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Any one else experienced this issue?
by Michael Steinwede-2
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Hi,
Does anyone else have this happen to them. Establish an Alias to your database, then put your database in the trash. Now use you Alias to see if you can open your database. I know, it shouldn't, but mine does! It doesn't happen on may other software program I own, only with 4D. Is this peculiar to my system only? Any feedback would be helpful. Michael ********************************************************************** 4D Basics hosted by 4D, Inc. http://www.4D.com/ Register for 4D Summit 2009 Today Early Bird Pricing Ends August 28th - http://www.4D.com/summit To Unsubscribe: mailto:4DBasics-off@... ********************************************************************** |
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Re: Any one else experienced this issue?
by Luis Pineiros (4D, Inc.)
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Michael,
Since you mention Alias I assume you're referring to Mac OS X. What version of 4D? I tested 4D v11.4 and I get a message from the OS telling me I cannot open the alias because the original item is in the Trash. -- Kind Regards, Luis Pineiros Technical Services Team Member 4D, Inc./www.4d.com ............................................................... Register for 4D Summit 2009 Today Early Bird Pricing Ends August 28th - http://www.4d.com/summit ............................................................... Michael Steinwede wrote: > Hi, > > Does anyone else have this happen to them. > > Establish an Alias to your database, then put your database in the trash. > > Now use you Alias to see if you can open your database. > > I know, it shouldn't, but mine does! > > It doesn't happen on may other software program I own, only with 4D. > > Is this peculiar to my system only? > > Any feedback would be helpful. > > > > Michael > > ********************************************************************** > 4D Basics hosted by 4D, Inc. http://www.4D.com/ > > Register for 4D Summit 2009 Today > Early Bird Pricing Ends August 28th - http://www.4D.com/summit > > To Unsubscribe: mailto:4DBasics-off@... > ********************************************************************** > ********************************************************************** 4D Basics hosted by 4D, Inc. http://www.4D.com/ Register for 4D Summit 2009 Today Early Bird Pricing Ends August 28th - http://www.4D.com/summit To Unsubscribe: mailto:4DBasics-off@... ********************************************************************** |
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Re: Any one else experienced this issue?
by Michael Steinwede-2
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Hi Luis,
On 11/08/2009, at 8:34 AM, Luis Pineiros (4D, Inc.) wrote: > Michael, > > Since you mention Alias I assume you're referring to Mac OS X. > What version of 4D? I'm using 2004.8 Michael > > I tested 4D v11.4 and I get a message from the OS telling me I > cannot open the alias because the original item is in the Trash. > > -- > > > Kind Regards, > > Luis Pineiros > Technical Services Team Member > 4D, Inc./www.4d.com > > ............................................................... > Register for 4D Summit 2009 Today > Early Bird Pricing Ends August 28th - http://www.4d.com/summit > ............................................................... > > > > Michael Steinwede wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Does anyone else have this happen to them. >> >> Establish an Alias to your database, then put your database in the >> trash. >> >> Now use you Alias to see if you can open your database. >> >> I know, it shouldn't, but mine does! >> >> It doesn't happen on may other software program I own, only with 4D. >> >> Is this peculiar to my system only? >> >> Any feedback would be helpful. >> >> >> >> Michael >> >> ********************************************************************** >> 4D Basics hosted by 4D, Inc. http://www.4D.com/ >> >> Register for 4D Summit 2009 Today >> Early Bird Pricing Ends August 28th - http://www.4D.com/summit >> >> To Unsubscribe: mailto:4DBasics-off@info. >> 4D.com >> ********************************************************************** >> > > > ********************************************************************** > 4D Basics hosted by 4D, Inc. http://www.4D.com/ > > Register for 4D Summit 2009 Today > Early Bird Pricing Ends August 28th - http://www.4D.com/summit > > To Unsubscribe: mailto:4DBasics-off@... > ********************************************************************** > > ********************************************************************** 4D Basics hosted by 4D, Inc. http://www.4D.com/ Register for 4D Summit 2009 Today Early Bird Pricing Ends August 28th - http://www.4D.com/summit To Unsubscribe: mailto:4DBasics-off@... ********************************************************************** |
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Re: Any one else experienced this issue?
by Luis Pineiros (4D, Inc.)
