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Re: New Global Collection, Get Collection Array

2009-11-20T07:54:31Z

> I did 1 better by storing the handle in a 4D IP Var. Since I do not
> understand how storing a reference to a global collection in the
> global
> collection is accessible without knowing the reference, I did not
> store the
> reference to the global collection in a global collection.

A 4D IP Var is not 1 better, it's 1 worse. ;-)

Instead of:

<>nGCRef := $myCollection

use:

globals{"gcref"} := $myCollection

> What's wrong with this picture?

The collection you stored was probably not created using 'new global
collection'. If you used 'new collection', it was local and was
destroyed as soon as On Application Start finished executing.

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New Global Collection, Get Collection Array

2009-11-20T07:31:30Z

A4D v4.5r1

4D 2004.8

Vista

In need of a "persistent" array in my A4D application, in the Active4D.4dl
library in the method "On Application Start", I create a new global
collection into which I store 9 arrays. The handle for this collection I
keep in a inter-process variable <>nGCRef.

Later in the application I use <>nGCRef to Get Collection Array.

The handle is invalid. The array is inaccessible.

The documentation reads: Be sure to store the handle in a place where you
can retrieve it later, such

as in the globals collection.

I did 1 better by storing the handle in a 4D IP Var. Since I do not
understand how storing a reference to a global collection in the global
collection is accessible without knowing the reference, I did not store the
reference to the global collection in a global collection.

What's wrong with this picture?

Please advise!

Thanks,

David Ringsmuth

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[ANN] Active4D v5.0r8 released

2009-11-17T18:24:57Z

Greetings,

Version 5.0r8 of Active4D, the ultimate web development environment
for 4D v11 SQL, is now available for immediate download.

The latest version of Active4D can be found here:

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Still haven't tried Active4D? Here's a testimonial from another happy
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the other by developers with more experience. The Active4D mailing
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Re: JSON, UK Pound Symbol and ISO-8859-1

2009-11-16T08:45:54Z

> However when I'm using AJAX and JSON I have problems with the
> encoding. Specifically it's encoding the £ (Uk pound sybmol) as
> £

Can you be a bit more specific? When you say "it", what does that
refer to?

> I've played around with calling:
>
> set content charset("ISO-8859-1")

Doesn't affect Ajax/JSON, Ajax uses UTF-8 exclusively.

> In my script which calls the JSON library, and using firebug I can see
> that the right character set is used, however is the JSON library is
> still encoding the pound as £

a4d.json does not encode character entities. What are you doing with
the JSON data you get back?

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Re: [ANN] Active4D v5.0r7 released

2009-11-16T08:20:22Z

On 16 Nov 2009, at 07:51, Aparajita Fishman wrote:

>> Oh, wait, maybe it will
>> be better with version 12.

It will, because 2004 to v11 was a DB engine re-write and a
discontinuity in terms of technology, whereas v12 will just be
extending the v11 functionality.

Peter

Active 4D 4.0.2
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Win 2003 Enterprise Server OS

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JSON, UK Pound Symbol and ISO-8859-1

2009-11-16T07:46:27Z

Hi Folks,

Can anyone point me in the right direction please?

I'm using a combination of Active 4D 4.5r1, JSON and the ExtJS library.

I'm having a little problem with the UK pound symbol, specifically the
encoding of the symbol in the AJAX request.

On normal HTML forms with Active4D, if I specify the encoding method
as ISO-8859-1, the HTML form displays the UK pound symbol properly,
and also when the form is submitted it is received into 4D as a pound
symbol. All good :)

However when I'm using AJAX and JSON I have problems with the
encoding. Specifically it's encoding the £ (Uk pound sybmol) as
£ I've played around with calling:

set content charset("ISO-8859-1")

In my script which calls the JSON library, and using firebug I can see
that the right character set is used, however is the JSON library is
still encoding the pound as £

I've also tried editing the JSON library, but I'm really just shooting
in the dark there ;)

Thanks

James.
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Re: [ANN] Active4D v5.0r7 released

2009-11-15T23:51:37Z

> Yeah, teething problems. 2 years after the realease of a product.
> Over 3 years into the lifecycle of the product. I'd like to take this
> lightly, but it is more of the same from 4D. Oh, wait, maybe it will
> be better with version 12.

