Akonadi server

I upgraded to Ubuntu 9.10 and the first thing I was presented with was
a dialog box telling me that Akonadi server had failed to start.  The
dialog was very complex, listing various components with their status.
 Something to do with errors in my mysql server log (?).

It did not tell me at all what Akonadi was, whether the error serious,
and what to do.

I think that this sort of thing really has a negative impact on first
impressions.

Worse still, I get this error box every time I start up KDE.  And
there's no clue on how to get it to just go away.

John
 
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在 2009 年 10 月 23 日 星期五 10:10:05，John Tapsell 寫道:

> I upgraded to Ubuntu 9.10 and the first thing I was presented with was
> a dialog box telling me that Akonadi server had failed to start.  The
> dialog was very complex, listing various components with their status.
>  Something to do with errors in my mysql server log (?).
>
> It did not tell me at all what Akonadi was, whether the error serious,
> and what to do.
>
> I think that this sort of thing really has a negative impact on first
> impressions.
>
> Worse still, I get this error box every time I start up KDE.  And
> there's no clue on how to get it to just go away.
>
> John
>
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>

This might be better to put in kde-user.

For me, I solved the annoying startup warning problem.  However, I still had
no any idea about how it worked, and any further advanced usage.


Franklin


 
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2009/10/23 Frank Weng (a.k.a. Franklin) <franklin@...>:

> 在 2009 年 10 月 23 日 星期五 10:10:05，John Tapsell 寫道:
>> I upgraded to Ubuntu 9.10 and the first thing I was presented with was
>> a dialog box telling me that Akonadi server had failed to start.  The
>> dialog was very complex, listing various components with their status.
>>  Something to do with errors in my mysql server log (?).
>>
>> It did not tell me at all what Akonadi was, whether the error serious,
>> and what to do.
>>
>> I think that this sort of thing really has a negative impact on first
>> impressions.
>>
>> Worse still, I get this error box every time I start up KDE.  And
>> there's no clue on how to get it to just go away.
>>
>> John
>>
>> >> Visit http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-devel#unsub to
>> >> unsubscribe <<
>>
>
> This might be better to put in kde-user.

I'm not trying to find a solution for myself.  I'm sure I can fix it.
I want to get it fixed for everyone else :-)

John
 
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On 23/10-2009 04:10 John Tapsell <johnflux@...> wrote:

> I upgraded to Ubuntu 9.10 and the first thing I was presented with was
> a dialog box telling me that Akonadi server had failed to start.  The
> dialog was very complex, listing various components with their status.
>  Something to do with errors in my mysql server log (?).
>
> It did not tell me at all what Akonadi was, whether the error serious,
> and what to do.
>
> I think that this sort of thing really has a negative impact on first
> impressions.
>
> Worse still, I get this error box every time I start up KDE.  And
> there's no clue on how to get it to just go away.
>
> John
>
> >> Visit http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-devel#unsub to
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>

You should probably report it at:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug

or:

https://bugs.kde.org/

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  Thomas Olsen

 
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On Friday 23 October 2009 05:44:57 Thomas Olsen wrote:
> On 23/10-2009 04:10 John Tapsell <johnflux@...> wrote:
> > I upgraded to Ubuntu 9.10 and the first thing I was presented with was
> > a dialog box telling me that Akonadi server had failed to start.  The
> > dialog was very complex, listing various components with their status.
> >  Something to do with errors in my mysql server log (?).
> >
> > It did not tell me at all what Akonadi was, whether the error serious,
> > and what to do.

the dialog certainly can be improved, but it contains hints on how to fix the
most common problems as well as a link to the wiki which contains much more
detailed information.

> > I think that this sort of thing really has a negative impact on first
> > impressions.

was that a clean distro installation or a self-compiled KDE? I thought most
distros had fixed their MySQL problems by now, but Ubuntu was one of those
that caused the most trouble: http://userbase.kde.org/Akonadi#Apparmor .

