A couple of questions on iPojo

[Vlatko Davidovski-2]

Hi!

As I am new to iPojo, I have a couple of questions:
1. How to get the value of the annotated field managedservice  
programmatically?
2. Does immediate attribute of service A mean that required services  
(B & C) are monitored and as soon as they are available, an instance  
of the service A is created?
3. What is the difference between @Property and @ServiceProperty?
4. What is the usage of the attributes architecture, factory_method,  
public_factory of @Component?

Hope someone can help with the answers.

Thanks!
Vlatko

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[clement escoffier]

Hi,

On 12.10.2009, at 02:01, Vlatko Davidovski wrote:

> Hi!
>
> As I am new to iPojo, I have a couple of questions:
> 1. How to get the value of the annotated field managedservice  
> programmatically?

The Architecture service can give you such information. If not  
disabled, every instance exposed an Architecture service allowing you  
to get the InstanceDescription. Thanks to that object you can check  
the current state of properties, provided services, dependencies...

> 2. Does immediate attribute of service A mean that required services  
> (B & C) are monitored and as soon as they are available, an instance  
> of the service A is created?

Immediate means that, as soon as valid (i.e.e service dependencies  
resolved), a POJO instance will be created. It will not create a  
component instance, but it will create a component implementation  
class object.

> 3. What is the difference between @Property and @ServiceProperty?

@ServiceProperty are properties published with the provided services  
(if the instance publishes services).
@Property are internal properties which are not published with the  
provided services.

> 4. What is the usage of the attributes architecture, factory_method,  
> public_factory of @Component?

- architecture allows you to disable the introspection service. The  
introspection is enabled by default.
- factory_method allows you to use a static method of the class to  
create the POJO object. In that case, iPOJO call this method instead  
of the regular constructor when the creation of one object is required.
- public_factory allows you to set if the component type factory is  
public or not. Public factories (the default) are exposed as services  
(Factory, and ManagedServiceFactory) and allows the creation of  
component instances from others bundles (either declared inside a  
metadata.xml, or with the API).

Regards,

Clement



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[Richard S. Hall]

On 10/12/09 7:58, Clement Escoffier wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On 12.10.2009, at 02:01, Vlatko Davidovski wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> As I am new to iPojo, I have a couple of questions:
>> 1. How to get the value of the annotated field managedservice
>> programmatically?
>
> The Architecture service can give you such information. If not
> disabled, every instance exposed an Architecture service allowing you
> to get the InstanceDescription. Thanks to that object you can check
> the current state of properties, provided services, dependencies...
>
>> 2. Does immediate attribute of service A mean that required services
>> (B & C) are monitored and as soon as they are available, an instance
>> of the service A is created?
>
> Immediate means that, as soon as valid (i.e.e service dependencies
> resolved), a POJO instance will be created. It will not create a
> component instance, but it will create a component implementation
> class object.

Another way to think about it, is if you have this:

<instance component="myclass"/>

You are creating a component container to manage the POJO and lazily
create it once someone tries to use it (assuming it provides a service
and its dependencies are satisfied). If you annotate the component as
immediately, then the above is no longer lazy and it will create the
POJO immediately even if no one is using it (assuming its dependencies
are satisfied).

Also, if you have a component type that doesn't provide a service, then
component instances are always treated as immediate, since there would
be no way for someone to use it to trigger the POJO creation.

-> richard

>
>> 3. What is the difference between @Property and @ServiceProperty?
>
> @ServiceProperty are properties published with the provided services
> (if the instance publishes services).
> @Property are internal properties which are not published with the
> provided services.
>
>> 4. What is the usage of the attributes architecture, factory_method,
>> public_factory of @Component?
>
> - architecture allows you to disable the introspection service. The
> introspection is enabled by default.
> - factory_method allows you to use a static method of the class to
> create the POJO object. In that case, iPOJO call this method instead
> of the regular constructor when the creation of one object is required.
> - public_factory allows you to set if the component type factory is
> public or not. Public factories (the default) are exposed as services
> (Factory, and ManagedServiceFactory) and allows the creation of
> component instances from others bundles (either declared inside a
> metadata.xml, or with the API).
>
> Regards,
>
> Clement
>
>
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[Vlatko Davidovski-2]

Thanks Richard!
This was helpful.

