BUG-Embedded album art not loading on successive songs

[dmbanshee ()]

Hi all. Newbie with Banshee here. And my question is about Banshee not loading embedded album art.

I am using version 1.4.3 and when I load songs into Banshee they all play fine, but Banshee sometimes will not load the artwork form the new song, it plays it okay just won't load the art. Other times it stays "stuck" on the art form the first song in the list and won't change until about song # 9 and even then only sometimes.

Any help greatly appreciated as I have tried pretty much all of the Linux players and Banshee is the best one for what I need to do.

Thanks

Dennis

[dmbanshee]

*BUMP* Is there NO-ONE who can help with this?

dmbanshee wrote:

Hi all. Newbie with Banshee here. And my question is about Banshee not loading embedded album art.

I am using version 1.4.3 and when I load songs into Banshee they all play fine, but Banshee sometimes will not load the artwork form the new song, it plays it okay just won't load the art. Other times it stays "stuck" on the art form the first song in the list and won't change until about song # 9 and even then only sometimes.

Any help greatly appreciated as I have tried pretty much all of the Linux players and Banshee is the best one for what I need to do.

Thanks

Dennis

[Chris Howie]

On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 3:02 PM, dmbanshee<jodenmi@...> wrote:
> *BUMP* Is there NO-ONE who can help with this?

Please do not bump on mailing lists.  You are far more likely to piss
people off by getting spam in their inbox than you are likely to
persuade them to help you.

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[dmbanshee]

Well with all due respect this is NOT the fastest moving forum I have ever come across with apparently not too many active members. I could see this question getting further and further away from the chance of anyone seeing it. You and I both KNOW people mostly look to the top 3 or 4 new posts on a forum.

How else is a person to keep a question up there so they can get some simple help??

I am trying to get this program to work and this seems such a simple problem. You obviously have the time to tell me not to bump, but no time to offer a solution....

dmbanshee wrote:

Hi all. Newbie with Banshee here. And my question is about Banshee not loading embedded album art.

I am using version 1.4.3 and when I load songs into Banshee they all play fine, but Banshee sometimes will not load the artwork form the new song, it plays it okay just won't load the art. Other times it stays "stuck" on the art form the first song in the list and won't change until about song # 9 and even then only sometimes.

Any help greatly appreciated as I have tried pretty much all of the Linux players and Banshee is the best one for what I need to do.

Thanks

Dennis

[Nikky Southerland]

On Tue, 23 Jun 2009, dmbanshee wrote:
>
> Well with all due respect this is NOT the fastest moving forum I have ever
> come across with apparently not too many active members. I could see this
> question getting further and further away from the chance of anyone seeing
> it. You and I both KNOW people mostly look to the top 3 or 4 new posts on a
> forum.

With all due respect, this is a mailing list, not a forum. There's a
difference.

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2009/6/23 Nikky Southerland <nikky.southerland@...>

On Tue, 23 Jun 2009, dmbanshee wrote:

Well with all due respect this is NOT the fastest moving forum I have ever
come across with apparently not too many active members. I could see this
question getting further and further away from the chance of anyone seeing
it. You and I both KNOW people mostly look to the top 3 or 4 new posts on a
forum.

With all due respect, this is a mailing list, not a forum. There's a difference.

+1

Please file a bug if you think banshee is doing something wrong :
http://banshee-project.org/contribute/file-bugs/

If you file a bug we have a means of tracking your problem and requesting further information as well as giving us a look into the current problematic spaces in Banshee.

- David

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[dmbanshee]

Well then what does all this mean ...."This forum is an archive for the mailing list: [e-mail] (mailing list options). Messages posted here will be sent to this mailing list.

Banshee is an open-source media player for Gnome. This mailing list is devoted to Banshee releases, development, and support

It says FORUM, it says SUPPORT...You guys are so full of your own importance, instead of trying to help someone trying to use this software you just post stupid pedantic messages about its a "mailing list" not a forum.

If this is wo wrong to ask here WHY not just post the CORRECT place to ask these questions? Remember you all were newbies at one stage.

dmbanshee wrote:

Hi all. Newbie with Banshee here. And my question is about Banshee not loading embedded album art.

I am using version 1.4.3 and when I load songs into Banshee they all play fine, but Banshee sometimes will not load the artwork form the new song, it plays it okay just won't load the art. Other times it stays "stuck" on the art form the first song in the list and won't change until about song # 9 and even then only sometimes.

Any help greatly appreciated as I have tried pretty much all of the Linux players and Banshee is the best one for what I need to do.

