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Re: Expiry of AIDA sessions

2009-09-29T07:37:55Z

Hi Janko,

JM> Another thing are guest/anonymous sessions. On a site like
JM> http://www.squeak.org we cleanup every hour those inactive more than an
JM> hour, mostly to handle Denial of service attacks well. But this never
JM> produces the same effect as on Pier, because we always use REST-full
JM> urls. Guest sessions are also always in "read-only" mode while for
JM> editing you need to be logged in. And as I said, those sessions never
JM> expire.
thanks, that's good news!

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Re: Expiry of AIDA sessions

2009-09-29T03:24:22Z

Hi Herbert,

Herbert König pravi:

> I just had a bugging experience with a pier based website:
>
> I was away for about an hour and clicking on a link got me an error
> because the session had expired.
>
> I can't reproduce in my own apps. (I can't accept this, because my
> pages are applications to the end user and session expiry would mean
> data loss)
>
> So the question is:
> How is session expiry controlled in AIDA?

> I know I could circumvent this by placing a periodic updater of e.g.
> 10 minutes on every view, but I'd like to know anyway.

In Aida a session never expires. What we do usually during the night is
an application state cleanup, which could in certain circumstances cause
the same effect as session expiry on Seaside. But even that can be
avoided with careful App design if needed. I never needed yet, so no
problem.

Another thing are guest/anonymous sessions. On a site like
http://www.squeak.org we cleanup every hour those inactive more than an
hour, mostly to handle Denial of service attacks well. But this never
produces the same effect as on Pier, because we always use REST-full
urls. Guest sessions are also always in "read-only" mode while for
editing you need to be logged in. And as I said, those sessions never
expire.

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Expiry of AIDA sessions

2009-09-29T03:09:11Z

Hi,

I just had a bugging experience with a pier based website:

I was away for about an hour and clicking on a link got me an error
because the session had expired.

I can't reproduce in my own apps. (I can't accept this, because my
pages are applications to the end user and session expiry would mean
data loss)

So the question is:
How is session expiry controlled in AIDA?

I know I could circumvent this by placing a periodic updater of e.g. 10
minutes on every view, but I'd like to know anyway.

Thanks,

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Re: Tutorial feedback

2009-09-28T07:57:46Z

Hi Alex,

Alex Schenkman pravi:

> I've been going through the Tutorial to learn AIDA.
> Thanks a lot for it. I like it very much.

Nice to hear that, welcome to the Aida world!

> I have some comments to improve the tutorial.
>
> 1) The instance variable name is used by Object. Change it to firstName.

I just did that, changet to fristName and lastName accoringly. I just
hope that I didn't miss the rename somewhere. Would you recheck please?

> Object subclass: #'ADemoAddress'
> instanceVariableNames: 'parent *name* surname phone email '
>
> classVariableNames: ''
> poolDictionaries: ''
> category: 'Aidaweb-Tutorial'
>
> 2) Make a reference to changeToPreferedURL:, otherwise PreferedUrl does not work.

#preferedUrl works if you implement it before you link to those objects
for a first time. Later, yes you need to reregister with
#changeToPreferedURL:

I just added a short comment to explain that better

Thanks a lot for your sugestions and we are waiting for more :)

Best regards
Janko

> I did:
>
> book := ADemoAddressBook new.
> aSite := AIDASite named: 'aidademo'.
> ...
>
> "Update the cached preferedURL definition for all the persons"
> book addresses do: [:addr | aSite urlResolver changeToPreferedURL: addr].
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Tutorial feedback

2009-09-28T00:32:52Z

Hello AIDA-list:

I've been going through the Tutorial to learn AIDA.

Thanks a lot for it. I like it very much.

I have some comments to improve the tutorial.

1) The instance variable name is used by Object. Change it to firstName.

 Object subclass: #'ADemoAddress'
        instanceVariableNames: 'parent name surname phone email '

        classVariableNames: ''
	poolDictionaries: ''
        category: 'Aidaweb-Tutorial'

2) Make a reference to changeToPreferedURL:, otherwise PreferedUrl does not work.

I did:

book := ADemoAddressBook new.

aSite := AIDASite named: 'aidademo'.

...

"Update the cached preferedURL definition for all the persons"
book addresses do: [:addr | aSite urlResolver changeToPreferedURL: addr].

Thank you!

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WebGrid performance fix

2009-09-21T04:32:14Z

Dear all,

I just solved that bug in WebGrid, which degraded a WebGrid buildup
sometimes quite extentialy . WebGrid namely did filtering always, even
that there were nothing inserted in filter fields.

