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Hi Andreas,

since you already had a look at the bug, maybe this is related:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!-- edited with XMLSpy v2006 sp1 U (http://www.altova.com) by Joerg Geyer (Geneon media solutions gmbh) -->
<fo:root xmlns:fo="http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Format" xmlns:fox="http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/extensions">
        <fo:layout-master-set>
                <fo:simple-page-master page-height="10cm" page-width="10cm" master-name="main">
                        <fo:region-body/>
                </fo:simple-page-master>
        </fo:layout-master-set>
        <fo:page-sequence master-reference="main">
                <fo:flow flow-name="xsl-region-body">
                        <fo:block text-align="right" background-color="rgb(255, 0, 0)" id="1">
                                <fo:inline/>
                                <fo:inline text-align="right" background-color="rgb(255, 255, 0)">
                                        <fo:page-number-citation ref-id="1" background-color="orange" text-align="right"/>
                                </fo:inline>
                        </fo:block>
                        <fo:block background-color="rgb(0, 250, 0)" text-align="right">
                                <fo:inline text-align="right" background-color="rgb(255, 255, 0)">
                                        <fo:page-number-citation ref-id="1" background-color="orange" text-align="right"/>
                                </fo:inline>
                        </fo:block>
                </fo:flow>
        </fo:page-sequence>
</fo:root>

The flow contains two nearly identical blocks, only the first block contains an additional empty inline. In the result, I'd not expect the inline to result in visual difference. But: The second block is aligned right, the first block is not quite. Filling the empty inline, even with only a non-breaking space, solves the problem.

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Re: Another alignment thing, maybe related to [Bug 47380]

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On 18 Jun 2009, at 12:00, Georg Datterl wrote:

Hi Georg

> since you already had a look at the bug, maybe this is related:
>
> <snip />
> The flow contains two nearly identical blocks, only the first block  
> contains an additional empty inline. In the result, I'd not expect  
> the inline to result in visual difference. But: The second block is  
> aligned right, the first block is not quite. Filling the empty  
> inline, even with only a non-breaking space, solves the problem.

Which version/revision did you try exactly? I just tried with current  
FOP Trunk, and the output does not show any difference between the two  
blocks (apart from the background-color, obviously...)

Could still be that I have made some local changes that fix the issue,  
but I'd rather see this confirmed before digging deeper...


Thanks!


Regards

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AW: Another alignment thing, maybe related to [Bug 47380]

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Hi Andreas,

Latest version. Just checked, no updates in svn since yesterday.

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Von: Andreas Delmelle [mailto:andreas.delmelle@...]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 18. Juni 2009 12:19
An: fop-users@...
Betreff: Re: Another alignment thing, maybe related to [Bug 47380]

On 18 Jun 2009, at 12:00, Georg Datterl wrote:

Hi Georg

> since you already had a look at the bug, maybe this is related:
>
> <snip />
> The flow contains two nearly identical blocks, only the first block
> contains an additional empty inline. In the result, I'd not expect the
> inline to result in visual difference. But: The second block is
> aligned right, the first block is not quite. Filling the empty inline,
> even with only a non-breaking space, solves the problem.

Which version/revision did you try exactly? I just tried with current FOP Trunk, and the output does not show any difference between the two blocks (apart from the background-color, obviously...)

Could still be that I have made some local changes that fix the issue, but I'd rather see this confirmed before digging deeper...


Thanks!


Regards

Andreas

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Re: AW: Another alignment thing, maybe related to [Bug 47380]

by Andreas Delmelle-2 :: Rate this Message:

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On 18 Jun 2009, at 12:26, Georg Datterl wrote:

Hi Georg

> Latest version. Just checked, no updates in svn since yesterday.

What I feared... ;-)
That means I have /some/ local change(s) that would solve the issue.  
Only I have no idea at the moment /where/ precisely. I'm almost done  
with a basic implementation for keep-*.within-column. As soon as the  
commit has been made, I'll run the test against Trunk again, and see  
if it persists. If not, I'll definitely add your sample to the test-
suite. If yes, then at least I have a lot less classes to check.

More later.

Thanks!

