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by xanadont :: Rate this Message:

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Hello All,

I'm a long time Windows ASP.NET developer and have one Mono + ASP.NET
eCommerce site under my belt.  I'm considering using MVC on my next
endeavor (I have no experience using it yet) and am wondering if Mono
supports it.  If so, is there any documentation on it?

Thanks.
-Abe
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Re: ASP.NET MVC

by Gonzalo Paniagua Javier-5 :: Rate this Message:

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On Thu, 2008-11-20 at 22:52 -0500, Abe Gillespie wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I'm a long time Windows ASP.NET developer and have one Mono + ASP.NET
> eCommerce site under my belt.  I'm considering using MVC on my next
> endeavor (I have no experience using it yet) and am wondering if Mono
> supports it.  If so, is there any documentation on it?
>

ASP.NET MVC should be done by June 2009:
http://www.mono-project.com/Roadmap

-Gonzalo



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Re: ASP.NET MVC

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OK, thank you, all.

On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 11:47 PM, Gonzalo Paniagua Javier
<gonzalo.mono@...> wrote:

> On Thu, 2008-11-20 at 22:52 -0500, Abe Gillespie wrote:
>> Hello All,
>>
>> I'm a long time Windows ASP.NET developer and have one Mono + ASP.NET
>> eCommerce site under my belt.  I'm considering using MVC on my next
>> endeavor (I have no experience using it yet) and am wondering if Mono
>> supports it.  If so, is there any documentation on it?
>>
>
> ASP.NET MVC should be done by June 2009:
> http://www.mono-project.com/Roadmap
>
> -Gonzalo
>
>
>
>
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Re: ASP.NET MVC

by Atsushi Eno :: Rate this Message:

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Since MVC is a moving target, you should not really rely on that
schedule. We won't release or even might not start MVC stuff until
it gets out on .NET side.

Atsushi Eno

Abe Gillespie wrote:

> OK, thank you, all.
>
> On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 11:47 PM, Gonzalo Paniagua Javier
> <gonzalo.mono@...> wrote:
>> On Thu, 2008-11-20 at 22:52 -0500, Abe Gillespie wrote:
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> I'm a long time Windows ASP.NET developer and have one Mono + ASP.NET
>>> eCommerce site under my belt.  I'm considering using MVC on my next
>>> endeavor (I have no experience using it yet) and am wondering if Mono
>>> supports it.  If so, is there any documentation on it?
>>>
>> ASP.NET MVC should be done by June 2009:
>> http://www.mono-project.com/Roadmap
>>
>> -Gonzalo
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: ASP.NET MVC

by Corbin Hoenes :: Rate this Message:

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I am interested in running ASP.NET MVC applications on linux.  I was under the impression that the ASP.NET MVC license prohibits me from doing it.

I think this is still the verbiage:
"Platform Limitation - The Additional Use Rights extend only to the software or permitted derivative works that you create that run on a Microsoft Windows operating system product. "

Could someone enlighten me on how you'll support ASP.NET MVC with this license?  Will it just be compatible apis? Simple namespace changing?



On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 10:47 PM, Gonzalo Paniagua Javier <gonzalo.mono@...> wrote:
On Thu, 2008-11-20 at 22:52 -0500, Abe Gillespie wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I'm a long time Windows ASP.NET developer and have one Mono + ASP.NET
> eCommerce site under my belt.  I'm considering using MVC on my next
> endeavor (I have no experience using it yet) and am wondering if Mono
> supports it.  If so, is there any documentation on it?
>

ASP.NET MVC should be done by June 2009:
http://www.mono-project.com/Roadmap

-Gonzalo



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Re: ASP.NET MVC

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The final release of ASP.Net MVC does not contain this verbiage.