Regards,
Vlatko

On Oct 12, 2009, at 12:01 PM, Richard S. Hall wrote:

> On 10/12/09 7:58, Clement Escoffier wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 12.10.2009, at 02:01, Vlatko Davidovski wrote:
>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> As I am new to iPojo, I have a couple of questions:
>>> 1. How to get the value of the annotated field managedservice  
>>> programmatically?
>>
>> The Architecture service can give you such information. If not  
>> disabled, every instance exposed an Architecture service allowing  
>> you to get the InstanceDescription. Thanks to that object you can  
>> check the current state of properties, provided services,  
>> dependencies...
>>
>>> 2. Does immediate attribute of service A mean that required  
>>> services (B & C) are monitored and as soon as they are available,  
>>> an instance of the service A is created?
>>
>> Immediate means that, as soon as valid (i.e.e service dependencies  
>> resolved), a POJO instance will be created. It will not create a  
>> component instance, but it will create a component implementation  
>> class object.
>
> Another way to think about it, is if you have this:
>
> <instance component="myclass"/>
>
> You are creating a component container to manage the POJO and lazily  
> create it once someone tries to use it (assuming it provides a  
> service and its dependencies are satisfied). If you annotate the  
> component as immediately, then the above is no longer lazy and it  
> will create the POJO immediately even if no one is using it  
> (assuming its dependencies are satisfied).
>
> Also, if you have a component type that doesn't provide a service,  
> then component instances are always treated as immediate, since  
> there would be no way for someone to use it to trigger the POJO  
> creation.
>
> -> richard
>
>>
>>> 3. What is the difference between @Property and @ServiceProperty?
>>
>> @ServiceProperty are properties published with the provided  
>> services (if the instance publishes services).
>> @Property are internal properties which are not published with the  
>> provided services.
>>
>>> 4. What is the usage of the attributes architecture,  
>>> factory_method, public_factory of @Component?
>>
>> - architecture allows you to disable the introspection service. The  
>> introspection is enabled by default.
>> - factory_method allows you to use a static method of the class to  
>> create the POJO object. In that case, iPOJO call this method  
>> instead of the regular constructor when the creation of one object  
>> is required.
>> - public_factory allows you to set if the component type factory is  
>> public or not. Public factories (the default) are exposed as  
>> services (Factory, and ManagedServiceFactory) and allows the  
>> creation of component instances from others bundles (either  
>> declared inside a metadata.xml, or with the API).
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Clement
>>
>>
>>
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[Vlatko Davidovski-2]

Thanks Clement!

A small question.
I still cannot find how to get the managedservice parameter from the  
architecture.getInstanceDescription()

Currently I have:
@Component(architecture=true, immediate=true, propagation = true,  
managedservice
=
"ch
.ethz.inf.vs.aparat.registry.osgi.services.DeviceRegistryServiceImpl")
@Provides
public class DeviceRegistryServiceImpl implements  
DeviceRegistryService {
.......
@Requires
private Architecture architecture;

@Validate
public void start() {
......
// I need the managedservice value here
}

On Oct 12, 2009, at 7:58 AM, Clement Escoffier wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On 12.10.2009, at 02:01, Vlatko Davidovski wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> As I am new to iPojo, I have a couple of questions:
>> 1. How to get the value of the annotated field managedservice  
>> programmatically?
>
> The Architecture service can give you such information. If not  
> disabled, every instance exposed an Architecture service allowing  
> you to get the InstanceDescription. Thanks to that object you can  
> check the current state of properties, provided services,  
> dependencies...
>
>> 2. Does immediate attribute of service A mean that required  
>> services (B & C) are monitored and as soon as they are available,  
>> an instance of the service A is created?
>
> Immediate means that, as soon as valid (i.e.e service dependencies  
> resolved), a POJO instance will be created. It will not create a  
> component instance, but it will create a component implementation  
> class object.
>
>> 3. What is the difference between @Property and @ServiceProperty?
>
> @ServiceProperty are properties published with the provided services  
> (if the instance publishes services).
> @Property are internal properties which are not published with the  
> provided services.
>
>> 4. What is the usage of the attributes architecture,  
>> factory_method, public_factory of @Component?
>
> - architecture allows you to disable the introspection service. The  
> introspection is enabled by default.
> - factory_method allows you to use a static method of the class to  
> create the POJO object. In that case, iPOJO call this method instead  
> of the regular constructor when the creation of one object is  
> required.
> - public_factory allows you to set if the component type factory is  
> public or not. Public factories (the default) are exposed as  
> services (Factory, and ManagedServiceFactory) and allows the  
> creation of component instances from others bundles (either declared  
> inside a metadata.xml, or with the API).
>
> Regards,
>
> Clement
>
>
>
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[clement escoffier]