4D is in good company.

http://tinyurl.com/yjtwgwn

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Re: [ANN] Active4D v5.0r7 released

2009-11-15T19:22:28Z

Yeah, teething problems. 2 years after the realease of a product.
Over 3 years into the lifecycle of the product. I'd like to take this
lightly, but it is more of the same from 4D. Oh, wait, maybe it will
be better with version 12.

Michael Check

On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 5:58 AM, Alexander Heintz <listreader@...> wrote:
> poor you, missing out on most of the V11 teething problems, but do not
> despair, there a quite a few left for you to enjoy :-)
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Invalid Parameters in an execute command

2009-11-14T10:56:37Z

I found the problem.

I was passing a session item value to a 4D method that required a numeric
parameter. The session item was not net initialized so it was passing a
string.

David Ringsmuth

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Re: On Web Connection, Invalid Parameter in an execute command

2009-11-14T10:17:18Z

Yes. I figured that out after I posted the email. But the error remains. I
have a plan to isolate it and then kill it....more time...

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Subject: Re: [Active4d-dev] On Web Connection, Invalid Parameter in an
execute command

> Using 4D's trace debug log I can see that the very first line shows
> something is undefined:
>
> 5 [15] cmd: Undefined (* ON WEB CONNECTION).

Actually, that's the Undefined command you are seeing, not something
that is undefined in the method.

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Re: [ANN] Active4D v5.0r7 released

2009-11-14T09:12:30Z

That's the real bummer!

Am 14.11.2009 um 04:34 schrieb Alexander Heintz:

> Sadly changing the components does reuire recompilation of the host
> database,

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Invalid parameters in an Execute command. (more)

2009-11-14T09:07:59Z

Top of Form

A runtime error occurred at line number:

0

When executing the method:

* ON WEB CONNECTION

Invalid parameters in an Execute command.

Bottom of Form

A4d 4.5r1

Vista

4D 2004.8

Compiled

4D is the web server

When running source code this error does not appear.

I've read the docs on On Web Connection in the 4D LRM and in A4D's
Reference.

I seem to remember working through this problem in the past. It may have to
do with calling 4D methods which may or may not return a $0.

I've tried many things.

If you have insight, please share it with me.

Thanks,

David Ringsmuth

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Re: On Web Connection, Invalid Parameter in an execute command

2009-11-14T08:13:43Z

> Using 4D's trace debug log I can see that the very first line shows
> something is undefined:
>
> 5 [15] cmd: Undefined (* ON WEB CONNECTION).

Actually, that's the Undefined command you are seeing, not something
that is undefined in the method.

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Re: [ANN] Active4D v5.0r7 released

2009-11-14T04:33:56Z

On 14 Nov 2009, at 12:58, Alexander Heintz wrote:

> poor you, missing out on most of the V11 teething problems, but do
> not despair, there a quite a few left for you to enjoy :-)

Indeed. I served my time with beta testing 6.7 and I'm not doing
again. Luckily it seems like there are plenty of takers for getting
their feet wet :-)

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Re: [ANN] Active4D v5.0r7 released

2009-11-14T03:58:19Z

Am 14.11.2009 um 12:41 schrieb Peter Jakobsson:

> I might start with v11.5.

poor you, missing out on most of the V11 teething problems, but do not
despair, there a quite a few left for you to enjoy :-)

Cheers

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Re: [ANN] Active4D v5.0r7 released

2009-11-14T03:41:34Z

On 14 Nov 2009, at 12:34, Alexander Heintz wrote:

> Components in V11 have absolutely NOTHING in common with 2004
> components!

Thanks for the background Alexander. Very interesting as I've not
started with v11 yet but done the courses etc (a long time ago).

I might start with v11.5.

Peter

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Re: [ANN] Active4D v5.0r7 released

2009-11-14T03:34:19Z

Am 14.11.2009 um 11:23 schrieb Peter Jakobsson:

>> don't worry, neither did 4D until Aparajita found out.
>> Then they immediately declared it a feature :-)
>
> Is this a new phenomenon in v11 ?
>
> I seems to work ok in v2004 since for years I've been using a
> component built around Active 4D which passes one of it's own
> methods to "A4D Set Stream Callbacks".

