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The agenda for tomorrow's TAG teleconference is now available at [1,2],
and in text-only form below. Jonathan, please confirm whether you will be able to scribe. If Jonathan is not available, the next in line for scribing are Ashok, John and Larry, in that order. Also, please note that there is a high probability that the telcon of 29 October will be cancelled, to allow all of us to get more work done before heading out to TPAC. I am not yet formally announcing cancellation, as there is some chance that we will want a brief call specifically to discuss TPAC logistics and agendas. Thank you. Noah [1] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/tag-weekly [2] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/10/22-agenda -------------------------------------- Noah Mendelsohn IBM Corporation One Rogers Street Cambridge, MA 02142 1-617-693-4036 -------------------------------------- [1]W3C | [2]TAG | Previous: : [3]8 Oct 2009 Next: 29 Oct 2009 [1] http://www.w3.org/ [2] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ [3] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/10/08-agenda Agenda of 22 Oct 2009 TAG teleconference Nearby: [4]Teleconference details - [5]issues list and [6]Issue Tracker ([7]handling new issues) - [8]www-tag archive - [9]tag archive 1. Convene + Chair: Noah, Scribe: Jonathan Rees (unconfirmed) + Roll call -- Regrets: Tim + Note future regrets: Tim (29 (probable regrets); Nov: 12, 19, 26; 3 December: 3 (probable regrets)) + Agenda Review - [10]this agenda + Next Telcon: 15 October 2009 Chair: Noah; Scribe: Jonathan Rees (unconfirmed) + Future scribes: Ashok -> John -> Larry 2. Approve minutes of prior meeting(s) + Approve [11]Minutes of 23-25 September 2009 F2F + Approve [12]minutes of 1 October 2009 (the chair thinks we might have approved these during our call of the 8th, but doesn't see any record one way or the other) + Approve [13]minutes of 8 October 2009 3. Administrative items (Brief) + Reminder that, per [14]agreement on the 8th. our meetings at TPAC have been moved to Monday afternoon and Friday morning. + The TAG will hold a joint meeting with the HTML Working group at TPAC on Thursday, after lunch. Exact time is still TBD. + Proposal: tentatively, we will not meet next week on 29 October. However, because there may be value in having a last minute discussion of TPAC planning, and because procedurally it's easy to cancel a telcon last minute, but impossible to schedule one, we will for the moment hold off on formally cancelling. + The chair thanks those "shepherds" who have responded to the [15]request to update issue status. Other TAG members are requested to update their issues as soon as practical. + Reminder that a [16]Call for Exclusions has been sent for patents relating to the [17]First Public Working Draft of our Finding on Usage Patterns For Client-Side URL parameters (call for exclusions [18]update). The call for exclusions ends 22 October 2009 - two days from now. + Reminder of future F2F meetings: o 2-6 November 2006 @ [19]W3C Technical Plenary, Santa Clara, CA o 8-10 December 2009 @ MIT (Per [20]resolution of 25 June 2009 - note that Raman and John Kemp have confirmed the acceptability of this date, though Raman is unsure he'll attend). o 17-19 March 2010 @ MIT (per [21]decision at Sept. 2009 F2F) 4. Privacy policy + From [22]minutes of 8 Oct 2009: RESOLVED that that LMM edit 2009Sep/0073 lightly as discussed 8 Oct and Noah send to Device APIs and Policy Working Group on behalf of the TAG + [23]ACTION-318 Send note to Device APIs and Policy (DAP) Working Group on behalf of the TAG - on Noah Due: 15 Oct 2009 5. Forbidding hyperlinks + Background: o Member-only [24]discussion asks about the increasing prevalence of Web sites that forbid linking to both the "home" page and to "nested" pages. Discussion includes a [25]suggestion that the TAG become involved. o TAG Finding: [26]"Deep Linking" in the World Wide Web (Sept. 2003) + Goals: o Decide whether the TAG wishes to further investigate the appropriateness of prohibitions on linking. o If so, assign responsibility for further work. 6. HTML + Background: o [27]Prioritized list of HTML-related issues, originally developed at Sept. 2009 F2F. (An Open Document Format [28].ods version and an Excel [29].xls version are also available.) + Earlier background: o Discussion of versioning and HTML at June 2009 TAG F2F ([30]session 1 and [31]session 2) o June 2009 F2F discussion of [32]plans to review HTML 5 drafts o [33]Architectural Considerations for Language Versioning for the Web (Note from Larry Masinter and Jonathan Rees) o HTML working group intention to take HTML to W3C Last Call sometime between October and December, 2009 (per [34]note from HTML WG co-chair Sam Ruby) o Paul Cotton and Maciej Stchowiak join Sam Ruby as HTML WG co-chairs ([35]announcement) o [36]Division of labour for TAG reading the HTML 5 draft specification that we [37]agreed to on July 23. o Dan Connolly and Michael Sperberg-McQueen draft [38]Web addresses in HTML 5, which is factored from the HTML 5 draft. (see [39]email from Dan announcing the draft). This was discussed on 23 April 2009 and the associated [40]ACTION-253 requesting that Dan brief us was closed. o Ian Hickson [41]announces availability of initial drafts of HTML 5 authoring specifications. This is, in part, in response to a [42]suggestion made by Noah in October 2008, shortly after the HTML/TAG joint working group meeting at the Mandelieu Technical Plenary. o Larry Masinter [43]announces new draft of [44]Architectural Considerations for Language Versioning for the Web . Chair's [45]response from Noah (member-only). + TAG Issues relating to this discussion: o [46]ISSUE-20 (errorHandling-20) What should specifications say about error handling? shepherd: Henry Thompson o [47]ISSUE-33 (mixedUIXMLNamespace-33) Composability for user interface-oriented XML namespaces (no shepherd) o [48]ISSUE-41 (LanguageVersioning-41) What are good practices for designing extensible languages and for handling versioning? shepherd: Larry Masinter o [49]ISSUE-54 (TagSoupIntegration-54) Tag soup integration. shepherd: Henry Thompson + TAG Actions relating to this discussion: o [50]ACTION-299 on T.V. Raman: Notify the TAG when the HTML WG gets closer to closing issue-4 html-versioning - Due: 2009-10-15 o [51]ACTION-302 on Noah Mendelsohn: Raise (as individual issue) question of 3 words "other applicable specifictions" in 3.2.1 (3.3.1) of HTML 5 Due: 2009-10-20 o [52]ACTION-305 on Noah Mendelsohn: Schedule time at TPAC for joint session with HTML WG - Due: 2009-10-15 (see: [53]email from Noah to HTML chairs) o [54]ACTION-315 on Dan Connolly: Follow up on best plan for HTML / TPAC Due: 2009-10-02 o [55]ACTION-316 on Henry Thompson: Henry S. Thompson to draft for tag@... proposed TAG feedback on the text/html media type registration in the 25 September draft of HTML5 Due: 2009-10-02 o [56]ACTION-317 on T.V. Raman: Read http://html5.digitalbazaar.com/specs/html5-epb.html and send some notes to the TAG Due: 2009-10-20 o [57]ACTION-319 on Noah: Consider HTML media type issue for TPAC agenda(s) Due: 2009-10-29 + Goals: o Continue technical discussion of HTML issues identified at the F2Fn 7. Pending Review Items: + [58]Pending review actions in [59]Tracker 8. Overdue Action Items: + [60]Overdue actions in [61]Tracker 9. Any other business _________________________________________________________ [4] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/#telcon [5] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues [6] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/ [7] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Jul/0054. [8] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/ [9] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/ [10] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/10/22-agenda [11] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/09/23-agenda [12] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/10/01-minutes [13] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/10/08-minutes [14] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/10/08-minutes#item02 [15] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Oct/0051.html [16] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009May/0068.html [17] http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-hash-in-uri-20090415/ [18] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Aug/0030.html [19] http://www.w3.org/2009/11/TPAC/ [20] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/25-minutes.html#item03 [21] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/09/25-minutes.html#item04 [22] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/10/08-minutes#item05 [23] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/318 [24] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ac-forum/2009OctDec/0058.html [25] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ac-forum/2009OctDec/0084.html [26] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/deeplinking-20030911 [27] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/09/HTMLIssuesRevised.pdf [28] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/09/HTMLIssues.ods [29] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/09/HTMLIssues.xls [30] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/23-minutes.html#item03 [31] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/24-minutes.html#item03 [32] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/25-minutes.html#item06 [33] http://w3.org/2001/tag/doc/versioning-html/versioning-html-20090611.html [34] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Aug/0058.html [35] http://www.w3.org/News/2009#item148 [36] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Jul/0026.html [37] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/07/23-minutes#item03 [38] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Mar/att-0444/draft.html [39] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Mar/0444.html [40] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/253 [41] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-comments/2009Jun/0016.html [42] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-comments/2008Oct/0003.html [43] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Aug/0064.html [44] http://larry.masinter.net/tag-versioning.html [45] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Aug/0037.html [46] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/20 [47] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/33 [48] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/20 [49] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/54 [50] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/299 [51] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/302 [52] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/305 [53] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Oct/0018.html [54] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/315 [55] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/316 [56] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/317 [57] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/319 [58] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/pendingreview [59] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/ [60] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/overdue [61] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/ Noah Mendelsohn for TAG $Revision: 1.1 $ of $Date: 2009/10/22 02:45:34 $ [62]Valid XHTML 1.1 [62] http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=referer |
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| Noah Mendelsohn
10/21/2009 10:49 PM |
To: www-tag@... cc: Subject: Agenda for TAG Teleconference of 22 October 2009 |
The agenda for tomorrow's TAG teleconference is now available at [1,2],
and in text-only form below.
Jonathan, please confirm whether you will be able to scribe. If Jonathan
is not available, the next in line for scribing are Ashok, John and Larry,
in that order. Also, please note that there is a high probability that
the telcon of 29 October will be cancelled, to allow all of us to get more
work done before heading out to TPAC. I am not yet formally announcing
cancellation, as there is some chance that we will want a brief call
specifically to discuss TPAC logistics and agendas. Thank you.
Noah
[1] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/tag-weekly
[2] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/10/22-agenda
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Noah Mendelsohn
IBM Corporation
One Rogers Street
Cambridge, MA 02142
1-617-693-4036
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[1]W3C | [2]TAG | Previous: : [3]8 Oct 2009 Next: 29 Oct 2009
[1] http://www.w3.org/
[2] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/
[3] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/10/08-agenda
Agenda of 22 Oct 2009 TAG teleconference
Nearby: [4]Teleconference details - [5]issues list and [6]Issue
Tracker ([7]handling new issues) - [8]www-tag archive - [9]tag
archive
1. Convene
+ Chair: Noah, Scribe: Jonathan Rees (unconfirmed)
+ Roll call -- Regrets: Tim
+ Note future regrets: Tim (29 (probable regrets); Nov: 12,
19, 26; 3 December: 3 (probable regrets))
+ Agenda Review - [10]this agenda
+ Next Telcon: 15 October 2009 Chair: Noah; Scribe: Jonathan
Rees (unconfirmed)
+ Future scribes: Ashok -> John -> Larry
2. Approve minutes of prior meeting(s)
+ Approve [11]Minutes of 23-25 September 2009 F2F
+ Approve [12]minutes of 1 October 2009 (the chair thinks we
might have approved these during our call of the 8th, but
doesn't see any record one way or the other)
+ Approve [13]minutes of 8 October 2009
3. Administrative items (Brief)
+ Reminder that, per [14]agreement on the 8th. our meetings
at TPAC have been moved to Monday afternoon and Friday
morning.
+ The TAG will hold a joint meeting with the HTML Working
group at TPAC on Thursday, after lunch. Exact time is still
TBD.
+ Proposal: tentatively, we will not meet next week on 29
October. However, because there may be value in having a
last minute discussion of TPAC planning, and because
procedurally it's easy to cancel a telcon last minute, but
impossible to schedule one, we will for the moment hold off
on formally cancelling.
+ The chair thanks those "shepherds" who have responded to
the [15]request to update issue status. Other TAG members
are requested to update their issues as soon as practical.
+ Reminder that a [16]Call for Exclusions has been sent for
patents relating to the [17]First Public Working Draft of
our Finding on Usage Patterns For Client-Side URL
parameters (call for exclusions [18]update). The call for
exclusions ends 22 October 2009 - two days from now.
+ Reminder of future F2F meetings:
o 2-6 November 2006 @ [19]W3C Technical Plenary, Santa
Clara, CA
o 8-10 December 2009 @ MIT (Per [20]resolution of 25
June 2009 - note that Raman and John Kemp have
confirmed the acceptability of this date, though Raman
is unsure he'll attend).
o 17-19 March 2010 @ MIT (per [21]decision at Sept. 2009
F2F)
4. Privacy policy
+ From [22]minutes of 8 Oct 2009: RESOLVED that that LMM edit
2009Sep/0073 lightly as discussed 8 Oct and Noah send to
Device APIs and Policy Working Group on behalf of the TAG
+ [23]ACTION-318 Send note to Device APIs and Policy (DAP)
Working Group on behalf of the TAG - on Noah Due: 15 Oct
2009
5. Forbidding hyperlinks
+ Background:
o Member-only [24]discussion asks about the increasing
prevalence of Web sites that forbid linking to both
the "home" page and to "nested" pages. Discussion
includes a [25]suggestion that the TAG become
involved.
o TAG Finding: [26]"Deep Linking" in the World Wide Web
(Sept. 2003)
+ Goals:
o Decide whether the TAG wishes to further investigate
the appropriateness of prohibitions on linking.
o If so, assign responsibility for further work.