Hi,


On 12.10.2009, at 14:36, Vlatko Davidovski wrote:

> Thanks Clement!
>
> A small question.
> I still cannot find how to get the managedservice parameter from the  
> architecture.getInstanceDescription()
>
> Currently I have:
> @Component(architecture=true, immediate=true, propagation = true,  
> managedservice
> =
> "ch
> .ethz.inf.vs.aparat.registry.osgi.services.DeviceRegistryServiceImpl")
> @Provides
> public class DeviceRegistryServiceImpl implements  
> DeviceRegistryService {
> .......
> @Requires
> private Architecture architecture;
>
> @Validate
> public void start() {
> ......
> // I need the managedservice value here
> }

Can you explain me a little bit what's your architecture and goal ?

ManagedService is a service. If enabled, iPOJO registers this service  
for you with the given PID, the instance.name and factory.name  
properties.

So if you know the name of your instance or of your factory (be care  
if you create several component instance), you just need a service  
dependencies on the service.

However, you should never directly access to the ManagedService which  
is a Configuration Admin service.

If you need to get a configuration:
- either you push it in the instance declaration:
<instance component="...">
<property name="p" value="v"/>
</instance>
- or you create a ManagedServiceFactory configuration (using your  
component type name as ManagedServiceFactory PID.

If you just need to reconfigure yourself, then, you just use the  
(direct) reconfigure method of the Factory service.

Regards,

Clement

>
> On Oct 12, 2009, at 7:58 AM, Clement Escoffier wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 12.10.2009, at 02:01, Vlatko Davidovski wrote:
>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> As I am new to iPojo, I have a couple of questions:
>>> 1. How to get the value of the annotated field managedservice  
>>> programmatically?
>>
>> The Architecture service can give you such information. If not  
>> disabled, every instance exposed an Architecture service allowing  
>> you to get the InstanceDescription. Thanks to that object you can  
>> check the current state of properties, provided services,  
>> dependencies...
>>
>>> 2. Does immediate attribute of service A mean that required  
>>> services (B & C) are monitored and as soon as they are available,  
>>> an instance of the service A is created?
>>
>> Immediate means that, as soon as valid (i.e.e service dependencies  
>> resolved), a POJO instance will be created. It will not create a  
>> component instance, but it will create a component implementation  
>> class object.
>>
>>> 3. What is the difference between @Property and @ServiceProperty?
>>
>> @ServiceProperty are properties published with the provided  
>> services (if the instance publishes services).
>> @Property are internal properties which are not published with the  
>> provided services.
>>
>>> 4. What is the usage of the attributes architecture,  
>>> factory_method, public_factory of @Component?
>>
>> - architecture allows you to disable the introspection service. The  
>> introspection is enabled by default.
>> - factory_method allows you to use a static method of the class to  
>> create the POJO object. In that case, iPOJO call this method  
>> instead of the regular constructor when the creation of one object  
>> is required.
>> - public_factory allows you to set if the component type factory is  
>> public or not. Public factories (the default) are exposed as  
>> services (Factory, and ManagedServiceFactory) and allows the  
>> creation of component instances from others bundles (either  
>> declared inside a metadata.xml, or with the API).
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Clement
>>
>>
>>
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[clement escoffier]

BTW,

if you just need to get access to your configuration,
just use the @Property annotation:


@Property
private String myProperty;

If the configuration admin contains a configuration for you, this  
field will contain the value.

