A new orchestral pop-song from me

[Julien Claassen]

Hello to all of you!
   I've just finished a new song. If I should describe it, I'd say orchestral
or symphonic pop. Although the structure of it lacks the symphonic qualities.
:-)
   First of all the link:
http://juliencoder.de/moonlight.ogg
   Ahd this one is for the ogg-deficient :-)
http://juliencoder.de/moonlight.mp3
   The song was done in Nama, using a few of its new and exciting features. At
the moment it's still in testing stage, but as you can hear, it's coming along
very well. I used my usual bunch of sounds and effects. Only this time jconv
took part in it (the piano and the trumpets).
   The song is called "Moonlight Cinema", because I wanted to call it
"Moonlight music", then realised, that somehow it reminded me of a theatre or
musical tune, so I got to the cinema.
   As ever, feedback is welcome!
   Enjoy it and have a nice day
          Julien

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[Q-9]

I can't really offer anything really insightful to say, can't really
offer anything much beyond wow, that sounds really good and I enjoyed it.

There were a few points where I thought, "Oh dear, it's about to repeat
and drag on" but things took a sudden, interesting, turn in another
direction. I enjoyed the drumming (not that I am a drummer, it's just
something I often listen out for to try to improve my own programming --
it sounded interesting, natural and very well done to my untrained ear).

The only slight downside for me was that it's a little bit samey with
the piano being the lead instrument all the way through. The addition of
drums and the various symphonic elements add plenty of variety of
texture and timbre, but the lead is always the piano. There was a point
near the end were I felt it was crying out for a searing guitar solo
just for a little variety, along the lines of Andy Latimer -- tasteful,
melodic, symphonic even.

But yeah, wow. Thanks for sharing.

Q

Julien Claassen wrote:

> Hello to all of you!
>    I've just finished a new song. If I should describe it, I'd say orchestral
> or symphonic pop. Although the structure of it lacks the symphonic qualities.
> :-)
>    First of all the link:
> http://juliencoder.de/moonlight.ogg
>    Ahd this one is for the ogg-deficient :-)
> http://juliencoder.de/moonlight.mp3
>    The song was done in Nama, using a few of its new and exciting features. At
> the moment it's still in testing stage, but as you can hear, it's coming along
> very well. I used my usual bunch of sounds and effects. Only this time jconv
> took part in it (the piano and the trumpets).
>    The song is called "Moonlight Cinema", because I wanted to call it
> "Moonlight music", then realised, that somehow it reminded me of a theatre or
> musical tune, so I got to the cinema.
>    As ever, feedback is welcome!
>    Enjoy it and have a nice day
>           Julien
>
> --------
> Music was my first love and it will be my last (John Miles)
>
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[garry Ogle]

Julien Claassen wrote:

> Hello to all of you!
>    I've just finished a new song. If I should describe it, I'd say orchestral
> or symphonic pop. Although the structure of it lacks the symphonic qualities.
> :-)
>    First of all the link:
> http://juliencoder.de/moonlight.ogg
>    Ahd this one is for the ogg-deficient :-)
> http://juliencoder.de/moonlight.mp3
>    The song was done in Nama, using a few of its new and exciting features. At
> the moment it's still in testing stage, but as you can hear, it's coming along
> very well. I used my usual bunch of sounds and effects. Only this time jconv
> took part in it (the piano and the trumpets).
>    The song is called "Moonlight Cinema", because I wanted to call it
> "Moonlight music", then realised, that somehow it reminded me of a theatre or
> musical tune, so I got to the cinema.
>    As ever, feedback is welcome!
>    Enjoy it and have a nice day
>           Julien
>
> --------
> Music was my first love and it will be my last (John Miles)
>
> ======== FIND MY WEB-PROJECT AT: ========
> http://ltsb.sourceforge.net
> the Linux TextBased Studio guide
> ======= AND MY PERSONAL PAGES AT: =======
> http://www.juliencoder.de

Epic! Nice work, Julien, great sounds.
I can't agree with Q about it being "samey". There's a lot of dynamics
in there, which make it a very engaging piece: I think you transcended pop.
Best wishes, G.



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[Julien Claassen]

Hello Q!
   Yes, even I thought, that at certain points it sounded like it was going to
be boring. :-) Well about the piano, maybe, that would have been nice to
change the lead. But I didn't. :-) So I won't now. :-)
   Thanks for feeding me back. :-)
   Kindest regards
           Julien

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[Julien Claassen]

Hi Garry!
   Thanks for your kind words. It's like honey for the soul (or ego?). :-)
   I'm glad you could enjoy it!
   Warm regards
          Julien

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[Q-9]

> Epic! Nice work, Julien, great sounds.
> I can't agree with Q about it being "samey". There's a lot of dynamics
> in there, which make it a very engaging piece: I think you transcended pop.
> Best wishes, G.