6. HTML
+ Background:
o [27]Prioritized list of HTML-related issues,
originally developed at Sept. 2009 F2F. (An Open
Document Format [28].ods version and an Excel [29].xls
version are also available.)
+ Earlier background:
o Discussion of versioning and HTML at June 2009 TAG F2F
([30]session 1 and [31]session 2)
o June 2009 F2F discussion of [32]plans to review HTML 5
drafts
o [33]Architectural Considerations for Language
Versioning for the Web (Note from Larry Masinter and
Jonathan Rees)
o HTML working group intention to take HTML to W3C Last
Call sometime between October and December, 2009 (per
[34]note from HTML WG co-chair Sam Ruby)
o Paul Cotton and Maciej Stchowiak join Sam Ruby as HTML
WG co-chairs ([35]announcement)
o [36]Division of labour for TAG reading the HTML 5
draft specification that we [37]agreed to on July 23.
o Dan Connolly and Michael Sperberg-McQueen draft
[38]Web addresses in HTML 5, which is factored from
the HTML 5 draft. (see [39]email from Dan announcing
the draft). This was discussed on 23 April 2009 and
the associated [40]ACTION-253 requesting that Dan
brief us was closed.
o Ian Hickson [41]announces availability of initial
drafts of HTML 5 authoring specifications. This is, in
part, in response to a [42]suggestion made by Noah in
October 2008, shortly after the HTML/TAG joint working
group meeting at the Mandelieu Technical Plenary.
o Larry Masinter [43]announces new draft of
[44]Architectural Considerations for Language
Versioning for the Web . Chair's [45]response from
Noah (member-only).
+ TAG Issues relating to this discussion:
o [46]ISSUE-20 (errorHandling-20) What should
specifications say about error handling? shepherd:
Henry Thompson
o [47]ISSUE-33 (mixedUIXMLNamespace-33) Composability
for user interface-oriented XML namespaces (no
shepherd)
o [48]ISSUE-41 (LanguageVersioning-41) What are good
practices for designing extensible languages and for
handling versioning? shepherd: Larry Masinter
o [49]ISSUE-54 (TagSoupIntegration-54) Tag soup
integration. shepherd: Henry Thompson
+ TAG Actions relating to this discussion:
o [50]ACTION-299 on T.V. Raman: Notify the TAG when the
HTML WG gets closer to closing issue-4 html-versioning
- Due: 2009-10-15
o [51]ACTION-302 on Noah Mendelsohn: Raise (as
individual issue) question of 3 words "other
applicable specifictions" in 3.2.1 (3.3.1) of HTML 5
Due: 2009-10-20
o [52]ACTION-305 on Noah Mendelsohn: Schedule time at
TPAC for joint session with HTML WG - Due: 2009-10-15
(see: [53]email from Noah to HTML chairs)
o [54]ACTION-315 on Dan Connolly: Follow up on best plan
for HTML / TPAC Due: 2009-10-02
o [55]ACTION-316 on Henry Thompson: Henry S. Thompson to
draft for tag@... proposed TAG feedback on the
text/html media type registration in the 25 September
draft of HTML5 Due: 2009-10-02
o [56]ACTION-317 on T.V. Raman: Read
http://html5.digitalbazaar.com/specs/html5-epb.html
and send some notes to the TAG Due: 2009-10-20
o [57]ACTION-319 on Noah: Consider HTML media type issue
for TPAC agenda(s) Due: 2009-10-29
+ Goals:
o Continue technical discussion of HTML issues
identified at the F2Fn
7. Pending Review Items:
+ [58]Pending review actions in [59]Tracker
8. Overdue Action Items:
+ [60]Overdue actions in [61]Tracker
9. Any other business
_________________________________________________________
[4] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/#telcon
[5] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues
[6] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/
[7] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Jul/0054.
[8] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/
[9] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/
[10] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/10/22-agenda
[11] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/09/23-agenda
[12] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/10/01-minutes
[13] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/10/08-minutes
[14] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/10/08-minutes#item02
[15] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Oct/0051.html
[16] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009May/0068.html
[17] http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-hash-in-uri-20090415/
[18] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Aug/0030.html
[19] http://www.w3.org/2009/11/TPAC/
[20] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/25-minutes.html#item03
[21] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/09/25-minutes.html#item04
[22] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/10/08-minutes#item05
[23] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/318
[24]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ac-forum/2009OctDec/0058.html
[25]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ac-forum/2009OctDec/0084.html
[26] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/deeplinking-20030911
[27] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/09/HTMLIssuesRevised.pdf
[28] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/09/HTMLIssues.ods
[29] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/09/HTMLIssues.xls
[30] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/23-minutes.html#item03
[31] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/24-minutes.html#item03
[32] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/25-minutes.html#item06
[33]
http://w3.org/2001/tag/doc/versioning-html/versioning-html-20090611.html
[34] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Aug/0058.html
[35] http://www.w3.org/News/2009#item148
[36] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Jul/0026.html
[37] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/07/23-minutes#item03
[38]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Mar/att-0444/draft.html
[39]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Mar/0444.html
[40] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/253
[41]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-comments/2009Jun/0016.html
[42]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-comments/2008Oct/0003.html
[43] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Aug/0064.html
[44] http://larry.masinter.net/tag-versioning.html
[45] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Aug/0037.html
[46] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/20
[47] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/33
[48] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/20
[49] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/54
[50] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/299
[51] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/302
[52] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/305
[53] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Oct/0018.html
[54] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/315
[55] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/316
[56] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/317
[57] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/319
[58] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/pendingreview
[59] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/
[60] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/overdue
[61] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/
Noah Mendelsohn for TAG
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Re: Agenda for TAG Teleconference of 22 October 2009
by Jonathan Rees-3
::
Rate this Message:
Sorry, I hadn't realized that the message to which I referred, while logically addressed to the TAG, was not sent to www-tag, but only to Henry cc: the webapps WG. The message which seems to be asking us for a response from us is:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009OctDec/0095.html
which derives in turn from
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009AprJun/1215.html
Is anyone aware of any communication to the TAG that responds to the original question?
Jonathan
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009OctDec/0095.html
which derives in turn from
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009AprJun/1215.html
Is anyone aware of any communication to the TAG that responds to the original question?