Fix is as follows:

Add new method:

WebGridColumn>>isFilterEntered
"filter criteria is entered"
^self filter notNil and: [self filter trimBlanks notEmpty].

Change method:

WebGrid>>filterRows
| columnsToFilter |
columnsToFilter := self columns select: [:each | each isFilterEntered].
...

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Re: Latex output

2009-09-14T13:57:56Z

Hi Alex,

Alex Schenkman pravi:

> We meet at ESUG, we sat on the same table in the boat.
> I'm attaching a picture so you remember me easier.

I remember you well :) And sorry for a bit late answer.

> How would you convert text from within Aida or Scribo into LaTex?
> I want to produce a nice article-like PDF, like the ones pdflatex produces.

Maybe with some HTML to LaTex converter? Then you trick Aida to store
generated HTML to some external file which you then convert with that
external converter.

Have a nice time
Janko

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Re: [AidaWeb]( picoVerse-:( A problem with the AidaWeb tutorial with the Dolphin version of AidaWeb ) )

2009-09-14T07:18:44Z

Hi all,

I'm currently developing an application which I want to add web interface
with AIDA 6. I will port AIDA 6 to Dolphin but I have no time table, I think
I will start at the end of this year.

In the long term AIDA 6 will run on DNG, but NO time table. The port of AIDA
6 to Dolphin 6.1 will start at the end of this year.

This is what I offer for now.

Regards,
Bruno

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Subject: Re: [aida] [AidaWeb]( picoVerse-:( A problem with the AidaWeb
tutorial with the Dolphin version of AidaWeb ) )

Kjell Godo pravi:

> I just downloaded the Damien webdevelopment images of Squeak and the
> standard Squeak 3.10 for Windows package.
>
> I searched for >>pageFrameWith:title: in the Damien image
>
> in there but still couldn't find it. So this was a big puzzle but then I
found
>>> doesNotUnderstand:
> which forwards the messages to the style. I also found this in Dolphin
AidaWeb.
>
> So are you going away from the >>doesNotUnderstand: way
> in the new version? ( I just saw the compiler warning in Dolphin
> but I did not actually try the demo code out. So I guess it probably
> works. The tutorial probably works. I haven't tried it. It just causes
> a compiler warning in Dolphin. )

Yep, no DNU way of delegation to WebStyle because it was confusing to
use and specially debug, as you did observer by yourself. Se the
explicit self style pageFrameWith: is now mandatory. As Herber aready
suggested, in older Aida versions just add 'style' to that last line.

Best regards
Janko

>
> 2009/9/13 Janko Mivšek <janko.mivsek@...>:
>> Hi Kjell,
>>
>> First welcome to the list! About the tutorial, yes, we forget to upgrade
>> it for Aida 6.0. I just did that upgrade and all needed is to change the
>> last line in every view method:
>>
>> self style pageFrameWith:title:
>>
>> In 6.0 there is an explicit delegation to the so called style class
>> (DefaultWebStyle in default case) which holds everything from layout (as
>> #pageFrameWith: is for) to CSS, images, also JavaScript etc.
>>
>> Hope this helps
>> Janko
>>
>> Kjell Godo pravi:
>>> Hello
>>>
>>> The following code from the tutorial at:
>>> http://www.aidaweb.si/tutorial.html
>>>
>>> doesn't work:
>>>
>>> viewMain
>>> | e |
>>> e := WebElement new.
>>> e addTextH1: 'Address book'.
>>> self pageFrameWith: e title: 'Address book'
>>>
>>> because WebApplication>>pageFrameWith:title:
>>>
>>> does not exist. Please tell me how to fix this.
>>>
>>> Also: Does anyone know how to port non GUI
>>> generic Dolphin Smalltalk code over to Squeak?
>>> Is there an easy automated way to do it? And visa versa
>>> from Squeak to Dolphin?

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Job seeking Aida experience

2009-09-14T04:45:15Z

Is a sign of maturity of some product when jobs are announced searching
an experience for it? :) If so, we just experienced that moment:

Web Developer, - Nottinghamshire- £30, 000 - £40,000

An experience Web Developer is required to join a market leading
organistation in Nottinghamshire.

The role involves developing new green field web applications within a
busy team and liaising directly with stakeholders to develop web
applications using both new and existing code.

You must have substantial experience with both Object Orientated and Web
programming languages.

