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A4D as scripting engine, no web server?
by Alexander Heintz
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Hi Aparajita,
would it be thinkable to have a "lite" Version of A4D to use as a scripting engine? It would only execute A4D text files from the execute file command and would not do any sessions, cokies, and all the other fance web server stuff, so it really could only be used to execute stand alone a4d files localy. This could then be used a a superb replacemnt for SRP, FootRunner and would facilitat the creation of truly great 4D aplications. At the same time it could offer you new marktet oportunities. What do you think? cheers, Alex _______________________________________________ Active4D-dev mailing list Active4D-dev@... http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ |
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Re: A4D as scripting engine, no web server?
by RandyJaynes
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Aparajita,
I like this idea too. SuperReport's scripting abilities have always been weak. While the graphical design interface is nice, it hasn't really been updated or improved in 10 years or so, and it's seriously showing its age. It's getting harder and harder to create complex reports with all the twists and turns you have to do in order to make it work. Having the A4D scripting ability to simply run on files would be pretty awesome. The scripting ability in A4D is second to none. And like Alex says, it can be a separate product. Thanks, Randy On Aug 18, 2009, at 10:20 AM, Alexander Heintz wrote: > Hi Aparajita, > > would it be thinkable to have a "lite" Version of A4D to use as a > scripting engine? > > It would only execute A4D text files from the execute file command > and would not do any sessions, cokies, and all the other fance web > server stuff, so it really could only be used to execute stand alone > a4d files localy. > > This could then be used a a superb replacemnt for SRP, FootRunner > and would facilitat the creation of truly great 4D aplications. > > At the same time it could offer you new marktet oportunities. > > What do you think? > > cheers, > > Alex > > _______________________________________________ > Active4D-dev mailing list > Active4D-dev@... > http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev > Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ _______________________________________________ Active4D-dev mailing list Active4D-dev@... http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ |
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Re: A4D as scripting engine, no web server?
by Michael Check
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Aparajita had a product like this that was essentially the A4D engine
with most of the HTML stuff stripped out. It does work well (I tried an alpha copy), but A4D does basically the same thing for us and we're already using it for web pages. I looked at using something like A4D to create a full reporting system, but it really doesn't compete with things like Crystal and Jasper reports. Yes, the idea of using CSS and HTML for the reports is not rocket science, but it is time consuming. A reporting IDE is much more efficient and you can design once, deliver many (screen, html, pdf, excel, text) While we use javascript (like EXT framework) to deliver some basic reports with web interfaces, more complex operations and deliveries are simply more efficiently done through a report IDE. Thanks, Michael Check On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Randy Jaynes<randy_jaynes@...> wrote: > Aparajita, > > I like this idea too. SuperReport's scripting abilities have always been > weak. > > While the graphical design interface is nice, it hasn't really been updated > or improved in 10 years or so, and it's seriously showing its age. It's > getting harder and harder to create complex reports with all the twists and > turns you have to do in order to make it work. > > Having the A4D scripting ability to simply run on files would be pretty > awesome. The scripting ability in A4D is second to none. > > And like Alex says, it can be a separate product. > > Thanks, > Randy > > On Aug 18, 2009, at 10:20 AM, Alexander Heintz wrote: > >> Hi Aparajita, >> >> would it be thinkable to have a "lite" Version of A4D to use as a >> scripting engine? >> >> It would only execute A4D text files from the execute file command and >> would not do any sessions, cokies, and all the other fance web server stuff, >> so it really could only be used to execute stand alone a4d files localy. >> >> This could then be used a a superb replacemnt for SRP, FootRunner and >> would facilitat the creation of truly great 4D aplications. >> >> At the same time it could offer you new marktet oportunities. >> >> What do you think? >> >> cheers, >> >> Alex >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Active4D-dev mailing list >> Active4D-dev@... >> http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev >> Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ > > _______________________________________________ > Active4D-dev mailing list > Active4D-dev@... > http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev > Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ > Active4D-dev mailing list Active4D-dev@... http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ |
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Re: A4D as scripting engine, no web server?