Andreas


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Parent Message unknown AW: Another alignment thing, maybe related to [Bug 47380]

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Hi Andreas,

Still another thing: the same table of contents that showed the earlier reported errors still showed on error: When running the fo-file from my application, the fo:page-number-citation element was left aligned, although the fo (snippet below) clearly said text-align="right". I ran the fo file through fop directly and everything worked fine. Now I know what's the difference:
       
        foUserAgent.setConserveMemoryPolicy(true);  

When commenting this line in my application, the page number is aligned right, uncommenting it aligns the page number left and the additional three output lines ( most likely because I have three page-number-citation elements in my TOC) from area.Area

WARN  apps.FOUserAgent [main]: Line 1 of a paragraph overflows the available area by 2157 millipoints. (Siehe Position 25986:433)
WARN  area.Area [main]: Cannot update the IPD of an unresolved page number. No font information available.
WARN  area.Area [main]: Cannot update the IPD of an unresolved page number. No font information available.
WARN  area.Area [main]: Cannot update the IPD of an unresolved page number. No font information available.
WARN  apps.FOUserAgent [main]: Content overflows the viewport of an fo:block-container in block-progression direction by 5198 millipoints. (Siehe Position 30933:2125)

during PDF creation. Maybe that's helpfull. What I find interesting is, the error appears somewhere after generating all the pages, since the table of contents is far earlier than Position 25986. I guess, it appears when the page-number-citation is revisited with the actual page numbers.

Are there any requirements for using setConserveMemoryPolicy? I only added the above line, because I have long page sequences I can not shorten.

Here's the snippet showing the error, generating a complete testcase would take some me some time, just shout, if you think it's necessary:

<fo:table-cell border-bottom-style="solid" border-bottom-width="0.6pt" padding-before="0.8503937pt" padding-after="0.8503937pt" text-align="right" display-align="before">
        <fo:block-container>
                <fo:block>
                        <fo:block line-height="7.5pt" text-align="right">
                                <fo:inline font-family="arial unicode ms" font-size="7.5pt" line-height="7.5pt" text-align="right">
                                        <fo:page-number-citation ref-id="3" text-align="right"/>
                                </fo:inline>
                        </fo:block>
                </fo:block>
        </fo:block-container>
</fo:table-cell>

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Re: AW: Another alignment thing, maybe related to [Bug 47380]

by Andreas Delmelle-2 :: Rate this Message:

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On 24 Jun 2009, at 15:34, Georg Datterl wrote:

Hi Georg

> <snip />
> Maybe that's helpfull.

Definitely! I just looked at the code for  
org.apache.fop.area.inline.UnresolvedPageNumber, and the issue is that  
those areas are serializable, but the Font instance member is  
explicitly declared as 'transient', which means it will never be  
serialized/deserialized.

> What I find interesting is, the error appears somewhere after  
> generating all the pages, since the table of contents is far earlier  
> than Position 25986. I guess, it appears when the page-number-
> citation is revisited with the actual page numbers.

Indeed.

> Are there any requirements for using setConserveMemoryPolicy? I only  
> added the above line, because I have long page sequences I can not  
> shorten.
>

The setConserveMemoryPolicy() option was introduced into Trunk fairly  
recently.
Currently, its only effect is precisely to serialize pages containing  
unresolved forward references to disk, to avoid having to keep them in  
memory until they can be resolved.

If the document runs without enabling that option, then there's your  
workaround for the moment.

If your TOC is in a separate page-sequence (with its own numbering),  
you could also consider moving it to the end of the FO file. Using the  
new IF or area tree XML, it should prove rather easy to relocate the  
corresponding pages to the beginning of the document. Such a strategy  
would at least avoid forward references (may also lead to a much  
better-looking layout, since all the page-numbers would be known)


Thanks for the extra info. I'll look deeper into it as soon as I see  
the opportunity.


Regards

Andreas

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AW: AW: Another alignment thing, maybe related to [Bug 47380]

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Hi Andreas,  

Thanks for the help. Since I am rebuilding fop.jar anyway, wouldn't it work if I just declare the font member not-transient?

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Von: Andreas Delmelle [mailto:andreas.delmelle@...]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 24. Juni 2009 16:38
An: fop-users@...
Betreff: Re: AW: Another alignment thing, maybe related to [Bug 47380]

On 24 Jun 2009, at 15:34, Georg Datterl wrote:

Hi Georg

> <snip />
> Maybe that's helpfull.

Definitely! I just looked at the code for org.apache.fop.area.inline.UnresolvedPageNumber, and the issue is that those areas are serializable, but the Font instance member is explicitly declared as 'transient', which means it will never be serialized/deserialized.