Don't get me wrong, I thought there was plenty of variety and, as you
say, plenty of dynamics. I just thought it tended towards being samey
because it always went back to the piano -- something else to even just
share the driving force, however briefly, would have made it even better
in my view.

Q
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[garry Ogle]

Q wrote:

>> Epic! Nice work, Julien, great sounds.
>> I can't agree with Q about it being "samey". There's a lot of dynamics
>> in there, which make it a very engaging piece: I think you transcended pop.
>> Best wishes, G.
>
> Don't get me wrong, I thought there was plenty of variety and, as you
> say, plenty of dynamics. I just thought it tended towards being samey
> because it always went back to the piano -- something else to even just
> share the driving force, however briefly, would have made it even better
> in my view.
>
> Q

That's a fair point.


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[rosea]

Garry Ogle wrote:

> Q wrote:
>  
>>> Epic! Nice work, Julien, great sounds.
>>> I can't agree with Q about it being "samey". There's a lot of dynamics
>>> in there, which make it a very engaging piece: I think you transcended pop.
>>> Best wishes, G.
>>>      
>> Don't get me wrong, I thought there was plenty of variety and, as you
>> say, plenty of dynamics. I just thought it tended towards being samey
>> because it always went back to the piano -- something else to even just
>> share the driving force, however briefly, would have made it even better
>> in my view.
>>
>> Q
>>    
>
> That's a fair point.
>
>  

Amazing song.

One point of critique. The drum sounds doesn't fit totally in the song I
think. Do they have lower quality compared to the other instruments and
samples you use?

\r
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[Julien Claassen]

Hello Rosea!
   No the drum sound quality is fine. The weakest sound of the whole piece is
the string-sound. the drums are great. Probably owed to the mix. I have the
feeling the cymbals could have needed a bit of EQ to raise the high
frequencies, because the piano is so dominant there.
   Friendly regards
          Julien

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[Jörn Nettingsmeier-6]

On 10/26/2009 12:10 AM, rosea grammostola wrote:
>
> One point of critique. The drum sounds doesn't fit totally in the song I
> think. Do they have lower quality compared to the other instruments and
> samples you use?

can't listen atm (no headphones here), but: have you been listening to
the mp3 version? mp3 has this built-in feature to turn million-dollar
drum sounds into Competitively Priced Ones(tm)...

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[Julien Claassen]

Thanks Joern, I shold do that, I just made them and thought that's it. Should
have relied on mp3 to have the additional hidden feature. :-)
   Smilingly yours
         Julien

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[Jonathan Gazeley]

Hi Julien,

I really enjoyed this. Normally piano isn't my favourite instrument (I'm
a classical organist) but you are a talented pianist and I really
appreciated the symphonic accompaniment.

I will be sending this to some of my non-Linux musical friends!

Cheers,
Jonathan


On 10/25/2009 08:06 PM, Julien Claassen wrote:

> Hello to all of you!
>     I've just finished a new song. If I should describe it, I'd say orchestral
> or symphonic pop. Although the structure of it lacks the symphonic qualities.
> :-)
>     First of all the link:
> http://juliencoder.de/moonlight.ogg
>     Ahd this one is for the ogg-deficient :-)
> http://juliencoder.de/moonlight.mp3
>     The song was done in Nama, using a few of its new and exciting features. At
> the moment it's still in testing stage, but as you can hear, it's coming along
> very well. I used my usual bunch of sounds and effects. Only this time jconv
> took part in it (the piano and the trumpets).
>     The song is called "Moonlight Cinema", because I wanted to call it
> "Moonlight music", then realised, that somehow it reminded me of a theatre or
> musical tune, so I got to the cinema.
>     As ever, feedback is welcome!
>     Enjoy it and have a nice day
>            Julien
>
> --------
> Music was my first love and it will be my last (John Miles)
>
> ======== FIND MY WEB-PROJECT AT: ========
> http://ltsb.sourceforge.net
> the Linux TextBased Studio guide
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[Dave Phillips]

Julien Claassen wrote:
>    I've just finished a new song...

Beautiful work, Julien, one of your best yet. IMO the drums could be
punched up a bit at some points, e.g. about 4'20" in, but otherwise the
production is very fine indeed.

As always, thank you for sharing your work. More, please. :)

Best,

dp
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[rosea]

Julien Claassen wrote:
> I have the feeling the cymbals could have needed a bit of EQ to raise
> the high frequencies, because the piano is so dominant there.
Exactly, there is something with the cymbals. Especially one of them,
for example at the end of the song (don't know what is exaclty a cymbal
/ crash / hihat etc ;) )

The piano is pretty good, but maybe you could improve the dynamics. I
mean, the diference between load and soft is sometimes a bit to large
imho. And that doesn't sound fluent. But maybe that's the midi (keyboard).

