About google analytics.

[Mattias Stahre]

Hi,

Noticed something about google analytics, like google ads there are very
often pages on midgard-project.org stands still and loads and loads and
loads and loads from google analytics. I do belive their servers is
somewhat overloaded. I've got serveral pagetimouts related to just
google analytics to. Well it's a good idea but feel more and more that
it is slowing down the midgard-project site ALOT...

And I don't feel like it so fun to wait for a webpage to load forever
and forever and... :/

Does anyone else have this problem?

greets
Mattias Stahre

[Mattias Stahre]

Update:

Not only midgard-project.org, I have the same problem with almost every
other site i wisit that uses google analytic ... Seems to be something
wrong with it.

On Fri, 2005-12-16 at 23:13 +0100, Mattias Stahre wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Noticed something about google analytics, like google ads there are very
> often pages on midgard-project.org stands still and loads and loads and
> loads and loads from google analytics. I do belive their servers is
> somewhat overloaded. I've got serveral pagetimouts related to just
> google analytics to. Well it's a good idea but feel more and more that
> it is slowing down the midgard-project site ALOT...
>
> And I don't feel like it so fun to wait for a webpage to load forever
> and forever and... :/
>
> Does anyone else have this problem?
>
> greets
> Mattias Stahre

[Arttu Manninen]

Mattias Stahre wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Noticed something about google analytics, like google ads there are very
> often pages on midgard-project.org stands still and loads and loads and
> loads and loads from google analytics. I do belive their servers is
> somewhat overloaded. I've got serveral pagetimouts related to just
> google analytics to. Well it's a good idea but feel more and more that
> it is slowing down the midgard-project site ALOT...
>
> And I don't feel like it so fun to wait for a webpage to load forever
> and forever and... :/
>
> Does anyone else have this problem?

I have noticed the same on http://www.midgard-project.org/ - that it
shows that it's loading something from Google Analytics. I am not sure
of how Javascript is handled with browsers, but I'd think that it
wouldn't be stopping the browser from rendering the page layout even if
it's not getting the remote Javascript immediately.

Then again, I run the same tracker on sites http://www.pyha.fi/ and
http://www.luosto.fi/ and I haven't noticed change in their performance
due to this tracker. The slowness of these sites is due to something
completely different.

Midgard website has always been quite slow to load - an issue that is
definetly not good for advertising it as a CMS.

I don't know if the average load has been increasing much on the website
itself or if it is that Javascript that is affecting.


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[Mattias Stahre]

For me when I point google-analytics website to localhost I get a much higer porformance on the site... Maybe it's some issue with my ISP or something like that.

On 12/17/05, Arttu Manninen <arttu.manninen@...> wrote:

Mattias Stahre wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Noticed something about google analytics, like google ads there are very
> often pages on midgard-project.org stands still and loads and loads and
> loads and loads from google analytics. I do belive their servers is
> somewhat overloaded. I've got serveral pagetimouts related to just
> google analytics to. Well it's a good idea but feel more and more that
> it is slowing down the midgard-project site ALOT...
>
> And I don't feel like it so fun to wait for a webpage to load forever
> and forever and... :/
>
> Does anyone else have this problem?

I have noticed the same on http://www.midgard-project.org/ - that it
shows that it's loading something from Google Analytics. I am not sure
of how Javascript is handled with browsers, but I'd think that it
wouldn't be stopping the browser from rendering the page layout even if
it's not getting the remote Javascript immediately.

Then again, I run the same tracker on sites http://www.pyha.fi/ and
http://www.luosto.fi/ and I haven't noticed change in their performance
due to this tracker. The slowness of these sites is due to something
completely different.

Midgard website has always been quite slow to load - an issue that is
definetly not good for advertising it as a CMS.

I don't know if the average load has been increasing much on the website
itself or if it is that Javascript that is affecting.