Thanks

Dennis

[Nikky Southerland]

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On Tue, 23 Jun 2009, dmbanshee wrote:

> Well then what does all this mean ...."This forum is an archive for the
> mailing list: Banshee-list@... (mailing list options). Messages posted
> here will be sent to this mailing list.

The keyword is "archive." It's basically an html version of the mailing
list.

> dmbanshee wrote:

>> I am using version 1.4.3 and when I load songs into Banshee they all play
>> fine, but Banshee sometimes will not load the artwork form the new song,
>> it plays it okay just won't load the art. Other times it stays "stuck" on
>> the art form the first song in the list and won't change until about song
>> # 9 and even then only sometimes.

I believe album art has been improved in banshee 1.5. It's beta-grade
software, but you can test to see if your problems have been resolved by downloading
it at the following link.

http://banshee-project.org/download/archives/1.5.0/

If not, file a bug.

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[dmbanshee]

Thank you Nikky. I will check that out.

dmbanshee wrote:

Hi all. Newbie with Banshee here. And my question is about Banshee not loading embedded album art.

I am using version 1.4.3 and when I load songs into Banshee they all play fine, but Banshee sometimes will not load the artwork form the new song, it plays it okay just won't load the art. Other times it stays "stuck" on the art form the first song in the list and won't change until about song # 9 and even then only sometimes.

Any help greatly appreciated as I have tried pretty much all of the Linux players and Banshee is the best one for what I need to do.

Thanks

Dennis

[Chris Howie]

On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 5:18 PM, dmbanshee<jodenmi@...> wrote:
> Well then what does all this mean ...."This forum is an archive for the
> mailing list: Banshee-list@... (mailing list options). Messages posted
> here will be sent to this mailing list.

It means what it says, that the forum is in fact just an interface to
a mailing list.

> Banshee is an open-source media player for Gnome. This mailing list is
> devoted to Banshee releases, development, and support
>
> It says FORUM, it says SUPPORT...You guys are so full of your own
> importance, instead of trying to help someone trying to use this software
> you just post stupid pedantic messages about its a "mailing list" not a
> forum.

To look at it from a different perspective, many of us are unpaid
volunteers.  We answer questions on the mailing list because we like
helping out.  But this doesn't mean that we won't get upset when
someone disregards netiquette, such as "don't spam mailing lists."

In my particular case, I didn't have an answer to your question, which
is why I did not respond to the first email I got from the list.  I
was not very happy to see it show up again in my inbox.  Why?  Because
I still didn't know the answer to your question.  Your "bump" did not
magically make me slap myself in the face and say "oh, of course, now
I know the answer!"

I would like to point out that my reply to your bump was intended to
be neutral in tone and read simply as "hey, don't do this, it's rude."
 It was not meant to be hostile, and was certainly not intended to
convey a sense of self-importance; rather, it was intended to inform
you that what you did was not appropriate on a mailing list so that
you may avoid making the same mistake in the future.

> If this is wo wrong to ask here WHY not just post the CORRECT place to ask
> these questions? Remember you all were newbies at one stage.

This is the right place to ask questions, but it is not the right
place to "bump" questions.  That was my only objection.

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[dmbanshee]

@Chris..... Fair enough...In the past on other fora I have tried using the "post and wait" philosophy, but after a couple of weeks, no responses. I even had some folks say they only noticed the original post BECAUSE of the bump.

But I do understand this is a mailing list as well, but I didn't know that "bumps" got emailed to members as well as posting on the forum. So my bad there.

I have tried the official repository for 1.5 but I am guessing as it is a beta its not there yet. I always like to load form Synaptic if I can. The issue is still there so I will just have to wait until 1.5 goes official and try again then. Thanks.

dmbanshee wrote:

Hi all. Newbie with Banshee here. And my question is about Banshee not loading embedded album art.

I am using version 1.4.3 and when I load songs into Banshee they all play fine, but Banshee sometimes will not load the artwork form the new song, it plays it okay just won't load the art. Other times it stays "stuck" on the art form the first song in the list and won't change until about song # 9 and even then only sometimes.

Any help greatly appreciated as I have tried pretty much all of the Linux players and Banshee is the best one for what I need to do.

Thanks

Dennis

[gmendoza]

Hey there.  Just as an FYI... I too was having a significant number of
challenges with embedded album art with what I thought was isolated to
recent builds of Banshee.  The symtoms were very similar... audio
plays fine... metadata appears to be read appropriately... but artwork
would not extract.

I found that there were some issues with all my tracks that I had
religiously been converting to v2.4 UTF-8 tags (the default in
EasyTag).  Simply converting back to 2.3 tags woudln't do it either.
I had to strip all the tags, including the artwork... and re-add
everything back as v2.3 tags.

