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ActiveCluster move to ActiveMQ
by ben.kibler
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It appears that new development in ActiveCluster has moved to the ActiveMQ
project, and there are no new standalone releases of ActiveCluster since rel 1.0. Looking at the ActiveCluster build file in Apache SVN (https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/activemq/trunk/activecluster/pom.xml) it appears that ActiveCluster is completely dependent on ActiveMQ as well. I've been using ActiveCluster for some time now with other JMS implementations, and would like to continue doing so. Is there a version 1.1 or greater distribution of ActiveCluster (including Destination serialisation fix, http://jira.activemq.org/jira/browse/ACL-6) available as a standalone JAR file somewhere? Is there intent to maintain ActiveCluster as a standalone cluster API, not dependent on ActiveMQ? Thanks, Ben This communication is for informational purposes only. It is not intended as an offer or solicitation for the purchase or sale of any financial instrument or as an official confirmation of any transaction. All market prices, data and other information are not warranted as to completeness or accuracy and are subject to change without notice. Any comments or statements made herein do not necessarily reflect those of JPMorgan Chase & Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates. |
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Re: ActiveCluster move to ActiveMQ
by Jonathan Duty
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Ben,
I have been listening of this list for a few months and never given a response to any of my questions, and I have seen 0 activity. I finally had to go post to the activemq list. I'm guessing if you want a response from the core developers you will need to do that also. ~Jonathan On Feb 28, 2006, at 3:10 PM, ben.kibler@... wrote: > It appears that new development in ActiveCluster has moved to the > ActiveMQ > project, and there are no new standalone releases of ActiveCluster > since > rel 1.0. > > Looking at the ActiveCluster build file in Apache SVN > (https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/activemq/trunk/ > activecluster/pom.xml) > it appears that ActiveCluster is completely dependent on ActiveMQ > as well. > > I've been using ActiveCluster for some time now with other JMS > implementations, and would like to continue doing so. > > Is there a version 1.1 or greater distribution of ActiveCluster > (including > Destination serialisation fix, http://jira.activemq.org/jira/browse/ > ACL-6) > available as a standalone JAR file somewhere? Is there intent to > maintain > ActiveCluster as a standalone cluster API, not dependent on ActiveMQ? > > Thanks, > Ben > > > > This communication is for informational purposes only. It is not > intended > as an offer or solicitation for the purchase or sale of any financial > instrument or as an official confirmation of any transaction. All > market prices, > data and other information are not warranted as to completeness or > accuracy and > are subject to change without notice. Any comments or statements > made herein > do not necessarily reflect those of JPMorgan Chase & Co., its > subsidiaries > and affiliates. |
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Re: ActiveCluster move to ActiveMQ
by rajdavies
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Hi Jonathan,
apologies if we've missed you're questions - but as we've moved to apache - we've been concentrating on the apache mailing lists - as we really want the community to grow there. cheers, Rob On 28 Feb 2006, at 20:27, Jonathan Duty wrote: > Ben, > I have been listening of this list for a few months and never given > a response to any of my questions, and I have seen 0 activity. I > finally had to go post to the activemq list. I'm guessing if you > want a response from the core developers you will need to do that > also. > > ~Jonathan > > On Feb 28, 2006, at 3:10 PM, ben.kibler@... wrote: > >> It appears that new development in ActiveCluster has moved to the >> ActiveMQ >> project, and there are no new standalone releases of ActiveCluster >> since >> rel 1.0. >> >> Looking at the ActiveCluster build file in Apache SVN >> (https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/activemq/trunk/ >> activecluster/pom.xml) >> it appears that ActiveCluster is completely dependent on ActiveMQ >> as well. >> >> I've been using ActiveCluster for some time now with other JMS >> implementations, and would like to continue doing so. >> >> Is there a version 1.1 or greater distribution of ActiveCluster >> (including >> Destination serialisation fix, http://jira.activemq.org/jira/ >> browse/ACL-6) >> available as a standalone JAR file somewhere? Is there intent to >> maintain >> ActiveCluster as a standalone cluster API, not dependent on ActiveMQ? >> >> Thanks, >> Ben >> >> >> >> This communication is for informational purposes only. It is not >> intended >> as an offer or solicitation for the purchase or sale of any financial >> instrument or as an official confirmation of any transaction. All >> market prices, >> data and other information are not warranted as to completeness or >> accuracy and >> are subject to change without notice. Any comments or statements >> made herein >> do not necessarily reflect those of JPMorgan Chase & Co., its >> subsidiaries >> and affiliates. > |
