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AIML IP protection?
by Amir Michail
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Does AIML have any IP protection? Or can AIML be used for commercial purposes without limitation? Amir _______________________________________________ This is the alicebot-general mailing list Reply to alicebot-general@... Unsubscribe and change preferences at http://list.alicebot.org/mailman/listinfo/alicebot-general Learn netiquette at http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html Learn to read at http://www.literacy.org/ |
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Re: AIML IP protection?
by Kootstra
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AIML is a scripting language that can be used under the provisions of the
GNU Public Licence. This licence permits Commercial usage but with some rules on acknowledgement of the inclusion. Kind regards, Anne. -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: alicebot-general-bounces@... [mailto:alicebot-general-bounces@...] Namens Amir Michail Verzonden: woensdag 30 april 2008 4:04 Aan: Alicebot and AIML General Discussion Onderwerp: [alicebot-general] AIML IP protection? Hi, Does AIML have any IP protection? Or can AIML be used for commercial purposes without limitation? Amir _______________________________________________ This is the alicebot-general mailing list Reply to alicebot-general@... Unsubscribe and change preferences at http://list.alicebot.org/mailman/listinfo/alicebot-general Learn netiquette at http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html Learn to read at http://www.literacy.org/ _______________________________________________ This is the alicebot-general mailing list Reply to alicebot-general@... Unsubscribe and change preferences at http://list.alicebot.org/mailman/listinfo/alicebot-general Learn netiquette at http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html Learn to read at http://www.literacy.org/ |
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Re: AIML IP protection?
by Amir Michail
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On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 4:54 AM, A. Kootstra <anne@...> wrote:
> AIML is a scripting language that can be used under the provisions of the > GNU Public Licence. This licence permits Commercial usage but with some > rules on acknowledgement of the inclusion. > > Kind regards, > > Anne. > But what if someone were to implement AIML from scratch from the AIML spec. Are there any IP issues then? That is, does AIML itself have any IP protection or only its implementation? Amir > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: alicebot-general-bounces@... > [mailto:alicebot-general-bounces@...] Namens Amir Michail > Verzonden: woensdag 30 april 2008 4:04 > Aan: Alicebot and AIML General Discussion > Onderwerp: [alicebot-general] AIML IP protection? > > > > Hi, > > Does AIML have any IP protection? Or can AIML be used for commercial > purposes without limitation? > > Amir > _______________________________________________ > This is the alicebot-general mailing list > Reply to alicebot-general@... > Unsubscribe and change preferences at > http://list.alicebot.org/mailman/listinfo/alicebot-general > Learn netiquette at http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html > Learn to read at http://www.literacy.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > This is the alicebot-general mailing list > Reply to alicebot-general@... > Unsubscribe and change preferences at http://list.alicebot.org/mailman/listinfo/alicebot-general > Learn netiquette at http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html > Learn to read at http://www.literacy.org/ > This is the alicebot-general mailing list Reply to alicebot-general@... Unsubscribe and change preferences at http://list.alicebot.org/mailman/listinfo/alicebot-general Learn netiquette at http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html Learn to read at http://www.literacy.org/ |
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Re: AIML IP protection?