After doing that, all artwork has no trouble being extracted.  Can you
give that a shot on a few of your MP3's and let us know?

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On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:28 PM, dmbanshee<jodenmi@...> wrote:
> I have tried the official repository for 1.5 but I am guessing as it is a
> beta its not there yet. I always like to load form Synaptic if I can. The
> issue is still there so I will just have to wait until 1.5 goes official and
> try again then. Thanks.
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[dmbanshee]

Thanks Gilbert I will try that. Although I used Media Monkey to do mine with. I will have to investigate how I actually can change the tagging to 2.3. But DEFINITELY worth investigating. Thanks for the heads-up :)

gmendoza wrote:

Hey there.  Just as an FYI... I too was having a significant number of
challenges with embedded album art with what I thought was isolated to
recent builds of Banshee.  The symtoms were very similar... audio
plays fine... metadata appears to be read appropriately... but artwork
would not extract.

I found that there were some issues with all my tracks that I had
religiously been converting to v2.4 UTF-8 tags (the default in
EasyTag).  Simply converting back to 2.3 tags woudln't do it either.
I had to strip all the tags, including the artwork... and re-add
everything back as v2.3 tags.

After doing that, all artwork has no trouble being extracted.  Can you
give that a shot on a few of your MP3's and let us know?

--
Gilbert Mendoza
PGP: 0x7403B303
Email: gmendoza at gmail.com
http://gilbertmendoza.com



On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:28 PM, dmbanshee<[e-mail]> wrote:
> I have tried the official repository for 1.5 but I am guessing as it is a
> beta its not there yet. I always like to load form Synaptic if I can. The
> issue is still there so I will just have to wait until 1.5 goes official and
> try again then. Thanks.
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[dmbanshee]

Gilbert, I have just downloaded EasyTag to do this...But as with Media Monkey, I can find no reference to removing a 2.4 tag and re-doing as 2.3? Can you assist with this at all?
Thanks
Dennis

gmendoza wrote:

Hey there.  Just as an FYI... I too was having a significant number of
challenges with embedded album art with what I thought was isolated to
recent builds of Banshee.  The symtoms were very similar... audio
plays fine... metadata appears to be read appropriately... but artwork
would not extract.

I found that there were some issues with all my tracks that I had
religiously been converting to v2.4 UTF-8 tags (the default in
EasyTag).  Simply converting back to 2.3 tags woudln't do it either.
I had to strip all the tags, including the artwork... and re-add
everything back as v2.3 tags.

After doing that, all artwork has no trouble being extracted.  Can you
give that a shot on a few of your MP3's and let us know?

--
Gilbert Mendoza
PGP: 0x7403B303
Email: gmendoza at gmail.com
http://gilbertmendoza.com



On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:28 PM, dmbanshee<[e-mail]> wrote:
> I have tried the official repository for 1.5 but I am guessing as it is a
> beta its not there yet. I always like to load form Synaptic if I can. The
> issue is still there so I will just have to wait until 1.5 goes official and
> try again then. Thanks.
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[gmendoza]

Okay... when you highlight a set of your MP3's in EasyTag... there's a brush icon (or File... Remove Tags).  Doing so will remove the tags.

Another sure way is by using eyeD3.  This is an excellent command line tag editor.  Install from the repos.

Remove tags from MP3's in present working directory:
eyeD3 --remove-all *.mp3

To view tags:
eyeD3 filename.mp3

In EasyTag... also go to Settings... Preferences... ID3 Tag Settings tab.  Select "Write ID3c2 Tags" version 2.3 from drop down menu.  You can also check the "Wite ID3v1 tag" option.

What I did first to save time... load the MP3 directory you're working on with EasyTag (one album for now).  This loads all the existing tag data for those tracks into memory.  Extract and save the existing album art from the track and put the file in the directory of the album you're working on just in case.  Just leave EasyTag open... but from a command line window... used eyeD3 to remove all tags from the tracks.  Run it a couple times just to be sure.  Then from EasyTag... highlight all your tracks you're working on.... go to the File menu... then "Force Saving Files".  This re-writes all the tag data it had stored in memory to the appropriate fields.  Reload the directory with EasyTag after thats done... and your tags should have been written as new.  You may notice that your album art is no longer in the files.  Just add the artwork back into one of the files... selct the image type of Cover Art... and remove any description.  Make sure you're still hilighting all the files... and hit the radio button next to the album art option.  This adds the artwork from the one track you're dealing with to all the tracks hilighted.  Force save again.

Verify again with eyeD3 to to be sure.  try importing that single album into Banshee and see if that works for you.