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Re: ActiveCluster move to ActiveMQ
by Jonathan Duty
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Ahh, cool. I wasn't complaining. Just trying to help Ben get his
question answered. I'm very happy with ActiveCluster and I'm glad to know it is still alive and well. Just curious, what mailing list? I don't see an activecluster project in the incubator. ~Jonathan On Feb 28, 2006, at 5:26 PM, Rob Davies wrote: > Hi Jonathan, > > apologies if we've missed you're questions - but as we've moved to > apache - we've been concentrating on the apache mailing lists - as > we really want the community to grow there. > > cheers, > > Rob > > On 28 Feb 2006, at 20:27, Jonathan Duty wrote: > >> Ben, >> I have been listening of this list for a few months and never >> given a response to any of my questions, and I have seen 0 >> activity. I finally had to go post to the activemq list. I'm >> guessing if you want a response from the core developers you will >> need to do that also. >> >> ~Jonathan >> >> On Feb 28, 2006, at 3:10 PM, ben.kibler@... wrote: >> >>> It appears that new development in ActiveCluster has moved to the >>> ActiveMQ >>> project, and there are no new standalone releases of >>> ActiveCluster since >>> rel 1.0. >>> >>> Looking at the ActiveCluster build file in Apache SVN >>> (https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/activemq/trunk/ >>> activecluster/pom.xml) >>> it appears that ActiveCluster is completely dependent on >>> ActiveMQ as well. >>> >>> I've been using ActiveCluster for some time now with other JMS >>> implementations, and would like to continue doing so. >>> >>> Is there a version 1.1 or greater distribution of ActiveCluster >>> (including >>> Destination serialisation fix, http://jira.activemq.org/jira/ >>> browse/ACL-6) >>> available as a standalone JAR file somewhere? Is there intent to >>> maintain >>> ActiveCluster as a standalone cluster API, not dependent on >>> ActiveMQ? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Ben >>> >>> >>> >>> This communication is for informational purposes only. It is not >>> intended >>> as an offer or solicitation for the purchase or sale of any >>> financial >>> instrument or as an official confirmation of any transaction. All >>> market prices, >>> data and other information are not warranted as to completeness >>> or accuracy and >>> are subject to change without notice. Any comments or statements >>> made herein >>> do not necessarily reflect those of JPMorgan Chase & Co., its >>> subsidiaries >>> and affiliates. >> > |
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Re: ActiveCluster move to ActiveMQ
by rajdavies
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Hi Ben,
long time no talk! We had to move the api back to use javax.jms.Destination to support WADI for Apache Geronimo 1.0. If I remember correctly, you've been using SonicMQ that did not support serialization of Destinations. We've tried to cater for that by adding the DestinationMarshaller interface - that can be an optional argument for creating a cluster. The default is to use an ActiveMQDestination, but it should be trivial to pass in an implementation that uses Sonic. Please let us know if this is not the case. cheers, Rob On 28 Feb 2006, at 20:10, ben.kibler@... wrote: > It appears that new development in ActiveCluster has moved to the > ActiveMQ > project, and there are no new standalone releases of ActiveCluster > since > rel 1.0. > > Looking at the ActiveCluster build file in Apache SVN > (https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/activemq/trunk/ > activecluster/pom.xml) > it appears that ActiveCluster is completely dependent on ActiveMQ > as well. > > I've been using ActiveCluster for some time now with other JMS > implementations, and would like to continue doing so. > > Is there a version 1.1 or greater distribution of ActiveCluster > (including > Destination serialisation fix, http://jira.activemq.org/jira/browse/ > ACL-6) > available as a standalone JAR file somewhere? Is there intent to > maintain > ActiveCluster as a standalone cluster API, not dependent on ActiveMQ? > > Thanks, > Ben > > > > This communication is for informational purposes only. It is not > intended > as an offer or solicitation for the purchase or sale of any financial > instrument or as an official confirmation of any transaction. All > market prices, > data and other information are not warranted as to completeness or > accuracy and > are subject to change without notice. Any comments or statements > made herein > do not necessarily reflect those of JPMorgan Chase & Co., its > subsidiaries > and affiliates. |
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Re: ActiveCluster move to ActiveMQ
by rajdavies
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ActiveCluster is currently using activemq-dev@...