by Alexander Heintz
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I Undestand that, but what I need is a tool so I can create custom
reports for my clients ihtout havng to change the structure, simply by sending a single file. Crystal Reports, etc. are incerdible tools, but they require very skilled hands in order to preoduce usable results, and most of my users are far away from any of the skills required to use any kind of sophsticated reporting engine, internal or external. Most of them think the 4D report editor is far too complicated! So in my case A4D would be the perfect tool. Oh, and I charge for report programming :-) > Aparajita had a product like this that was essentially the A4D engine > with most of the HTML stuff stripped out. It does work well (I tried > an alpha copy), but A4D does basically the same thing for us and we're > already using it for web pages. > > I looked at using something like A4D to create a full reporting > system, but it really doesn't compete with things like Crystal and > Jasper reports. Yes, the idea of using CSS and HTML for the reports > is not rocket science, but it is time consuming. A reporting IDE is > much more efficient and you can design once, deliver many (screen, > html, pdf, excel, text) > > While we use javascript (like EXT framework) to deliver some basic > reports with web interfaces, more complex operations and deliveries > are simply more efficiently done through a report IDE. > > Thanks, > > Michael Check > > > > On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Randy Jaynes<randy_jaynes@... > > wrote: >> Aparajita, >> >> I like this idea too. SuperReport's scripting abilities have always >> been >> weak. >> >> While the graphical design interface is nice, it hasn't really been >> updated >> or improved in 10 years or so, and it's seriously showing its age. >> It's >> getting harder and harder to create complex reports with all the >> twists and >> turns you have to do in order to make it work. >> >> Having the A4D scripting ability to simply run on files would be >> pretty >> awesome. The scripting ability in A4D is second to none. >> >> And like Alex says, it can be a separate product. >> >> Thanks, >> Randy >> >> On Aug 18, 2009, at 10:20 AM, Alexander Heintz wrote: >> >>> Hi Aparajita, >>> >>> would it be thinkable to have a "lite" Version of A4D to use as a >>> scripting engine? >>> >>> It would only execute A4D text files from the execute file command >>> and >>> would not do any sessions, cokies, and all the other fance web >>> server stuff, >>> so it really could only be used to execute stand alone a4d files >>> localy. >>> >>> This could then be used a a superb replacemnt for SRP, FootRunner >>> and >>> would facilitat the creation of truly great 4D aplications. >>> >>> At the same time it could offer you new marktet oportunities. >>> >>> What do you think? >>> >>> cheers, >>> >>> Alex >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Active4D-dev mailing list >>> Active4D-dev@... >>> http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev >>> Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Active4D-dev mailing list >> Active4D-dev@... >> http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev >> Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ >> > _______________________________________________ > Active4D-dev mailing list > Active4D-dev@... > http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev > Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ _______________________________________________ Active4D-dev mailing list Active4D-dev@... http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ |
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Re: A4D as scripting engine, no web server?
by Mehboob Alam
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I'd second that.. PROCESS HTML TAGS is just still too primitive :)
sincerely, mehboob alam Electricity is actually made up of extremely tiny particles called electrons, that you cannot see with the naked eye unless you have been drinking. - Dave Barry ----- Original Message ---- From: Alexander Heintz <listreader@...> To: active4d-dev@... Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 10:20:48 AM Subject: [Active4d-dev] A4D as scripting engine, no web server? Hi Aparajita, would it be thinkable to have a "lite" Version of A4D to use as a scripting engine? It would only execute A4D text files from the execute file command and would not do any sessions, cokies, and all the other fance web server stuff, so it really could only be used to execute stand alone a4d files localy. This could then be used a a superb replacemnt for SRP, FootRunner and would facilitat the creation of truly great 4D aplications. At the same time it could offer you new marktet oportunities. What do you think? cheers, Alex _______________________________________________ Active4D-dev mailing list Active4D-dev@... http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ _______________________________________________ Active4D-dev mailing list Active4D-dev@... http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ |
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Re: A4D as scripting engine, no web server?
by Mehboob Alam
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Anyone considered using the Web Area in v11 as a report display/preview tool?
