lt;br&gt;
lucru. Va doresc numai bine si sper sa mai aud de voi in viitor numai&lt;br&gt;
lucruri bune.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Tudor Ratiu&lt;br&gt;
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-25837088</id>
	<title>Stundenti UNIL?</title>
	<published>2009-10-10T11:32:24Z</published>
	<updated>2009-10-10T11:32:24Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>M.E.C.</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Salut, sunt Catalina si caut studenti in drept la UNIL. Daca va numarati printre ei sau cunoasteti, va rog sa ma contactati la adresa c.marculescu@yahoo.com
&lt;br&gt;Am uitat sa precizez ca sunt studenta in anul I.</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-25775315</id>
	<title>petrecere,  seara de bere, reminder</title>
	<published>2009-10-06T12:39:56Z</published>
	<updated>2009-10-06T12:39:56Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>dantitus.salajan</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Salutare,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Asociatia va invita cu mult drag la deja traditionala petrecere de &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;inceput de an academic. Dupa cum cei vechi stiu, iar cei noi afla &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;citind acest email, este unul dintre momentele cele mai calde si mai &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;frumoase ale vietii de student roman la Lausanne. La inceputul serii &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;vom gusta mancaruri traditionale, sarmale, mici etc etc., iar apoi &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;dansul ne va tine treji si veseli pana spre dimineata.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Anul acesta marele eveniment se va desfasura VINERI, 9 OCTOMBRIE, &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;incepind cu orele 20, la Refugiul CENSUY din Renens.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Locatia aici
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.renens.ch/pdf/Plan_Refuge.pdf&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.renens.ch/pdf/Plan_Refuge.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://maps.google.com/maps?source=s_q&amp;hl=en&amp;geocode=&amp;q=censuy,&amp;vps=1&amp;jsv=178b&amp;sll=37.0625,-95.677068&amp;sspn=49.223579,79.013672&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;near=lausanne&amp;split=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://maps.google.com/maps?source=s_q&amp;hl=en&amp;geocode=&amp;q=censuy,&amp;vps=1&amp;jsv=178b&amp;sll=37.0625,-95.677068&amp;sspn=49.223579,79.013672&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;near=lausanne&amp;split=1&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cei care au probleme in a identifica sau ajunge la locul faptei, se &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;pot adresa &amp;nbsp;pe lista de discutii sau la numarul 0786310890 si &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;organizam o deplasare in grup. Oricum e aproape de epfl :)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;si ca si un WARM UP: Seara de bere a asociatiei continua si saptamana &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;asta, joi, de la orele 18, in SAT, la epfl.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Va asteptam cu drag,
&lt;br&gt;Dan
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</content>
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-25717830</id>
	<title>fashion party, vineri 09</title>
	<published>2009-10-02T08:31:12Z</published>
	<updated>2009-10-02T08:31:12Z</updated>
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		<name>Alexandru Rusu</name>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-25714104</id>
	<title>Film: Fatza galbena care rade</title>
	<published>2009-10-02T04:17:13Z</published>
	<updated>2009-10-02T04:17:13Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Nicolae Chiurtu-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">O comedie emotionanta despre doi parinti, total nepriceputi la
&lt;br&gt;calculatoare, care incearca sa comunice prin Yahoo Messenger cu fiul
&lt;br&gt;lor care se afla in America.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://vimeo.com/5985294&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://vimeo.com/5985294&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-25699038</id>
	<title>Re: Bere, Sat si Joi</title>
	<published>2009-10-01T06:35:28Z</published>
	<updated>2009-10-01T06:35:28Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>dantitus.salajan</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Am uitat sa precizez ca treaba asta se va repeta in fiecare joi, in SAT.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;EXCEPTIONAL, astazi &amp;quot;berea asociatiei&amp;quot; se va desfasura de la ora 22, in oras,
&lt;br&gt;mai precis in THE GREAT ESCAPE.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Va asteptam, cu mult drag, pe cat mai multi.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Dan,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Quoting &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25699038&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;dantitus.salajan@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25699038&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;dantitus.salajan@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Salutare,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Dupa cum ati observat probabil, a venit toamna. Si de aici o gramada
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; de consecinte, inceperea cursurilor, ritmul alert de viata, nostalgia
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; verii.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Cate ceva mai poate fi salvat totusi. Asa ca Asociatia distinsilor
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; studenti romani de la EPFL va invita, cu mult drag, la o bere.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Unde,cand?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; SATELLITE(EPFL), JOI, 24 SEPTEMBRIE , intre orele 17-21 (foarte
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; flexibil pentru toate orarele)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; si, inutil sa mai precizez, cu posibilitati de prelungiri in oras.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Voia buna, berea de calitate, conversatia inteligenta, sunt asigurate!
