Bangalore Brahmo Samaj

[Saurav Brahmogroups]

I just came across this website

gcnhomesDOTcom

Saurav

[jagannath Chatterjee]

This is very strange, the site is an exact copy of the
bangalorebrahmosamaj.org site
Jagannath

>I just came across this website
>
>gcnhomesDOTcom
>
>Saurav

[Saurav Brahmogroups]

The owners of both websites are Bangalore based
and domains are registered with Net4domains-india.

The Bangalore Brahmo Samaj website is registered
to Ashok Gurudas - President of Bangalore Brahmo
Samaj, but GCNHome is the GLOBAL CHRISTIAN
NETWORK - an evangelical TV channel of USA.

Saurav

On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 3:21 PM, jagannath chatterjee <
jagannath.chatterjee@...> wrote:

> This is very strange, the site is an exact copy of the
> bangalorebrahmosamaj.org site
> Jagannath
>
>
> >I just came across this website
> >
> >gcnhomesDOTcom
> >
> >Saurav
>
>

[Holger Lüttich]

Namaste!
 
What is the difference between Brahmo Samaj and Arya Samaj?
Did R. Mohan Roy agree with Sw. Dayanand?
The Arya Samaj has been developing a typical religious practise - - celebration of the sankaars etc. What's the PRACTISE of Brahmos in details?
 
OM OM OM
 
Yours:
 
Holger
 



To: brahmoconferenceorg@...: saurav@...: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:36:11 +0530Subject: [brahmoconferenceorg] Re: Bangalore Brahmo Samaj



The owners of both websites are Bangalore basedand domains are registered with Net4domains-india.The Bangalore Brahmo Samaj website is registeredto Ashok Gurudas - President of Bangalore BrahmoSamaj, but GCNHome is the GLOBAL CHRISTIANNETWORK - an evangelical TV channel of USA.Saurav
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 3:21 PM, jagannath chatterjee <jagannath.chatterjee@...> wrote:
This is very strange, the site is an exact copy of the bangalorebrahmosamaj.org siteJagannath


>I just came across this website>>gcnhomesDOTcom>>Saurav
 





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[sarbajitr]

Arya Samaj propounds the Vedas as "divine authority" and advocates
going "Back to the Vedas"

Brahmo Samaj denies that the Vedas are "divine authority" and
advocates going "Forward from the Vedas"

One Samaj is "backward"/retrograde the other is "forward"/(infinitely)
progressive.

Ram Mohan Roy passed away (1833) when Dayanand (b.1824)was only 9
years old. Dayanand was, however, greatly influenced by successor Adi
Brahmo Samaj leaders such as Debendranath Tagore, Hemendranath Tagore
and Nobin Chunder Roy. During the 1880's the Adi Dharm and Arya Samaj
worked closely together in Punjab and in founding the Indian National
Congress party. Dayanand, however, had  major doctrinal differences
with Keshab's Brahmo Samaj of India and its Vaishno-Christian (Christ
= Krishna) confection.

--- In brahmoconferenceorg@..., Holger Lüttich
<dr.luettich@...> wrote:
>
> Namaste!
>  
> What is the difference between Brahmo Samaj and Arya Samaj?
> Did R. Mohan Roy agree with Sw. Dayanand?
> The Arya Samaj has been developing a typical religious practise - -
celebration of the sankaars etc. What's the PRACTISE of Brahmos in
details?
>  
> OM OM OM
>  
> Yours:
>  
> Holger
>  

[Holger Lüttich]

Thank you Sir
 
for your profound explanation. Is there a branch of the Brahmo Samaj in Germany / Central Europe?
 
Blessings,
 
Holger Lüttich



To: brahmoconferenceorg@...: sroy1947@...: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:19:23 +0000Subject: [brahmoconferenceorg] Re: Arya Samaj and Brahmo Samaj



Arya Samaj propounds the Vedas as "divine authority" and advocatesgoing "Back to the Vedas"Brahmo Samaj denies that the Vedas are "divine authority" andadvocates going "Forward from the Vedas"One Samaj is "backward"/retrograde the other is "forward"/(infinitely)progressive.Ram Mohan Roy passed away (1833) when Dayanand (b.1824)was only 9years old. Dayanand was, however, greatly influenced by successor AdiBrahmo Samaj leaders such as Debendranath Tagore, Hemendranath Tagoreand Nobin Chunder Roy. During the 1880's the Adi Dharm and Arya Samajworked closely together in Punjab and in founding the Indian NationalCongress party. Dayanand, however, had major doctrinal differenceswith Keshab's Brahmo Samaj of India and its Vaishno-Christian (Christ= Krishna) confection.--- In brahmoconferenceorg@..., Holger Lüttich<dr.luettich@...> wrote:>> Namaste!> > What is the difference between Brahmo Samaj and Arya Samaj?> Did R. Mohan Roy agree with Sw. Dayanand?> The Arya Samaj has been developing a typical religious practise - -celebration of the sankaars etc. What's the PRACTISE of Brahmos indetails?> > OM OM OM> > Yours: > > Holger >  





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[jagannath Chatterjee]

This is extremely serious,  even Bangalore Samaj has
fallen into the hands of property dealers and
godless Christians like Global Christian Network.
Actually the Gurudas family are realtors and running
a hospital and medical transcribing unit.