sincerely, mehboob alam Electricity is actually made up of extremely tiny particles called electrons, that you cannot see with the naked eye unless you have been drinking. - Dave Barry ----- Original Message ---- From: Alexander Heintz <listreader@...> To: active4d-dev@... Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 2:48:04 PM Subject: Re: [Active4d-dev] A4D as scripting engine, no web server? I Undestand that, but what I need is a tool so I can create custom reports for my clients ihtout havng to change the structure, simply by sending a single file. Crystal Reports, etc. are incerdible tools, but they require very skilled hands in order to preoduce usable results, and most of my users are far away from any of the skills required to use any kind of sophsticated reporting engine, internal or external. Most of them think the 4D report editor is far too complicated! So in my case A4D would be the perfect tool. Oh, and I charge for report programming :-) > Aparajita had a product like this that was essentially the A4D engine > with most of the HTML stuff stripped out. It does work well (I tried > an alpha copy), but A4D does basically the same thing for us and we're > already using it for web pages. > > I looked at using something like A4D to create a full reporting > system, but it really doesn't compete with things like Crystal and > Jasper reports. Yes, the idea of using CSS and HTML for the reports > is not rocket science, but it is time consuming. A reporting IDE is > much more efficient and you can design once, deliver many (screen, > html, pdf, excel, text) > > While we use javascript (like EXT framework) to deliver some basic > reports with web interfaces, more complex operations and deliveries > are simply more efficiently done through a report IDE. > > Thanks, > > Michael Check > > > > On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Randy Jaynes<randy_jaynes@...> wrote: >> Aparajita, >> >> I like this idea too. SuperReport's scripting abilities have always been >> weak. >> >> While the graphical design interface is nice, it hasn't really been updated >> or improved in 10 years or so, and it's seriously showing its age. It's >> getting harder and harder to create complex reports with all the twists and >> turns you have to do in order to make it work. >> >> Having the A4D scripting ability to simply run on files would be pretty >> awesome. The scripting ability in A4D is second to none. >> >> And like Alex says, it can be a separate product. >> >> Thanks, >> Randy >> >> On Aug 18, 2009, at 10:20 AM, Alexander Heintz wrote: >> >>> Hi Aparajita, >>> >>> would it be thinkable to have a "lite" Version of A4D to use as a >>> scripting engine? >>> >>> It would only execute A4D text files from the execute file command and >>> would not do any sessions, cokies, and all the other fance web server stuff, >>> so it really could only be used to execute stand alone a4d files localy. >>> >>> This could then be used a a superb replacemnt for SRP, FootRunner and >>> would facilitat the creation of truly great 4D aplications. >>> >>> At the same time it could offer you new marktet oportunities. >>> >>> What do you think? >>> >>> cheers, >>> >>> Alex >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Active4D-dev mailing list >>> Active4D-dev@... >>> http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev >>> Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Active4D-dev mailing list >> Active4D-dev@... >> http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev >> Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ >> > _______________________________________________ > Active4D-dev mailing list > Active4D-dev@... > http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev > Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ _______________________________________________ Active4D-dev mailing list Active4D-dev@... http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ _______________________________________________ Active4D-dev mailing list Active4D-dev@... http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ |
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Re: A4D as scripting engine, no web server?
by B. Perkins
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No, but that is an interesting idea.