Regards,

clement

On 12.10.2009, at 17:51, Clement Escoffier wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
> On 12.10.2009, at 14:36, Vlatko Davidovski wrote:
>
>> Thanks Clement!
>>
>> A small question.
>> I still cannot find how to get the managedservice parameter from  
>> the architecture.getInstanceDescription()
>>
>> Currently I have:
>> @Component(architecture=true, immediate=true, propagation = true,  
>> managedservice
>> =
>> "ch
>> .ethz
>> .inf.vs.aparat.registry.osgi.services.DeviceRegistryServiceImpl")
>> @Provides
>> public class DeviceRegistryServiceImpl implements  
>> DeviceRegistryService {
>> .......
>> @Requires
>> private Architecture architecture;
>>
>> @Validate
>> public void start() {
>> ......
>> // I need the managedservice value here
>> }
>
> Can you explain me a little bit what's your architecture and goal ?
>
> ManagedService is a service. If enabled, iPOJO registers this  
> service for you with the given PID, the instance.name and  
> factory.name properties.
>
> So if you know the name of your instance or of your factory (be care  
> if you create several component instance), you just need a service  
> dependencies on the service.
>
> However, you should never directly access to the ManagedService  
> which is a Configuration Admin service.
>
> If you need to get a configuration:
> - either you push it in the instance declaration:
> <instance component="...">
> <property name="p" value="v"/>
> </instance>
> - or you create a ManagedServiceFactory configuration (using your  
> component type name as ManagedServiceFactory PID.
>
> If you just need to reconfigure yourself, then, you just use the  
> (direct) reconfigure method of the Factory service.
>
> Regards,
>
> Clement
>
>>
>> On Oct 12, 2009, at 7:58 AM, Clement Escoffier wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On 12.10.2009, at 02:01, Vlatko Davidovski wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi!
>>>>
>>>> As I am new to iPojo, I have a couple of questions:
>>>> 1. How to get the value of the annotated field managedservice  
>>>> programmatically?
>>>
>>> The Architecture service can give you such information. If not  
>>> disabled, every instance exposed an Architecture service allowing  
>>> you to get the InstanceDescription. Thanks to that object you can  
>>> check the current state of properties, provided services,  
>>> dependencies...
>>>
>>>> 2. Does immediate attribute of service A mean that required  
>>>> services (B & C) are monitored and as soon as they are available,  
>>>> an instance of the service A is created?
>>>
>>> Immediate means that, as soon as valid (i.e.e service dependencies  
>>> resolved), a POJO instance will be created. It will not create a  
>>> component instance, but it will create a component implementation  
>>> class object.
>>>
>>>> 3. What is the difference between @Property and @ServiceProperty?
>>>
>>> @ServiceProperty are properties published with the provided  
>>> services (if the instance publishes services).
>>> @Property are internal properties which are not published with the  
>>> provided services.
>>>
>>>> 4. What is the usage of the attributes architecture,  
>>>> factory_method, public_factory of @Component?
>>>
>>> - architecture allows you to disable the introspection service.  
>>> The introspection is enabled by default.
>>> - factory_method allows you to use a static method of the class to  
>>> create the POJO object. In that case, iPOJO call this method  
>>> instead of the regular constructor when the creation of one object  
>>> is required.
>>> - public_factory allows you to set if the component type factory  
>>> is public or not. Public factories (the default) are exposed as  
>>> services (Factory, and ManagedServiceFactory) and allows the  
>>> creation of component instances from others bundles (either  
>>> declared inside a metadata.xml, or with the API).
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Clement
>>>
>>>
>>>
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[Vlatko Davidovski-2]

Clement,

I basically want to have one bundle called the aparat-configurator - a  
centralized bundle for management of the different service  
configuration.
It is basically a proxy for the ConfigurationAdmin with the difference  
that it has 2 methods:
getCustomProperties(String pid) - gets the properties for a registered  
service from the configuration admin
gedDefaultProperties(String pid) - gets safe properties (can be used  
in case something goes wrong with the first one)

Therefore, when I have:
@Component(architecture = true, immediate = true, propagation = true,  
managedservice =  
"ch
.ethz.inf.vs.aparat.registry.osgi.services.DeviceRegistryServiceImpl")
@Provides
public class DeviceRegistryServiceImpl implements  
DeviceRegistryService {

@Requires
private ConfiguratorService configuratorService;

@ServiceProperty
private String databasePath;

@Validate
public void start() {
Dictionary<String, String> properties =  
configuratorService.getCustomProperties(managedservice);
databasePath = properties.get("databasePath");

try{
// Create db using custom properties
}
catch(Exception e) {
Dictionary<String, String> properties =  
configuratorService.getDefaultProperties(managedservice);
databasePath = properties.get("databasePath");

// Create db using default properties
}

And I need access to the managedservice property programmatically.

