Automatic free/busy urls for kronolith in generated "group" adressbooks

[Johannes Boy-2]

Hello all,
to ease the pain of managing various calendars for about a dozen users,
I'd like to make the free/busy information automatically available in
kronolith. My current approach would be to use the group- based adress book.
However, that adressbook does not contain the free & busy urls and is
therefore not useable by kronolith.
I figure, to fix this I'd have to add an entry to the "map" parameter,
like the "localsql" does it, like this:

   $grpSource = array(
       'title' => _("Group"),
       'type' => 'group',
       'params' => array(
          'name' => ''
       ),
       'map' => array(
           '__key' => 'email',
           'name' => 'name',
           'email' => 'email',
           'freebusyUrl' => 'object_freebusyurl'
       ),
   // [...]

This does add the "Free/ Busy URL" entry to the show contact thingy,
however, I have no idea where to fill in the value so it shows
http://<myhost>/horde/kronolith/fb.php?u=<userid>.
Simply adding

   $cfgSources['group_' . $_group_id]['freebusyUrl'] =
'http://localhost/horde/kronolith/fb.php?u=' . Auth::getAuth();

and similair to the loop below does exactly nothing :/
So I guess my question is: Does anyone know where I'd have to add that code?
Or is there a more direct solution for my problem that I have missed?

Johannes
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[Michael J. Rubinsky]

Quoting Johannes Boy <johannesboy@...>:

> Hello all,
> to ease the pain of managing various calendars for about a dozen  
> users, I'd like to make the free/busy information automatically  
> available in kronolith.

Not 100% sure what you mean here... fb information *is* available in  
kronolith.


  My current approach would be to use the
> group- based adress book.


Ah, wait, do you mean you are trying to create some kind of  
"composite" fb info for all the calendars that you manage? That's not  
currently possible via the fb.php file.

> However, that adressbook does not contain the free & busy urls and  
> is therefore not useable by kronolith.
> I figure, to fix this I'd have to add an entry to the "map"  
> parameter, like the "localsql" does it, like this:
>
>   $grpSource = array(
>       'title' => _("Group"),
>       'type' => 'group',
>       'params' => array(
>          'name' => ''
>       ),
>       'map' => array(
>           '__key' => 'email',
>           'name' => 'name',
>           'email' => 'email',
>           'freebusyUrl' => 'object_freebusyurl'
>       ),
>   // [...]
> however, I have no idea where to fill in the value so it shows  
> http://<myhost>/horde/kronolith/fb.php?u=<userid>.
> Simply adding
>
>   $cfgSources['group_' . $_group_id]['freebusyUrl'] =  
> 'http://localhost/horde/kronolith/fb.php?u=' . Auth::getAuth();
>
> and similair to the loop below does exactly nothing :/
> So I guess my question is: Does anyone know where I'd have to add that code?
> Or is there a more direct solution for my problem that I have missed?

Still not really sure what the problem is.... I assume you are aware  
that each contact entry a turba address book can contain a fburl for  
that specific user. Maybe a use case would make your needs more clear.


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[Johannes Boy-2]

Michael J. Rubinsky schrieb:
> Quoting Johannes Boy <johannesboy@...>:
[...]
> Still not really sure what the problem is.... I assume you are aware
> that each contact entry a turba address book can contain a fburl for
> that specific user. Maybe a use case would make your needs more clear.
>
>
Hm alright, let me be a bit more specific.
I have about a dozen or so people working on a project, some in the
office, some at home, some whereever... and more people are inbound or
about to leave, given the temporary nature of their engagement.
Sometimes they have to schedule meetings with 2 or 3 people, sometimes
with a couple of others, sometimes all of them together.
Their current idea of an online calender is one single account
somewhere, everyone has the account data and meetings are color- coded
depending on who has to attend xD

Using kronolith, I hoped to turn that into the following situation:
Everyone has access to kronolith (and other services on that server) and
can schedule meetings with everyone else, with the system giving a
general idea of whether everyone has time or not.
However, not everyone is a PC guru or can walk a couple of doors further
to ask if they have time on any given date or what their free/ busy URL
is. Some arent even exactly sure what an URL is, so I'd like to keep
things as simple as possible:
When entering a meeting, they should be presented with a list of
everyone who might be interessted, so all they have to do is point and
click. The adress books provide just that: Create a new group for a
smaller sub- project, add the users and everyone can see who is working
on it without having to jump through hoops or remember who was working
on the same project anyway.