Does the web area have any Javascript or CSS limitations? For example, how well would it output an advanced ExtJS generated grid? What about Flash content? Can the web area be printed? -- Brad Perkins Mehboob Alam wrote: > Anyone considered using the Web Area in v11 as a report display/preview tool? > > sincerely, > mehboob alam > > > > > Electricity is actually made up of extremely tiny particles called electrons, > that you cannot see with the naked eye unless you have been drinking. > - Dave Barry > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Alexander Heintz <listreader@...> > To: active4d-dev@... > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 2:48:04 PM > Subject: Re: [Active4d-dev] A4D as scripting engine, no web server? > > I Undestand that, but what I need is a tool so I can create custom reports for my clients ihtout havng to change the structure, simply by sending a single file. > Crystal Reports, etc. are incerdible tools, but they require very skilled hands in order to preoduce usable results, and most of my users are far away from any of the skills required to use any kind of sophsticated reporting engine, internal or external. > Most of them think the 4D report editor is far too complicated! > So in my case A4D would be the perfect tool. > Oh, and I charge for report programming :-) > > >> Aparajita had a product like this that was essentially the A4D engine >> with most of the HTML stuff stripped out. It does work well (I tried >> an alpha copy), but A4D does basically the same thing for us and we're >> already using it for web pages. >> >> I looked at using something like A4D to create a full reporting >> system, but it really doesn't compete with things like Crystal and >> Jasper reports. Yes, the idea of using CSS and HTML for the reports >> is not rocket science, but it is time consuming. A reporting IDE is >> much more efficient and you can design once, deliver many (screen, >> html, pdf, excel, text) >> >> While we use javascript (like EXT framework) to deliver some basic >> reports with web interfaces, more complex operations and deliveries >> are simply more efficiently done through a report IDE. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Michael Check >> >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Randy Jaynes<randy_jaynes@...> wrote: >> >>> Aparajita, >>> >>> I like this idea too. SuperReport's scripting abilities have always been >>> weak. >>> >>> While the graphical design interface is nice, it hasn't really been updated >>> or improved in 10 years or so, and it's seriously showing its age. It's >>> getting harder and harder to create complex reports with all the twists and >>> turns you have to do in order to make it work. >>> >>> Having the A4D scripting ability to simply run on files would be pretty >>> awesome. The scripting ability in A4D is second to none. >>> >>> And like Alex says, it can be a separate product. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Randy >>> >>> On Aug 18, 2009, at 10:20 AM, Alexander Heintz wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Hi Aparajita, >>>> >>>> would it be thinkable to have a "lite" Version of A4D to use as a >>>> scripting engine? >>>> >>>> It would only execute A4D text files from the execute file command and >>>> would not do any sessions, cokies, and all the other fance web server stuff, >>>> so it really could only be used to execute stand alone a4d files localy. >>>> >>>> This could then be used a a superb replacemnt for SRP, FootRunner and >>>> would facilitat the creation of truly great 4D aplications. >>>> >>>> At the same time it could offer you new marktet oportunities. >>>> >>>> What do you think? >>>> >>>> cheers, >>>> >>>> Alex >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Active4D-dev mailing list >>>> Active4D-dev@... >>>> http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev >>>> Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Active4D-dev mailing list >>> Active4D-dev@... >>> http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev >>> Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Active4D-dev mailing list >> Active4D-dev@... >> http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev >> Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ >> > > _______________________________________________ > Active4D-dev mailing list > Active4D-dev@... > http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev > Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Active4D-dev mailing list > Active4D-dev@... > http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev > Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ > > _______________________________________________ Active4D-dev mailing list Active4D-dev@... http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ |
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Re: A4D as scripting engine, no web server?
by Alexander Heintz
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> No, but that is an interesting idea.