On Oct 12, 2009, at 5:55 PM, Clement Escoffier wrote:

> BTW,
>
> if you just need to get access to your configuration,
> just use the @Property annotation:
>
>
> @Property
> private String myProperty;
>
> If the configuration admin contains a configuration for you, this  
> field will contain the value.
>
> Regards,
>
> clement
>
> On 12.10.2009, at 17:51, Clement Escoffier wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>> On 12.10.2009, at 14:36, Vlatko Davidovski wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Clement!
>>>
>>> A small question.
>>> I still cannot find how to get the managedservice parameter from  
>>> the architecture.getInstanceDescription()
>>>
>>> Currently I have:
>>> @Component(architecture=true, immediate=true, propagation = true,  
>>> managedservice
>>> =
>>> "ch
>>> .ethz
>>> .inf.vs.aparat.registry.osgi.services.DeviceRegistryServiceImpl")
>>> @Provides
>>> public class DeviceRegistryServiceImpl implements  
>>> DeviceRegistryService {
>>> .......
>>> @Requires
>>> private Architecture architecture;
>>>
>>> @Validate
>>> public void start() {
>>> ......
>>> // I need the managedservice value here
>>> }
>>
>> Can you explain me a little bit what's your architecture and goal ?
>>
>> ManagedService is a service. If enabled, iPOJO registers this  
>> service for you with the given PID, the instance.name and  
>> factory.name properties.
>>
>> So if you know the name of your instance or of your factory (be  
>> care if you create several component instance), you just need a  
>> service dependencies on the service.
>>
>> However, you should never directly access to the ManagedService  
>> which is a Configuration Admin service.
>>
>> If you need to get a configuration:
>> - either you push it in the instance declaration:
>> <instance component="...">
>> <property name="p" value="v"/>
>> </instance>
>> - or you create a ManagedServiceFactory configuration (using your  
>> component type name as ManagedServiceFactory PID.
>>
>> If you just need to reconfigure yourself, then, you just use the  
>> (direct) reconfigure method of the Factory service.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Clement
>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 12, 2009, at 7:58 AM, Clement Escoffier wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> On 12.10.2009, at 02:01, Vlatko Davidovski wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>
>>>>> As I am new to iPojo, I have a couple of questions:
>>>>> 1. How to get the value of the annotated field managedservice  
>>>>> programmatically?
>>>>
>>>> The Architecture service can give you such information. If not  
>>>> disabled, every instance exposed an Architecture service allowing  
>>>> you to get the InstanceDescription. Thanks to that object you can  
>>>> check the current state of properties, provided services,  
>>>> dependencies...
>>>>
>>>>> 2. Does immediate attribute of service A mean that required  
>>>>> services (B & C) are monitored and as soon as they are  
>>>>> available, an instance of the service A is created?
>>>>
>>>> Immediate means that, as soon as valid (i.e.e service  
>>>> dependencies resolved), a POJO instance will be created. It will  
>>>> not create a component instance, but it will create a component  
>>>> implementation class object.
>>>>
>>>>> 3. What is the difference between @Property and @ServiceProperty?
>>>>
>>>> @ServiceProperty are properties published with the provided  
>>>> services (if the instance publishes services).
>>>> @Property are internal properties which are not published with  
>>>> the provided services.
>>>>
>>>>> 4. What is the usage of the attributes architecture,  
>>>>> factory_method, public_factory of @Component?
>>>>
>>>> - architecture allows you to disable the introspection service.  
>>>> The introspection is enabled by default.
>>>> - factory_method allows you to use a static method of the class  
>>>> to create the POJO object. In that case, iPOJO call this method  
>>>> instead of the regular constructor when the creation of one  
>>>> object is required.
>>>> - public_factory allows you to set if the component type factory  
>>>> is public or not. Public factories (the default) are exposed as  
>>>> services (Factory, and ManagedServiceFactory) and allows the  
>>>> creation of component instances from others bundles (either  
>>>> declared inside a metadata.xml, or with the API).
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Clement
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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[clement escoffier]

Hi,



On 12.10.2009, at 18:36, Vlatko Davidovski wrote:

> Clement,
>
> I basically want to have one bundle called the aparat-configurator -  
> a centralized bundle for management of the different service  
> configuration.
> It is basically a proxy for the ConfigurationAdmin with the  
> difference that it has 2 methods:
> getCustomProperties(String pid) - gets the properties for a  
> registered service from the configuration admin
> gedDefaultProperties(String pid) - gets safe properties (can be used  
> in case something goes wrong with the first one)
>
> Therefore, when I have:
> @Component(architecture = true, immediate = true, propagation =  
> true, managedservice =  
> "ch
> .ethz.inf.vs.aparat.registry.osgi.services.DeviceRegistryServiceImpl")
> @Provides
> public class DeviceRegistryServiceImpl implements  
> DeviceRegistryService {
>
> @Requires
> private ConfiguratorService configuratorService;
>
> @ServiceProperty
> private String databasePath;
>
> @Validate
> public void start() {
> Dictionary<String, String> properties =  
> configuratorService.getCustomProperties(managedservice);
> databasePath = properties.get("databasePath");
>
> try{
> // Create db using custom properties
> }
> catch(Exception e) {
> Dictionary<String, String> properties =  
> configuratorService.getDefaultProperties(managedservice);
> databasePath = properties.get("databasePath");
>
> // Create db using default properties
> }
>
> And I need access to the managedservice property programmatically.

Thanks fro these explanations. It is a very interesting use case.  
Actually, the managed service is the only configuration parameter non  
retrievable with 'architecture' !

I'm filling a new Jira issue to support that (Felix-1741).

For the time being, you can duplicate the name inside a configuration  
property:
@Component // No more need to set the managed service here, it will be  
set in the instance configuration
public class MyClass {

@Property(name="managed.service.pid")
String myManagedServicePID;
  ...
}

Then, in the instance declaration you can add the property
<instance component="...">
    <property name="managed.service.pid" value="mymanagedservicepid"/>
</instance>


The managed service pid property will be used twice : 1) as the  
managed service pid, 2) as property value (injected inside the  
myManagedServicePID).

Regards,

Clement

>
> On Oct 12, 2009, at 5:55 PM, Clement Escoffier wrote:
>
>> BTW,
>>
>> if you just need to get access to your configuration,
>> just use the @Property annotation:
>>
>>
>> @Property
>> private String myProperty;
>>
>> If the configuration admin contains a configuration for you, this  
>> field will contain the value.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> clement
>>
>> On 12.10.2009, at 17:51, Clement Escoffier wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12.10.2009, at 14:36, Vlatko Davidovski wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Clement!
>>>>
>>>> A small question.
>>>> I still cannot find how to get the managedservice parameter from  
>>>> the architecture.getInstanceDescription()
>>>>
>>>> Currently I have:
>>>> @Component(architecture=true, immediate=true, propagation = true,  
>>>> managedservice
>>>> =
>>>> "ch
>>>> .ethz
>>>> .inf.vs.aparat.registry.osgi.services.DeviceRegistryServiceImpl")
>>>> @Provides
>>>> public class DeviceRegistryServiceImpl implements  
>>>> DeviceRegistryService {
>>>> .......
>>>> @Requires
>>>> private Architecture architecture;
>>>>
>>>> @Validate
>>>> public void start() {
>>>> ......
>>>> // I need the managedservice value here
>>>> }
>>>
>>> Can you explain me a little bit what's your architecture and goal ?
>>>
>>> ManagedService is a service. If enabled, iPOJO registers this  
>>> service for you with the given PID, the instance.name and  
>>> factory.name properties.
>>>
>>> So if you know the name of your instance or of your factory (be  
>>> care if you create several component instance), you just need a  
>>> service dependencies on the service.
>>>
>>> However, you should never directly access to the ManagedService  
>>> which is a Configuration Admin service.
>>>
>>> If you need to get a configuration:
>>> - either you push it in the instance declaration:
>>> <instance component="...">
>>> <property name="p" value="v"/>
>>> </instance>
>>> - or you create a ManagedServiceFactory configuration (using your  
>>> component type name as ManagedServiceFactory PID.
>>>
>>> If you just need to reconfigure yourself, then, you just use the  
>>> (direct) reconfigure method of the Factory service.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Clement
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 12, 2009, at 7:58 AM, Clement Escoffier wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12.10.2009, at 02:01, Vlatko Davidovski wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As I am new to iPojo, I have a couple of questions:
>>>>>> 1. How to get the value of the annotated field managedservice  
>>>>>> programmatically?
>>>>>
>>>>> The Architecture service can give you such information. If not  
>>>>> disabled, every instance exposed an Architecture service  
>>>>> allowing you to get the InstanceDescription. Thanks to that  
>>>>> object you can check the current state of properties, provided  
>>>>> services, dependencies...
>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. Does immediate attribute of service A mean that required  
>>>>>> services (B & C) are monitored and as soon as they are  
>>>>>> available, an instance of the service A is created?
>>>>>
>>>>> Immediate means that, as soon as valid (i.e.e service  
>>>>> dependencies resolved), a POJO instance will be created. It will  
>>>>> not create a component instance, but it will create a component  
>>>>> implementation class object.
>>>>>
>>>>>> 3. What is the difference between @Property and @ServiceProperty?
>>>>>
>>>>> @ServiceProperty are properties published with the provided  
>>>>> services (if the instance publishes services).
>>>>> @Property are internal properties which are not published with  
>>>>> the provided services.
>>>>>
>>>>>> 4. What is the usage of the attributes architecture,  
>>>>>> factory_method, public_factory of @Component?
>>>>>
>>>>> - architecture allows you to disable the introspection service.  
>>>>> The introspection is enabled by default.
>>>>> - factory_method allows you to use a static method of the class  
>>>>> to create the POJO object. In that case, iPOJO call this method  
>>>>> instead of the regular constructor when the creation of one  
>>>>> object is required.
>>>>> - public_factory allows you to set if the component type factory  
>>>>> is public or not. Public factories (the default) are exposed as  
>>>>> services (Factory, and ManagedServiceFactory) and allows the  
>>>>> creation of component instances from others bundles (either  
>>>>> declared inside a metadata.xml, or with the API).
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Clement
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>
>>
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[Vlatko Davidovski-2]

