Any luck with SnapMirror & ESX LUN's ?

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Any luck with SnapMirror & ESX LUN's ?

by Raj Patel-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Hi,

Anyone used SnapMirror successfully with ESX LUN's ?

I realise it will only be a crash-consistent copy and I have to enable LUN re-signaturing for ESX to pick it up but this seems like a handy way for me to backup a few DMZ VM's on a LUN (on a seperate secured iSCSI vlan) to another LUN on the same SAN.

Cheers,
Raj.

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by Page, Jeremy :: Rate this Message:

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I use SnapVault and it works very well, however I’m using NFS instead of iSCSI/FC LUNs. If you’re running ESX on NetApp I highly recommend trying it, although NFS is not cheap if that’s all you use it for.


From: owner-toasters@... [mailto:owner-toasters@...] On Behalf Of Raj Patel
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 6:13 PM
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Subject: Any luck with SnapMirror & ESX LUN's ?

 

Hi,

Anyone used SnapMirror successfully with ESX LUN's ?

I realise it will only be a crash-consistent copy and I have to enable LUN re-signaturing for ESX to pick it up but this seems like a handy way for me to backup a few DMZ VM's on a LUN (on a seperate secured iSCSI vlan) to another LUN on the same SAN.

Cheers,
Raj.

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RE: Any luck with SnapMirror & ESX LUN's ?

by Learmonth, Peter :: Rate this Message:

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Hi Raj
Yes, there are many people using SnapMirror with ESX datastores, both NFS and VMFS LUNs (both iSCSI and FCP).
 
As far as crash consistency, you can get consistent backup using SnapManager for Virtual Infrastructure in conjunction with VMware Tools VSS provider (ESX 3.5 u2 or later) for those applications that are VSS compatible.  For those that aren't, or have a scriptable hot backup mode, you can call scripts from VMware Tools.  Pre and post scripts are documented in the Virtual Machine Backup Guide (http://www.vmware.com/pdf/vi3_35/esx_3/r35u2/vi3_35_25_u2_vm_backup.pdf).
 
Here are some links for SMVI:
 
Share and enjoy!
 
Peter

From: Raj Patel [mailto:phigmov@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 3:13 PM
To: toasters@...
Subject: Any luck with SnapMirror & ESX LUN's ?

Hi,

Anyone used SnapMirror successfully with ESX LUN's ?

I realise it will only be a crash-consistent copy and I have to enable LUN re-signaturing for ESX to pick it up but this seems like a handy way for me to backup a few DMZ VM's on a LUN (on a seperate secured iSCSI vlan) to another LUN on the same SAN.

Cheers,
Raj.

RE: Any luck with SnapMirror & ESX LUN's ?

by Ken Williams-6 :: Rate this Message:

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VIBE is also an option for those who aren't ready to take the plunge to SMVI.
 
VIBE is available if you have an active NOW account under downloads>tool chest.

From: owner-toasters@... [mailto:owner-toasters@...] On Behalf Of Learmonth, Peter
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 4:42 PM
To: Raj Patel; toasters@...
Subject: RE: Any luck with SnapMirror & ESX LUN's ?

Hi Raj
Yes, there are many people using SnapMirror with ESX datastores, both NFS and VMFS LUNs (both iSCSI and FCP).
 
As far as crash consistency, you can get consistent backup using SnapManager for Virtual Infrastructure in conjunction with VMware Tools VSS provider (ESX 3.5 u2 or later) for those applications that are VSS compatible.  For those that aren't, or have a scriptable hot backup mode, you can call scripts from VMware Tools.  Pre and post scripts are documented in the Virtual Machine Backup Guide (http://www.vmware.com/pdf/vi3_35/esx_3/r35u2/vi3_35_25_u2_vm_backup.pdf).
 
Here are some links for SMVI:
 
Share and enjoy!
 
Peter

From: Raj Patel [mailto:phigmov@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 3:13 PM
To: toasters@...
Subject: Any luck with SnapMirror & ESX LUN's ?

Hi,

Anyone used SnapMirror successfully with ESX LUN's ?

I realise it will only be a crash-consistent copy and I have to enable LUN re-signaturing for ESX to pick it up but this seems like a handy way for me to backup a few DMZ VM's on a LUN (on a seperate secured iSCSI vlan) to another LUN on the same SAN.

Cheers,
Raj.

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by Raj Patel-2 :: Rate this Message:

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I guess one key factor is that VIBE is free(ish) and unsupported(?) from what I've read but SMVI is a supported product at a commercial price-point.

Anyone tried the VMWare Site Recovery Manager tool ? Is there a NetApp integration component in the works (my understanding is the product leverages SAN vendor API's to ensure consistant intersite replication of VM's) ?

On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 10:16 AM, oakley <oakerz@...> wrote:
How difficult is VIBE to implement though? I had a brief conversation with my SE and with a NetApp Virtualization Architect and both highly suggested using Professional Services to do it. Also, and I've barely done any reading on it, does VIBE give you all of the same benefits that SM-VI does? If not, what are the primary differences? What experiences, good/bad, have you had with it?

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 Subject : RE: Any luck with SnapMirror &amp; ESX LUN's ?
Date : Thu, 14 May 2009 10:51:46 -0700
From : Ken Williams <kwillia@...>
To : "Learmonth, Peter" <Peter.Learmonth@...>, "Raj Patel" <phigmov@...>, <toasters@...>

VIBE is also an option for those who aren't ready to take the plunge to SMVI.
VIBE is available if you have an active NOW account under downloads>tool chest.
________________________________




RE: Any luck with SnapMirror & ESX LUN's ?

by Learmonth, Peter :: Rate this Message:

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SRM does not do consistent replication.  In fact, it doesn't manage backup, snapshots or replication at all.  It manages failover. 
 