by drwallace
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It has been done many times, e.g. Program D, Program E, Program N,
Progam R, Pandorabots... On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 6:17 AM, Amir Michail <amichail@...> wrote: > On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 4:54 AM, A. Kootstra <anne@...> wrote: > > AIML is a scripting language that can be used under the provisions of the > > GNU Public Licence. This licence permits Commercial usage but with some > > rules on acknowledgement of the inclusion. > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Anne. > > > > But what if someone were to implement AIML from scratch from the AIML > spec. Are there any IP issues then? That is, does AIML itself have > any IP protection or only its implementation? > > Amir > > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > > Van: alicebot-general-bounces@... > > [mailto:alicebot-general-bounces@...] Namens Amir Michail > > Verzonden: woensdag 30 april 2008 4:04 > > Aan: Alicebot and AIML General Discussion > > Onderwerp: [alicebot-general] AIML IP protection? > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > Does AIML have any IP protection? Or can AIML be used for commercial > > purposes without limitation? > > > > Amir > > _______________________________________________ > > This is the alicebot-general mailing list > > Reply to alicebot-general@... > > Unsubscribe and change preferences at > > http://list.alicebot.org/mailman/listinfo/alicebot-general > > Learn netiquette at http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html > > Learn to read at http://www.literacy.org/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > This is the alicebot-general mailing list > > Reply to alicebot-general@... > > Unsubscribe and change preferences at http://list.alicebot.org/mailman/listinfo/alicebot-general > > Learn netiquette at http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html > > Learn to read at http://www.literacy.org/ > > > _______________________________________________ > This is the alicebot-general mailing list > Reply to alicebot-general@... > Unsubscribe and change preferences at http://list.alicebot.org/mailman/listinfo/alicebot-general > Learn netiquette at http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html > Learn to read at http://www.literacy.org/ > This is the alicebot-general mailing list Reply to alicebot-general@... Unsubscribe and change preferences at http://list.alicebot.org/mailman/listinfo/alicebot-general Learn netiquette at http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html Learn to read at http://www.literacy.org/ |
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Re: AIML IP protection?
by Kootstra
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In the event that you are designing and programming a new AIML
interpretation engine completely from scratch then I think - emphasis on this word - you will be free to do with the code of your engine as you please. I.e. distribute it under any licence you wish. That said, I am no Intellectual Property lawyer and I can give you no guarantees on this. The concept of AIML is protected under the GPL, which you would be able to recognize in a Help file and by supplying a copy of the GNU Public Licence. If you plan on making a living out of distributing this engine to other parties then you may want to consult an IP lawyer for this. The investment you make here will be worth it. Now, the topic of GPL has come across a couple of times and when you look in the archives you will find a large number of posts. Keep in mind that these posts will refer to version 2 of this licence. Kind regards, Anne. -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: alicebot-general-bounces@... [mailto:alicebot-general-bounces@...] Namens Amir Michail Verzonden: woensdag 30 april 2008 15:18 Aan: Alicebot and AIML General Discussion Onderwerp: Re: [alicebot-general] AIML IP protection? On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 4:54 AM, A. Kootstra <anne@...> wrote: > AIML is a scripting language that can be used under the provisions of the > GNU Public Licence. This licence permits Commercial usage but with some > rules on acknowledgement of the inclusion. > > Kind regards, > > Anne. > But what if someone were to implement AIML from scratch from the AIML spec. Are there any IP issues then? That is, does AIML itself have any IP protection or only its implementation? Amir > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: alicebot-general-bounces@... > [mailto:alicebot-general-bounces@...] Namens Amir Michail > Verzonden: woensdag 30 april 2008 4:04 > Aan: Alicebot and AIML General Discussion > Onderwerp: [alicebot-general] AIML IP protection? > > > > Hi, > > Does AIML have any IP protection? Or can AIML be used for commercial > purposes without limitation? > > Amir > _______________________________________________ > This is the alicebot-general mailing list > Reply to alicebot-general@... > Unsubscribe and change preferences at > http://list.alicebot.org/mailman/listinfo/alicebot-general > Learn netiquette at http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html > Learn to read at http://www.literacy.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > This is the alicebot-general mailing list > Reply to alicebot-general@... > Unsubscribe and change preferences at > Learn netiquette at http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html > Learn to read at http://www.literacy.org/ > _______________________________________________ This is the alicebot-general mailing list Reply to alicebot-general@... Unsubscribe and change preferences at http://list.alicebot.org/mailman/listinfo/alicebot-general Learn netiquette at http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html Learn to read at http://www.literacy.org/ _______________________________________________ This is the alicebot-general mailing list Reply to alicebot-general@... Unsubscribe and change preferences at http://list.alicebot.org/mailman/listinfo/alicebot-general Learn netiquette at http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html Learn to read at http://www.literacy.org/ |
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Re: AIML IP protection?
