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Another folder selection wish
by Art Alexion-4
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The recent right-click email reminded me to ask this.
When I go to another module, such as the calendar, and return to mail, the current folder -- as opposed to the current message -- is selected. Likewise, when I click a folder to switch to it, that folder, rather than the current message in that folder is selected. Why do I find this bad? Because Evo has no mouse-based way to go to the next UNREAD message, so I use ']' or '.'. But when the folder is selected, this doesn't go to the next unread message, but opens a search box for a folder starting with this character. If I notice that this has happened and try to click on a message, the selection switches to "On this Computer". Is there a way to change this so that keyboard navigation always affects the message list rather than the folder list? Maybe I am unique in wanting this, but I rarely want to search the folder list. Even if I had a lot of folders, evo displays them in alphabetical order, so I wouldn't need to search. -- Art Alexion Resources for Human Development, Inc. 215-951-0300 x3075 4700 Wissahickon Ave. art@... Philadelphia, PA 19144 267-615-3172 _______________________________________________ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list |
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Re: Another folder selection wish
by Patrick O'Callaghan
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On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 09:47 -0400, Art Alexion wrote:
> Is there a way to change this so that keyboard navigation always > affects > the message list rather than the folder list? Maybe I am unique in > wanting this, but I rarely want to search the folder list. Even if I > had a lot of folders, evo displays them in alphabetical order, so I > wouldn't need to search. I completely agree. In fact I'm pretty sure I reported this to BZ many years ago, but I can't lay my hands on the report at the moment. Personally I use "." and "," for Next/Previous Unread. I'm almost sure that no IMAP folder can have a name beginning with a ".", so the fact that Evo opens a search box with a dot in it is doubly frustrating. IMHO the Principle of Least Astonishment dictates that on revisiting a folder Evo should focus on the last message you were looking at, rather than just jumping to the beginning as it often does, or having no message in focus at all. Evo already keeps a lot of state information for folders, so I don't see why this is so hard to do. OT: I also think the forced lexical ordering is a problem in itself. There is a long-standing request to make it more user-configurable, see https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=202257. poc _______________________________________________ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list |
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Re: Another folder selection wish
by Milan Crha
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Hi,
On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 11:59 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I completely agree. In fact I'm pretty sure I reported this to BZ many > years ago, but I can't lay my hands on the report at the moment. Right, https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=268644 > ... > IMHO the Principle of Least Astonishment dictates that on revisiting a > folder Evo should focus on the last message you were looking at, > rather > than just jumping to the beginning as it often does, or having no > message in focus at all. Evo already keeps a lot of state information > for folders, so I don't see why this is so hard to do. > ... What about rather https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=252922 ? Bye, Milan _______________________________________________ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list |
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Re: Another folder selection wish
by Patrick O'Callaghan
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On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 09:45 +0100, Milan Crha wrote:
> Hi, > > On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 11:59 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > I completely agree. In fact I'm pretty sure I reported this to BZ many > > years ago, but I can't lay my hands on the report at the moment. > > Right, https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=268644 I'm sorry to see the fix got lost in 2.28. I hope it's recoverable. > > ... > > IMHO the Principle of Least Astonishment dictates that on revisiting a > > folder Evo should focus on the last message you were looking at, > > rather > > than just jumping to the beginning as it often does, or having no > > message in focus at all. Evo already keeps a lot of state information > > for folders, so I don't see why this is so hard to do. > > ... > > What about rather https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=252922 ? That would be better than nothing, though not ideal (you would lose the position of the last message you were looking at, assuming it's now been marked as Read). However instead of "oldest unread" I would prefer "first unread", as defined by the folder sort order rather than date. The user orders the folder by some preferred criterion and that should be taken into account. Even the concept of "oldest" isn't clear (sent date?, arrival order?). Noite that "first" also depends on the whether the folder is sorted in increasing or decreasing order. See also https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=587610 for a related issue. poc _______________________________________________ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list |
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Re: Another folder selection wish
by Art Alexion-4
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On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 08:38 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > What about rather > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=252922 ? > > That would be better than nothing, though not ideal (you would lose > the > position of the last message you were looking at, assuming it's now > been > marked as Read). > > However instead of "oldest unread" I would prefer "first unread", as > defined by the folder sort order rather than date. The user orders the > folder by some preferred criterion and that should be taken into > account. Even the concept of "oldest" isn't clear (sent date?, arrival > order?). Noite that "first" also depends on the whether the folder is > sorted in increasing or decreasing order. > > See also https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=587610 for a > related > issue. My concern is not so much which message is selected (though I would prefer last selected message*) so much as that a message, not the folder, receive the keyboard focus. *The reason I prefer "last selected" is that I may be checking something in another folder in reference to the selected message. Once I get the info I need from that other folder, I want to go back to the message I was reading. Did I articulate that understandably? -- Art Alexion Resources for Human Development, Inc. 215-951-0300 x3075 4700 Wissahickon Ave. art@... Philadelphia, PA 19144 267-615-3172 _______________________________________________ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list |
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Re: Another folder selection wish
by Philippe LeCavalier
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*The reason I prefer "last selected" is that I may be checking something in another folder in reference to the selected message. Once I get the info I need from that other folder, I want to go back to the message I was reading. Did I articulate that understandably? I do that all the time as well...Would be very useful.
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Re: Another folder selection wish
by Milan Crha
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On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 08:08 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > Right, https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=268644 > > I'm sorry to see the fix got lost in 2.28. I hope it's recoverable. It works for me in 2.28. Doesn't it for you? Milan _______________________________________________ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list |
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Re: Another folder selection wish
by Patrick O'Callaghan
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On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 16:01 +0100, Milan Crha wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 08:08 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > Right, https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=268644 > > > > I'm sorry to see the fix got lost in 2.28. I hope it's recoverable. > > It works for me in 2.28. Doesn't it for you? I haven't got round to compiling it yet. I was simply repeating the last comment on https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=268644, which seems to be from you :-) poc _______________________________________________ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list |
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