Jonathan
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 9:21 AM, <noah_mendelsohn@...> wrote:
At the suggestion of Jonathan Rees, I have added the following agenda item:
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5. Security
* This is a late addition to the agenda, and the chair has not carefully recorded all background and pertinent links
* Background
o Email from Anne van Kesteren [1] requesting that the TAG provide any comments soon, as HTML 5 may be taken to Last Call shortly.
* Goals
o Decide next steps regarding Cross-Origin Resource Sharing (CORS)
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Thank you.
Noah
[1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Oct/0042.html
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Noah Mendelsohn
IBM Corporation
One Rogers Street
Cambridge, MA 02142
1-617-693-4036
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Noah Mendelsohn 10/21/2009 10:49 PM
To: www-tag@...
cc:
Subject: Agenda for TAG Teleconference of 22 October 2009
The agenda for tomorrow's TAG teleconference is now available at [1,2],
and in text-only form below.
Jonathan, please confirm whether you will be able to scribe. If Jonathan
is not available, the next in line for scribing are Ashok, John and Larry,
in that order. Also, please note that there is a high probability that
the telcon of 29 October will be cancelled, to allow all of us to get more
work done before heading out to TPAC. I am not yet formally announcing
cancellation, as there is some chance that we will want a brief call
specifically to discuss TPAC logistics and agendas. Thank you.
Noah
[1] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/tag-weekly
[2] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/10/22-agenda
--------------------------------------
Noah Mendelsohn
IBM Corporation
One Rogers Street
Cambridge, MA 02142
1-617-693-4036
--------------------------------------
[1]W3C | [2]TAG | Previous: : [3]8 Oct 2009 Next: 29 Oct 2009
[1] http://www.w3.org/
[2] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/
[3] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/10/08-agenda
Agenda of 22 Oct 2009 TAG teleconference
Nearby: [4]Teleconference details - [5]issues list and [6]Issue
Tracker ([7]handling new issues) - [8]www-tag archive - [9]tag
archive
1. Convene
+ Chair: Noah, Scribe: Jonathan Rees (unconfirmed)
+ Roll call -- Regrets: Tim
+ Note future regrets: Tim (29 (probable regrets); Nov: 12,
19, 26; 3 December: 3 (probable regrets))
+ Agenda Review - [10]this agenda
+ Next Telcon: 15 October 2009 Chair: Noah; Scribe: Jonathan
Rees (unconfirmed)
+ Future scribes: Ashok -> John -> Larry
2. Approve minutes of prior meeting(s)
+ Approve [11]Minutes of 23-25 September 2009 F2F
+ Approve [12]minutes of 1 October 2009 (the chair thinks we
might have approved these during our call of the 8th, but
doesn't see any record one way or the other)
+ Approve [13]minutes of 8 October 2009
3. Administrative items (Brief)
+ Reminder that, per [14]agreement on the 8th. our meetings
at TPAC have been moved to Monday afternoon and Friday
morning.
+ The TAG will hold a joint meeting with the HTML Working
group at TPAC on Thursday, after lunch. Exact time is still
TBD.
+ Proposal: tentatively, we will not meet next week on 29
October. However, because there may be value in having a
last minute discussion of TPAC planning, and because
procedurally it's easy to cancel a telcon last minute, but
impossible to schedule one, we will for the moment hold off
on formally cancelling.
+ The chair thanks those "shepherds" who have responded to
the [15]request to update issue status. Other TAG members
are requested to update their issues as soon as practical.
+ Reminder that a [16]Call for Exclusions has been sent for
patents relating to the [17]First Public Working Draft of
our Finding on Usage Patterns For Client-Side URL
parameters (call for exclusions [18]update). The call for
exclusions ends 22 October 2009 - two days from now.
+ Reminder of future F2F meetings:
o 2-6 November 2006 @ [19]W3C Technical Plenary, Santa
Clara, CA
o 8-10 December 2009 @ MIT (Per [20]resolution of 25
June 2009 - note that Raman and John Kemp have
confirmed the acceptability of this date, though Raman
is unsure he'll attend).
o 17-19 March 2010 @ MIT (per [21]decision at Sept. 2009
F2F)
4. Privacy policy
+ From [22]minutes of 8 Oct 2009: RESOLVED that that LMM edit
2009Sep/0073 lightly as discussed 8 Oct and Noah send to
Device APIs and Policy Working Group on behalf of the TAG
+ [23]ACTION-318 Send note to Device APIs and Policy (DAP)
Working Group on behalf of the TAG - on Noah Due: 15 Oct
2009
5. Forbidding hyperlinks
+ Background:
o Member-only [24]discussion asks about the increasing
prevalence of Web sites that forbid linking to both
the "home" page and to "nested" pages. Discussion
includes a [25]suggestion that the TAG become
involved.
o TAG Finding: [26]"Deep Linking" in the World Wide Web
(Sept. 2003)
+ Goals:
o Decide whether the TAG wishes to further investigate
the appropriateness of prohibitions on linking.
o If so, assign responsibility for further work.
6. HTML
+ Background:
o [27]Prioritized list of HTML-related issues,
originally developed at Sept. 2009 F2F. (An Open
Document Format [28].ods version and an Excel [29].xls
version are also available.)
+ Earlier background:
o Discussion of versioning and HTML at June 2009 TAG F2F
([30]session 1 and [31]session 2)
o June 2009 F2F discussion of [32]plans to review HTML 5
drafts
o [33]Architectural Considerations for Language
Versioning for the Web (Note from Larry Masinter and
Jonathan Rees)
o HTML working group intention to take HTML to W3C Last
Call sometime between October and December, 2009 (per
[34]note from HTML WG co-chair Sam Ruby)
o Paul Cotton and Maciej Stchowiak join Sam Ruby as HTML
WG co-chairs ([35]announcement)
o [36]Division of labour for TAG reading the HTML 5
draft specification that we [37]agreed to on July 23.
o Dan Connolly and Michael Sperberg-McQueen draft
[38]Web addresses in HTML 5, which is factored from
the HTML 5 draft. (see [39]email from Dan announcing
the draft). This was discussed on 23 April 2009 and
the associated [40]ACTION-253 requesting that Dan
brief us was closed.
o Ian Hickson [41]announces availability of initial
drafts of HTML 5 authoring specifications. This is, in
part, in response to a [42]suggestion made by Noah in
October 2008, shortly after the HTML/TAG joint working
group meeting at the Mandelieu Technical Plenary.
o Larry Masinter [43]announces new draft of
[44]Architectural Considerations for Language
Versioning for the Web . Chair's [45]response from
Noah (member-only).