Components in V11 have absolutely NOTHING in common with 2004
components!
Completely different system.
2004 Components were basically nothing than a group of standard
methods that had some flags set (public/private, etc) and could be
moved as a group but operated in the normal host database environment
(hence the troubles with variable and method naming, etc.).
V11 components operate completely in thir own space, got their own
variables, resources, etc.
That is what makes them so great.
But again, 4D has not completely thought this trough, as it should hav
been possible to make the PlugIn API access component methods just
like the host database (and other component for that matter) do.
4D Components in V11 are a fist step to create modular programming as
you can extend functionality by just dropping the component into you
database.
Sadly changing the components does reuire recompilation of the host
database, so you cannot just exchange/add/remove a component on a
compiled database.
But hey, it’s a start and with 4D we have learned to cherish the
little advances :-)

Cheers

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Re: [ANN] Active4D v5.0r7 released

2009-11-14T02:23:57Z

On 14 Nov 2009, at 11:11, Alexander Heintz wrote:

> don't worry, neither did 4D until Aparajita found out.
> Then they immediately declared it a feature :-)

Is this a new phenomenon in v11 ?

I seems to work ok in v2004 since for years I've been using a
component built around Active 4D which passes one of it's own methods
to "A4D Set Stream Callbacks".

Peter

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Re: [ANN] Active4D v5.0r7 released

2009-11-14T02:11:12Z

Am 13.11.2009 um 22:40 schrieb Peter Jakobsson:

>> so a plugin can never access a callback method that’s part of a
>> component.
>
> Ouch !
>
> I didn't know this.

don't worry, neither did 4D until Aparajita found out.
Then they immediately declared it a feature :-)

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Re: [ANN] Active4D v5.0r7 released

2009-11-13T13:49:27Z

>> so a plugin can never access a callback method that’s part of a
>> component.
>
> Ouch !

Not directly. You would have to add a stub to the host database that
delegated to the component callback.

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Re: [ANN] Active4D v5.0r7 released

2009-11-13T13:40:57Z

On 13 Nov 2009, at 20:59, Alexander Heintz wrote:

> so a plugin can never access a callback method that’s part of a
> component.

Ouch !

I didn't know this.

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On Web Connection, Invalid Parameter in an execute command

2009-11-13T12:17:00Z

A4D 4.5r1

Vista

4D 2004.8

Using 4D as the web server

Copied the "On Web Connection" method from the A4D Shell for 4D

Installed all the core groups

Everything else works fine in source code.

Compiled I get "Invalid Parameter in an execute command, On Web Connection."

Using 4D's trace debug log I can see that the very first line shows
something is undefined:

-- Startup on Friday, November 13, 2009 02:01:08 PM (192430205) --

5 [15] Log level: 2

5 [15] cmd: Undefined (* ON WEB CONNECTION).

5 [15] cmd: MESSAGES OFF (* ON WEB CONNECTION).

5 [15] cmd: READ ONLY (* ON WEB CONNECTION).

5 [15] cmd: ON ERR CALL (* ON WEB CONNECTION).

Nothing else in the debug trace log for OWC shows an error.

This seems like it should be really simple.

Please help

Thanks,

David Ringsmuth

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Re: [ANN] Active4D v5.0r7 released

2009-11-13T12:12:30Z

Ahh.. thanks for the technical details.. despite all the negative
stuff that happened, DeepSky's components had the right intention of
masking the under-lying variants.. looks like the 4D architecture
still has ways to go yet..

:(
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Re: [ANN] Active4D v5.0r7 released

2009-11-13T12:01:13Z

> I was hoping.. with the v11 release, that an Active4D component would
> ease the release/update process.. just for the part that comprise the
> shell of course, cause everything else can be handled as text.. is
> this possible?

The problem is that the 4D plugin SDK really does not support
components. When the plugin asks for a variable value or executes a
method, it always goes to the host database. I'm sure there is some
way around it, but I'm not sure the solution would be better than the
problem.

