Ability to move instruments

[Alexandre Almeida-2]

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A feature LMMS lacks is the ability to move istruments from one position to another in the "Song-Editor" and in the "Beat+Bassline Editor".
I think this feature should be added.

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[Andy Kelley]

I strongly agree. You should be able to use *the same* instrument in both.

On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Alexandre Almeida <meta.lx@...> wrote:

A feature LMMS lacks is the ability to move istruments from one position to another in the "Song-Editor" and in the "Beat+Bassline Editor".
I think this feature should be added.

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[Nikos Chantziaras]

On 11/03/2009 03:19 AM, Alexandre Almeida wrote:
> A feature LMMS lacks is the ability to move istruments from one position
> to another in the "Song-Editor" and in the "Beat+Bassline Editor".
> I think this feature should be added.

It is possible.  There are even "grips" there to drag&drop.


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[Andy Kelley]

:-O

...hey, nice try. You can't move instruments between song editor and B+B editor.

On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 6:43 PM, Nikos Chantziaras <realnc@...> wrote:

On 11/03/2009 03:19 AM, Alexandre Almeida wrote:
> A feature LMMS lacks is the ability to move istruments from one position
> to another in the "Song-Editor" and in the "Beat+Bassline Editor".
> I think this feature should be added.

It is possible.  There are even "grips" there to drag&drop.

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[Tobias Doerffel-2]

Hi,

Am Dienstag, 3. November 2009 02:47:47 schrieb Andy Kelley:
> :-O
>
> ...hey, nice try. You can't move instruments between song editor and B+B
> editor.
Press <Ctrl> before/while dragging.

Toby


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[Andy Kelley]

Ah I see that it duplicates the track. However I am in agreement with Louigi.

On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 1:36 AM, Tobias Doerffel <tobias.doerffel@...> wrote:

Hi,

Am Dienstag, 3. November 2009 02:47:47 schrieb Andy Kelley:

> :-O
>
> ...hey, nice try. You can't move instruments between song editor and B+B
> editor.

Press <Ctrl> before/while dragging.

Toby

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[Paul Giblock-2]

Perhaps the question becomes:  Do we still want two seperate sets of
instrument (BB and Song) or do we want to make a single set?

I think the single set idea is good, but as some people mentioned, it
may clutter the Song editor with drum samples you never use.

On the same token, maybe you have a loop in a BB-pattern then want to
do a solo, it would be nice for that to go straight into the
song-editor, I suppose.

Maybe a means of "collapsing" instrument tracks that you don't intend
to use within the song editor, or some sort of grouping strategy?

I am just trying to brainstorm right now.  I remember starting to use
LMMS several years ago and the current behavior was not very intuitive
to me.

-Paul

On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 4:08 AM, Andy Kelley <superjoe30@...> wrote:

> Ah I see that it duplicates the track. However I am in agreement with
> Louigi.
>
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 1:36 AM, Tobias Doerffel <tobias.doerffel@...>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Am Dienstag, 3. November 2009 02:47:47 schrieb Andy Kelley:
>> > :-O
>> >
>> > ...hey, nice try. You can't move instruments between song editor and B+B
>> > editor.
>> Press <Ctrl> before/while dragging.
>>
>> Toby
>
>
>
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[Louigi Verona]

"I think the single set idea is good, but as some people mentioned, it
may clutter the Song editor with drum samples you never use."

This is okay. The confusion from two sets of instruments is much bigger than some additional
lines in a song editor.
Besides, if we have one set of instruments, the song editor should show patterns, not instruments.
Maybe also audio files.

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Paul Giblock <drfaygo@...> wrote:

Perhaps the question becomes:  Do we still want two seperate sets of
instrument (BB and Song) or do we want to make a single set?

I think the single set idea is good, but as some people mentioned, it
may clutter the Song editor with drum samples you never use.

On the same token, maybe you have a loop in a BB-pattern then want to
do a solo, it would be nice for that to go straight into the
song-editor, I suppose.

Maybe a means of "collapsing" instrument tracks that you don't intend
to use within the song editor, or some sort of grouping strategy?

I am just trying to brainstorm right now.  I remember starting to use
LMMS several years ago and the current behavior was not very intuitive
to me.

-Paul

On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 4:08 AM, Andy Kelley <superjoe30@...> wrote:
> Ah I see that it duplicates the track. However I am in agreement with
> Louigi.
>
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 1:36 AM, Tobias Doerffel <tobias.doerffel@...>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Am Dienstag, 3. November 2009 02:47:47 schrieb Andy Kelley:
>> > :-O
>> >
>> > ...hey, nice try. You can't move instruments between song editor and B+B
>> > editor.
>> Press <Ctrl> before/while dragging.
>>
>> Toby
>
>
>
> --
> Andy Kelley
> http://superjoesoftware.com/
>

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[Paul Giblock-2]

Also, all instruments in the song-editor works very well with the
fx-channel-per-instrument patch I wrote recently (and need to rebase)

-Paul

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Louigi Verona <louigi.verona@...> wrote:

> "I think the single set idea is good, but as some people mentioned, it
> may clutter the Song editor with drum samples you never use."
>
> This is okay. The confusion from two sets of instruments is much bigger than
> some additional
> lines in a song editor.
> Besides, if we have one set of instruments, the song editor should show
> patterns, not instruments.
> Maybe also audio files.
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Paul Giblock <drfaygo@...> wrote:
>>
>> Perhaps the question becomes:  Do we still want two seperate sets of
>> instrument (BB and Song) or do we want to make a single set?
>>
>> I think the single set idea is good, but as some people mentioned, it
>> may clutter the Song editor with drum samples you never use.
>>
>> On the same token, maybe you have a loop in a BB-pattern then want to
>> do a solo, it would be nice for that to go straight into the
>> song-editor, I suppose.
>>
>> Maybe a means of "collapsing" instrument tracks that you don't intend
>> to use within the song editor, or some sort of grouping strategy?
>>
>> I am just trying to brainstorm right now.  I remember starting to use
>> LMMS several years ago and the current behavior was not very intuitive
>> to me.
>>
>> -Paul
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 4:08 AM, Andy Kelley <superjoe30@...> wrote:
>> > Ah I see that it duplicates the track. However I am in agreement with
>> > Louigi.
>> >
>> > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 1:36 AM, Tobias Doerffel
>> > <tobias.doerffel@...>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> Am Dienstag, 3. November 2009 02:47:47 schrieb Andy Kelley:
>> >> > :-O
>> >> >
>> >> > ...hey, nice try. You can't move instruments between song editor and
>> >> > B+B
>> >> > editor.
>> >> Press <Ctrl> before/while dragging.
>> >>
>> >> Toby
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Andy Kelley
>> > http://superjoesoftware.com/
>> >
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