> What I find interesting is, the error appears somewhere after
> generating all the pages, since the table of contents is far earlier
> than Position 25986. I guess, it appears when the page-number-
> citation is revisited with the actual page numbers.

Indeed.

> Are there any requirements for using setConserveMemoryPolicy? I only
> added the above line, because I have long page sequences I can not
> shorten.
>

The setConserveMemoryPolicy() option was introduced into Trunk fairly recently.
Currently, its only effect is precisely to serialize pages containing unresolved forward references to disk, to avoid having to keep them in memory until they can be resolved.

If the document runs without enabling that option, then there's your workaround for the moment.

If your TOC is in a separate page-sequence (with its own numbering), you could also consider moving it to the end of the FO file. Using the new IF or area tree XML, it should prove rather easy to relocate the corresponding pages to the beginning of the document. Such a strategy would at least avoid forward references (may also lead to a much better-looking layout, since all the page-numbers would be known)


Thanks for the extra info. I'll look deeper into it as soon as I see the opportunity.


Regards

Andreas

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Re: AW: AW: Another alignment thing, maybe related to [Bug 47380]

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On 24 Jun 2009, at 16:43, Georg Datterl wrote:

Hi Georg

> Thanks for the help. Since I am rebuilding fop.jar anyway, wouldn't  
> it work if I just declare the font member not-transient?

Unfortunately not. The Java runtime will try to serialize the  
UnresolvedPageNumber, and throw a NonSerializableException because  
Font does not implement the java.io.Serializable interface.

It will take a bit more work to correct this issue, I'm afraid...

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AW: AW: AW: Another alignment thing, maybe related to [Bug 47380]

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Hi Andreas,

Pity. But proves again: For every problem there's a simple, obvious and wrong solution.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
 
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Von: Andreas Delmelle [mailto:andreas.delmelle@...]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 24. Juni 2009 17:16
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Betreff: Re: AW: AW: Another alignment thing, maybe related to [Bug 47380]

On 24 Jun 2009, at 16:43, Georg Datterl wrote:

Hi Georg

> Thanks for the help. Since I am rebuilding fop.jar anyway, wouldn't it
> work if I just declare the font member not-transient?

Unfortunately not. The Java runtime will try to serialize the UnresolvedPageNumber, and throw a NonSerializableException because Font does not implement the java.io.Serializable interface.

It will take a bit more work to correct this issue, I'm afraid...

Regards

Andreas

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Re: AW: AW: AW: Another alignment thing, maybe related to [Bug 47380]

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On 24 Jun 2009, at 17:23, Georg Datterl wrote:

> Pity. But proves again: For every problem there's a simple, obvious  
> and wrong solution.

:-)

I think the real solution would be to store the referenced FontTriplet  
in the UnresolvedPageNumber, instead of the Font instance.  
FontTriplets are fully serializable (used by the FontCache), so we  
don't need to declare it transient. The only reason we need the font,  
is for UnresolvedPageNumber.resolveIDRef() (line 110), to know how  
much space the resolved page-number will occupy given that font.

[BTW (slightly off-topic for this particular thread): I'm wondering  
whether we do not need /all/ applicable font-families. After all, page-
numbers can be formatted, so the eventual font would have to have all  
the necessary glyphs. Right now, one single Font instance is stored in  
the area, and that one is determined before we can verify whether it  
indeed has all the glyphs... Perhaps a way too exotic use-case?]

I cannot immediately make an estimate as to how many other classes  
would be affected by such a fix. If it's only that one single area  
type, it could also prove to be a simple and obvious solution.

If you want to try this out, and succeed in getting it to work, don't  
forget to send us the patch. ;-)
If not, again, I'll probably have a closer look during the weekend.


HTH!

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AW: AW: AW: AW: Another alignment thing, maybe related to [Bug 47380]

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Hi Andreas,

> [BTW (slightly off-topic for this particular thread): I'm
> wondering whether we do not need /all/ applicable font-
> families. After all, page- numbers can be formatted, so
> the eventual font would have to have all the necessary
> glyphs. Right now, one single Font instance is stored
> in the area, and that one is determined before we can
> verify whether it indeed has all the glyphs... Perhaps
> a way too exotic use-case?]

I don't quite see what could happen. Formattings like bold or italics are known before, the only thing coming later are instances of [0-9]. There's no way, I think, to make the first digit bold and the second one italic and the third one in a different font.