> > Worse still, I get this error box every time I start up KDE.  And
> > there's no clue on how to get it to just go away.
> >
> > John
> >
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> You should probably report it at:
>
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug

it is most likely a setup problem (which is what this self-test dialog is
supposed to detect in the first place), especially if this is a clean
distro installation, in this case please report to the distro, not KDE.

regards
Volker



 
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2009/10/23 Volker Krause <vkrause@...>:

> On Friday 23 October 2009 05:44:57 Thomas Olsen wrote:
>> On 23/10-2009 04:10 John Tapsell <johnflux@...> wrote:
>> > I upgraded to Ubuntu 9.10 and the first thing I was presented with was
>> > a dialog box telling me that Akonadi server had failed to start.  The
>> > dialog was very complex, listing various components with their status.
>> >  Something to do with errors in my mysql server log (?).
>> >
>> > It did not tell me at all what Akonadi was, whether the error serious,
>> > and what to do.
>
> the dialog certainly can be improved, but it contains hints on how to fix the
> most common problems as well as a link to the wiki which contains much more
> detailed information

Imho, it should say:

1) What Akonadi is
2) That it failed, and what the implication is of not having it.
3) A "Never show this error again" button, or "Disable Akonadi" or something

Technical details, wiki links, etc, can go in a  [Details>>>] button.

John
 
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Op Friday 23 October 2009 09:57 schreef u:
> 3) A "Never show this error again" button, or "Disable Akonadi" or something

That's silly. If plasma crashes at startup you would like a dialog saying 'Disable Plasma' or 'Never show this error again' ?

Users should never see the dialog, distro's should test that.

Best,

Toma
 
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[Anne Wilson-5]

On Friday 23 October 2009 03:15:22 Frank Weng (a.k.a. Franklin) wrote:

> 在 2009 年 10 月 23 日 星期五 10:10:05，John Tapsell 寫道:
> > I upgraded to Ubuntu 9.10 and the first thing I was presented with was
> > a dialog box telling me that Akonadi server had failed to start.  The
> > dialog was very complex, listing various components with their status.
> >  Something to do with errors in my mysql server log (?).
> >
> > It did not tell me at all what Akonadi was, whether the error serious,
> > and what to do.
> >
> > I think that this sort of thing really has a negative impact on first
> > impressions.
> >
> > Worse still, I get this error box every time I start up KDE.  And
> > there's no clue on how to get it to just go away.
> >
>
> This might be better to put in kde-user.
>

No, it won't help.  I've been asking this question for 6 months, and even

asked several people at GCDS, and still haven't got any answer.  My symptoms
are exactly as John describes, plus something about not registering with DBus.  
I've seen others describe the same symptoms.  We still have no idea what to do
about it.

> For me, I solved the annoying startup warning problem.  However, I still
>  had no any idea about how it worked, and any further advanced usage.
>
If either you or John can shed any light on this I'll gladly file it on
UserBase and feed it into MLs when appropriate.  Thanks

Anne
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Op Friday 23 October 2009 11:15 schreef u:

> On Friday 23 October 2009 03:15:22 Frank Weng (a.k.a. Franklin) wrote:
> > ? 2009 ? 10 ? 23 ? ??? 10:10:05?John Tapsell ??:
> > > I upgraded to Ubuntu 9.10 and the first thing I was presented with was
> > > a dialog box telling me that Akonadi server had failed to start.  The
> > > dialog was very complex, listing various components with their status.
> > >  Something to do with errors in my mysql server log (?).
> > >
> > > It did not tell me at all what Akonadi was, whether the error serious,
> > > and what to do.
> > >
> > > I think that this sort of thing really has a negative impact on first
> > > impressions.
> > >
> > > Worse still, I get this error box every time I start up KDE.  And
> > > there's no clue on how to get it to just go away.
> > >
> >
> > This might be better to put in kde-user.
> >
> No, it won't help.  I've been asking this question for 6 months, and even
> asked several people at GCDS, and still haven't got any answer.  My symptoms
> are exactly as John describes, plus something about not registering with DBus.  
> I've seen others describe the same symptoms.  We still have no idea what to do
> about it.
>
> > For me, I solved the annoying startup warning problem.  However, I still
> >  had no any idea about how it worked, and any further advanced usage.
> >
> If either you or John can shed any light on this I'll gladly file it on
> UserBase and feed it into MLs when appropriate.  Thanks
>
> Anne

The report the dialog generates can be attached to a bugreport.
Or hop into the #akonadi channel for live support.

Toma

 
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