+ TAG Issues relating to this discussion:
o [46]ISSUE-20 (errorHandling-20) What should
specifications say about error handling? shepherd:
Henry Thompson
o [47]ISSUE-33 (mixedUIXMLNamespace-33) Composability
for user interface-oriented XML namespaces (no
shepherd)
o [48]ISSUE-41 (LanguageVersioning-41) What are good
practices for designing extensible languages and for
handling versioning? shepherd: Larry Masinter
o [49]ISSUE-54 (TagSoupIntegration-54) Tag soup
integration. shepherd: Henry Thompson
+ TAG Actions relating to this discussion:
o [50]ACTION-299 on T.V. Raman: Notify the TAG when the
HTML WG gets closer to closing issue-4 html-versioning
- Due: 2009-10-15
o [51]ACTION-302 on Noah Mendelsohn: Raise (as
individual issue) question of 3 words "other
applicable specifictions" in 3.2.1 (3.3.1) of HTML 5
Due: 2009-10-20
o [52]ACTION-305 on Noah Mendelsohn: Schedule time at
TPAC for joint session with HTML WG - Due: 2009-10-15
(see: [53]email from Noah to HTML chairs)
o [54]ACTION-315 on Dan Connolly: Follow up on best plan
for HTML / TPAC Due: 2009-10-02
o [55]ACTION-316 on Henry Thompson: Henry S. Thompson to
draft for tag@... proposed TAG feedback on the
text/html media type registration in the 25 September
draft of HTML5 Due: 2009-10-02
o [56]ACTION-317 on T.V. Raman: Read
http://html5.digitalbazaar.com/specs/html5-epb.html
and send some notes to the TAG Due: 2009-10-20
o [57]ACTION-319 on Noah: Consider HTML media type issue
for TPAC agenda(s) Due: 2009-10-29
+ Goals:
o Continue technical discussion of HTML issues
identified at the F2Fn
7. Pending Review Items:
+ [58]Pending review actions in [59]Tracker
8. Overdue Action Items:
+ [60]Overdue actions in [61]Tracker
9. Any other business
_________________________________________________________
[4] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/#telcon
[5] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues
[6] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/
[7] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Jul/0054.
[8] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/
[9] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/
[10] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/10/22-agenda
[11] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/09/23-agenda
[12] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/10/01-minutes
[13] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/10/08-minutes
[14] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/10/08-minutes#item02
[15] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Oct/0051.html
[16] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009May/0068.html
[17] http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-hash-in-uri-20090415/
[18] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Aug/0030.html
[19] http://www.w3.org/2009/11/TPAC/
[20] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/25-minutes.html#item03
[21] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/09/25-minutes.html#item04
[22] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/10/08-minutes#item05
[23] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/318
[24]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ac-forum/2009OctDec/0058.html
[25]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ac-forum/2009OctDec/0084.html
[26] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/deeplinking-20030911
[27] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/09/HTMLIssuesRevised.pdf
[28] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/09/HTMLIssues.ods
[29] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/09/HTMLIssues.xls
[30] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/23-minutes.html#item03
[31] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/24-minutes.html#item03
[32] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/25-minutes.html#item06
[33]
http://w3.org/2001/tag/doc/versioning-html/versioning-html-20090611.html
[34] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Aug/0058.html
[35] http://www.w3.org/News/2009#item148
[36] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Jul/0026.html
[37] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/07/23-minutes#item03
[38]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Mar/att-0444/draft.html
[39]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Mar/0444.html
[40] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/253
[41]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-comments/2009Jun/0016.html
[42]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-comments/2008Oct/0003.html
[43] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Aug/0064.html
[44] http://larry.masinter.net/tag-versioning.html
[45] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Aug/0037.html
[46] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/20
[47] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/33
[48] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/20
[49] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/54
[50] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/299
[51] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/302
[52] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/305
[53] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Oct/0018.html
[54] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/315
[55] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/316
[56] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/317
[57] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/319
[58] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/pendingreview
[59] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/
[60] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/overdue
[61] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/
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Re: Agenda for TAG Teleconference of 22 October 2009
by noah_mendelsohn
::
Rate this Message:
If I get a free minute I'll link that from the agenda, you can just remind
us. Glad to see I wasn't missing anything I should have found in TAG
archives. Thanks.
Noah
--------------------------------------
Noah Mendelsohn
IBM Corporation
One Rogers Street
Cambridge, MA 02142
1-617-693-4036
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Jonathan Rees <jar@...>
10/22/2009 10:06 AM
To: noah_mendelsohn@...
cc: www-tag@...
Subject: Re: Agenda for TAG Teleconference of 22 October
2009
Sorry, I hadn't realized that the message to which I referred, while
logically addressed to the TAG, was not sent to www-tag, but only to Henry
cc: the webapps WG. The message which seems to be asking us for a
response from us is:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009OctDec/0095.html
which derives in turn from
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009AprJun/1215.html
Is anyone aware of any communication to the TAG that responds to the
original question?
Jonathan
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 9:21 AM, <noah_mendelsohn@...> wrote:
At the suggestion of Jonathan Rees, I have added the following agenda
item:
---------
5. Security
* This is a late addition to the agenda, and the chair has not
carefully recorded all background and pertinent links
* Background
o Email from Anne van Kesteren [1] requesting that the TAG
provide any comments soon, as HTML 5 may be taken to Last Call shortly.
* Goals
o Decide next steps regarding Cross-Origin Resource Sharing
(CORS)
---------
Thank you.
Noah
[1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Oct/0042.html
--------------------------------------
Noah Mendelsohn
IBM Corporation
One Rogers Street
Cambridge, MA 02142
1-617-693-4036
--------------------------------------
Noah Mendelsohn
10/21/2009 10:49 PM
To: www-tag@...
cc:
Subject: Agenda for TAG Teleconference of 22 October 2009
The agenda for tomorrow's TAG teleconference is now available at [1,2],
and in text-only form below.
Jonathan, please confirm whether you will be able to scribe. If Jonathan
is not available, the next in line for scribing are Ashok, John and Larry,
in that order. Also, please note that there is a high probability that
the telcon of 29 October will be cancelled, to allow all of us to get more
work done before heading out to TPAC. I am not yet formally announcing
cancellation, as there is some chance that we will want a brief call
specifically to discuss TPAC logistics and agendas. Thank you.