It is learned that the Bangalore Samaj had got itself registered
under the Foreign Exchange Control Act, and heavy
donations were received by it from foreign Christian aid
organisations to convert scheduled castes in Karnataka
to Christianity until the Home Ministry took note
of this in 2004 and issued show cause notices to
account for these funds - which the Committee ignored.
Finally in 2005 the Bangalore Samaj was notified as a
FCRA evader by Home Ministry of Government of India
on 18 November 2005.

The earlier website of GCN was gcnhome.com but after the
Home Ministry lookout advisory it looks like they have
renamed it as gcnhomes.com

On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 10:36 PM, Saurav Brahmo <saurav@...> wrote:

> The owners of both websites are Bangalore based
> and domains are registered with Net4domains-india.
>
> The Bangalore Brahmo Samaj website is registered
> to Ashok Gurudas - President of Bangalore Brahmo
> Samaj, but GCNHome is the GLOBAL CHRISTIAN
> NETWORK - an evangelical TV channel of USA.
>
> Saurav
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 3:21 PM, jagannath chatterjee <
> jagannath.chatterjee@...> wrote:
>
>> This is very strange, the site is an exact copy of the
>> bangalorebrahmosamaj.org site
>> Jagannath
>>
>>
>> >I just came across this website
>> >
>> >gcnhomesDOTcom
>> >
>> >Saurav
>>
>>
>

[bhatta_jayanta]

--- In brahmoconferenceorg@..., Holger Lüttich
<dr.luettich@...> wrote:
>
>
> Thank you Sir
>  
> for your profound explanation. Is there a branch of the Brahmo Samaj
in Germany / Central Europe?
>  
> Blessings,
>  
> Holger Lüttich
>
>
>
> To: brahmoconferenceorg@...: sroy1947@...: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:19:23
+0000Subject: [brahmoconferenceorg] Re: Arya Samaj and Brahmo Samaj
>
>
>
> Arya Samaj propounds the Vedas as "divine authority" and
advocatesgoing "Back to the Vedas"Brahmo Samaj denies that the Vedas
are "divine authority" andadvocates going "Forward from the Vedas"One
Samaj is "backward"/retrograde the other is
"forward"/(infinitely)progressive.Ram Mohan Roy passed away (1833)
when Dayanand (b.1824)was only 9years old. Dayanand was, however,
greatly influenced by successor AdiBrahmo Samaj leaders such as
Debendranath Tagore, Hemendranath Tagoreand Nobin Chunder Roy. During
the 1880's the Adi Dharm and Arya Samajworked closely together in
Punjab and in founding the Indian NationalCongress party. Dayanand,
however, had major doctrinal differenceswith Keshab's Brahmo Samaj of
India and its Vaishno-Christian (Christ= Krishna) confection.--- In
brahmoconferenceorg@..., Holger Lüttich<dr.luettich@>
wrote:>> Namaste!> > What is the difference between Brahmo Samaj and
Arya Samaj?> Did R. Mohan Roy agree with Sw. Dayanand?> The Arya Samaj
has been developing a typical religious practise - -celebration of the
sankaars etc. What's the PRACTISE of Brahmos indetails?> > OM OM OM> >
Yours: > > Holger >  
>
>
>
>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Wer erfand den Glückskeks? Kleiner Tipp: Die Chinesen waren es
nicht! - Mehr auf msn.de
> http://redirect.gimas.net/?n=M0812xMSNDE
>
Unfortunately there is none. It would be a good idea if the Vedantic
Hindu reformation started by Raja Rammohun Roy could be rekindled in
the West as well. But nowadays the mainstream Protestant churches in
the Netherlands at least, follow view in religious matters that are
similar to Rammohun. For spiritual upliftment one could also try to
further modernise the mainstream Protestant churches in Germany
(Evangelische Kirchen) and make them aware of the spiritual treasures
of Rammohun, Debendranath, Keshub and Rabindranath.

[Niju Scribe]

Clarification
 
 
This has reference to a remark made by one of the members of the group saying that Bangalore Samaj has fallen into the hands of property dealers and godless Christians like Global Christian Network.
 
The fact is that Bangalore Brahmo Samaj had got itself registered under the Foreign Exchange Control Act way back in 1983 to receive a small contribution of Rs. 25,000/- (Rupees Twenty Five Thousand Only) from the Social Service Network of International Association for Religious Freedom, an organization which is more than 108 years old, of which Brahmo Samaj is a Founder Member. The said donation was received to establish a Tailoring Unit at Brahmo Samaj Appavu Pillai Girls School, Bangalore.  It is false to say that heavy donations were received from foreign Christian Aid Organizations to convert Schedule Caste in Karnataka to Christianity.  The show cause notice issued by the FERA relates to whether the registration under FERA should continue or not.
 
The Bangalore Brahmo Samaj website is registered in the name of Dr. Ashoka Gurudas, President of Bangalore Brahmo Samaj.  This has the approval of the Executive Committee of the Bangalore Brahmo Samaj.
 