Thanks Clement!
Sound like a good intermediate solution.

Regards,
Vlatko

On Oct 12, 2009, at 7:11 PM, Clement Escoffier wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
>
> On 12.10.2009, at 18:36, Vlatko Davidovski wrote:
>
>> Clement,
>>
>> I basically want to have one bundle called the aparat-configurator  
>> - a centralized bundle for management of the different service  
>> configuration.
>> It is basically a proxy for the ConfigurationAdmin with the  
>> difference that it has 2 methods:
>> getCustomProperties(String pid) - gets the properties for a  
>> registered service from the configuration admin
>> gedDefaultProperties(String pid) - gets safe properties (can be  
>> used in case something goes wrong with the first one)
>>
>> Therefore, when I have:
>> @Component(architecture = true, immediate = true, propagation =  
>> true, managedservice =  
>> "ch
>> .ethz
>> .inf.vs.aparat.registry.osgi.services.DeviceRegistryServiceImpl")
>> @Provides
>> public class DeviceRegistryServiceImpl implements  
>> DeviceRegistryService {
>>
>> @Requires
>> private ConfiguratorService configuratorService;
>>
>> @ServiceProperty
>> private String databasePath;
>>
>> @Validate
>> public void start() {
>> Dictionary<String, String> properties =  
>> configuratorService.getCustomProperties(managedservice);
>> databasePath = properties.get("databasePath");
>>
>> try{
>> // Create db using custom properties
>> }
>> catch(Exception e) {
>> Dictionary<String, String> properties =  
>> configuratorService.getDefaultProperties(managedservice);
>> databasePath = properties.get("databasePath");
>>
>> // Create db using default properties
>> }
>>
>> And I need access to the managedservice property programmatically.
>
> Thanks fro these explanations. It is a very interesting use case.  
> Actually, the managed service is the only configuration parameter  
> non retrievable with 'architecture' !
>
> I'm filling a new Jira issue to support that (Felix-1741).
>
> For the time being, you can duplicate the name inside a  
> configuration property:
> @Component // No more need to set the managed service here, it will  
> be set in the instance configuration
> public class MyClass {
>
> @Property(name="managed.service.pid")
> String myManagedServicePID;
>  ...
> }
>
> Then, in the instance declaration you can add the property
> <instance component="...">
>    <property name="managed.service.pid" value="mymanagedservicepid"/>
> </instance>
>
>
> The managed service pid property will be used twice : 1) as the  
> managed service pid, 2) as property value (injected inside the  
> myManagedServicePID).
>
> Regards,
>
> Clement
>
>
>>
>> On Oct 12, 2009, at 5:55 PM, Clement Escoffier wrote:
>>
>>> BTW,
>>>
>>> if you just need to get access to your configuration,
>>> just use the @Property annotation:
>>>
>>>
>>> @Property
>>> private String myProperty;
>>>
>>> If the configuration admin contains a configuration for you, this  
>>> field will contain the value.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> clement
>>>
>>> On 12.10.2009, at 17:51, Clement Escoffier wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 12.10.2009, at 14:36, Vlatko Davidovski wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Clement!
>>>>>
>>>>> A small question.
>>>>> I still cannot find how to get the managedservice parameter from  
>>>>> the architecture.getInstanceDescription()
>>>>>
>>>>> Currently I have:
>>>>> @Component(architecture=true, immediate=true, propagation =  
>>>>> true,  
>>>>> managedservice
>>>>> =
>>>>> "ch
>>>>> .ethz
>>>>> .inf.vs.aparat.registry.osgi.services.DeviceRegistryServiceImpl")
>>>>> @Provides
>>>>> public class DeviceRegistryServiceImpl implements  
>>>>> DeviceRegistryService {
>>>>> .......
>>>>> @Requires
>>>>> private Architecture architecture;
>>>>>
>>>>> @Validate
>>>>> public void start() {
>>>>> ......