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Michael,
In 4D 2004.8 the message I get is from 4D and it reads: File not found The database cannot be used. It's a dialog, when I click OK 4D Quits. Kind Regards, Luis Pineiros Technical Services Team Member 4D, Inc./www.4d.com ............................................................... Register for 4D Summit 2009 Today Early Bird Pricing Ends August 28th - http://www.4d.com/summit ............................................................... Michael Steinwede wrote: > Hi Luis, > > On 11/08/2009, at 8:34 AM, Luis Pineiros (4D, Inc.) wrote: > >> Michael, >> >> Since you mention Alias I assume you're referring to Mac OS X. >> What version of 4D? > > I'm using 2004.8 > > Michael > >> >> I tested 4D v11.4 and I get a message from the OS telling me I cannot >> open the alias because the original item is in the Trash. >> >> -- >> >> >> Kind Regards, >> >> Luis Pineiros >> Technical Services Team Member >> 4D, Inc./www.4d.com >> >> ............................................................... >> Register for 4D Summit 2009 Today >> Early Bird Pricing Ends August 28th - http://www.4d.com/summit >> ............................................................... >> >> >> >> Michael Steinwede wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Does anyone else have this happen to them. >>> >>> Establish an Alias to your database, then put your database in the >>> trash. >>> >>> Now use you Alias to see if you can open your database. >>> >>> I know, it shouldn't, but mine does! >>> >>> It doesn't happen on may other software program I own, only with 4D. >>> >>> Is this peculiar to my system only? >>> >>> Any feedback would be helpful. >>> >>> >>> >>> Michael >>> >>> ********************************************************************** >>> 4D Basics hosted by 4D, Inc. http://www.4D.com/ >>> >>> Register for 4D Summit 2009 Today >>> Early Bird Pricing Ends August 28th - http://www.4D.com/summit >>> >>> To Unsubscribe: mailto:4DBasics-off@... >>> ********************************************************************** ********************************************************************** 4D Basics hosted by 4D, Inc. http://www.4D.com/ Register for 4D Summit 2009 Today Early Bird Pricing Ends August 28th - http://www.4D.com/summit To Unsubscribe: mailto:4DBasics-off@... ********************************************************************** |
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Re: Any one else experienced this issue?
by Michael Steinwede-2
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Hi Luis,
I have a folder which contains this particular database. I have an alias to the .4DB file within that folder. I place the folder with all its contents in the trash. I double click on the alias and the database starts up without a care in the world. I cannot do it with any other software program I own. I can't explain it, I only know that's what's happening. The reason I'm raising this is that I've just lost 2 weeks of work on the database because I deleted the trash thinking I was working on an entirely different version of the database. I had no idea that every time I used the alias, it was retrieving the 'trashed' version. As soon as I trashed the trash, I lost it all. Warm regards, Michael On 12/08/2009, at 2:40 AM, Luis Pineiros (4D, Inc.) wrote: > Michael, > > In 4D 2004.8 the message I get is from 4D and it reads: > > File not found > The database cannot be used. > > It's a dialog, when I click OK 4D Quits. > > > Kind Regards, > > Luis Pineiros > Technical Services Team Member > 4D, Inc./www.4d.com > > ............................................................... > Register for 4D Summit 2009 Today > Early Bird Pricing Ends August 28th - http://www.4d.com/summit > ............................................................... > > > > Michael Steinwede wrote: >> Hi Luis, >> >> On 11/08/2009, at 8:34 AM, Luis Pineiros (4D, Inc.) wrote: >> >>> Michael, >>> >>> Since you mention Alias I assume you're referring to Mac OS X. >>> What version of 4D? >> >> I'm using 2004.8 >> >> Michael >> >>> >>> I tested 4D v11.4 and I get a message from the OS telling me I >>> cannot open the alias because the original item is in the Trash. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> Kind Regards, >>> >>> Luis Pineiros >>> Technical Services Team Member >>> 4D, Inc./www.4d.com >>> >>> ............................................................... >>> Register for 4D Summit 2009 Today >>> Early Bird Pricing Ends August 28th - http://www.4d.com/summit >>> ............................................................... >>> >>> >>> >>> Michael Steinwede wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Does anyone else have this happen to them. >>>> >>>> Establish an Alias to your database, then put your database in >>>> the trash. >>>> >>>> Now use you Alias to see if you can open your database. >>>> >>>> I know, it shouldn't, but mine does! >>>> >>>> It doesn't happen on may other software program I own, only with >>>> 4D. >>>> >>>> Is this peculiar to my system only? >>>> >>>> Any feedback would be helpful. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Michael >>>> >>>> ********************************************************************** >>>> 4D Basics hosted by 4D, Inc. http://www.4D.com/ >>>> >>>> Register for 4D Summit 2009 Today >>>> Early Bird Pricing Ends August 28th - http://www.4D.com/summit >>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe: mailto:4DBasics-off@... >>>> ********************************************************************** > > > > > ********************************************************************** > 4D Basics hosted by 4D, Inc. http://www.4D.com/ > > Register for 4D Summit 2009 Today > Early Bird Pricing Ends August 28th - http://www.4D.com/summit > > To Unsubscribe: mailto:4DBasics-off@... > ********************************************************************** > > ********************************************************************** 4D Basics hosted by 4D, Inc. http://www.4D.com/ Register for 4D Summit 2009 Today Early Bird Pricing Ends August 28th - http://www.4D.com/summit To Unsubscribe: mailto:4DBasics-off@... ********************************************************************** |
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Re: Any one else experienced this issue?