Sure, keeping a couple of shared adress- books and adding/deleting users
manually as they come and go (or create new adress books for sub-
projects, copy some contacts,change them manually if anything changes,
etc) is a possibility, but the groups and
create-adress-books-from-groups stuff would achieve the same, without
anyone having to go though a whole checklist of things to do when
adding/removin users.
Additionally, the actual admins are not guaranteed to be experts, but
they are bound to change on a regular basis, so I wrote a script that
adds/ removes users to/from all services on that server: VPN, samba
shares, horde etc. In theory, one click should be enough to add/remove
users.

Err...to sum up: I need to create an undefined and changing amount of
lists of users with free/ busy information.
Those lists should be available when scheduling a meeting or w/e.
All users use horde.
The current admin should have to do as little as possible and know as
little as possible about the system when changing users.
So I need to add an automatically generated free/ busy url, providing an
automatically generated timetable, to those automatically generated lists.
All of that is already there (I hope?), except that I need to know the
place inside the turba code to add a line of code.

So... I hope my little novel cleared things up a bit instead of making
matters more obscure xD
If I lost you.. here is an image of what I need, without much context:
http://img407.imageshack.us/i/unbenanntam.png/
That is all I need :/
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[Michael J. Rubinsky]

Quoting Johannes Boy <johannesboy@...>:

> Michael J. Rubinsky schrieb:
>> Quoting Johannes Boy <johannesboy@...>:
> [...]
>> Still not really sure what the problem is.... I assume you are  
>> aware that each contact entry a turba address book can contain a  
>> fburl for that specific user. Maybe a use case would make your  
>> needs more clear.
>>
>>
> Hm alright, let me be a bit more specific.
> I have about a dozen or so people working on a project, some in the  
> office, some at home, some whereever... and more people are inbound  
> or about to leave, given the temporary nature of their engagement.
> Sometimes they have to schedule meetings with 2 or 3 people,  
> sometimes with a couple of others, sometimes all of them together.
> Their current idea of an online calender is one single account  
> somewhere, everyone has the account data and meetings are color-  
> coded depending on who has to attend xD
>
> Using kronolith, I hoped to turn that into the following situation:
> Everyone has access to kronolith (and other services on that server)  
> and can schedule meetings with everyone else, with the system giving  
> a general idea of whether everyone has time or not.
> However, not everyone is a PC guru or can walk a couple of doors  
> further to ask if they have time on any given date or what their  
> free/ busy URL is. Some arent even exactly sure what an URL is, so  
> I'd like to keep things as simple as possible:
> When entering a meeting, they should be presented with a list of  
> everyone who might be interessted, so all they have to do is point  
> and click. The adress books provide just that: Create a new group  
> for a smaller sub- project, add the users and everyone can see who  
> is working on it without having to jump through hoops or remember  
> who was working on the same project anyway.
>
> Sure, keeping a couple of shared adress- books and adding/deleting  
> users manually as they come and go (or create new adress books for  
> sub- projects, copy some contacts,change them manually if anything  
> changes, etc) is a possibility, but the groups and  
> create-adress-books-from-groups stuff would achieve the same,  
> without anyone having to go though a whole checklist of things to do  
> when adding/removin users.
> Additionally, the actual admins are not guaranteed to be experts,  
> but they are bound to change on a regular basis, so I wrote a script  
> that adds/ removes users to/from all services on that server: VPN,  
> samba shares, horde etc. In theory, one click should be enough to  
> add/remove users.
>
> Err...to sum up: I need to create an undefined and changing amount  
> of lists of users with free/ busy information.
> Those lists should be available when scheduling a meeting or w/e.
> All users use horde.
> The current admin should have to do as little as possible and know  
> as little as possible about the system when changing users.
> So I need to add an automatically generated free/ busy url,  
> providing an automatically generated timetable, to those  
> automatically generated lists.
> All of that is already there (I hope?), except that I need to know  
> the place inside the turba code to add a line of code.