It actually is an excelent idea! > Does the web area have any Javascript or CSS limitations? No, as it uses WebKit on Mac or IE on Windows, so only these browsers restrictions apply > For example, how well would it output an advanced ExtJS generated > grid? Just fine > What about Flash content? If it works n the browser, it should work here... > Can the web area be printed? Not any more (In the old LiveWindows PlugIn you could return a Picture of the web page, that was somehow dropped in V11) Although you can execute JavaScript on the page, so ma celling the print command from javascript... Will have to try that one :-) Cheers, Alex > > -- Brad Perkins > > Mehboob Alam wrote: >> Anyone considered using the Web Area in v11 as a report display/ >> preview tool? >> >> sincerely, >> mehboob alam >> >> >> >> >> Electricity is actually made up of extremely tiny particles called >> electrons, >> that you cannot see with the naked eye unless you have been drinking. >> - Dave Barry >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: Alexander Heintz <listreader@...> >> To: active4d-dev@... >> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 2:48:04 PM >> Subject: Re: [Active4d-dev] A4D as scripting engine, no web server? >> >> I Undestand that, but what I need is a tool so I can create custom >> reports for my clients ihtout havng to change the structure, simply >> by sending a single file. >> Crystal Reports, etc. are incerdible tools, but they require very >> skilled hands in order to preoduce usable results, and most of my >> users are far away from any of the skills required to use any kind >> of sophsticated reporting engine, internal or external. >> Most of them think the 4D report editor is far too complicated! >> So in my case A4D would be the perfect tool. >> Oh, and I charge for report programming :-) >> >> >>> Aparajita had a product like this that was essentially the A4D >>> engine >>> with most of the HTML stuff stripped out. It does work well (I >>> tried >>> an alpha copy), but A4D does basically the same thing for us and >>> we're >>> already using it for web pages. >>> >>> I looked at using something like A4D to create a full reporting >>> system, but it really doesn't compete with things like Crystal and >>> Jasper reports. Yes, the idea of using CSS and HTML for the reports >>> is not rocket science, but it is time consuming. A reporting IDE is >>> much more efficient and you can design once, deliver many (screen, >>> html, pdf, excel, text) >>> >>> While we use javascript (like EXT framework) to deliver some basic >>> reports with web interfaces, more complex operations and deliveries >>> are simply more efficiently done through a report IDE. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Michael Check >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Randy Jaynes<randy_jaynes@... >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> Aparajita, >>>> >>>> I like this idea too. SuperReport's scripting abilities have >>>> always been >>>> weak. >>>> >>>> While the graphical design interface is nice, it hasn't really >>>> been updated >>>> or improved in 10 years or so, and it's seriously showing its >>>> age. It's >>>> getting harder and harder to create complex reports with all the >>>> twists and >>>> turns you have to do in order to make it work. >>>> >>>> Having the A4D scripting ability to simply run on files would be >>>> pretty >>>> awesome. The scripting ability in A4D is second to none. >>>> >>>> And like Alex says, it can be a separate product. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Randy >>>> >>>> On Aug 18, 2009, at 10:20 AM, Alexander Heintz wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi Aparajita, >>>>> >>>>> would it be thinkable to have a "lite" Version of A4D to use as a >>>>> scripting engine? >>>>> >>>>> It would only execute A4D text files from the execute file >>>>> command and >>>>> would not do any sessions, cokies, and all the other fance web >>>>> server stuff, >>>>> so it really could only be used to execute stand alone a4d files >>>>> localy. >>>>> >>>>> This could then be used a a superb replacemnt for SRP, >>>>> FootRunner and >>>>> would facilitat the creation of truly great 4D aplications. >>>>> >>>>> At the same time it could offer you new marktet oportunities. >>>>> >>>>> What do you think? >>>>> >>>>> cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Alex >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Active4D-dev mailing list >>>>> Active4D-dev@... >>>>> http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev >>>>> Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Active4D-dev mailing list >>>> Active4D-dev@... >>>> http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev >>>> Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Active4D-dev mailing list >>> Active4D-dev@... >>> http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev >>> Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Active4D-dev mailing list >> Active4D-dev@... >> http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev >> Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Active4D-dev mailing list >> Active4D-dev@... >> http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev >> Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Active4D-dev mailing list > Active4D-dev@... > http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev > Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ _______________________________________________ Active4D-dev mailing list Active4D-dev@... http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ |
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Re: A4D as scripting engine, no web server?
by Mehboob Alam
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Printing is the single missing functionality in the Web Area.. this capability was added to the LiveWindow plugin in the last release.