Noah
[1] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/tag-weekly
[2] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/10/22-agenda
--------------------------------------
Noah Mendelsohn
IBM Corporation
One Rogers Street
Cambridge, MA 02142
1-617-693-4036
--------------------------------------
[1]W3C | [2]TAG | Previous: : [3]8 Oct 2009 Next: 29 Oct 2009
[1] http://www.w3.org/
[2] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/
[3] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/10/08-agenda
Agenda of 22 Oct 2009 TAG teleconference
Nearby: [4]Teleconference details - [5]issues list and [6]Issue
Tracker ([7]handling new issues) - [8]www-tag archive - [9]tag
archive
1. Convene
+ Chair: Noah, Scribe: Jonathan Rees (unconfirmed)
+ Roll call -- Regrets: Tim
+ Note future regrets: Tim (29 (probable regrets); Nov: 12,
19, 26; 3 December: 3 (probable regrets))
+ Agenda Review - [10]this agenda
+ Next Telcon: 15 October 2009 Chair: Noah; Scribe: Jonathan
Rees (unconfirmed)
+ Future scribes: Ashok -> John -> Larry
2. Approve minutes of prior meeting(s)
+ Approve [11]Minutes of 23-25 September 2009 F2F
+ Approve [12]minutes of 1 October 2009 (the chair thinks we
might have approved these during our call of the 8th, but
doesn't see any record one way or the other)
+ Approve [13]minutes of 8 October 2009
3. Administrative items (Brief)
+ Reminder that, per [14]agreement on the 8th. our meetings
at TPAC have been moved to Monday afternoon and Friday
morning.
+ The TAG will hold a joint meeting with the HTML Working
group at TPAC on Thursday, after lunch. Exact time is still
TBD.
+ Proposal: tentatively, we will not meet next week on 29
October. However, because there may be value in having a
last minute discussion of TPAC planning, and because
procedurally it's easy to cancel a telcon last minute, but
impossible to schedule one, we will for the moment hold off
on formally cancelling.
+ The chair thanks those "shepherds" who have responded to
the [15]request to update issue status. Other TAG members
are requested to update their issues as soon as practical.
+ Reminder that a [16]Call for Exclusions has been sent for
patents relating to the [17]First Public Working Draft of
our Finding on Usage Patterns For Client-Side URL
parameters (call for exclusions [18]update). The call for
exclusions ends 22 October 2009 - two days from now.
+ Reminder of future F2F meetings:
o 2-6 November 2006 @ [19]W3C Technical Plenary, Santa
Clara, CA
o 8-10 December 2009 @ MIT (Per [20]resolution of 25
June 2009 - note that Raman and John Kemp have
confirmed the acceptability of this date, though Raman
is unsure he'll attend).
o 17-19 March 2010 @ MIT (per [21]decision at Sept. 2009
F2F)
4. Privacy policy
+ From [22]minutes of 8 Oct 2009: RESOLVED that that LMM edit
2009Sep/0073 lightly as discussed 8 Oct and Noah send to
Device APIs and Policy Working Group on behalf of the TAG
+ [23]ACTION-318 Send note to Device APIs and Policy (DAP)
Working Group on behalf of the TAG - on Noah Due: 15 Oct
2009
5. Forbidding hyperlinks
+ Background:
o Member-only [24]discussion asks about the increasing
prevalence of Web sites that forbid linking to both
the "home" page and to "nested" pages. Discussion
includes a [25]suggestion that the TAG become
involved.
o TAG Finding: [26]"Deep Linking" in the World Wide Web
(Sept. 2003)
+ Goals:
o Decide whether the TAG wishes to further investigate
the appropriateness of prohibitions on linking.
o If so, assign responsibility for further work.
6. HTML
+ Background:
o [27]Prioritized list of HTML-related issues,
originally developed at Sept. 2009 F2F. (An Open
Document Format [28].ods version and an Excel [29].xls
version are also available.)
+ Earlier background:
o Discussion of versioning and HTML at June 2009 TAG F2F
([30]session 1 and [31]session 2)
o June 2009 F2F discussion of [32]plans to review HTML 5
drafts
o [33]Architectural Considerations for Language
Versioning for the Web (Note from Larry Masinter and
Jonathan Rees)
o HTML working group intention to take HTML to W3C Last
Call sometime between October and December, 2009 (per
[34]note from HTML WG co-chair Sam Ruby)
o Paul Cotton and Maciej Stchowiak join Sam Ruby as HTML
WG co-chairs ([35]announcement)
o [36]Division of labour for TAG reading the HTML 5
draft specification that we [37]agreed to on July 23.
o Dan Connolly and Michael Sperberg-McQueen draft
[38]Web addresses in HTML 5, which is factored from
the HTML 5 draft. (see [39]email from Dan announcing
the draft). This was discussed on 23 April 2009 and
the associated [40]ACTION-253 requesting that Dan
brief us was closed.
o Ian Hickson [41]announces availability of initial
drafts of HTML 5 authoring specifications. This is, in
part, in response to a [42]suggestion made by Noah in
October 2008, shortly after the HTML/TAG joint working
group meeting at the Mandelieu Technical Plenary.
o Larry Masinter [43]announces new draft of
[44]Architectural Considerations for Language
Versioning for the Web . Chair's [45]response from
Noah (member-only).
+ TAG Issues relating to this discussion:
o [46]ISSUE-20 (errorHandling-20) What should
specifications say about error handling? shepherd:
Henry Thompson
o [47]ISSUE-33 (mixedUIXMLNamespace-33) Composability
for user interface-oriented XML namespaces (no
shepherd)
o [48]ISSUE-41 (LanguageVersioning-41) What are good
practices for designing extensible languages and for
handling versioning? shepherd: Larry Masinter
o [49]ISSUE-54 (TagSoupIntegration-54) Tag soup
integration. shepherd: Henry Thompson
+ TAG Actions relating to this discussion:
o [50]ACTION-299 on T.V. Raman: Notify the TAG when the
HTML WG gets closer to closing issue-4 html-versioning
- Due: 2009-10-15
o [51]ACTION-302 on Noah Mendelsohn: Raise (as
individual issue) question of 3 words "other
applicable specifictions" in 3.2.1 (3.3.1) of HTML 5
Due: 2009-10-20
o [52]ACTION-305 on Noah Mendelsohn: Schedule time at
TPAC for joint session with HTML WG - Due: 2009-10-15
(see: [53]email from Noah to HTML chairs)
o [54]ACTION-315 on Dan Connolly: Follow up on best plan
for HTML / TPAC Due: 2009-10-02
o [55]ACTION-316 on Henry Thompson: Henry S. Thompson to
draft for tag@... proposed TAG feedback on the
text/html media type registration in the 25 September
draft of HTML5 Due: 2009-10-02
o [56]ACTION-317 on T.V. Raman: Read
http://html5.digitalbazaar.com/specs/html5-epb.html
and send some notes to the TAG Due: 2009-10-20
o [57]ACTION-319 on Noah: Consider HTML media type issue
for TPAC agenda(s) Due: 2009-10-29
+ Goals:
o Continue technical discussion of HTML issues
identified at the F2Fn
7. Pending Review Items:
+ [58]Pending review actions in [59]Tracker
8. Overdue Action Items:
+ [60]Overdue actions in [61]Tracker
9. Any other business
_________________________________________________________
[4] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/#telcon
[5] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues
[6] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/
[7] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Jul/0054.