So it's part of the ActiveMQ project in the Apache incubator at the moment. cheers, Rob On 28 Feb 2006, at 22:31, Jonathan Duty wrote: > Ahh, cool. I wasn't complaining. Just trying to help Ben get his > question answered. I'm very happy with ActiveCluster and I'm glad > to know it is still alive and well. > > Just curious, what mailing list? I don't see an activecluster > project in the incubator. > > ~Jonathan > > On Feb 28, 2006, at 5:26 PM, Rob Davies wrote: > >> Hi Jonathan, >> >> apologies if we've missed you're questions - but as we've moved to >> apache - we've been concentrating on the apache mailing lists - as >> we really want the community to grow there. >> >> cheers, >> >> Rob >> >> On 28 Feb 2006, at 20:27, Jonathan Duty wrote: >> >>> Ben, >>> I have been listening of this list for a few months and never >>> given a response to any of my questions, and I have seen 0 >>> activity. I finally had to go post to the activemq list. I'm >>> guessing if you want a response from the core developers you will >>> need to do that also. >>> >>> ~Jonathan >>> >>> On Feb 28, 2006, at 3:10 PM, ben.kibler@... wrote: >>> >>>> It appears that new development in ActiveCluster has moved to >>>> the ActiveMQ >>>> project, and there are no new standalone releases of >>>> ActiveCluster since >>>> rel 1.0. >>>> >>>> Looking at the ActiveCluster build file in Apache SVN >>>> (https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/activemq/trunk/ >>>> activecluster/pom.xml) >>>> it appears that ActiveCluster is completely dependent on >>>> ActiveMQ as well. >>>> >>>> I've been using ActiveCluster for some time now with other JMS >>>> implementations, and would like to continue doing so. >>>> >>>> Is there a version 1.1 or greater distribution of ActiveCluster >>>> (including >>>> Destination serialisation fix, http://jira.activemq.org/jira/ >>>> browse/ACL-6) >>>> available as a standalone JAR file somewhere? Is there intent >>>> to maintain >>>> ActiveCluster as a standalone cluster API, not dependent on >>>> ActiveMQ? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Ben >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> This communication is for informational purposes only. It is not >>>> intended >>>> as an offer or solicitation for the purchase or sale of any >>>> financial >>>> instrument or as an official confirmation of any transaction. >>>> All market prices, >>>> data and other information are not warranted as to completeness >>>> or accuracy and >>>> are subject to change without notice. Any comments or statements >>>> made herein >>>> do not necessarily reflect those of JPMorgan Chase & Co., its >>>> subsidiaries >>>> and affiliates. >>> >> > |
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Re: ActiveCluster move to ActiveMQ
by Jonathan Duty
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Great. Glad to know it is still going on. You may want to put a
note on the activecluster website. The talk around town is that the project is dead (since no activity on the website in over a year). ~Jonathan On Feb 28, 2006, at 5:41 PM, Rob Davies wrote: > ActiveCluster is currently using activemq-dev@... > > So it's part of the ActiveMQ project in the Apache incubator at the > moment. > > cheers, > > Rob > > On 28 Feb 2006, at 22:31, Jonathan Duty wrote: > >> Ahh, cool. I wasn't complaining. Just trying to help Ben get his >> question answered. I'm very happy with ActiveCluster and I'm glad >> to know it is still alive and well. >> >> Just curious, what mailing list? I don't see an activecluster >> project in the incubator. >> >> ~Jonathan >> >> On Feb 28, 2006, at 5:26 PM, Rob Davies wrote: >> >>> Hi Jonathan, >>> >>> apologies if we've missed you're questions - but as we've moved >>> to apache - we've been concentrating on the apache mailing lists >>> - as we really want the community to grow there. >>> >>> cheers, >>> >>> Rob >>> >>> On 28 Feb 2006, at 20:27, Jonathan Duty wrote: >>> >>>> Ben, >>>> I have been listening of this list for a few months and never >>>> given a response to any of my questions, and I have seen 0 >>>> activity. I finally had to go post to the activemq list. I'm >>>> guessing if you want a response from the core developers you >>>> will need to do that also. >>>> >>>> ~Jonathan >>>> >>>> On Feb 28, 2006, at 3:10 PM, ben.kibler@... wrote: >>>> >>>>> It appears that new development in ActiveCluster has moved to >>>>> the ActiveMQ >>>>> project, and there are no new standalone releases of >>>>> ActiveCluster since >>>>> rel 1.0. >>>>> >>>>> Looking at the ActiveCluster build file in Apache SVN >>>>> (https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/activemq/trunk/ >>>>> activecluster/pom.xml) >>>>> it appears that ActiveCluster is completely dependent on >>>>> ActiveMQ as well. >>>>> >>>>> I've been using ActiveCluster for some time now with other JMS >>>>> implementations, and would like to continue doing so. >>>>> >>>>> Is there a version 1.1 or greater distribution of ActiveCluster >>>>> (including >>>>> Destination serialisation fix, http://jira.activemq.org/jira/ >>>>> browse/ACL-6) >>>>> available as a standalone JAR file somewhere? Is there intent >>>>> to maintain >>>>> ActiveCluster as a standalone cluster API, not dependent on >>>>> ActiveMQ? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Ben >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This communication is for informational purposes only. It is >>>>> not intended >>>>> as an offer or solicitation for the purchase or sale of any >>>>> financial >>>>> instrument or as an official confirmation of any transaction. >>>>> All market prices, >>>>> data and other information are not warranted as to completeness >>>>> or accuracy and >>>>> are subject to change without notice. Any comments or >>>>> statements made herein >>>>> do not necessarily reflect those of JPMorgan Chase & Co., its >>>>> subsidiaries >>>>> and affiliates. >>>> >>> >> > |
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Re: ActiveCluster move to ActiveMQ
by James.Strachan
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On 28 Feb 2006, at 20:10, ben.kibler@... wrote:
> It appears that new development in ActiveCluster has moved to the > ActiveMQ > project, and there are no new standalone releases of ActiveCluster > since > rel 1.0. > > Looking at the ActiveCluster build file in Apache SVN > (https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/activemq/trunk/ > activecluster/pom.xml) > it appears that ActiveCluster is completely dependent on ActiveMQ > as well. > > I've been using ActiveCluster for some time now with other JMS > implementations, and would like to continue doing so. Great, glad to hear it. Its purely a gremlin in the M2 POM - there's no hard and fast dependency, ActiveMQ is purely used for testing. If I knew how to do it, I'd fix the pom.xml. Anyone know how to make a dependency marked as for testing only? FWIW we're only using Maven 1 on ActiveMQ/ActiveCluster/ActiveIO right now - we backed off using m2 > Is there intent to maintain > ActiveCluster as a standalone cluster API, not dependent on ActiveMQ? Yes. Its just given that ActiveMQ/WADI/Geronimo uses it, we felt it was easier to move the code to Apache with ActiveMQ James ------- http://radio.weblogs.com/0112098/ |
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Re: ActiveCluster move to ActiveMQ
by James.Strachan
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On 1 Mar 2006, at 18:16, ben.kibler@... wrote:
> Unfortunately, activecluster-4.0-M4 is dependent on activemq-core, > so it > can't be used easily with another JMS provider. Depending on classes inside activemq-core.jar != not working with another JMS provider :) > The DefaultClusterFactory class depends on > org.apache.activemq.util.IdGenerator. That seems like a simple > dependency > to remove (maybe use Jakarta Commons Id package?). Maybe we should just copy that one class across. > Not so obvious is an issue where the DestinationMarshaller > interface is > required to create a Destination from a String. Creating a > destination for > most JMS vendors requires access to the Session object (e.g. > Session.createTopic(String name)), which is encapsulated in the > DefaultClusterFactory class. How would I create a destination in > my own > marshaller implementation, with no access to the Session object? The > DefaultDestinationMarshaller implementation creates a new > ActiveMQTopic > object, which obviously only works in ActiveMQ.... We could just use a dummy Destination object for now that gets serialised? > So, if I tweak the DefaultClusterFactory class, changing the protected > createCluster method to public, then I can easily write my own > DestinationMarshaller, and the code is truly independent of ActiveMQ. > > Is anyone else interested in using ActiveCluster with a JMS > provider other > than ActiveMQ? Sure - supporting any JMS is a good thing. > Any plans to make ActiveCluster a top-level Geronimo > project, and not just a subcomponent of ActiveMQ? We'll see what happens with Geronimo / WADI / ActiveMQ. It might make sense as a module in Geronimo or in ActiveMQ. Am not sure if its big enough to be a top level project James ------- http://radio.weblogs.com/0112098/ |
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Re: ActiveCluster move to ActiveMQ
by rajdavies
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Hi Ben,