Yes, there's an SRA (adapter) for SnapMirror for SRM.  The adapter does the tricks of breaking mirrors (or cloning datastores if you want to simply test without breaking the mirror), mapping LUNs to igroups for the DR servers, etc.
 
The adapter is free on the NOW downloads page.  You buy SRM from VMware, of course.
 
Peter

From: Raj Patel [mailto:phigmov@...]
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 3:44 PM
To: oakley
Cc: Ken Williams; Learmonth, Peter; toasters@...
Subject: Re: Any luck with SnapMirror & ESX LUN's ?

I guess one key factor is that VIBE is free(ish) and unsupported(?) from what I've read but SMVI is a supported product at a commercial price-point.

Anyone tried the VMWare Site Recovery Manager tool ? Is there a NetApp integration component in the works (my understanding is the product leverages SAN vendor API's to ensure consistant intersite replication of VM's) ?

On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 10:16 AM, oakley <oakerz@...> wrote:
How difficult is VIBE to implement though? I had a brief conversation with my SE and with a NetApp Virtualization Architect and both highly suggested using Professional Services to do it. Also, and I've barely done any reading on it, does VIBE give you all of the same benefits that SM-VI does? If not, what are the primary differences? What experiences, good/bad, have you had with it?

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 Subject : RE: Any luck with SnapMirror &amp; ESX LUN's ?
Date : Thu, 14 May 2009 10:51:46 -0700
>From : Ken Williams <kwillia@...>
To : "Learmonth, Peter" <Peter.Learmonth@...>, "Raj Patel" <phigmov@...>, <toasters@...>

VIBE is also an option for those who aren't ready to take the plunge to SMVI.
VIBE is available if you have an active NOW account under downloads>tool chest.
________________________________




RE: Any luck with SnapMirror & ESX LUN's ?

by Page, Jeremy :: Rate this Message:

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Yes, they're working with NetApp on it (and over NFS, too!), I am looking forward to seeing how it turns out.

From: owner-toasters@... on behalf of Raj Patel
Sent: Thu 5/14/2009 6:44 PM
To: oakley
Cc: Ken Williams; Learmonth, Peter; toasters@...
Subject: Re: Any luck with SnapMirror & ESX LUN's ?

I guess one key factor is that VIBE is free(ish) and unsupported(?) from what I've read but SMVI is a supported product at a commercial price-point.

Anyone tried the VMWare Site Recovery Manager tool ? Is there a NetApp integration component in the works (my understanding is the product leverages SAN vendor API's to ensure consistant intersite replication of VM's) ?

On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 10:16 AM, oakley <oakerz@...> wrote:
How difficult is VIBE to implement though? I had a brief conversation with my SE and with a NetApp Virtualization Architect and both highly suggested using Professional Services to do it. Also, and I've barely done any reading on it, does VIBE give you all of the same benefits that SM-VI does? If not, what are the primary differences? What experiences, good/bad, have you had with it?

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 Subject : RE: Any luck with SnapMirror &amp; ESX LUN's ?
Date : Thu, 14 May 2009 10:51:46 -0700
From : Ken Williams <kwillia@...>
To : "Learmonth, Peter" <Peter.Learmonth@...>, "Raj Patel" <phigmov@...>, <toasters@...>

VIBE is also an option for those who aren't ready to take the plunge to SMVI.
VIBE is available if you have an active NOW account under downloads>tool chest.
________________________________



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Re: Any luck with SnapMirror & ESX LUN's ?

by Sels Roger :: Rate this Message:

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Also please be advised that to date SRM is not supporting NFS...
Roger


On 15-mei-09, at 02:42, Learmonth, Peter wrote:

SRM does not do consistent replication.  In fact, it doesn't manage backup, snapshots or replication at all.  It manages failover. 
 
Yes, there's an SRA (adapter) for SnapMirror for SRM.  The adapter does the tricks of breaking mirrors (or cloning datastores if you want to simply test without breaking the mirror), mapping LUNs to igroups for the DR servers, etc.
 
The adapter is free on the NOW downloads page.  You buy SRM from VMware, of course.
 
Peter

From: Raj Patel [phigmov@...]
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 3:44 PM
To: oakley
Cc: Ken Williams; Learmonth, Peter; toasters@...
Subject: Re: Any luck with SnapMirror & ESX LUN's ?

I guess one key factor is that VIBE is free(ish) and unsupported(?) from what I've read but SMVI is a supported product at a commercial price-point.

Anyone tried the VMWare Site Recovery Manager tool ? Is there a NetApp integration component in the works (my understanding is the product leverages SAN vendor API's to ensure consistant intersite replication of VM's) ?

On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 10:16 AM, oakley <oakerz@...> wrote:
How difficult is VIBE to implement though? I had a brief conversation with my SE and with a NetApp Virtualization Architect and both highly suggested using Professional Services to do it. Also, and I've barely done any reading on it, does VIBE give you all of the same benefits that SM-VI does? If not, what are the primary differences? What experiences, good/bad, have you had with it?

---------[ Received Mail Content ]----------

 Subject : RE: Any luck with SnapMirror &amp; ESX LUN's ?
Date : Thu, 14 May 2009 10:51:46 -0700
>From : Ken Williams <kwillia@...>
To : "Learmonth, Peter" <Peter.Learmonth@...>, "Raj Patel" <phigmov@...>, <toasters@...>

VIBE is also an option for those who aren't ready to take the plunge to SMVI.
VIBE is available if you have an active NOW account under downloads>tool chest.
________________________________