Sorry so long of a description... but I hope you can follow it.

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On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 4:14 PM, dmbanshee <jodenmi@...> wrote:

Gilbert, I have just downloaded EasyTag to do this...But as with Media
Monkey, I can find no reference to removing a 2.4 tag and re-doing as 2.3?
Can you assist with this at all?
Thanks
Dennis

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[gmendoza]

Sorry I meant select picture type of "Cover (front)".  I was just
typing this from memory.

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On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Gilbert Mendoza<gmendoza@...> wrote:
> files.  Just add the artwork back into one of the files... selct the image
> type of Cover Art... and remove any description.  Make sure you're still
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[dmbanshee]

Thanks Gilbert..I will get into this and let you know (and the forum) how it goes.

Dennis

gmendoza wrote:

Sorry I meant select picture type of "Cover (front)".  I was just
typing this from memory.

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On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Gilbert Mendoza<[e-mail]> wrote:
> files.  Just add the artwork back into one of the files... selct the image
> type of Cover Art... and remove any description.  Make sure you're still
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[bassmannate]

It might be noted that in some versions (at least mine) of Easytag, you
don't have the option to select what version gets written. In my version
of easytag, it only gives me the option of writing ID3v2 or ID3v1.x or
both. The dropdown I have only lets you set the unicode. However, the
tags that have album art in them seem to be working just fine here.

On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 16:43 -0700, Gilbert Mendoza wrote:

> Okay... when you highlight a set of your MP3's in EasyTag... there's a
> brush icon (or File... Remove Tags).  Doing so will remove the tags.
>
> Another sure way is by using eyeD3.  This is an excellent command line
> tag editor.  Install from the repos.
>
> Remove tags from MP3's in present working directory:
> eyeD3 --remove-all *.mp3
>
> To view tags:
> eyeD3 filename.mp3
>
> In EasyTag... also go to Settings... Preferences... ID3 Tag Settings
> tab.  Select "Write ID3c2 Tags" version 2.3 from drop down menu.  You
> can also check the "Wite ID3v1 tag" option.
>
> What I did first to save time... load the MP3 directory you're working
> on with EasyTag (one album for now).  This loads all the existing tag
> data for those tracks into memory.  Extract and save the existing
> album art from the track and put the file in the directory of the
> album you're working on just in case.  Just leave EasyTag open... but
> from a command line window... used eyeD3 to remove all tags from the
> tracks.  Run it a couple times just to be sure.  Then from EasyTag...
> highlight all your tracks you're working on.... go to the File menu...
> then "Force Saving Files".  This re-writes all the tag data it had
> stored in memory to the appropriate fields.  Reload the directory with
> EasyTag after thats done... and your tags should have been written as
> new.  You may notice that your album art is no longer in the files.
> Just add the artwork back into one of the files... selct the image
> type of Cover Art... and remove any description.  Make sure you're
> still hilighting all the files... and hit the radio button next to the
> album art option.  This adds the artwork from the one track you're
> dealing with to all the tracks hilighted.  Force save again.
>
> Verify again with eyeD3 to to be sure.  try importing that single
> album into Banshee and see if that works for you.
>
> Sorry so long of a description... but I hope you can follow it.
>
> --
> Gilbert Mendoza
> PGP: 0x7403B303
> Email: gmendoza at gmail.com
> http://gilbertmendoza.com
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 4:14 PM, dmbanshee <jodenmi@...>
> wrote:
>        
>         Gilbert, I have just downloaded EasyTag to do this...But as
>         with Media
>         Monkey, I can find no reference to removing a 2.4 tag and
>         re-doing as 2.3?
>         Can you assist with this at all?
>         Thanks
>         Dennis
>        
>        
>        
>
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[Chris Howie]

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 2:28 AM, dmbanshee<jodenmi@...> wrote:
> @Chris..... Fair enough...In the past on other fora I have tried using the
> "post and wait" philosophy, but after a couple of weeks, no responses. I
> even had some folks say they only noticed the original post BECAUSE of the
> bump.
>
> But I do understand this is a mailing list as well, but I didn't know that
> "bumps" got emailed to members as well as posting on the forum. So my bad
> there.

No offense taken on this end.  I hope none taken on the other end too.
 I certainly don't want to discourage you from using this list.  :)

> I have tried the official repository for 1.5 but I am guessing as it is a
> beta its not there yet. I always like to load form Synaptic if I can. The
> issue is still there so I will just have to wait until 1.5 goes official and
> try again then. Thanks.

Building 1.5 from the sources should not be too difficult if you are
familiar with the './configure && make' process.  If you're dead set
on the packages then yeah you'll have to wait.

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