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Maybe this is not really a midgard-question, but it is a bit annoying:
I have just installed midgard 1.7.3 to a new system on SuSE 9.3
It compiled just fine and is running smoothly.
Character encoding is set to utf-8 in midgard-VHOST.conf but aegir doesn't display german special signs correctly.
I have set the default language for aegir to "de" since we have only german customers here...
Any ideas ???

Thanx in advance,

Alex
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Hi,

I am trying to include some external php in midcom, but somehow don't get it...
It used to be quite easy with aegir, but since i'm kind of new to midcom i din't know where to put the include-statement.
Here is what i did:
- - Create a new topic
- - chose de.linkm.taviewer as Component for that ( all other components didnt seem to "fit")
- - tried to add <? include('/path/to/external/file.php'); ?> somewhere but didnt find the right place..

Sorry but i am kind of lost here...

Alex
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[Piotras-4]

> I am trying to include some external php in midcom, but somehow don't get it...
> It used to be quite easy with aegir, but since i'm kind of new to midcom i din't
> know where to put the include-statement.
> Here is what i did:
> - - Create a new topic
> - - chose de.linkm.taviewer as Component for that ( all other components didnt seem
> to "fit")
> - - tried to add <? include('/path/to/external/file.php'); ?> somewhere but didnt
> find the right place..

Include this is code-compat page element.
This one is only one user defined for anything which should be done before ROOT
element is parsed.
Or include it in style element.

Piotras


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[Piotras-4]

"med" <med-men@...> wrote:

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> Maybe this is not really a midgard-question, but it is a bit annoying:
> I have just installed midgard 1.7.3 to a new system on SuSE 9.3
> It compiled just fine and is running smoothly.
> Character encoding is set to utf-8 in midgard-VHOST.conf but aegir doesn't display german special signs correctly.
> I have set the default language for aegir to "de" since we have only german customers here...
> Any ideas ???

Probably Aegir doesn't support UTF-8.
Page or frame may use iso-8859-1 in Your case.

Piotras

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Hi Piotras,

Tnanks for your quick reply,

> Probably Aegir doesn't support UTF-8.
> Page or frame may use iso-8859-1 in Your case.

On a standard midgard 1.7.3 install?
All i did was compile the MidgardAllInOne package (on SuSE 9.3)
And as it is a clean fresh install (no midgard has seen this server before) i expected Aegir to run in UTF-8.
Is aegir not supporting UTF-8 in standard a "feature"?
Anyway, I will check the frameset.

Thanks,

Alex
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[Piotras-4]

"med" <med-men@...> wrote:

> > Probably Aegir doesn't support UTF-8.
> > Page or frame may use iso-8859-1 in Your case.
>
> On a standard midgard 1.7.3 install?

Yes.
Apache sets default charset to utf-8 , but Aegir probably uses
<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="application/xhtml+xml; charset=iso-8859-1" />
Which overwrites utf settings.

Piotras

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Hi Piotras,

> > > Probably Aegir doesn't support UTF-8.
> > > Page or frame may use iso-8859-1 in Your case.
> > On a standard midgard 1.7.3 install?
> Yes.
> Apache sets default charset to utf-8 , but Aegir probably
> uses <meta http-equiv="content-type"
> content="application/xhtml+xml; charset=iso-8859-1" /> Which
> overwrites utf settings.

Hmm, not as far as I can see, cant find any such meta-directive when looking at the HTML-source...
You may take a look for yourself:
http://www.demo.galf-it.de/aegir

Any other ideas that come to mind?

Thanks again for helping,

Alex
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[Piotras-4]

> Hmm, not as far as I can see, cant find any such meta-directive when looking at the
> HTML-source...
> You may take a look for yourself:
> http://www.demo.galf-it.de/aegir
>
> Any other ideas that come to mind?

Yep , the only one is that localization was done with non utf interface.