You will have experience with both front end (browser side) and back end
(server side) development. Experience with languages like Python, Ruby,
or Smalltalk is required. Experience with C# or Java would also be
advantageous. Commercial experience with Seaside and Aidaweb frameworks
would be extremely attractive for this role.

The successful candidate with have either first class honours degree or
a 2.1 degree in Computer Science or a related discipline, and have at
least 2 years commercial experience, ideally within an engineering
organization.

Please apply with your CV asap for immediate interviews.

Location East Midlands, East Midlands
Job type Permanent
Contract length Permanent
Salary/rate £30000 - £40000/annum
Start date ASAP

http://www.cv-library.co.uk/cgi-bin/jdb_view_vacancy.cgi?rss=1&jobref=113398420&s=100218

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Re: ( picoVerse-:( What I want to do with AidaWeb ) )

2009-09-14T03:14:35Z

Hi Kjell,

Kjell Godo pravi:

> Is it possible for AidaWeb to act like a client in a connectionless
> client server setup?

We just started an Aida Offline project, as you can see from a separate
post :) To support offline Gmail-like apps...

> I would like to use AidaWeb as an html based extention of the
> Dolphin Graphical User Interface.

Then you can simply add Aida to the local image where your app is, then
connect from browser as http://localhost... ?
>
> I would like to make a Dolphin based client server system where
> small binary blobs of data are exchanged via a raw socket.
> It might be highly connection oriented or it might be connectionless.
> I don't know which is better.
>
> What is a good way to make a client server setup using Dolphin?

You need kind of inter-image communication in that case. HTTP protocol
could be used, Swazoo as a server on server side, some HTPClient lib on
the client one. For the server to client communication you use so called
reverse HTTP approach, usually used in Comet.

> I want to make an online "extreme programming" system based on
> picoLARC( sourceforge.net ) and Smalltalk etc for educational
> purposes.
>
> One of the educational projects might be making websites using
> AidaWeb. Since picoLARC is a superset of Smalltalk mostly
> this aught to be doable.
>
> picoLARC LambdaLisp is not fast right now but it can delegate
> mostly to Dolphin. ( at:put: anArray 1 anObject ) in picoLARC
> is equivalent to ( anArray at: 1 put: anObject ) in Smalltalk.

This your project is quite interesting. Unfortunatelly I don't know much
about Lisp or Prolog but I can imagine the benefits you achieved. Good work!

Best regards
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Re: [AidaWeb]( picoVerse-:( A problem with the AidaWeb tutorial with the Dolphin version of AidaWeb ) )

2009-09-14T03:03:19Z

Kjell Godo pravi:

> I just downloaded the Damien webdevelopment images of Squeak and the
> standard Squeak 3.10 for Windows package.
>
> I searched for >>pageFrameWith:title: in the Damien image
>
> in there but still couldn't find it. So this was a big puzzle but then I found
>>> doesNotUnderstand:
> which forwards the messages to the style. I also found this in Dolphin AidaWeb.
>
> So are you going away from the >>doesNotUnderstand: way
> in the new version? ( I just saw the compiler warning in Dolphin
> but I did not actually try the demo code out. So I guess it probably
> works. The tutorial probably works. I haven't tried it. It just causes
> a compiler warning in Dolphin. )

Yep, no DNU way of delegation to WebStyle because it was confusing to
use and specially debug, as you did observer by yourself. Se the
explicit self style pageFrameWith: is now mandatory. As Herber aready
suggested, in older Aida versions just add 'style' to that last line.

Best regards
Janko

Re: [AidaWeb]( picoVerse-:( A problem with the AidaWeb tutorial with the Dolphin version of AidaWeb ) )

2009-09-14T02:50:17Z

Herbert König pravi:

> KG> I am using the Dolphin version that I downloaded yesterday or so.
> I see how the >>>doesNotUnderstand: is forwarding the messages
> KG> to the style. It is doing it in Dolphin too. I didn't see any version
> KG> numbers in the Dolphin version.
>
> sorry I know nothing about Dolphin, except the port is not up to date.
> But sending the message to Style directly should work in older and
> younger versions.
>
> So if it still doesn't work, please make sure the site is running
> SwazooAida demoStart and registered
> (AIDASite named: 'aidademo') urlResolver defaultURL: '/addressbook.html' forObject: book

I just checked: There is Aida 5.0 from 2006 on Dolphin and it obviously
needs an upgrade. Which can be done if someone from Dolphin community
promises to maintain the port. Kjell, would you be willing to take that
role?