But great song, no doubt.

\r

>   Friendly regards
>          Julien
>
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[Julien Claassen]

Hello Jonathan and Dave!
   Thank you both for the kind words. Nice to know, that finally I start to
succeed in my wish... :-)
   Warm regards
           Julien

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[Folderol]

On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 21:06:44 +0100 (CET)
Julien Claassen <julien@...> wrote:

> Hello to all of you!
>    I've just finished a new song. If I should describe it, I'd say orchestral
> or symphonic pop. Although the structure of it lacks the symphonic qualities.
> :-)
>    First of all the link:
> http://juliencoder.de/moonlight.ogg
>    Ahd this one is for the ogg-deficient :-)
> http://juliencoder.de/moonlight.mp3
>    The song was done in Nama, using a few of its new and exciting features. At
> the moment it's still in testing stage, but as you can hear, it's coming along
> very well. I used my usual bunch of sounds and effects. Only this time jconv
> took part in it (the piano and the trumpets).
>    The song is called "Moonlight Cinema", because I wanted to call it
> "Moonlight music", then realised, that somehow it reminded me of a theatre or
> musical tune, so I got to the cinema.
>    As ever, feedback is welcome!
>    Enjoy it and have a nice day
>           Julien
>
> --------
> Music was my first love and it will be my last (John Miles)

Finally had time to listen to this properly :)
I very much enjoyed the experience.

I can't speak on a technical level, but purely from a listening
view-point I can find nothing that I would want to hear changed. In
particular, I found the hugely expressive dynamics a refreshing change
from the what you hear on the radio these days - even in the supposedly
classical field.

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[ken restivo-3]

On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 09:06:44PM +0100, Julien Claassen wrote:

> Hello to all of you!
>    I've just finished a new song. If I should describe it, I'd say orchestral
> or symphonic pop. Although the structure of it lacks the symphonic qualities.
> :-)
>    First of all the link:
> http://juliencoder.de/moonlight.ogg
>    Ahd this one is for the ogg-deficient :-)
> http://juliencoder.de/moonlight.mp3
>    The song was done in Nama, using a few of its new and exciting features. At
> the moment it's still in testing stage, but as you can hear, it's coming along
> very well. I used my usual bunch of sounds and effects. Only this time jconv
> took part in it (the piano and the trumpets).
>    The song is called "Moonlight Cinema", because I wanted to call it
> "Moonlight music", then realised, that somehow it reminded me of a theatre or
> musical tune, so I got to the cinema.
>    As ever, feedback is welcome!
>    Enjoy it and have a nice day
>           Julien

Wow, very nice. Very cool chord progressions. I thought it was going to be a piano solo peice until the rest of the instruments joined in later on, it was a nice surprise. Well-thought-out composition; I liked it.

-ken
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[Jostein Chr. Andersen-3]

söndag oktober 25 2009 21.06.44 skrev  Julien Claassen:
...
>    As ever, feedback is welcome!

Well done Julien! Not only a nice melody, it's a great composition too! Good
mood and it's nice to here some dynamics again, thanks! :-)

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[Julien Claassen]

Thanks, Will, Ken and Jostein. It's very nice to find, that one's compositions
induce some happiness in other people.
   Thanks!
         Julien

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[hollunder]

On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 21:06:44 +0100 (CET)
Julien Claassen <julien@...> wrote:

> Hello to all of you!
>    I've just finished a new song. If I should describe it, I'd say
> orchestral or symphonic pop. Although the structure of it lacks the
> symphonic qualities. :-)
>    First of all the link:
> http://juliencoder.de/moonlight.ogg
>    Ahd this one is for the ogg-deficient :-)
> http://juliencoder.de/moonlight.mp3
>    The song was done in Nama, using a few of its new and exciting
> features. At the moment it's still in testing stage, but as you can
> hear, it's coming along very well. I used my usual bunch of sounds
> and effects. Only this time jconv took part in it (the piano and the
> trumpets). The song is called "Moonlight Cinema", because I wanted to
> call it "Moonlight music", then realised, that somehow it reminded me
> of a theatre or musical tune, so I got to the cinema.
>    As ever, feedback is welcome!
>    Enjoy it and have a nice day
>           Julien

So many people have answered by now, I'm sure you already know that this
is a very nice piece.
Personally I enjoy the beginning the most, piano only. This doesn't
mean the orchestration is bad, I think it's quite well done, but it's
such a nice sounding piece on it's own...

Regards,
Philipp
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