that's great! I didn't see the attachments - can you send them again ? cheers, Rob On 1 Mar 2006, at 21:59, ben.kibler@... wrote: > I've modified the DestinationMarshaller, > DefaultDestinationMarshaller, and > DefaultClusterFactory to use "Session.createTopic(String > destinationName)" > instead of "new ActiveMQTopic(String destinationName)". This will > work > with ActiveMQ, SonicMQ, Tibco, and probably most other vendors. > > Since DestinationMarshaller.getDestination(String name) is called > on every > heartbeat message, and most JMS implementations (ActiveMQ excluded) > perform > a remote call to create a new Destination, I've also added a lookup > cache > of name->destination mappings in DefaultDestinationMarshaller, and > changed > the interface definition to throw a JMSException. > > Since Weblogic (and perhaps others) may use JNDI lookups or other > mechanism > to do name->Destination mappings, I've modified the > DefaultClusterFactory, > making the protected createCluster method that takes a Connection and > Session object to be public. This way you can create the > Connection and > Session objects prior to creating your DestinationMarshaller object. > > > (See attached file: DestinationMarshaller.java)(See attached file: > DefaultClusterFactory.java)(See attached file: > DefaultDestinationMarshaller.java) > > I had to modify the unit tests slightly to throw the new > JMSException, and > to provide a Session object to the DefaultDestinationMarshaller > constructor. Once modified, all the unit tests ran successfully. > > Does this sound like a workable solution? Should I give up on a > cross-vendor implementation, and write my own ClusterFactory and > Marshaller > implementations? (in hindsight, it would have been simpler ;-) > > Thanks, > Ben > > > > > |---------+----------------------------> > | | James Strachan | > | | <james.strachan@g| > | | mail.com> | > | | | > | | 03/01/2006 01:55 | > | | PM | > | | Please respond to| > | | user | > | | | > |---------+----------------------------> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ---------------------------------------------------------| > > | > | > | To: > user@... > | > | cc: activemq- > dev@... > | > | Subject: Re: [activecluster-user] ActiveCluster move to > ActiveMQ | >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ---------------------------------------------------------| > > > > > On 1 Mar 2006, at 18:16, ben.kibler@... wrote: >> Unfortunately, activecluster-4.0-M4 is dependent on activemq-core, >> so it >> can't be used easily with another JMS provider. > > Depending on classes inside activemq-core.jar != not working with > another JMS provider :) > > >> The DefaultClusterFactory class depends on >> org.apache.activemq.util.IdGenerator. That seems like a simple >> dependency >> to remove (maybe use Jakarta Commons Id package?). > > Maybe we should just copy that one class across. > > >> Not so obvious is an issue where the DestinationMarshaller >> interface is >> required to create a Destination from a String. Creating a >> destination for >> most JMS vendors requires access to the Session object (e.g. >> Session.createTopic(String name)), which is encapsulated in the >> DefaultClusterFactory class. How would I create a destination in >> my own >> marshaller implementation, with no access to the Session object? The >> DefaultDestinationMarshaller implementation creates a new >> ActiveMQTopic >> object, which obviously only works in ActiveMQ.... > > We could just use a dummy Destination object for now that gets > serialised? > > >> So, if I tweak the DefaultClusterFactory class, changing the >> protected >> createCluster method to public, then I can easily write my own >> DestinationMarshaller, and the code is truly independent of ActiveMQ. >> >> Is anyone else interested in using ActiveCluster with a JMS >> provider other >> than ActiveMQ? > > Sure - supporting any JMS is a good thing. > > >> Any plans to make ActiveCluster a top-level Geronimo >> project, and not just a subcomponent of ActiveMQ? > > We'll see what happens with Geronimo / WADI / ActiveMQ. It might make > sense as a module in Geronimo or in ActiveMQ. Am not sure if its big > enough to be a top level project > > James > ------- > http://radio.weblogs.com/0112098/ > > > > > This communication is for informational purposes only. It is not > intended > as an offer or solicitation for the purchase or sale of any financial > instrument or as an official confirmation of any transaction. All > market prices, > data and other information are not warranted as to completeness or > accuracy and > are subject to change without notice. Any comments or statements > made herein > do not necessarily reflect those of JPMorgan Chase & Co., its > subsidiaries > and affiliates. |
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