To port the latest 6.0 to Dolphin can be easy, because Swazoo 2.2 is
recently ported during the latest Seaside port.

All needed is to move Aida code to Dolphin and adapt methods which have
"Squeak specific" or "VW specific" in comments. The most complex part
are so called "climbing on the stack" methods, which get references to
current request or session from a stack using thisContext pseudo variable.

But this was done on previous Dolphin port already, so it won't be hard
to adapt to current version as well.

Best regards
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Offline web app support

2009-09-14T02:35:54Z

Dear all,

I'd like to start a new project for supporting Aida web applications in
offline mode, without connection to the Aida server. This is needed for
a planned commercial project next year, so we have some time to think
about how to approach the problem with common Aida goals in mind: a
simple general solution for as many real problems as possible.

For an introduction to the offline web apps please read this post about
Dojo Offline Toolkit:

http://www.sitepen.com/blog/2007/01/02/the-dojo-offline-toolkit/

This toolkit sits on top of Google Gears, a browser plugin to enable the
local storage and other, which seems most interesting to use for us too:

http://tools.google.com/gears/

Any ideas, wishes, examples of real Aida apps are welcome!

Best regards
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Re: ( picoVerse-:( AidaWeb vs Seaside ) )

2009-09-14T01:01:43Z

Hi Kjell,

KG> Is it true that Seaside doesn't do Model View Presenter?

you'd better ask this the seasiders. I tried their tutorial and found
it much less familiar than Aida which I tried later. At least seaside
does not advertise MVC/P.

KG> What is the reason why AidaWeb exists?

Aida was used commercially and then donated to the community. The real
reply can only come from Janko here :-))

KG> I guess Ajax and Comet make it quicker to update web pages?

Ajax is built in so you can use AidaWeb without noticing you use Ajax.
Comet is a Pattern in Aida, this was discussed here and can be found
in the archives.

There is work in progress to make it even quicker because I need web
applications to be as quick as local GUI applications.

Cheers,

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Re: [AidaWeb]( picoVerse-:( A problem with the AidaWeb tutorial with the Dolphin version of AidaWeb ) )

2009-09-13T23:21:13Z

Hi Kjell,

KG> I am using the Dolphin version that I downloaded yesterday or so.
I see how the >>>doesNotUnderstand: is forwarding the messages
KG> to the style. It is doing it in Dolphin too. I didn't see any version
KG> numbers in the Dolphin version.

sorry I know nothing about Dolphin, except the port is not up to date.
But sending the message to Style directly should work in older and
younger versions.

So if it still doesn't work, please make sure the site is running
SwazooAida demoStart and registered
(AIDASite named: 'aidademo') urlResolver defaultURL: '/addressbook.html' forObject: book

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( picoVerse-:( What I want to do with AidaWeb ) )

2009-09-13T12:34:15Z

Hello

Is it possible for AidaWeb to act like a client in a connectionless
client server setup?

I would like to use AidaWeb as an html based extention of the
Dolphin Graphical User Interface.

I would like to make a Dolphin based client server system where
small binary blobs of data are exchanged via a raw socket.
It might be highly connection oriented or it might be connectionless.
I don't know which is better.

What is a good way to make a client server setup using Dolphin?

I want to make an online "extreme programming" system based on
picoLARC( sourceforge.net ) and Smalltalk etc for educational
purposes.

One of the educational projects might be making websites using
AidaWeb. Since picoLARC is a superset of Smalltalk mostly
this aught to be doable.

picoLARC LambdaLisp is not fast right now but it can delegate
mostly to Dolphin. ( at:put: anArray 1 anObject ) in picoLARC
is equivalent to ( anArray at: 1 put: anObject ) in Smalltalk.
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( picoVerse-:( AidaWeb vs Seaside ) )

2009-09-13T11:53:01Z

Is it true that Seaside doesn't do Model View Presenter?

I like Model View Presenter( controller ).

What is the reason why AidaWeb exists?

I have read that in Seaside it is easier to reuse web components
by composition of Objects. I like reuse.

I guess Ajax and Comet make it quicker to update web pages?

Also Seaside has an online book. I really like the online book.
But this mailing list seems quite responsive too.

The reason I chose AidaWeb is because the Seaside for Dolphin
was not available a few days ago when I checked.
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Re: [AidaWeb]( picoVerse-:( A problem with the AidaWeb tutorial with the Dolphin version of AidaWeb ) )

2009-09-13T11:40:52Z

I am using the Dolphin version that I downloaded yesterday or so.
I see how the >>doesNotUnderstand: is forwarding the messages
to the style. It is doing it in Dolphin too. I didn't see any version
numbers in the Dolphin version.