Piotras


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[Eero af Heurlin]

med wrote:

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>
>
>>>>Probably Aegir doesn't support UTF-8.
>>>>Page or frame may use iso-8859-1 in Your case.
>>>
>>>On a standard midgard 1.7.3 install?
>>
>>Yes.
>>Apache sets default charset to utf-8 , but Aegir probably
>>uses <meta http-equiv="content-type"
>>content="application/xhtml+xml; charset=iso-8859-1" /> Which
>>overwrites utf settings.
>
>
> Hmm, not as far as I can see, cant find any such meta-directive when looking at the HTML-source...
> You may take a look for yourself:
> http://www.demo.galf-it.de/aegir
>
> Any other ideas that come to mind?
>

There was some place in Aegir settings to change the charset, however if
it has been set to latin-1 for some user for any reason a parameter
needs to be deleted and the person needs to relogin.

It's been a while since I had to tackle this issue but we have people
using Aegir in Finnish with UTF-8, no problem. (I only ever saw this
charset parameter even when upgrading a database from latin-1 to utf-8)

/Rambo

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[David Schmitter]

I notice the same. google-analytics.com increases the response time by
several seconds. That is on a 2Mbit line...

David

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[Henri Bergius]

Any +1/-1 votes for keeping Google Analytics on the Midgard site?

On Jan 23, 2006, at 19:06, David Schmitter wrote:

> I notice the same. google-analytics.com increases the response time by
> several seconds. That is on a 2Mbit line...
>
> David
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[Johan Bernhardsson]

-1 from me .. as it does slow down sites according to my tests

/Johan

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> Any +1/-1 votes for keeping Google Analytics on the Midgard site?
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> On Jan 23, 2006, at 19:06, David Schmitter wrote:
>
> > I notice the same. google-analytics.com increases the response time by
> > several seconds. That is on a 2Mbit line...
> >
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[Mattias Stahre]

-1 from me to, even I dont have the right to vote :)

On 2/10/06, Johan Bernhardsson <johan@... > wrote:

-1 from me .. as it does slow down sites according to my tests

/Johan

On Fri, 2006-02-10 at 21:05 +0200, Henri Bergius wrote:

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> On Jan 23, 2006, at 19:06, David Schmitter wrote:
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[Tarjei Huse-8]

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On fre, 2006-02-10 at 21:05 +0200, Henri Bergius wrote:

> Any +1/-1 votes for keeping Google Analytics on the Midgard site?
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> On Jan 23, 2006, at 19:06, David Schmitter wrote:
>
> > I notice the same. google-analytics.com increases the response time by
> > several seconds. That is on a 2Mbit line...
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Ok, I've removed Google Analytics from the site. So from now on we  
will count again on webalizer...

(BTW, if anybody is interested in the webalizer stats, let me know)

On Feb 11, 2006, at 13:51, Tarjei Huse wrote:

> -1
> On fre, 2006-02-10 at 21:05 +0200, Henri Bergius wrote:
>> Any +1/-1 votes for keeping Google Analytics on the Midgard site?
>>
>> On Jan 23, 2006, at 19:06, David Schmitter wrote:
>>
>>> I notice the same. google-analytics.com increases the response  
>>> time by
>>> several seconds. That is on a 2Mbit line...
>>>
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Hello,
I'm interested on webalizer stats
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> from now on we  
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>
> (BTW, if anybody is interested in the webalizer
> stats, let me know)
>
> On Feb 11, 2006, at 13:51, Tarjei Huse wrote:
>
> > -1
> > On fre, 2006-02-10 at 21:05 +0200, Henri Bergius
> wrote:
> >> Any +1/-1 votes for keeping Google Analytics on
> the Midgard site?
> >>
> >> On Jan 23, 2006, at 19:06, David Schmitter wrote:
> >>
> >>> I notice the same. google-analytics.com
> increases the response  
> >>> time by
> >>> several seconds. That is on a 2Mbit line...
> >>>
> >>> David
> >>>
> >>>
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