So, for now, since I'm still stuck in v2004, I broke down and ordered the Web 2.0 Pack, and will wait till the printing functionality is added to v11. (if ever, since now there's v12 on the horizon) As for limitations, the Web Area automatically uses the underlying native "web engine", which underfortunately under Windows means that it could be IE6, IE7 or IE8, with no way to control it. I'd like to see a separate functionality that just uses WebKit on both platforms, but that may not be likely, as it potentially may have the same problems as the first release of LiveWindow, which was based on the Mozilla render engine. That said, WebKit is by default the most compatible "renderer" out there, so I hope someone has the same idea :) sincerely, mehboob alam Electricity is actually made up of extremely tiny particles called electrons, that you cannot see with the naked eye unless you have been drinking. - Dave Barry ----- Original Message ---- From: Alexander Heintz <listreader@...> To: active4d-dev@... Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 6:23:29 PM Subject: Re: [Active4d-dev] A4D as scripting engine, no web server? > No, but that is an interesting idea. It actually is an excelent idea! > Does the web area have any Javascript or CSS limitations? No, as it uses WebKit on Mac or IE on Windows, so only these browsers restrictions apply > For example, how well would it output an advanced ExtJS generated grid? Just fine > What about Flash content? If it works n the browser, it should work here... > Can the web area be printed? Not any more (In the old LiveWindows PlugIn you could return a Picture of the web page, that was somehow dropped in V11) Although you can execute JavaScript on the page, so ma celling the print command from javascript... Will have to try that one :-) Cheers, Alex > > -- Brad Perkins > > Mehboob Alam wrote: >> Anyone considered using the Web Area in v11 as a report display/preview tool? >> >> sincerely, >> mehboob alam >> >> >> >> >> Electricity is actually made up of extremely tiny particles called electrons, >> that you cannot see with the naked eye unless you have been drinking. >> - Dave Barry >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: Alexander Heintz <listreader@...> >> To: active4d-dev@... >> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 2:48:04 PM >> Subject: Re: [Active4d-dev] A4D as scripting engine, no web server? >> >> I Undestand that, but what I need is a tool so I can create custom reports for my clients ihtout havng to change the structure, simply by sending a single file. >> Crystal Reports, etc. are incerdible tools, but they require very skilled hands in order to preoduce usable results, and most of my users are far away from any of the skills required to use any kind of sophsticated reporting engine, internal or external. >> Most of them think the 4D report editor is far too complicated! >> So in my case A4D would be the perfect tool. >> Oh, and I charge for report programming :-) >> >> >>> Aparajita had a product like this that was essentially the A4D engine >>> with most of the HTML stuff stripped out. It does work well (I tried >>> an alpha copy), but A4D does basically the same thing for us and we're >>> already using it for web pages. >>> >>> I looked at using something like A4D to create a full reporting >>> system, but it really doesn't compete with things like Crystal and >>> Jasper reports. Yes, the idea of using CSS and HTML for the reports >>> is not rocket science, but it is time consuming. A reporting IDE is >>> much more efficient and you can design once, deliver many (screen, >>> html, pdf, excel, text) >>> >>> While we use javascript (like EXT framework) to deliver some basic >>> reports with web interfaces, more complex operations and deliveries >>> are simply more efficiently done through a report IDE. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Michael Check >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Randy Jaynes<randy_jaynes@...> wrote: >>> >>>> Aparajita, >>>> >>>> I like this idea too. SuperReport's scripting abilities have always been >>>> weak. >>>> >>>> While the graphical design interface is nice, it hasn't really been updated >>>> or improved in 10 years or so, and it's seriously showing its age. It's >>>> getting harder and harder to create complex reports with all the twists and >>>> turns you have to do in order to make it work. >>>> >>>> Having the A4D scripting ability to simply run on files would be pretty >>>> awesome. The scripting ability in A4D is second to none. >>>> >>>> And like Alex says, it can be a separate product. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Randy >>>> >>>> On Aug 18, 2009, at 10:20 AM, Alexander Heintz wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi Aparajita, >>>>> >>>>> would it be thinkable to have a "lite" Version of A4D to use as a >>>>> scripting engine? >>>>> >>>>> It would only execute A4D text files from the execute file command and >>>>> would not do any sessions, cokies, and all the other fance web server stuff, >>>>> so it really could only be used to execute stand alone a4d files localy. >>>>> >>>>> This could then be used a a superb replacemnt for SRP, FootRunner and >>>>> would facilitat the creation of truly great 4D aplications. >>>>> >>>>> At the same time it could offer you new marktet oportunities. >>>>> >>>>> What do you think? >>>>> >>>>> cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Alex >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Active4D-dev mailing list >>>>> Active4D-dev@... >>>>> http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev >>>>> Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Active4D-dev mailing list >>>> Active4D-dev@... >>>> http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev >>>> Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Active4D-dev mailing list >>> Active4D-dev@... >>> http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev >>> Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Active4D-dev mailing list >> Active4D-dev@... >> http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev >> Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Active4D-dev mailing list >> Active4D-dev@... >> http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev >> Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Active4D-dev mailing list > Active4D-dev@... > http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev > Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ _______________________________________________ Active4D-dev mailing list Active4D-dev@... http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ _______________________________________________ Active4D-dev mailing list Active4D-dev@... http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ |
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