If you want to modify the shell code, being a component doesn't help
in merging my changes, you still have to manually integrate them. If
you don't change the shell code, just open a second copy of 4D and
drag the Active4D explorer group from the new shell to your db and
replace existing resources.

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Re: [ANN] Active4D v5.0r7 released

2009-11-13T11:59:58Z

I might jump in here,
sadly it is not as easy as I had hoped (being a big fan of v1
components, I have databases where the code is 85% - self configuring
- components).
You still need a bunch of methods in the host database, as the plugin
API does aparently only give you acces to the host database methods,
so a plugin can never access a callback method that’s part of a
component.
I am currently evaluating the possibility to autmate that process
using the excellent API Pack from Pluggers.nl,.
I have a component working, but only ith the NTK WebServer, thngs get
more complicated with the built in http server.
If I find a solution I will let of course all of you know.
I can make my NTK Component available when I gat around to create at
least a rudimentary documntation for it.

Cheers,

Alex

> I was hoping.. with the v11 release, that an Active4D component would
> ease the release/update process.. just for the part that comprise the
> shell of course, cause everything else can be handled as text.. is
> this possible?
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Aparajita Fishman
> <aparajita@...> wrote:
>>> Actually. If we know the release date of the shell revision, you
>>> can do a
>>> find in database for changes after a certain date. Better than
>>> nothing.
>>
>> Just look at the modification date of the shell for the previous
>> revision,
>> then search for anything that was modified after that.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Aparajita
>> www.aparajitaworld.com
>>
>> "If you dare to fail, you are bound to succeed."
>> - Sri Chinmoy | www.srichinmoy.org
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Re: [ANN] Active4D v5.0r7 released

2009-11-13T11:07:33Z

I was hoping.. with the v11 release, that an Active4D component would
ease the release/update process.. just for the part that comprise the
shell of course, cause everything else can be handled as text.. is
this possible?

On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Aparajita Fishman
<aparajita@...> wrote:

>> Actually. If we know the release date of the shell revision, you can do a
>> find in database for changes after a certain date. Better than nothing.
>
> Just look at the modification date of the shell for the previous revision,
> then search for anything that was modified after that.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Aparajita
> www.aparajitaworld.com
>
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> - Sri Chinmoy | www.srichinmoy.org
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Re: [ANN] Active4D v5.0r7 released

2009-11-13T09:47:38Z

> Actually. If we know the release date of the shell revision, you can
> do a find in database for changes after a certain date. Better than
> nothing.

Just look at the modification date of the shell for the previous
revision, then search for anything that was modified after that.

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Re: [ANN] Active4D v5.0r7 released

2009-11-13T08:56:59Z

Actually. If we know the release date of the shell revision, you can do a find in database for changes after a certain date. Better than nothing.

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> Can you include to the Release Notes if we have to check if there
> are updates in the shell methods too?

Unless the issues I say were fixed are related to the shell, then
nothing in the shell has changed. In the future I will try to say what
methods have changed if I do make changes.

> It needs much time, to compare if there has changed anything in the
> A4D_xxx methods.

That's why I want to do a source code control system for 4D. It's
unbearable not having proper version control.

Kind regards,

Aparajita
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Re: [ANN] Active4D v5.0r7 released

2009-11-13T08:45:57Z

> Can you include to the Release Notes if we have to check if there
> are updates in the shell methods too?

Unless the issues I say were fixed are related to the shell, then
nothing in the shell has changed. In the future I will try to say what
methods have changed if I do make changes.

> It needs much time, to compare if there has changed anything in the
> A4D_xxx methods.

That's why I want to do a source code control system for 4D. It's
unbearable not having proper version control.

Kind regards,

Aparajita
www.aparajitaworld.com

"If you dare to fail, you are bound to succeed."
- Sri Chinmoy | www.srichinmoy.org

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Re: [ANN] Active4D v5.0r7 released

2009-11-13T07:51:14Z

Hello Aparajita

Thank you for the new version. It is fantastic that you still have
this high performance.

