Admins can now rename files!

[David Gerard-2]

http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2009/09/file-renaming-enabled-for-admins/

\o/


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[stevertigo-2]

David Gerard <dgerard@...> wrote:
> http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2009/09/file-renaming-enabled-for-admins/
> \o/

Yay. Six years late, and a backlog of only 7 million files.

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[Gwern Branwen]

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 4:14 PM, David Gerard <dgerard@...> wrote:
> http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2009/09/file-renaming-enabled-for-admins/
>
> \o/
>
>
> - d.

Any news about when the rest of us might enjoy move functionality for
files and not just articles?

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[stevertigo-2]

Gwern Branwen <gwern0@...> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 4:14 PM, David Gerard <dgerard@...> wrote:
>> http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2009/09/file-renaming-enabled-for-admins/
>> \o/

> Any news about when the rest of us might enjoy move functionality for
> files and not just articles?

Don't imagine they will want to let just anyone start moving files -
not just for the server load reason, nor RAM or disk space issues (?),
but because its just not necessary. We learned long ago to treat
filenames as arbitrary and part of some kind of useful scheme.

-Stevertigo

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[stevertigo-2]

stevertigo <stvrtg@...> wrote:

> We learned long ago to treat
> filenames as arbitrary and **** part of some kind of useful scheme.

Er, should be "*not* part of some... "

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[David Gerard-2]

2009/9/21 Gwern Branwen <gwern0@...>:
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 4:14 PM, David Gerard <dgerard@...> wrote:

>> http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2009/09/file-renaming-enabled-for-admins/

> Any news about when the rest of us might enjoy move functionality for
> files and not just articles?


Ask on the tech blog :-) The Commons page on the subject asks people
to take it slowly so bugs can be caught.


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[K. Peachey]

> Gwern Branwen <gwern0@...> wrote:
> Any news about when the rest of us might enjoy move functionality for
> files and not just articles?
After a testing pahse, it will be up to community discussion for
consensus most likely.

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 7:17 AM, stevertigo <stvrtg@...> wrote:
> Don't imagine they will want to let just anyone start moving files -
> not just for the server load reason, nor RAM or disk space issues (?),
> but because its just not necessary. We learned long ago to treat
> filenames as arbitrary and part of some kind of useful scheme.
>
> -Stevertigo
File names shouldn't really matter, afaik when you rename a file it
should also create a redirect to the name new not to break the
pre-existing usage.

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[Gwern Branwen]

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 5:17 PM, stevertigo <stvrtg@...> wrote:

> Gwern Branwen <gwern0@...> wrote:
>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 4:14 PM, David Gerard <dgerard@...> wrote:
>>> http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2009/09/file-renaming-enabled-for-admins/
>>> \o/
>
>> Any news about when the rest of us might enjoy move functionality for
>> files and not just articles?
>
> Don't imagine they will want to let just anyone start moving files -
> not just for the server load reason, nor RAM or disk space issues (?),
> but because its just not necessary. We learned long ago to treat
> filenames as arbitrary and part of some kind of useful scheme.
>
> -Stevertigo

All of that would seem equally applicable to articles. ('If you don't
like the random name it was created with, just make a redirect...')

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[Mark Wagner-2]

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 13:14, David Gerard <dgerard@...> wrote:
> http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2009/09/file-renaming-enabled-for-admins/
>

Again?  Bets on how long it'll last this time?

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[Steve Bennett-8]

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 7:17 AM, stevertigo <stvrtg@...> wrote:
> Don't imagine they will want to let just anyone start moving files -
> not just for the server load reason, nor RAM or disk space issues (?),
> but because its just not necessary. We learned long ago to treat
> filenames as arbitrary and part of some kind of useful scheme.

I disagree, and I'd like to see file renaming opened up. It sucks
seeing a file with a blatantly wrong name sitting there for years.
Sure, the file names could be totally arbitrary (a882be8.jpg) or they
could be extremely meaningful - but having them stuck at whatever the
uploader originally thought of is not ideal. Especially since
redirects exist and work.

Steve

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[Daniel R. Tobias]

On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 11:59:06 +1000, Steve Bennett wrote:

> I disagree, and I'd like to see file renaming opened up. It sucks
> seeing a file with a blatantly wrong name sitting there for years.
> Sure, the file names could be totally arbitrary (a882be8.jpg) or they
> could be extremely meaningful - but having them stuck at whatever the
> uploader originally thought of is not ideal. Especially since
> redirects exist and work.

Yes, some of my own files have "wrong" names, such as when I
attempted to give them names that included the date a photo was
taken, but later realized I got the date wrong for some of the
pictures and fixed it in the description, but was stuck with a
mismatched name.


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[Steve Bennett-8]

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Daniel R. Tobias <dan@...> wrote:
> Yes, some of my own files have "wrong" names, such as when I
> attempted to give them names that included the date a photo was
> taken, but later realized I got the date wrong for some of the
> pictures and fixed it in the description, but was stuck with a
> mismatched name.

Or misspelling names, or misidentifying locations or people..or even
the opposite, where you upload an image of an animal that you can't
really identify, but with help you manage to. In practice I've ended
up uploading it to picasaweb or something, and only putting it on
commons once I knew what it was. (Arguably not a bad thing...)

Steve

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