[8] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/
[9] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/
[10] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/10/22-agenda
[11] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/09/23-agenda
[12] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/10/01-minutes
[13] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/10/08-minutes
[14] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/10/08-minutes#item02
[15] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Oct/0051.html
[16] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009May/0068.html
[17] http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-hash-in-uri-20090415/
[18] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Aug/0030.html
[19] http://www.w3.org/2009/11/TPAC/
[20] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/25-minutes.html#item03
[21] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/09/25-minutes.html#item04
[22] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/10/08-minutes#item05
[23] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/318
[24]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ac-forum/2009OctDec/0058.html
[25]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ac-forum/2009OctDec/0084.html
[26] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/deeplinking-20030911
[27] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/09/HTMLIssuesRevised.pdf
[28] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/09/HTMLIssues.ods
[29] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/09/HTMLIssues.xls
[30] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/23-minutes.html#item03
[31] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/24-minutes.html#item03
[32] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/25-minutes.html#item06
[33]
http://w3.org/2001/tag/doc/versioning-html/versioning-html-20090611.html
[34] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Aug/0058.html
[35] http://www.w3.org/News/2009#item148
[36] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Jul/0026.html
[37] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/07/23-minutes#item03
[38]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Mar/att-0444/draft.html
[39]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Mar/0444.html
[40] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/253
[41]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-comments/2009Jun/0016.html
[42]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-comments/2008Oct/0003.html
[43] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Aug/0064.html
[44] http://larry.masinter.net/tag-versioning.html
[45] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Aug/0037.html
[46] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/20
[47] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/33
[48] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/20
[49] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/54
[50] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/299
[51] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/302
[52] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/305
[53] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Oct/0018.html
[54] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/315
[55] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/316
[56] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/317
[57] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/319
[58] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/pendingreview
[59] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/
[60] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/overdue
[61] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/
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us. Glad to see I wasn't missing anything I should have found in TAG
archives. Thanks.
Noah
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Noah Mendelsohn
IBM Corporation
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Cambridge, MA 02142
1-617-693-4036
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Jonathan Rees <jar@...>
10/22/2009 10:06 AM
To: noah_mendelsohn@...
cc: www-tag@...
Subject: Re: Agenda for TAG Teleconference of 22 October
2009
Sorry, I hadn't realized that the message to which I referred, while
logically addressed to the TAG, was not sent to www-tag, but only to Henry
cc: the webapps WG. The message which seems to be asking us for a
response from us is:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009OctDec/0095.html
which derives in turn from
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009AprJun/1215.html
Is anyone aware of any communication to the TAG that responds to the
original question?
Jonathan
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 9:21 AM, <noah_mendelsohn@...> wrote:
At the suggestion of Jonathan Rees, I have added the following agenda
item:
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5. Security
* This is a late addition to the agenda, and the chair has not
carefully recorded all background and pertinent links
* Background
o Email from Anne van Kesteren [1] requesting that the TAG
provide any comments soon, as HTML 5 may be taken to Last Call shortly.
* Goals
o Decide next steps regarding Cross-Origin Resource Sharing
(CORS)
---------
Thank you.
Noah
[1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Oct/0042.html
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Noah Mendelsohn
IBM Corporation
One Rogers Street
Cambridge, MA 02142
1-617-693-4036
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Noah Mendelsohn
10/21/2009 10:49 PM
To: www-tag@...
cc:
Subject: Agenda for TAG Teleconference of 22 October 2009
The agenda for tomorrow's TAG teleconference is now available at [1,2],
and in text-only form below.
Jonathan, please confirm whether you will be able to scribe. If Jonathan
is not available, the next in line for scribing are Ashok, John and Larry,
in that order. Also, please note that there is a high probability that
the telcon of 29 October will be cancelled, to allow all of us to get more
work done before heading out to TPAC. I am not yet formally announcing
cancellation, as there is some chance that we will want a brief call
specifically to discuss TPAC logistics and agendas. Thank you.
Noah
[1] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/tag-weekly
[2] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/10/22-agenda
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Noah Mendelsohn
IBM Corporation
One Rogers Street
Cambridge, MA 02142
1-617-693-4036
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[1]W3C | [2]TAG | Previous: : [3]8 Oct 2009 Next: 29 Oct 2009
[1] http://www.w3.org/
[2] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/
[3] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/10/08-agenda
Agenda of 22 Oct 2009 TAG teleconference
Nearby: [4]Teleconference details - [5]issues list and [6]Issue
Tracker ([7]handling new issues) - [8]www-tag archive - [9]tag
archive
1. Convene
+ Chair: Noah, Scribe: Jonathan Rees (unconfirmed)
+ Roll call -- Regrets: Tim
+ Note future regrets: Tim (29 (probable regrets); Nov: 12,
19, 26; 3 December: 3 (probable regrets))
+ Agenda Review - [10]this agenda
+ Next Telcon: 15 October 2009 Chair: Noah; Scribe: Jonathan
Rees (unconfirmed)
+ Future scribes: Ashok -> John -> Larry
2. Approve minutes of prior meeting(s)
+ Approve [11]Minutes of 23-25 September 2009 F2F
+ Approve [12]minutes of 1 October 2009 (the chair thinks we
might have approved these during our call of the 8th, but
doesn't see any record one way or the other)
+ Approve [13]minutes of 8 October 2009
3. Administrative items (Brief)
+ Reminder that, per [14]agreement on the 8th. our meetings
at TPAC have been moved to Monday afternoon and Friday
morning.
+ The TAG will hold a joint meeting with the HTML Working
group at TPAC on Thursday, after lunch. Exact time is still
TBD.
+ Proposal: tentatively, we will not meet next week on 29
October. However, because there may be value in having a
last minute discussion of TPAC planning, and because
procedurally it's easy to cancel a telcon last minute, but
impossible to schedule one, we will for the moment hold off
on formally cancelling.
+ The chair thanks those "shepherds" who have responded to
the [15]request to update issue status. Other TAG members
are requested to update their issues as soon as practical.
+ Reminder that a [16]Call for Exclusions has been sent for
patents relating to the [17]First Public Working Draft of
our Finding on Usage Patterns For Client-Side URL
parameters (call for exclusions [18]update). The call for
exclusions ends 22 October 2009 - two days from now.