Ah. You know, I think I totally missed the fact that you are using the  
turba groups driver and not a contact group inside a address book -  
this clears up your need perfectly.  I'm pretty sure I have a solution  
for you, just going to test it, and will get back to the list.


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[Jan Schneider]

Zitat von "Michael J. Rubinsky" <mrubinsk@...>:

> Quoting Johannes Boy <johannesboy@...>:
>
>> Michael J. Rubinsky schrieb:
>>> Quoting Johannes Boy <johannesboy@...>:
>> [...]
>>> Still not really sure what the problem is.... I assume you are  
>>> aware that each contact entry a turba address book can contain a  
>>> fburl for that specific user. Maybe a use case would make your  
>>> needs more clear.
>>>
>>>
>> Hm alright, let me be a bit more specific.
>> I have about a dozen or so people working on a project, some in the  
>> office, some at home, some whereever... and more people are inbound  
>> or about to leave, given the temporary nature of their engagement.
>> Sometimes they have to schedule meetings with 2 or 3 people,  
>> sometimes with a couple of others, sometimes all of them together.
>> Their current idea of an online calender is one single account  
>> somewhere, everyone has the account data and meetings are color-  
>> coded depending on who has to attend xD
>>
>> Using kronolith, I hoped to turn that into the following situation:
>> Everyone has access to kronolith (and other services on that  
>> server) and can schedule meetings with everyone else, with the  
>> system giving a general idea of whether everyone has time or not.
>> However, not everyone is a PC guru or can walk a couple of doors  
>> further to ask if they have time on any given date or what their  
>> free/ busy URL is. Some arent even exactly sure what an URL is, so  
>> I'd like to keep things as simple as possible:
>> When entering a meeting, they should be presented with a list of  
>> everyone who might be interessted, so all they have to do is point  
>> and click. The adress books provide just that: Create a new group  
>> for a smaller sub- project, add the users and everyone can see who  
>> is working on it without having to jump through hoops or remember  
>> who was working on the same project anyway.
>>
>> Sure, keeping a couple of shared adress- books and adding/deleting  
>> users manually as they come and go (or create new adress books for  
>> sub- projects, copy some contacts,change them manually if anything  
>> changes, etc) is a possibility, but the groups and  
>> create-adress-books-from-groups stuff would achieve the same,  
>> without anyone having to go though a whole checklist of things to  
>> do when adding/removin users.
>> Additionally, the actual admins are not guaranteed to be experts,  
>> but they are bound to change on a regular basis, so I wrote a  
>> script that adds/ removes users to/from all services on that  
>> server: VPN, samba shares, horde etc. In theory, one click should  
>> be enough to add/remove users.
>>
>> Err...to sum up: I need to create an undefined and changing amount  
>> of lists of users with free/ busy information.
>> Those lists should be available when scheduling a meeting or w/e.
>> All users use horde.
>> The current admin should have to do as little as possible and know  
>> as little as possible about the system when changing users.
>> So I need to add an automatically generated free/ busy url,  
>> providing an automatically generated timetable, to those  
>> automatically generated lists.
>> All of that is already there (I hope?), except that I need to know  
>> the place inside the turba code to add a line of code.
>
>
> Ah. You know, I think I totally missed the fact that you are using  
> the turba groups driver and not a contact group inside a address  
> book - this clears up your need perfectly.  I'm pretty sure I have a  
> solution for you, just going to test it, and will get back to the  
> list.

Or actually you *could* use contact groups instead of user groups. You  
don't have the overhead of managing groups in Horde, and users other  
than the administrator can change group members easily through the  
address book interface.
Of course, this only works if your users are in a database (or ldap  
directory).

Jan.

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