by Kim Sullivan
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In the past years, I've became more and more interested in software licenses
and software patents - but I should still mention that I am not a lawyer. Generally, I think that saying that "AIML is GPLed" is not really appropriate, because the GPL is only applicable to software - a concrete implementation. The -idea- of AIML as a language and the algorithms used probably aren't even licensable - patentable at most (and if there were some patents associated with AIML, which to my best knowledge are none, then you could license the right to implement those patents). What is licensable are the various implementations (like Program D, Pandorabots...) and each program has it's own license (but nothing prevents you to write your own). What is also licensable is the text of the specification itself - but very probably not using the GPL (whose terms are applicable only to sofware), but more likely something like the GFDL or Creative Commons - but again this only applies to the text of the specification, not to the ideas contained therein (unless they are patended, which they aren't). So, to sum it up - AIML is not protected by any patents (in fact, the ALICE AI Foundation is more or less opposed to software patents, see http://www.alicebot.org/patents.html ), and I don't even think that the AIML acronym or "alicebot" are registered trademarks. So, even though the GPL isn't IMHO aplicable to the specification, AIML is for all practical purposes unencumbered by any intellectual property rights. Regards, Kim _______________________________________________ This is the alicebot-general mailing list Reply to alicebot-general@... Unsubscribe and change preferences at http://list.alicebot.org/mailman/listinfo/alicebot-general Learn netiquette at http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html Learn to read at http://www.literacy.org/ |
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Re: AIML IP protection?
by Amir Michail
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Hi,
Incidentally, this is what I am working on: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=168974 I probably won't reimplement AIML. I'm using Google query syntax. But of course, the AIML documentation contains lots of helpful ideas. Amir On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 3:20 PM, Kim Sullivan <alicebot@...> wrote: > In the past years, I've became more and more interested in software licenses > and software patents - but I should still mention that I am not a lawyer. > > Generally, I think that saying that "AIML is GPLed" is not really > appropriate, because the GPL is only applicable to software - a concrete > implementation. The -idea- of AIML as a language and the algorithms used > probably aren't even licensable - patentable at most (and if there were some > patents associated with AIML, which to my best knowledge are none, then you > could license the right to implement those patents). > > What is licensable are the various implementations (like Program D, > Pandorabots...) and each program has it's own license (but nothing prevents > you to write your own). What is also licensable is the text of the > specification itself - but very probably not using the GPL (whose terms are > applicable only to sofware), but more likely something like the GFDL or > Creative Commons - but again this only applies to the text of the > specification, not to the ideas contained therein (unless they are patended, > which they aren't). > > So, to sum it up - AIML is not protected by any patents (in fact, the ALICE > AI Foundation is more or less opposed to software patents, see > http://www.alicebot.org/patents.html ), and I don't even think that the AIML > acronym or "alicebot" are registered trademarks. So, even though the GPL > isn't IMHO aplicable to the specification, AIML is for all practical > purposes unencumbered by any intellectual property rights. > > Regards, > Kim > > > > _______________________________________________ > This is the alicebot-general mailing list > Reply to alicebot-general@... > Unsubscribe and change preferences at http://list.alicebot.org/mailman/listinfo/alicebot-general > Learn netiquette at http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html > Learn to read at http://www.literacy.org/ > This is the alicebot-general mailing list Reply to alicebot-general@... Unsubscribe and change preferences at http://list.alicebot.org/mailman/listinfo/alicebot-general Learn netiquette at http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html Learn to read at http://www.literacy.org/ |
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Re: AIML IP protection?
by Kim Sullivan
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Actually, it turns out that I've been wrong with regards to licensing a
specification - the Flash formats have been licensed in such a way, that anyone could write a program that generated swf files, but implementing a player was restricted. Not that this applies to the AIML specification. I still have a lot to learn :-( Kim _______________________________________________ This is the alicebot-general mailing list Reply to alicebot-general@... Unsubscribe and change preferences at http://list.alicebot.org/mailman/listinfo/alicebot-general Learn netiquette at http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html Learn to read at http://www.literacy.org/ |
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