Jonathan

Corbin Hoenes wrote:

> I am interested in running ASP.NET <http://ASP.NET> MVC applications on
> linux.  I was under the impression that the ASP.NET <http://ASP.NET> MVC
> license prohibits me from doing it.
>
> I think this is still the verbiage:
> "Platform Limitation - The Additional Use Rights extend only to the
> software or permitted derivative works that you create that run on a
> Microsoft Windows operating system product. "
>
> Could someone enlighten me on how you'll support ASP.NET
> <http://ASP.NET> MVC with this license?  Will it just be compatible
> apis? Simple namespace changing?
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 10:47 PM, Gonzalo Paniagua Javier
> <gonzalo.mono@... <mailto:gonzalo.mono@...>> wrote:
>
>     On Thu, 2008-11-20 at 22:52 -0500, Abe Gillespie wrote:
>      > Hello All,
>      >
>      > I'm a long time Windows ASP.NET <http://ASP.NET> developer and
>     have one Mono + ASP.NET <http://ASP.NET>
>      > eCommerce site under my belt.  I'm considering using MVC on my next
>      > endeavor (I have no experience using it yet) and am wondering if Mono
>      > supports it.  If so, is there any documentation on it?
>      >
>
>     ASP.NET <http://ASP.NET> MVC should be done by June 2009:
>     http://www.mono-project.com/Roadmap
>
>     -Gonzalo
>
>
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Re: ASP.NET MVC

by xanadont :: Rate this Message:

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And AFAIK, the Mono team has their own MVC efforts going (a port?).
But now that the MVC license does not have the MS-platform
stipulation, it should only be a matter of patching Mono's ASP.NET
implementation to get the MS MVC libs working.

People at SO.com seem to now be having success with Mono from SVN:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/678212/asp-net-mvc-on-mono-2-2

I haven't tried the latest myself.  Last I tried (a couple of weeks
ago) the routing was getting confused.

-Abe

On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Jonathan Pobst <monkey@...> wrote:

> The final release of ASP.Net MVC does not contain this verbiage.
>
> Jonathan
>
> Corbin Hoenes wrote:
>>
>> I am interested in running ASP.NET <http://ASP.NET> MVC applications on
>> linux.  I was under the impression that the ASP.NET <http://ASP.NET> MVC
>> license prohibits me from doing it.
>>
>> I think this is still the verbiage:
>> "Platform Limitation - The Additional Use Rights extend only to the
>> software or permitted derivative works that you create that run on a
>> Microsoft Windows operating system product. "
>>
>> Could someone enlighten me on how you'll support ASP.NET <http://ASP.NET>
>> MVC with this license?  Will it just be compatible apis? Simple namespace
>> changing?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 10:47 PM, Gonzalo Paniagua Javier
>> <gonzalo.mono@... <mailto:gonzalo.mono@...>> wrote:
>>
>>    On Thu, 2008-11-20 at 22:52 -0500, Abe Gillespie wrote:
>>     > Hello All,
>>     >
>>     > I'm a long time Windows ASP.NET <http://ASP.NET> developer and
>>    have one Mono + ASP.NET <http://ASP.NET>
>>     > eCommerce site under my belt.  I'm considering using MVC on my next
>>     > endeavor (I have no experience using it yet) and am wondering if
>> Mono
>>     > supports it.  If so, is there any documentation on it?
>>     >
>>
>>    ASP.NET <http://ASP.NET> MVC should be done by June 2009:
>>    http://www.mono-project.com/Roadmap
>>
>>    -Gonzalo
>>
>>
>>
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Re: ASP.NET MVC

by Daniel Soto-2 :: Rate this Message:

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According to Mono roadmap, it says that ASP.NET MVC support will be in
Mono 2.6, planned to September 2009.

Anyway, MonoRail runs fine in Mono ;-)

2009/3/27 Abe Gillespie <abe.gillespie@...>:

> And AFAIK, the Mono team has their own MVC efforts going (a port?).
> But now that the MVC license does not have the MS-platform
> stipulation, it should only be a matter of patching Mono's ASP.NET
> implementation to get the MS MVC libs working.
>
> People at SO.com seem to now be having success with Mono from SVN:
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/678212/asp-net-mvc-on-mono-2-2
>
> I haven't tried the latest myself.  Last I tried (a couple of weeks
> ago) the routing was getting confused.
>
> -Abe
>
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Jonathan Pobst <monkey@...> wrote:
>> The final release of ASP.Net MVC does not contain this verbiage.
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> Corbin Hoenes wrote:
>>>
>>> I am interested in running ASP.NET <http://ASP.NET> MVC applications on
>>> linux.  I was under the impression that the ASP.NET <http://ASP.NET> MVC
>>> license prohibits me from doing it.
>>>
>>> I think this is still the verbiage:
>>> "Platform Limitation - The Additional Use Rights extend only to the
>>> software or permitted derivative works that you create that run on a
>>> Microsoft Windows operating system product. "
>>>
>>> Could someone enlighten me on how you'll support ASP.NET <http://ASP.NET>
>>> MVC with this license?  Will it just be compatible apis? Simple namespace
>>> changing?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 10:47 PM, Gonzalo Paniagua Javier
>>> <gonzalo.mono@... <mailto:gonzalo.mono@...>> wrote:
>>>
>>>    On Thu, 2008-11-20 at 22:52 -0500, Abe Gillespie wrote:
>>>     > Hello All,
>>>     >
>>>     > I'm a long time Windows ASP.NET <http://ASP.NET> developer and
>>>    have one Mono + ASP.NET <http://ASP.NET>
>>>     > eCommerce site under my belt.  I'm considering using MVC on my next
>>>     > endeavor (I have no experience using it yet) and am wondering if
>>> Mono
>>>     > supports it.  If so, is there any documentation on it?
>>>     >
>>>
>>>    ASP.NET <http://ASP.NET> MVC should be done by June 2009:
>>>    http://www.mono-project.com/Roadmap
>>>
>>>    -Gonzalo
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: ASP.NET MVC

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Yes, but it's not clear if that means "Mono will support the MS MVC
libraries" or "Mono will include its own, packaged MVC libraries."

On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Daniel Soto <daniel.soto2k@...> wrote:

> According to Mono roadmap, it says that ASP.NET MVC support will be in
> Mono 2.6, planned to September 2009.
>
> Anyway, MonoRail runs fine in Mono ;-)
>
> 2009/3/27 Abe Gillespie <abe.gillespie@...>:
>> And AFAIK, the Mono team has their own MVC efforts going (a port?).
>> But now that the MVC license does not have the MS-platform
>> stipulation, it should only be a matter of patching Mono's ASP.NET
>> implementation to get the MS MVC libs working.
>>
>> People at SO.com seem to now be having success with Mono from SVN:
>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/678212/asp-net-mvc-on-mono-2-2
>>
>> I haven't tried the latest myself.  Last I tried (a couple of weeks
>> ago) the routing was getting confused.
>>
>> -Abe
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Jonathan Pobst <monkey@...> wrote:
>>> The final release of ASP.Net MVC does not contain this verbiage.
>>>
>>> Jonathan
>>>
>>> Corbin Hoenes wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I am interested in running ASP.NET <http://ASP.NET> MVC applications on
>>>> linux.  I was under the impression that the ASP.NET <http://ASP.NET> MVC
>>>> license prohibits me from doing it.
>>>>
>>>> I think this is still the verbiage:
>>>> "Platform Limitation - The Additional Use Rights extend only to the
>>>> software or permitted derivative works that you create that run on a
>>>> Microsoft Windows operating system product. "
>>>>
>>>> Could someone enlighten me on how you'll support ASP.NET <http://ASP.NET>
>>>> MVC with this license?  Will it just be compatible apis? Simple namespace
>>>> changing?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 10:47 PM, Gonzalo Paniagua Javier
>>>> <gonzalo.mono@... <mailto:gonzalo.mono@...>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>    On Thu, 2008-11-20 at 22:52 -0500, Abe Gillespie wrote:
>>>>     > Hello All,
>>>>     >
>>>>     > I'm a long time Windows ASP.NET <http://ASP.NET> developer and
>>>>    have one Mono + ASP.NET <http://ASP.NET>
>>>>     > eCommerce site under my belt.  I'm considering using MVC on my next
>>>>     > endeavor (I have no experience using it yet) and am wondering if
>>>> Mono
>>>>     > supports it.  If so, is there any documentation on it?
>>>>     >
>>>>
>>>>    ASP.NET <http://ASP.NET> MVC should be done by June 2009:
>>>>    http://www.mono-project.com/Roadmap
>>>>
>>>>    -Gonzalo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: ASP.NET MVC