2009/9/13 Herbert König <herbertkoenig@...>:

> Hi Kjell,
>
>
> KG> The following code from the tutorial at:
> KG> http://www.aidaweb.si/tutorial.html
>
>
> KG>     viewMain
> KG> | e |
> KG>         e := WebElement new.
> KG>         e addTextH1: 'Address book'.
> KG>         self pageFrameWith: e title: 'Address book'
>
> In older versions (sure about 5.6) this would work because
> WebApplication would use DNU to redirect this to WebStyle.
>
> So you might try
>
> self style pageFrameWith: e title: 'Address book'
>
> Otherwise you might have forgotten to register the app like.
>
> (AIDASite named: 'aidademo') urlResolver defaultURL:
>
> I write this from memory, so no warranties.
>
> Please tell us which versions you use.
>
> Cheers,
>
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Re: [AidaWeb]( picoVerse-:( A problem with the AidaWeb tutorial with the Dolphin version of AidaWeb ) )

2009-09-13T11:33:42Z

Hello Janko

I just downloaded the Damien webdevelopment images of Squeak and the
standard Squeak 3.10 for Windows package.

I searched for >>pageFrameWith:title: in the Damien image

in there but still couldn't find it. So this was a big puzzle but then I found
>>doesNotUnderstand:
which forwards the messages to the style. I also found this in Dolphin AidaWeb.

So are you going away from the >>doesNotUnderstand: way
in the new version? ( I just saw the compiler warning in Dolphin
but I did not actually try the demo code out. So I guess it probably
works. The tutorial probably works. I haven't tried it. It just causes
a compiler warning in Dolphin. )

2009/9/13 Janko Mivšek <janko.mivsek@...>:

> Hi Kjell,
>
> First welcome to the list! About the tutorial, yes, we forget to upgrade
> it for Aida 6.0. I just did that upgrade and all needed is to change the
> last line in every view method:
>
> self style pageFrameWith:title:
>
> In 6.0 there is an explicit delegation to the so called style class
> (DefaultWebStyle in default case) which holds everything from layout (as
> #pageFrameWith: is for) to CSS, images, also JavaScript etc.
>
> Hope this helps
> Janko
>
> Kjell Godo pravi:
>> Hello
>>
>> The following code from the tutorial at:
>> http://www.aidaweb.si/tutorial.html
>>
>> doesn't work:
>>
>> viewMain
>> | e |
>> e := WebElement new.
>> e addTextH1: 'Address book'.
>> self pageFrameWith: e title: 'Address book'
>>
>> because WebApplication>>pageFrameWith:title:
>>
>> does not exist. Please tell me how to fix this.
>>
>> Also: Does anyone know how to port non GUI
>> generic Dolphin Smalltalk code over to Squeak?
>> Is there an easy automated way to do it? And visa versa
>> from Squeak to Dolphin?
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
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Re: [AidaWeb]( picoVerse-:( A problem with the AidaWeb tutorial with the Dolphin version of AidaWeb ) )

2009-09-13T11:13:18Z

Hi Kjell,

First welcome to the list! About the tutorial, yes, we forget to upgrade
it for Aida 6.0. I just did that upgrade and all needed is to change the
last line in every view method:

self style pageFrameWith:title:

In 6.0 there is an explicit delegation to the so called style class
(DefaultWebStyle in default case) which holds everything from layout (as
#pageFrameWith: is for) to CSS, images, also JavaScript etc.

Hope this helps
Janko

Kjell Godo pravi:

> Hello
>
> The following code from the tutorial at:
> http://www.aidaweb.si/tutorial.html
>
> doesn't work:
>
> viewMain
> | e |
> e := WebElement new.
> e addTextH1: 'Address book'.
> self pageFrameWith: e title: 'Address book'
>
> because WebApplication>>pageFrameWith:title:
>
> does not exist. Please tell me how to fix this.
>
> Also: Does anyone know how to port non GUI
> generic Dolphin Smalltalk code over to Squeak?
> Is there an easy automated way to do it? And visa versa
> from Squeak to Dolphin?
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Re: [AidaWeb]( picoVerse-:( A problem with the AidaWeb tutorial with the Dolphin version of AidaWeb ) )

2009-09-13T11:12:01Z

Hi Kjell,

KG> The following code from the tutorial at:
KG> http://www.aidaweb.si/tutorial.html

KG>     viewMain
KG> | e |
KG>         e := WebElement new.
KG>         e addTextH1: 'Address book'.
KG>         self pageFrameWith: e title: 'Address book'

In older versions (sure about 5.6) this would work because
WebApplication would use DNU to redirect this to WebStyle.