> If you want to try this out, and succeed in getting it
> to work, don't forget to send us the patch. ;-) If not,
> again, I'll probably have a closer look during the weekend.

If I can work on it before the weekend, I'll definitely send you the result.

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Georg Datterl
 
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Gesendet: Mittwoch, 24. Juni 2009 17:47
An: fop-users@...
Betreff: Re: AW: AW: AW: Another alignment thing, maybe related to [Bug 47380]

On 24 Jun 2009, at 17:23, Georg Datterl wrote:

> Pity. But proves again: For every problem there's a simple, obvious
> and wrong solution.

:-)

I think the real solution would be to store the referenced FontTriplet in the UnresolvedPageNumber, instead of the Font instance.  
FontTriplets are fully serializable (used by the FontCache), so we don't need to declare it transient. The only reason we need the font, is for UnresolvedPageNumber.resolveIDRef() (line 110), to know how much space the resolved page-number will occupy given that font.

[BTW (slightly off-topic for this particular thread): I'm wondering whether we do not need /all/ applicable font-families. After all, page- numbers can be formatted, so the eventual font would have to have all the necessary glyphs. Right now, one single Font instance is stored in the area, and that one is determined before we can verify whether it indeed has all the glyphs... Perhaps a way too exotic use-case?]

I cannot immediately make an estimate as to how many other classes would be affected by such a fix. If it's only that one single area type, it could also prove to be a simple and obvious solution.

If you want to try this out, and succeed in getting it to work, don't forget to send us the patch. ;-) If not, again, I'll probably have a closer look during the weekend.


HTH!

Andreas

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Re: AW: AW: AW: AW: Another alignment thing, maybe related to [Bug 47380]

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On 24 Jun 2009, at 18:15, Georg Datterl wrote:

   [Me: ]

>> [BTW (slightly off-topic for this particular thread): I'm
>> wondering whether we do not need /all/ applicable font-
>> families. After all, page- numbers can be formatted, so
>> the eventual font would have to have all the necessary
>> glyphs. Right now, one single Font instance is stored
>> in the area, and that one is determined before we can
>> verify whether it indeed has all the glyphs... Perhaps
>> a way too exotic use-case?]
>
> I don't quite see what could happen. Formattings like bold or  
> italics are known before, the only thing coming later are instances  
> of [0-9]. There's no way, I think, to make the first digit bold and  
> the second one italic and the third one in a different font.

Actually, I was thinking in the direction of languages that don't use  
the same numerals we do... and strictly speaking --although I think  
FOP does not implement it completely-- a user/author can specify  
whatever format they require.

See the conversion properties mentioned in the note:
http://www.w3.org/TR/xsl/#fo_page-number

>> If you want to try this out, and succeed in getting it
>> to work, don't forget to send us the patch. ;-) If not,
>> again, I'll probably have a closer look during the weekend.
>
> If I can work on it before the weekend, I'll definitely send you the  
> result.

Thanks in advance!


Andreas

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R: AW: AW: AW: Another alignment thing, maybe related to [Bug 47380]

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Hi Andreas,

> -----Messaggio originale-----
> Da: Andreas Delmelle [mailto:andreas.delmelle@...]
> Inviato: mercoledì 24 giugno 2009 17.47
> A: fop-users@...
> Oggetto: Re: AW: AW: AW: Another alignment thing, maybe related to [Bug
> 47380]
>
> If you want to try this out, and succeed in getting it to work, don't
> forget to send us the patch. ;-)
> If not, again, I'll probably have a closer look during the weekend.

I feel a bit responsible of this bug :P I hope to have time to help you solving this problem.


Dario



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Re: R: AW: AW: AW: Another alignment thing, maybe related to [Bug 47380]

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On 25 Jun 2009, at 09:45, Laera Dario wrote:

Hi Dario

>> -----Messaggio originale-----
>> Da: Andreas Delmelle [mailto:andreas.delmelle@...]
>>
>> If you want to try this out, and succeed in getting it to work, don't
>> forget to send us the patch. ;-)
>> If not, again, I'll probably have a closer look during the weekend.
>
> I feel a bit responsible of this bug :P I hope to have time to help  
> you solving this problem.

No problem. I'm as responsible as you are. Should have checked this  
more thoroughly before committing...

Good thing that there are so many trunk-users, else this issue would  
have popped up after a release.


Thanks!

Andreas

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