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Corbin Hoenes wrote:
> I am interested in running ASP.NET MVC applications on linux.  I was under
> the impression that the ASP.NET MVC license prohibits me from doing it.
>
> I think this is still the verbiage:
> "Platform Limitation - The Additional Use Rights extend only to the software
> or permitted derivative works that you create that run on a Microsoft
> Windows operating system product. "

ASP.NET MVC is open source since yesterday:

http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archive/2009/04/01/asp-net-mvc-1-0.aspx

Robert

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Re: ASP.NET MVC

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Great news.  Thanks, Robert, for finding that.

I got a question, though.  What does the MS-PL license mean in regards
to contributing to Mono?  I have still never looked at MS code either
by Reflector decompilation or the platform source to keep the
possibility of contributing to Mono open.  Should I stay away from the
MVC source as well?

Thanks.
-Abr

On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 6:00 AM, Robert Jordan <robertj@...> wrote:

> Corbin Hoenes wrote:
>> I am interested in running ASP.NET MVC applications on linux.  I was under
>> the impression that the ASP.NET MVC license prohibits me from doing it.
>>
>> I think this is still the verbiage:
>> "Platform Limitation - The Additional Use Rights extend only to the software
>> or permitted derivative works that you create that run on a Microsoft
>> Windows operating system product. "
>
> ASP.NET MVC is open source since yesterday:
>
> http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archive/2009/04/01/asp-net-mvc-1-0.aspx
>
> Robert
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Re: ASP.NET MVC

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From what Miguel says here: http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2009/Apr-02.html
It doesn't sound like there's any problem with using these sources.

Abe Gillespie wrote:
Great news.  Thanks, Robert, for finding that.

I got a question, though.  What does the MS-PL license mean in regards
to contributing to Mono?  I have still never looked at MS code either
by Reflector decompilation or the platform source to keep the
possibility of contributing to Mono open.  Should I stay away from the
MVC source as well?

Thanks.
-Abr

On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 6:00 AM, Robert Jordan <robertj@gmx.net> wrote:
> Corbin Hoenes wrote:
>> I am interested in running ASP.NET MVC applications on linux.  I was under
>> the impression that the ASP.NET MVC license prohibits me from doing it.
>>
>> I think this is still the verbiage:
>> "Platform Limitation - The Additional Use Rights extend only to the software
>> or permitted derivative works that you create that run on a Microsoft
>> Windows operating system product. "
>
> ASP.NET MVC is open source since yesterday:
>
> http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archive/2009/04/01/asp-net-mvc-1-0.aspx
>
> Robert
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Re: ASP.NET MVC

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Hi,

Abe Gillespie wrote:
> Great news.  Thanks, Robert, for finding that.
>
> I got a question, though.  What does the MS-PL license mean in regards
> to contributing to Mono?  I have still never looked at MS code either
> by Reflector decompilation or the platform source to keep the
> possibility of contributing to Mono open.  Should I stay away from the
> MVC source as well?

The MVC code is already in mono's repository:

http://anonsvn.mono-project.com/viewvc/trunk/mcs/class/System.Web.Mvc/

I don't believe Marek was compelled to wear welding goggles during
the import, so it should be safe to look at the code :-D

Robert

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Re: ASP.NET MVC

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Well, hey, there you go.  These Mono guys, they're quick!

Thanks, everyone, for the response.

-Abe

On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Robert Jordan <robertj@...> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Abe Gillespie wrote:
>> Great news.  Thanks, Robert, for finding that.
>>
>> I got a question, though.  What does the MS-PL license mean in regards
>> to contributing to Mono?  I have still never looked at MS code either
>> by Reflector decompilation or the platform source to keep the
>> possibility of contributing to Mono open.  Should I stay away from the
>> MVC source as well?
>
> The MVC code is already in mono's repository:
>
> http://anonsvn.mono-project.com/viewvc/trunk/mcs/class/System.Web.Mvc/
>
> I don't believe Marek was compelled to wear welding goggles during
> the import, so it should be safe to look at the code :-D
>
> Robert
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