Can you include to the Release Notes if we have to check if there are
updates in the shell methods too?
It needs much time, to compare if there has changed anything in the
A4D_xxx methods.

Regards Oliver

Am 13.11.2009 um 07:08 schrieb Aparajita Fishman:

> Greetings,
>
> Version 5.0r7 of Active4D, the ultimate web development environment
> for 4D v11 SQL, is now available for immediate download. This is a
> small bug fix release that relaxes the standards of the cookie
> parser so that cookies such as those from google analytics are
> properly parsed.
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[ANN] Active4D v5.0r7 released

2009-11-12T22:08:36Z

Greetings,

Version 5.0r7 of Active4D, the ultimate web development environment
for 4D v11 SQL, is now available for immediate download. This is a
small bug fix release that relaxes the standards of the cookie parser
so that cookies such as those from google analytics are properly parsed.

The latest version of Active4D can be found here:

http://www.aparajitaworld.com/site/products/Active4D/download.php

Still haven't tried Active4D? Here's a testimonial from another happy
Active4D developer:

"I've learned an absolutely huge amount during the development and
implementation of this project -- driven at one end by customer and at
the other by developers with more experience. The Active4D mailing
list is absolutely indispensable as a source of support but the
customer is happy despite the learning curves. Their sales have
increased since we switched to Active 4D from Cold Fusion and that's
the bottom line for them." -- Peter Jakobssen

For more information on the benefits of Active4D, point your browser to:

http://www.aparajitaworld.com/site/products/Active4D

Kind regards,

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Re: Extra file in R7 Active 4D folder

2009-11-12T22:01:21Z

> Saw that R7 was posted and did a compare on the Active4D folder to
> merge changes into our applications. There is an extra file in there
> (Archive.zip) that contains an additional debug and json libs when
> exploded. I imagine it was not intended for that to be in there in
> the release.

Good call, it was indeed left there inadvertently. A new version has
been uploaded and I updated my release build script to ignore zip
files in the future.

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Extra file in R7 Active 4D folder

2009-11-12T21:05:03Z

Aparajita

Saw that R7 was posted and did a compare on the Active4D folder to
merge changes into our applications. There is an extra file in there
(Archive.zip) that contains an additional debug and json libs when
exploded. I imagine it was not intended for that to be in there in
the release.

Thanks,

Michael Check
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[ANN] Active4D v5.0r6 released

2009-11-12T07:35:41Z

Greetings,

The latest version of Active4D, the ultimate web development
environment for 4D v11 SQL, is now available for immediate download.
This is a small bug fix release.

Active4D v5.0r6 can be found here:

http://www.aparajitaworld.com/site/products/Active4D/download.php

Still haven't tried Active4D? Here's a testimonial from a happy
Active4D developer:

"We've been using some form of 4D web enabler since 1995. We've used
Netlink, ITK, the built-in 4D capabilities, and Active4D. To be
honest, Active4D has kept us in 4D. I can't imagine doing 4D web
development without it!" -- Brad Perkins

For more information on the benefits of Active4D, point your browser to:

http://www.aparajitaworld.com/site/products/Active4D

Kind regards,

Aparajita
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[ANN] Active4D v5.0r5 released

2009-11-11T05:26:01Z

Greetings,

The latest version of Active4D, the ultimate web development
environment for 4D v11 SQL, is now available for immediate download.
This is a small bug fix release which corrects some issues found in
the last 2 days.

I would like to thank the early adopters who have been putting it
through its paces and reporting the few problems they have found. I am
happy to say that so far I have been able to stick to a 48 hour (or
less) turnaround on fixing bugs!

Active4D v5.0r5 can be found here:

http://www.aparajitaworld.com/site/products/Active4D/download.php

Still haven't tried Active4D? Here's another testimonial from a happy
Active4D developer:

"We've been using some form of 4D web enabler since 1995. We've used
Netlink, ITK, the built-in 4D capabilities, and Active4D. To be
honest, Active4D has kept us in 4D. I can't imagine doing 4D web
development without it!" -- Brad Perkins

For more information on the benefits of Active4D, point your browser to:

http://www.aparajitaworld.com/site/products/Active4D

Kind regards,

Aparajita
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