So you might try

self style pageFrameWith: e title: 'Address book'

Otherwise you might have forgotten to register the app like.

(AIDASite named: 'aidademo') urlResolver defaultURL:

I write this from memory, so no warranties.

Please tell us which versions you use.

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[AidaWeb]( picoVerse-:( A problem with the AidaWeb tutorial with the Dolphin version of AidaWeb ) )

2009-09-13T10:16:19Z

Hello

The following code from the tutorial at:
http://www.aidaweb.si/tutorial.html

doesn't work:

    viewMain
| e |
        e := WebElement new.
        e addTextH1: 'Address book'.
        self pageFrameWith: e title: 'Address book'

because WebApplication>>pageFrameWith:title:

does not exist. Please tell me how to fix this.

Also: Does anyone know how to port non GUI
generic Dolphin Smalltalk code over to Squeak?
Is there an easy automated way to do it? And visa versa
from Squeak to Dolphin?
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Latex output

2009-09-10T15:29:04Z

Hi Janko!

We meet at ESUG, we sat on the same table in the boat.

I'm attaching a picture so you remember me easier.

How would you convert text from within Aida or Scribo into LaTex?

I want to produce a nice article-like PDF, like the ones pdflatex produces.

Thanks in advance!

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One-clicks for ESUG Aida tutorial

2009-09-01T01:12:25Z

Hello everyone,

For those who will attend Thursday's Aida tutorial on
ESUG, there are preinstalled one-clicks and images with
Aida and Scribo for Squeak, Pharo and VisualWorks, so I'd
like to ask you to install them in advance. More on
tutorial page:
http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2009/Current+List+of+Talks/Aida+tutorial

Thanks and apologies to others for spamming the lists with
that note.

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Re: Bug fixed Vesion of AIDAcharts

2009-08-30T11:56:55Z

Thanks Herbert.

� wrote:

Hi Nicholas,


NM> Where did you upload it to?

http://mc.bioskop.fr is the SqueakSource installation where you can
get it via the web interface.

Navigate to projects, AIDAcharts, latest.

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Re: Bug fixed Vesion of AIDAcharts

2009-08-30T07:00:07Z

Hi Nicholas,

NM> Where did you upload it to?

http://mc.bioskop.fr is the SqueakSource installation where you can
get it via the web interface.

Navigate to projects, AIDAcharts, latest.

Cheers,

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Re: Bug fixed Vesion of AIDAcharts

2009-08-30T03:39:39Z

Hi Herbert,

Where did you upload it to?

Nicholas

� wrote:

Hi,

i just uploaded a version of AIDAcharts which fixes a bug in
protochart JavaScript library.

The bug prevented axis labels of 0 to be drawn as null, 0.0 undefined
NaN all equal false in JavaScript.


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Bug fixed Vesion of AIDAcharts

2009-08-30T03:27:28Z

Hi,

i just uploaded a version of AIDAcharts which fixes a bug in
protochart JavaScript library.

The bug prevented axis labels of 0 to be drawn as null, 0.0 undefined
NaN all equal false in JavaScript.

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Re: [ANN] Aida/Web 6.0 with tree-like control flow released

2009-08-26T16:48:17Z

Are you going to announce it on the Weekly Squeak and squeak.org?

Rob

2009/8/26 Janko Mivšek <janko.mivsek@...>

Thanks Nicholas, well, working but enjoying :)

Janko

Nicholas Moore pravi:

> Well done Janko,
>
> Looks like you have been working hard this summer!
>
> I will upgrade my sites and let you know how it goes.
>
> Regards
>
> Nicholas
>
> Janko Mivšek wrote:
>> Dear Smalltalkers,
>>
>> After a long journey the Aida 6.0 web framework and application server
>> is released today on Squeak, Pharo and VisualWorks.
>>
>> To download it visit our website http://www.aidaweb.si and its download
>> section. Come also on ESUG Aida tutorial next Thursday to get a feel of
>> all new features.
>>
>> Major new features since previous 5.6:
>>
>> 1.Tree-like control flow (see WebDemoApp control flow examples) as
>> the final step to close gap to the support of all kinds of web
>> applications from those with an usual graph-like navigation to
>> those with a tree-like control flow as found in GUI-like web apps.
>>
>> 2.Introduction of web execution contexts . These contexts give a
>> scope to the "execution" of web request and are the precondition
>> for controlling this flow of execution.
>>
>> 3.Translation support for text on the web apps, to allow the
>> multilingual text on the pages, besides multilingual content,
>>
>> 4.Caching (memcached like) to improve performance of serving the
>> content, which otherwise doesn't change frequently.
>>
>> About tree-like control flow in action with a help of the attached
>> image: in Aida action method you want to confirm a delete by asking the
>> user with a popup dialog window. Execution is there interrupted until
>> the YES or NO button is pressed on dialog. At that time the execution of
>> action method continue and delete is done if YES button was pressed.
>>
>> Best regards
>> Janko Mivšek
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [ANN] Aida/Web 6.0 with tree-like control flow released

2009-08-26T14:23:29Z

Thanks Nicholas, well, working but enjoying :)

Janko

Nicholas Moore pravi:

> Well done Janko,
>
> Looks like you have been working hard this summer!
>
> I will upgrade my sites and let you know how it goes.
>
> Regards
>
> Nicholas
>
> Janko Mivšek wrote:
>> Dear Smalltalkers,
>>
>> After a long journey the Aida 6.0 web framework and application server
>> is released today on Squeak, Pharo and VisualWorks.
>>
>> To download it visit our website http://www.aidaweb.si and its download
>> section. Come also on ESUG Aida tutorial next Thursday to get a feel of
>> all new features.
>>
>> Major new features since previous 5.6:
>>
>> 1.Tree-like control flow (see WebDemoApp control flow examples) as
>> the final step to close gap to the support of all kinds of web
>> applications from those with an usual graph-like navigation to
>> those with a tree-like control flow as found in GUI-like web apps.
>>
>> 2.Introduction of web execution contexts . These contexts give a
>> scope to the "execution" of web request and are the precondition
>> for controlling this flow of execution.
>>
>> 3.Translation support for text on the web apps, to allow the
>> multilingual text on the pages, besides multilingual content,
>>
>> 4.Caching (memcached like) to improve performance of serving the
>> content, which otherwise doesn't change frequently.
>>
>> About tree-like control flow in action with a help of the attached
>> image: in Aida action method you want to confirm a delete by asking the
>> user with a popup dialog window. Execution is there interrupted until
>> the YES or NO button is pressed on dialog. At that time the execution of
>> action method continue and delete is done if YES button was pressed.
>>
>> Best regards
>> Janko Mivšek
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://lists.aidaweb.si/mailman/listinfo/aida
>>
>
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>
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>
>
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Re: [ANN] Aida/Web 6.0 with tree-like control flow released

2009-08-26T13:50:40Z

Well done Janko,

Looks like you have been working hard this summer!

I will upgrade my sites and let you know how it goes.

Regards

Nicholas

Janko Mivšek wrote:

Dear Smalltalkers,

After a long journey the Aida 6.0 web framework and application server
is released today on Squeak, Pharo and VisualWorks.

To download it visit our website http://www.aidaweb.si and its download
section. Come also on ESUG Aida tutorial next Thursday to get a feel of
all new features.

Major new features since previous 5.6:

   1.Tree-like control flow (see WebDemoApp control flow examples) as
     the final step to close gap to the support of all kinds of web
     applications from those with an usual graph-like navigation to
     those with a tree-like control flow as found in GUI-like web apps.

   2.Introduction of web execution contexts . These contexts give a
     scope to the "execution" of web request and are the precondition
     for controlling this flow of execution.

   3.Translation support for text on the web apps, to allow the
     multilingual text on the pages, besides multilingual content,

   4.Caching (memcached like) to improve performance of serving the
     content, which otherwise doesn't change frequently.

About tree-like control flow in action with a help of the attached
image: in Aida action method you want to confirm a delete by asking the
user with a popup dialog window. Execution is there interrupted until
the YES or NO button is pressed on dialog. At that time the execution of
action method continue and delete is done if YES button was pressed.

Best regards
Janko Mivšek


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[ANN] Aida/Web 6.0 with tree-like control flow released

2009-08-26T13:09:44Z

Dear Smalltalkers,

After a long journey the Aida 6.0 web framework and application server
is released today on Squeak, Pharo and VisualWorks.

To download it visit our website http://www.aidaweb.si and its download
section. Come also on ESUG Aida tutorial next Thursday to get a feel of
all new features.