>>>>> // I need the managedservice value here
>>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> Can you explain me a little bit what's your architecture and goal ?
>>>>
>>>> ManagedService is a service. If enabled, iPOJO registers this  
>>>> service for you with the given PID, the instance.name and  
>>>> factory.name properties.
>>>>
>>>> So if you know the name of your instance or of your factory (be  
>>>> care if you create several component instance), you just need a  
>>>> service dependencies on the service.
>>>>
>>>> However, you should never directly access to the ManagedService  
>>>> which is a Configuration Admin service.
>>>>
>>>> If you need to get a configuration:
>>>> - either you push it in the instance declaration:
>>>> <instance component="...">
>>>> <property name="p" value="v"/>
>>>> </instance>
>>>> - or you create a ManagedServiceFactory configuration (using your  
>>>> component type name as ManagedServiceFactory PID.
>>>>
>>>> If you just need to reconfigure yourself, then, you just use the  
>>>> (direct) reconfigure method of the Factory service.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Clement
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 12, 2009, at 7:58 AM, Clement Escoffier wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12.10.2009, at 02:01, Vlatko Davidovski wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As I am new to iPojo, I have a couple of questions:
>>>>>>> 1. How to get the value of the annotated field managedservice  
>>>>>>> programmatically?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Architecture service can give you such information. If not  
>>>>>> disabled, every instance exposed an Architecture service  
>>>>>> allowing you to get the InstanceDescription. Thanks to that  
>>>>>> object you can check the current state of properties, provided  
>>>>>> services, dependencies...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. Does immediate attribute of service A mean that required  
>>>>>>> services (B & C) are monitored and as soon as they are  
>>>>>>> available, an instance of the service A is created?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Immediate means that, as soon as valid (i.e.e service  
>>>>>> dependencies resolved), a POJO instance will be created. It  
>>>>>> will not create a component instance, but it will create a  
>>>>>> component implementation class object.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3. What is the difference between @Property and  
>>>>>>> @ServiceProperty?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> @ServiceProperty are properties published with the provided  
>>>>>> services (if the instance publishes services).
>>>>>> @Property are internal properties which are not published with  
>>>>>> the provided services.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 4. What is the usage of the attributes architecture,  
>>>>>>> factory_method, public_factory of @Component?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - architecture allows you to disable the introspection service.  
>>>>>> The introspection is enabled by default.
>>>>>> - factory_method allows you to use a static method of the class  
>>>>>> to create the POJO object. In that case, iPOJO call this method  
>>>>>> instead of the regular constructor when the creation of one  
>>>>>> object is required.
>>>>>> - public_factory allows you to set if the component type  
>>>>>> factory is public or not. Public factories (the default) are  
>>>>>> exposed as services (Factory, and ManagedServiceFactory) and  
>>>>>> allows the creation of component instances from others bundles  
>>>>>> (either declared inside a metadata.xml, or with the API).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Clement
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>
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