It would be better if members seek clarifications before emphatically passing judgements on any individual or institution by publishing questionable facts.
 
 
Dr. Ashoka Gurudas
President
Bangalore Brahmo Samaj

To: brahmoconferenceorg@...: jagannath.chatterjee@...: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:47:26 +0530Subject: [brahmoconferenceorg] Re: Bangalore Brahmo Samaj



This is extremely serious,  even Bangalore Samaj hasfallen into the hands of property dealers andgodless Christians like Global Christian Network.Actually the Gurudas family are realtors and runninga hospital and medical transcribing unit.It is learned that the Bangalore Samaj had got itself registeredunder the Foreign Exchange Control Act, and heavydonations were received by it from foreign Christian aidorganisations to convert scheduled castes in Karnatakato Christianity until the Home Ministry took noteof this in 2004 and issued show cause notices toaccount for these funds - which the Committee ignored.Finally in 2005 the Bangalore Samaj was notified as aFCRA evader by Home Ministry of Government of Indiaon 18 November 2005.The earlier website of GCN was gcnhome.com but after theHome Ministry lookout advisory it looks like they haverenamed it as gcnhomes.com
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 10:36 PM, Saurav Brahmo <saurav@...> wrote:
The owners of both websites are Bangalore basedand domains are registered with Net4domains-india.The Bangalore Brahmo Samaj website is registeredto Ashok Gurudas - President of Bangalore BrahmoSamaj, but GCNHome is the GLOBAL CHRISTIANNETWORK - an evangelical TV channel of USA.Saurav



On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 3:21 PM, jagannath chatterjee <jagannath.chatterjee@...> wrote:
This is very strange, the site is an exact copy of the bangalorebrahmosamaj.org siteJagannath


>I just came across this website>>gcnhomesDOTcom>>Saurav
 





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[sarbajitr]

Dear Dr Gurudas

I agree that it was quite irresponsible for some people to publish such remarks, which now stand corrected. Could a clarification also be given about the circumstances why website of Global Christian Network contained the contents of Bangalore Brahmo Samaj website.

Sarbajit Roy
New Delhi


--- In brahmoconferenceorg@..., Niju Scribe <nijuscribe@...> wrote:

>
>
> Clarification
>  
>  
> This has reference to a remark made by one of the members of the group saying that Bangalore Samaj has fallen into the hands of property dealers and godless Christians like Global Christian Network.
>  
> The fact is that Bangalore Brahmo Samaj had got itself registered under the Foreign Exchange Control Act way back in 1983 to receive a small contribution of Rs. 25,000/- (Rupees Twenty Five Thousand Only) from the Social Service Network of International Association for Religious Freedom, an organization which is more than 108 years old, of which Brahmo Samaj is a Founder Member. The said donation was received to establish a Tailoring Unit at Brahmo Samaj Appavu Pillai Girls School, Bangalore.  It is false to say that heavy donations were received from foreign Christian Aid Organizations to convert Schedule Caste in Karnataka to Christianity.  The show cause notice issued by the FERA relates to whether the registration under FERA should continue or not.
>  
> The Bangalore Brahmo Samaj website is registered in the name of Dr. Ashoka Gurudas, President of Bangalore Brahmo Samaj.  This has the approval of the Executive Committee of the Bangalore Brahmo Samaj.
>  
> It would be better if members seek clarifications before emphatically passing judgements on any individual or institution by publishing questionable facts.
>  
>  
> Dr. Ashoka Gurudas
> President
> Bangalore Brahmo Samaj
>
> To: brahmoconferenceorg@...: jagannath.chatterjee@...: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:47:26 +0530Subject: [brahmoconferenceorg] Re: Bangalore Brahmo Samaj
>
>
>
> This is extremely serious,  even Bangalore Samaj hasfallen into the hands of property dealers andgodless Christians like Global Christian Network.Actually the Gurudas family are realtors and runninga hospital and medical transcribing unit.It is learned that the Bangalore Samaj had got itself registeredunder the Foreign Exchange Control Act, and heavydonations were received by it from foreign Christian aidorganisations to convert scheduled castes in Karnatakato Christianity until the Home Ministry took noteof this in 2004 and issued show cause notices toaccount for these funds - which the Committee ignored.Finally in 2005 the Bangalore Samaj was notified as aFCRA evader by Home Ministry of Government of Indiaon 18 November 2005.The earlier website of GCN was gcnhome.com but after theHome Ministry lookout advisory it looks like they haverenamed it as gcnhomes.com
> On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 10:36 PM, Saurav Brahmo <saurav@...> wrote:
> The owners of both websites are Bangalore basedand domains are registered with Net4domains-india.The Bangalore Brahmo Samaj website is registeredto Ashok Gurudas - President of Bangalore BrahmoSamaj, but GCNHome is the GLOBAL CHRISTIANNETWORK - an evangelical TV channel of USA.Saurav
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 3:21 PM, jagannath chatterjee <jagannath.chatterjee@...> wrote:
> This is very strange, the site is an exact copy of the bangalorebrahmosamaj.org siteJagannath
>
>
> >I just came across this website>>gcnhomesDOTcom>>Saurav