Major new features since previous 5.6:

1.Tree-like control flow (see WebDemoApp control flow examples) as
the final step to close gap to the support of all kinds of web
applications from those with an usual graph-like navigation to
those with a tree-like control flow as found in GUI-like web apps.

2.Introduction of web execution contexts . These contexts give a
scope to the "execution" of web request and are the precondition
for controlling this flow of execution.

3.Translation support for text on the web apps, to allow the
multilingual text on the pages, besides multilingual content,

4.Caching (memcached like) to improve performance of serving the
content, which otherwise doesn't change frequently.

About tree-like control flow in action with a help of the attached
image: in Aida action method you want to confirm a delete by asking the
user with a popup dialog window. Execution is there interrupted until
the YES or NO button is pressed on dialog. At that time the execution of
action method continue and delete is done if YES button was pressed.

Best regards
Janko Mivšek

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Re: Tree-like control flow works!

2009-08-23T12:09:32Z

Hi Jarda,

I have your work (and Nico's Iliad) in mind while working on recent Aida
and I hope we have now a good base for implementing your ideas on top of
it. This is then a step to do for Aida 6.1 :) Or 6.2, 6.1 will probably
be a maintenance release.

Best regards
Janko

Jaroslav Havlín pravi:

> Great news. Thank you!
>
> Best regards,
> Jarda
>
>
> 2009/8/22 Janko Mivšek <janko.mivsek@...>:
>> Thanks Rob for nice words. Well, Aida and such R&D work is also my
>> pleasure :)
>>
>> Janko
>>
>> Rob Rothwell pravi:
>>> Congratulations on your perseverance and accomplishment!
>>>
>>> Take care,
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
>>> 2009/8/22 Janko Mivšek <janko.mivsek@...
>>> <mailto:janko.mivsek@...>>
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> Finally I'm glad to announce that tree-like control flow just started to
>>> work in Aida! See attached image for code example and browser snapshot
>>> of the basic example of such control flow.
>>>
>>> In short: in action method you want to confirm a delete by asking user
>>> with a popup dialog window. Execution is there interrupted until the YES
>>> or NO button is pressed on dialog. At that time the execution of action
>>> method continue and delete is done if YES button was pressed.
>>>
>>> Now let me do this thing more robust, then I'll release it. Aida 6.0 is
>>> therefore on the way in few days!
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>> Janko
>>>
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Re: Tree-like control flow works!

2009-08-23T11:17:46Z

Great news. Thank you!

Best regards,
Jarda

2009/8/22 Janko Mivšek <janko.mivsek@...>:

> Thanks Rob for nice words. Well, Aida and such R&D work is also my
> pleasure :)
>
> Janko
>
> Rob Rothwell pravi:
>> Congratulations on your perseverance and accomplishment!
>>
>> Take care,
>>
>> Rob
>>
>> 2009/8/22 Janko Mivšek <janko.mivsek@...
>> <mailto:janko.mivsek@...>>
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Finally I'm glad to announce that tree-like control flow just started to
>> work in Aida! See attached image for code example and browser snapshot
>> of the basic example of such control flow.
>>
>> In short: in action method you want to confirm a delete by asking user
>> with a popup dialog window. Execution is there interrupted until the YES
>> or NO button is pressed on dialog. At that time the execution of action
>> method continue and delete is done if YES button was pressed.
>>
>> Now let me do this thing more robust, then I'll release it. Aida 6.0 is
>> therefore on the way in few days!
>>
>> Best regards
>> Janko
>>
>
> --
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> AIDA/Web
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> http://www.aidaweb.si
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Re: Tree-like control flow works!

2009-08-22T13:11:43Z

Thanks Rob for nice words. Well, Aida and such R&D work is also my
pleasure :)

Janko

Rob Rothwell pravi:

> Congratulations on your perseverance and accomplishment!
>
> Take care,
>
> Rob
>
> 2009/8/22 Janko Mivšek <janko.mivsek@...
> <mailto:janko.mivsek@...>>
>
> Dear all,
>
> Finally I'm glad to announce that tree-like control flow just started to
> work in Aida! See attached image for code example and browser snapshot
> of the basic example of such control flow.
>
> In short: in action method you want to confirm a delete by asking user
> with a popup dialog window. Execution is there interrupted until the YES
> or NO button is pressed on dialog. At that time the execution of action
> method continue and delete is done if YES button was pressed.
>
> Now let me do this thing more robust, then I'll release it. Aida 6.0 is
> therefore on the way in few days!
>
> Best regards
> Janko
>