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; sa ne vedem cat mai multi si sa avem cu totii un an cat mai bun,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Dan,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-25694360</id>
	<title>apartament 1 camera liber in centru lausanne</title>
	<published>2009-10-01T00:42:18Z</published>
	<updated>2009-10-01T00:42:18Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Malina-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;div&gt;Dragilor,&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;apartamentul meu la adresa Avenue Vinet 35, 1004, Lausanne, va fi liber incepand cu 9 noiembrie 2009.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Apartamentul e cam asa:&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;- 1 camera luminoasa&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;- 1 bucatarie cu frigider si aragaz&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;- 1 balcon cu posibilitate de inchidere pt iarna&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;- 1  baie cu vana&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;- 1 hol&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;- suprafatza 35 m2&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;- ferestre inspre interior, cu un pic de liniste si verdeatza&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;- la 3 min de Chauderon, Riponne, Movida, Flon, etc.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;- chirie 860 CHF (a crescut de la 840 CHF in sept 2008 deci cred ca e stabila), charges comprises&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;N-am poze...da e mic si frumos. Maria, Denisa, Diana, Iuli, Alex cunosc apartamentu.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Daca cineva e interesat, scrieti-mi un mail. Sunt acasa pt vizite in seara asta de la 20h00 la 22h00 si sambata dupa-masa.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Daca nu primesc nici un raspuns de la &amp;#39;romani&amp;#39; pana vineri deschid internet advertising. &lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Pana atunci, comunitatea are exclusivitate!&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br clear=&quot;all&quot;&gt;Va astept!&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Malina&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- &lt;br&gt;A beginning is the time for taking the most delicate care that the balances are correct.&lt;br&gt;Frank Herbert&lt;br&gt;Dune&lt;br&gt;
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-25613724</id>
	<title>bun venit</title>
	<published>2009-09-25T08:03:40Z</published>
	<updated>2009-09-25T08:03:40Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Maria Mateescu</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Bun venit Anei pe lista noastra de discutii!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Maria.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-------- Original Message --------
&lt;br&gt;Subject: 	RE: ro@listes
&lt;br&gt;Date: 	Fri, 25 Sep 2009 17:01:47 +0200
&lt;br&gt;From: 	Raduta Ana Maria &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25613724&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;anamaria.raduta@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;To: 	Mateescu Maria-Emanuela-Canini &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25613724&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;maria.mateescu@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Salut,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Bine v-am gasit !
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;O foarte scurta prezentare a mea…
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Vin din Timisoara si am terminat Fac de Chimie Industriala din cadrul 
&lt;br&gt;Politehnicii . Aici am inceput studiile doctorale in cadrul 
&lt;br&gt;Departamentului de Stiinta Materialelor, departamentul de polimeri.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cu mult drag,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ana
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;*From:* &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25613724&amp;i=2&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;zambet@...&lt;/a&gt; [mailto:&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25613724&amp;i=3&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;zambet@...&lt;/a&gt;] *On Behalf Of *Maria 
&lt;br&gt;Mateescu
&lt;br&gt;*Sent:* vendredi 25 septembre 2009 16:39
&lt;br&gt;*To:* Raduta Ana Maria
&lt;br&gt;*Subject:* ro@listes
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Salut Ana-Maria,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Bine ai venit pe lista noastra de discutii! :-).
&lt;br&gt;Traditia cere sa'mi trimiti o scurta prezentare a ta prin care sa te pot
&lt;br&gt;anunta pe grup.
&lt;br&gt;De asemenea, poti vedea ce prezentari de genul acesta au mai facut
&lt;br&gt;oamenii daca te uiti in arhivele accesibile din pagina noastra web:
&lt;br&gt;aro.epfl.ch &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://aro.epfl.ch&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://aro.epfl.ch&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cu bine,
&lt;br&gt;Maria.
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-25582484</id>
	<title>Eveniment cu romani la Geneva</title>
	<published>2009-09-23T11:12:04Z</published>
	<updated>2009-09-23T11:12:04Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>sandu-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Sâmb?t? 3 ?i duminic? 4 octombrie va avea loc, în catedrala St Pierre &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;din Geneva (ora?ul vechi) concertele excep?ionale &amp;quot;Il était une fois &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;une croix&amp;quot; ale Orchestrei ?i corului Te Deum Adoramus Philarmonia din &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;România.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Concertele sunt organizate în cadrul manifest?rilor comemorative a 500 &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;ani de la na?terea lui Jean Calvin
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Flyer-ul concertelor din 3-4 octombrie 2009 este atasat!
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