+ Reminder of future F2F meetings:
o 2-6 November 2006 @ [19]W3C Technical Plenary, Santa
Clara, CA
o 8-10 December 2009 @ MIT (Per [20]resolution of 25
June 2009 - note that Raman and John Kemp have
confirmed the acceptability of this date, though Raman
is unsure he'll attend).
o 17-19 March 2010 @ MIT (per [21]decision at Sept. 2009
F2F)
4. Privacy policy
+ From [22]minutes of 8 Oct 2009: RESOLVED that that LMM edit
2009Sep/0073 lightly as discussed 8 Oct and Noah send to
Device APIs and Policy Working Group on behalf of the TAG
+ [23]ACTION-318 Send note to Device APIs and Policy (DAP)
Working Group on behalf of the TAG - on Noah Due: 15 Oct
2009
5. Forbidding hyperlinks
+ Background:
o Member-only [24]discussion asks about the increasing
prevalence of Web sites that forbid linking to both
the "home" page and to "nested" pages. Discussion
includes a [25]suggestion that the TAG become
involved.
o TAG Finding: [26]"Deep Linking" in the World Wide Web
(Sept. 2003)
+ Goals:
o Decide whether the TAG wishes to further investigate
the appropriateness of prohibitions on linking.
o If so, assign responsibility for further work.
6. HTML
+ Background:
o [27]Prioritized list of HTML-related issues,
originally developed at Sept. 2009 F2F. (An Open
Document Format [28].ods version and an Excel [29].xls
version are also available.)
+ Earlier background:
o Discussion of versioning and HTML at June 2009 TAG F2F
([30]session 1 and [31]session 2)
o June 2009 F2F discussion of [32]plans to review HTML 5
drafts
o [33]Architectural Considerations for Language
Versioning for the Web (Note from Larry Masinter and
Jonathan Rees)
o HTML working group intention to take HTML to W3C Last
Call sometime between October and December, 2009 (per
[34]note from HTML WG co-chair Sam Ruby)
o Paul Cotton and Maciej Stchowiak join Sam Ruby as HTML
WG co-chairs ([35]announcement)
o [36]Division of labour for TAG reading the HTML 5
draft specification that we [37]agreed to on July 23.
o Dan Connolly and Michael Sperberg-McQueen draft
[38]Web addresses in HTML 5, which is factored from
the HTML 5 draft. (see [39]email from Dan announcing
the draft). This was discussed on 23 April 2009 and
the associated [40]ACTION-253 requesting that Dan
brief us was closed.
o Ian Hickson [41]announces availability of initial
drafts of HTML 5 authoring specifications. This is, in
part, in response to a [42]suggestion made by Noah in
October 2008, shortly after the HTML/TAG joint working
group meeting at the Mandelieu Technical Plenary.
o Larry Masinter [43]announces new draft of
[44]Architectural Considerations for Language
Versioning for the Web . Chair's [45]response from
Noah (member-only).
+ TAG Issues relating to this discussion:
o [46]ISSUE-20 (errorHandling-20) What should
specifications say about error handling? shepherd:
Henry Thompson
o [47]ISSUE-33 (mixedUIXMLNamespace-33) Composability
for user interface-oriented XML namespaces (no
shepherd)
o [48]ISSUE-41 (LanguageVersioning-41) What are good
practices for designing extensible languages and for
handling versioning? shepherd: Larry Masinter
o [49]ISSUE-54 (TagSoupIntegration-54) Tag soup
integration. shepherd: Henry Thompson
+ TAG Actions relating to this discussion:
o [50]ACTION-299 on T.V. Raman: Notify the TAG when the
HTML WG gets closer to closing issue-4 html-versioning
- Due: 2009-10-15
o [51]ACTION-302 on Noah Mendelsohn: Raise (as
individual issue) question of 3 words "other
applicable specifictions" in 3.2.1 (3.3.1) of HTML 5
Due: 2009-10-20
o [52]ACTION-305 on Noah Mendelsohn: Schedule time at
TPAC for joint session with HTML WG - Due: 2009-10-15
(see: [53]email from Noah to HTML chairs)
o [54]ACTION-315 on Dan Connolly: Follow up on best plan
for HTML / TPAC Due: 2009-10-02
o [55]ACTION-316 on Henry Thompson: Henry S. Thompson to
draft for tag@... proposed TAG feedback on the
text/html media type registration in the 25 September
draft of HTML5 Due: 2009-10-02
o [56]ACTION-317 on T.V. Raman: Read
http://html5.digitalbazaar.com/specs/html5-epb.html
and send some notes to the TAG Due: 2009-10-20
o [57]ACTION-319 on Noah: Consider HTML media type issue
for TPAC agenda(s) Due: 2009-10-29
+ Goals:
o Continue technical discussion of HTML issues
identified at the F2Fn
7. Pending Review Items:
+ [58]Pending review actions in [59]Tracker
8. Overdue Action Items:
+ [60]Overdue actions in [61]Tracker
9. Any other business
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[4] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/#telcon
[5] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues
[6] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/
[7] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Jul/0054.
[8] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/
[9] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/
[10] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/10/22-agenda
[11] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/09/23-agenda
[12] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/10/01-minutes
[13] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/10/08-minutes
[14] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/10/08-minutes#item02
[15] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Oct/0051.html
[16] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009May/0068.html
[17] http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-hash-in-uri-20090415/
[18] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Aug/0030.html
[19] http://www.w3.org/2009/11/TPAC/
[20] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/25-minutes.html#item03
[21] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/09/25-minutes.html#item04
[22] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/10/08-minutes#item05
[23] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/318
[24]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ac-forum/2009OctDec/0058.html
[25]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ac-forum/2009OctDec/0084.html
[26] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/deeplinking-20030911
[27] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/09/HTMLIssuesRevised.pdf
[28] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/09/HTMLIssues.ods
[29] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/09/HTMLIssues.xls
[30] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/23-minutes.html#item03
[31] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/24-minutes.html#item03
[32] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/25-minutes.html#item06
[33]
http://w3.org/2001/tag/doc/versioning-html/versioning-html-20090611.html
[34] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Aug/0058.html
[35] http://www.w3.org/News/2009#item148
[36] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Jul/0026.html
[37] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/07/23-minutes#item03
[38]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Mar/att-0444/draft.html
[39]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Mar/0444.html
[40] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/253
[41]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-comments/2009Jun/0016.html
[42]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-comments/2008Oct/0003.html
[43] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Aug/0064.html
[44] http://larry.masinter.net/tag-versioning.html
[45] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Aug/0037.html
[46] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/20
[47] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/33
[48] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/20
[49] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/54
[50] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/299
[51] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/302
[52] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/305
[53] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Oct/0018.html
[54] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/315
[55] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/316
[56] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/317
[57] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/319
[58] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/pendingreview
[59] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/
[60] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/overdue
[61] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/
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