by Joshua Fletcher
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Hi Michael,
You previously asked: > Is this peculiar to my system only? I think Luis is trying to say "yes" since he can't reproduce the problem. Kind regards, Josh Fletcher -- Josh Fletcher Technical Services Team Member 4D, Inc. ********************************************************************** 4D Basics hosted by 4D, Inc. http://www.4D.com/ Register for 4D Summit 2009 Today Early Bird Pricing Ends August 28th - http://www.4D.com/summit To Unsubscribe: mailto:4DBasics-off@... ********************************************************************** |
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Re: Any one else experienced this issue?
by Michael Steinwede-2
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Hi Josh,
Yes, that hadn't escaped me, but I thought if I explained exactly how I did it, it might be different to the way Luis had tried. Sometimes doing something exactly the same way might produce the error. But thanks for replying. Warm regards, Michael On 12/08/2009, at 8:28 AM, Josh Fletcher (4D, Inc.) wrote: > Hi Michael, > > You previously asked: > >> Is this peculiar to my system only? > > I think Luis is trying to say "yes" since he can't reproduce the > problem. > > Kind regards, > > Josh Fletcher > > -- > Josh Fletcher > Technical Services Team Member > 4D, Inc. > > ********************************************************************** > 4D Basics hosted by 4D, Inc. http://www.4D.com/ > > Register for 4D Summit 2009 Today > Early Bird Pricing Ends August 28th - http://www.4D.com/summit > > To Unsubscribe: mailto:4DBasics-off@... > ********************************************************************** > > ********************************************************************** 4D Basics hosted by 4D, Inc. http://www.4D.com/ Register for 4D Summit 2009 Today Early Bird Pricing Ends August 28th - http://www.4D.com/summit To Unsubscribe: mailto:4DBasics-off@... ********************************************************************** |
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Re: Any one else experienced this issue?
by Joshua Fletcher
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Michael Steinwede wrote:
> Yes, that hadn't escaped me, but I thought if I explained exactly how > I did it, it might be different to the way Luis had tried. > > Sometimes doing something exactly the same way might produce the error. Understood. I wasn't trying to discourage you from replying :) I agree the exact steps are the best way to go. -Josh -- Josh Fletcher Technical Services Team Member 4D, Inc. ********************************************************************** 4D Basics hosted by 4D, Inc. http://www.4D.com/ Register for 4D Summit 2009 Today Early Bird Pricing Ends August 28th - http://www.4D.com/summit To Unsubscribe: mailto:4DBasics-off@... ********************************************************************** |
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Re: Any one else experienced this issue?
by Luis Pineiros (4D, Inc.)
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Michael,
As Josh had already mentioned, the steps are the best way to go. I had not placed the entire folder in the trash, just the file with the alias. However, the results for me are the same. In this case, Mac OS X 10.5.7 displays a dialog: The alias "name_of_database.4DB alias" could not be opened because it is in the Trash. To use this item, drag it out of the Trash first. Sometimes aliases may have the same name, but point to different files. To recap, using Mac OS X 10.5.7 and 4D 2004.8, regardless of how I tried to open a database placed in the trash using an alias, I was not able to do so. -- Kind Regards, Luis Pineiros Technical Services Team Member 4D, Inc./www.4d.com ............................................................... Register for 4D Summit 2009 Today Early Bird Pricing Ends August 28th - http://www.4d.com/summit ............................................................... Michael Steinwede wrote: > Hi Luis, > > I have a folder which contains this particular database. > > I have an alias to the .4DB file within that folder. > > I place the folder with all its contents in the trash. > > I double click on the alias and the database starts up without a care > in the world. > > I cannot do it with any other software program I own. > > I can't explain it, I only know that's what's happening. > > The reason I'm raising this is that I've just lost 2 weeks of work on > the database because I deleted the trash thinking I was working on an > entirely different version of the database. > > I had no idea that every time I used the alias, it was retrieving the > 'trashed' version. > > As soon as I trashed the trash, I lost it all. > > Warm regards, > > Michael > ********************************************************************** 4D Basics hosted by 4D, Inc. http://www.4D.com/ Register for 4D Summit 2009 Today Early Bird Pricing Ends August 28th - http://www.4D.com/summit To Unsubscribe: mailto:4DBasics-off@... ********************************************************************** |
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Re: Any one else experienced this issue?
by Michael Steinwede-2
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Hi Luis,
Thanks for 'experimenting' - even if you couldn't produce the error. I'll have to approach Apple and see what's going on in my machine. Warm regards, Michael On 13/08/2009, at 12:21 AM, Luis Pineiros (4D, Inc.) wrote: > To recap, using Mac OS X 10.5.7 and 4D 2004.8, regardless of how I > tried to open a database placed in the trash using an alias, I was > not able to do so. ********************************************************************** 4D Basics hosted by 4D, Inc. http://www.4D.com/ Register for 4D Summit 2009 Today Early Bird Pricing Ends August 28th - http://www.4D.com/summit To Unsubscribe: mailto:4DBasics-off@... ********************************************************************** |
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